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Sloober
Apr 1, 2011
Huh, well a friend of mine was talking about some game he played that his wife amazingly enjoyed, and then went on amazon to check it out. There's a review that a lot of people found helpful but there's something a little... off about it.

Here


On another note we started tearing into the Descent Road to Legend app; it is pretty fun. Got to play my copy of Mansions of Madness 2e - so far i like it, but i wish there was a little more handled by the board rather than the app. It is really quick setup though.

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dropkickpikachu
Dec 20, 2003

Ash: You sell rocks?
Flint: Pewter City souveneirs, you want to buy some?

Ah crud they're all out of stock there now too. Oh well. I'm hopeful that there will be maybe one more print run of many of these things before the deadline. I would assume both companies would like to profit as much as possible before the official split.

radlum
May 13, 2013
My FLGS is having a discount this weekend. I'm hoping the other clients aren't aware of the GW thing since I'm planning on buying the few Death Angel expansions they have. Also, they have a copy of Fury of Dracula? is it worth getting? I've seen some comments about being quite long but I don't mind long games.

Ohthehugemanatee
Oct 18, 2005

Sloober posted:

Huh, well a friend of mine was talking about some game he played that his wife amazingly enjoyed, and then went on amazon to check it out. There's a review that a lot of people found helpful but there's something a little... off about it.

Here


On another note we started tearing into the Descent Road to Legend app; it is pretty fun. Got to play my copy of Mansions of Madness 2e - so far i like it, but i wish there was a little more handled by the board rather than the app. It is really quick setup though.

Good god, that reviewer. 3 board games, a shitload of trek memorabilia, two sex dolls and a silicone rear end for when he's in a rush because the dolls take a while to clean up. Now I can't stop imagining someone playing Samurai with his collection of realdolls.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

radlum posted:

My FLGS is having a discount this weekend. I'm hoping the other clients aren't aware of the GW thing since I'm planning on buying the few Death Angel expansions they have. Also, they have a copy of Fury of Dracula? is it worth getting? I've seen some comments about being quite long but I don't mind long games.

Yeah someone tell me should I but up space hulk cg poo poo? I like warham acg a lot.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
Posting so I can find a quote I made about this GW thing, please hold.

E:

Archenteron posted:

I really hope GW disappears up its own rear end and cancels their highly lucrative games licenses with FFG so we can watch Asmodee slowly begin to unhinge its jaw and slither towards Nottingham, England

dropkickpikachu
Dec 20, 2003

Ash: You sell rocks?
Flint: Pewter City souveneirs, you want to buy some?
I watched a gameplay runthrough of Death Angel and it looks like a dope solitaire game, I say buy. Good luck finding the expansions after this though.

Beffer
Sep 25, 2007

Archenteron posted:

Posting so I can find a quote I made about this GW thing, please hold.


I really hope GW disappears up its own rear end and cancels their highly lucrative games licenses with FFG so we can watch Asmodee slowly begin to unhinge its jaw and slither towards Nottingham, England

E:

This would be a good outcome. GW can not make a good game, FFG can (at least reasonably so). But the FFG IP is boring as gently caress: Runebound is completely bland as a setting. WH and 40K may be stupid, bloated, overdone and nonsensical but at least it's not completely vanilla like Runebound.

w00tmonger
Mar 9, 2011

F-F-FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

What's the short list of games on the ffg deal that I should be trying to hunt down?

al-azad
May 28, 2009



w00tmonger posted:

What's the short list of games on the ffg deal that I should be trying to hunt down?



Fury of Dracula (already sold out a lot of places)
Forbidden Stars (itself being a remake of Starcraft, a long out of print and expensive licensed game)
Chaos in the Old World (Blood Rage is its spiritual successor)

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Ohthehugemanatee posted:

Good god, that reviewer. 3 board games, a shitload of trek memorabilia, two sex dolls and a silicone rear end for when he's in a rush because the dolls take a while to clean up. Now I can't stop imagining someone playing Samurai with his collection of realdolls.

All the other stuff makes sense.

Then suddenly there's precious moments garden gnomes in the middle.

Locke Dunnegan
Apr 25, 2005

Respectable Bespectacled Receptacle
Are there any elegant player economy interplay kind of games like Container? I played it once last year at a local open board game group but it's OOP and stupid expensive.

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist
Well, I finally caved and bought two core sets of Warhammer Diskwars.

Archenteron posted:

Posting so I can find a quote I made about this GW thing, please hold.

E:

I really hope GW disappears up its own rear end and cancels their highly lucrative games licenses with FFG so we can watch Asmodee slowly begin to unhinge its jaw and slither towards Nottingham, England
Wasn't licensing revenue the only reason GW was still profitable last year?

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

Wizard Styles posted:

Wasn't licensing revenue the only reason GW was still profitable last year?

If I had to guess, things like Warhammer: Silver Tower and the board/minis crossovers are doing well for them and maybe even encouraging people into hobby minis, bringing in a windfall of revenue.

Or it's GW and every last one of them is mad as a March hare.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Locke Dunnegan posted:

Are there any elegant player economy interplay kind of games like Container? I played it once last year at a local open board game group but it's OOP and stupid expensive.

I made my own copy. It's stupid easy to put together.

Robust Laser
Oct 13, 2012

Dance, Spaceman, Dance!
I've been meaning to get the other Team Manager expansion so I guess NO BETTER TIME THAN THE PRESENT!!

so do i hope my FLGS still has it in stock or do i immediately internet

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

Locke Dunnegan posted:

Are there any elegant player economy interplay kind of games like Container? I played it once last year at a local open board game group but it's OOP and stupid expensive.

I recall reading that a new version is in the works.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




Forbidden Stars is the best new game I've played in 2016. I am thrilled I managed to get someone's in shrink copy for $40 a month ago.

Seriously, it's an amazing game and you all should play it really soon to see if you want to buy it while it's still reasonable.

Radioactive Toy
Sep 14, 2005

Nothing has ever happened here, nothing.
Was planning on hitting the LGS for Eldritch Horror's Under the Pyramids expansion tomorrow but it looks like I might be picking up Forbidden Stars instead even though I will rarely get a chance to play it... How is FS with 2 players?

My group also enjoys BBTM, any opinions on the 2 expansions?

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




Radioactive Toy posted:

Was planning on hitting the LGS for Eldritch Horror's Under the Pyramids expansion tomorrow but it looks like I might be picking up Forbidden Stars instead even though I will rarely get a chance to play it... How is FS with 2 players?

My group also enjoys BBTM, any opinions on the 2 expansions?

I have so far only played it 2 player, BUT the only player scaling changes are 6/9/12 map tiles and 2/3/4 objective tokens per player with 2/3/4 players.

I also think downtime wouldn't be too rough with more players, because each turn is adding or executing one action.

I got nothing on the BBTM expansions, but I preemptively picked them up today just in case. I'm 95% sure that even if I don't like them someone will pay 2-3x for them in a few months.

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

The downtime in Forbidden Stars comes entirely from waiting for other people to finish their battles. Once everybody gets into that flow the game runs pretty briskly.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

ugh I can't buy Forbidden Stars and Conquest and Diskwars and Fury of Dracula all at once gently caress you Games Workshop

I did get to play Diskwars but I'm pretty sure we hosed up a bunch of rules. Pretty fun, combat seems really lethal.

dropkickpikachu
Dec 20, 2003

Ash: You sell rocks?
Flint: Pewter City souveneirs, you want to buy some?
Holy poo poo y'all weren't lying about the component quality of Mansions of Madness 2e. Everything but the miniatures is great, and then jesus christ fitting those bendy plastic minis' lovely pegs into the holes on those bases is an exercise in absolute futility. This is a really disappointing first impression of a game I'm sure is otherwise great. I'm seriously gonna have to bust out the super glue.

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

I find this sky is falling frenzy kind of weird because don't the majority of boardgames go out of print? Unless a game is super popular they only get a couple of print runs. And FFG print a heap of their games so most of these titles will be floating around FLGS shelves for awhile surely. Guess buy the obscure POD stuff while you can.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



dishwasherlove posted:

I find this sky is falling frenzy kind of weird because don't the majority of boardgames go out of print? Unless a game is super popular they only get a couple of print runs. And FFG print a heap of their games so most of these titles will be floating around FLGS shelves for awhile surely. Guess buy the obscure POD stuff while you can.

Board games are oddly susceptible to trends, though, and they have a really long tail of sales. So Game XYZ could be out of print for a decade with a hundred cheap copies that sell maybe 10 a year and otherwise gather dust. Then out of nowhere someone famous mentions the game, a couple of people buy it, then the few sellers who still have copies see the popularity and hike their prices.

FFG complicates things because their games are in pretty high demand. Doom, Gears of War, and Starcraft sell more than they were new because there's just not enough to go around.

With that said, the key is to be patient. I regularly snatch up "rare" games for less-than-original-MSRP on eBay because maybe once every 3-4 months someone will dump their copy there at .99 cents no reserve. The holy grail for me is still Napoleon's Triumph but I feel like at some point in the future that game will get an update or reprint.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Wizard Styles posted:

Well, I finally caved and bought two core sets of Warhammer Diskwars.

Wasn't licensing revenue the only reason GW was still profitable last year?

Which is probably why they're pulling the license. Because now they realize they can auction it off on a game by game basis rather than letting FF do whatever they want. Like how pretty much anyone can make a Warhammer video game because GW will let anyone do one if they're willing to pay GW for the privilege. Which is how you get Warhammer Chess coming out the same year as Total War: Warhammer. One is shovelware by a company no one's ever heard of, the other a continuation of a (more or less) respected wargame series set in the WFB universe. All it takes is enough cash in GW's pockets and they'll let you make a game with Warhammer on it..

I'm guessing we'll see much the same thing done in the board and RPG space. Want to make Warhammer Checkers? Just head over to Nottingham with enough cash in a duffel bag, and you can get it published by next year! :rolleyes:

jng2058 fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Sep 10, 2016

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

homullus posted:

I recall reading that a new version is in the works.

Yes, Container is being reprinted in 2017.

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist

jng2058 posted:

Which is probably why they're pulling the license. Because now they realize they can auction it off on a game by game basis rather than letting FF do whatever they want. Like how pretty much anyone can make a Warhammer video game because GW will let anyone do one if they're willing to pay GW for the privilege. Which is how you get Warhammer Chess coming out the same year as Total War: Warhammer. One is shovelware by a company no one's ever heard of, the other a continuation of a (more or less) respected wargame series set in the WFB universe. All it takes is enough cash in GW's pockets and they'll let you make a game with Warhammer on it..

I'm guessing we'll see much the same thing done in the board and RPG space. Want to make Warhammer Checkers? Just head over to Nottingham with enough cash in a duffel bag, and you can get it published by next year! :rolleyes:
Makes sense, yeah. I'll take any opportunity I can get to get a dig at GW in, but I think this split isn't a bad thing for both FFG and GW. There's a lot more overlap between their games now than there was a few years ago, with FFG taking over a big chunk of the mini gaming market mostly thanks to X-Wing and GW having announced they'll bring back their specialist games line. FFG has access to three bigger money-making GBS threads IPs in Star Wars, Game of Thrones and Middle Earth anyway. I'm sure they aren't happy about losing games that provide steady sales (which would mainly be CitOW and Talisman I guess), but they've got enough nerd bait licenses. And GW can evaluate what they want the specialist games to be and then negotiate new licensing deals with companies that aren't direct competitors based on that.

Of course, there's not been too many news about the new specialist games and I fully expect GW to gently caress it up.

The End
Apr 16, 2007

You're welcome.
Tried Pursuit of Happiness today and absolutely loved it. The funny thing is that it's not a million miles from Trickerion, but the conveyance of theme is just so much better. Terrific game.

the panacea
May 10, 2008

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:
drat GW! Just raced to my local mom and pop shop to buy the last copies of Chaos in the old world, Fury of Dracula and Forgotten Stars.
I really didn't want to buy more games this month.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




al-azad posted:

The holy grail for me is still Napoleon's Triumph but I feel like at some point in the future that game will get an update or reprint.

Every morning I stare at my still sealed copy and whisper, 'stay rare, grail game'

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Malloreon posted:

Every morning I stare at my still sealed copy and whisper, 'stay rare, grail game'

You're a monster and I hope rats chew the plastic off.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

al-azad posted:

You're a monster and I hope rats chew the plastic off.

Or, you know, a reprint happens. Then everyone's happy except him!

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.
I've got $200 credit at my local game store and now I'm wondering if I should use some of it to grab Forbidden Stars.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Zev Shlasinger, the founder of Z-Man Games, is suing Dan Yarrington of Game Salute over a $65000 fraud.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Rad Valtar posted:

I've got $200 credit at my local game store and now I'm wondering if I should use some of it to grab Forbidden Stars.

The worst case scenario is that you would have a rare game to sell or trade.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




GrandpaPants posted:

The worst case scenario is that you would have a rare game to sell or trade.

My thoughts exactly. There is very little chance that any FFG GW game will sell used for below retail in 1+ years

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?


Hell yeah, I hope there's a ton of drama :munch:

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist
The important news to me here is that Z-Man Games was founded by a man named Zev Shlasinger. I can only assume he insists on being called Z-Man.

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Radioactive Toy
Sep 14, 2005

Nothing has ever happened here, nothing.
Well I ended up checking out a few local game stores and all of them told me that their last copy of Forbidden Stars just walked out the door. I assume FFG is going to try and get as many copies out in to the wild ASAP to ride the hype train before the game is gone for good. I knew I should have picked it up months ago when I was thinking.

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