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frost titan did beat the other titans a little bit until people realized that basilisk collar/cunning sparkmage/inferno titan actually beat the other titans as well, and squawks, and the grixis lists went back to not playing it at all again edit: frost titan costing mana to jace bounce was pretty resilient if you ask me
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Elyv posted:You're going to make Siege-Gang Commander cry. Siege Gang Commander is distinctly tribal and was 5 power for 5 mana with no keywords. It's good, but not quite the same as these big haymakers.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:14
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rabidsquid posted:basilisk collar/cunning sparkmage/inferno titan On paper that looks clunky/too expensive
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Sep 10, 2016 01:17
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Rinkles posted:On paper that looks clunky/too expensive Basilisk collar was the stoneforge target of choice before the swords came out
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even after the swords came out i am thinking you are perhaps forgetting how much mana sword of feast and famine generated
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Caw blade put all sorts of wacky poo poo in to fetch up, included noted standard allstar sylvok lifestaff
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Sep 10, 2016 01:22
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Count Bleck posted:This is the most magical card I've seen this week. seen this played in modern at a FNM, once did only 1 damage to the caster but another time he did like 12 to himself and 10 to the opponent and quickly won with burn.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:30
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Rinkles posted:On paper that looks clunky/too expensive The main decks that played Inferno Titan in Standard were Valakut and RUG, both of which had no trouble playing a Titan on turn 4. rabidsquid posted:edit: frost titan costing mana to jace bounce was pretty resilient if you ask me This is fair, but bouncing gravedad generally didn't end up great and bouncing inferno titan wasn't necessarily happy fun times either. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Siege Gang Commander is distinctly tribal and was 5 power for 5 mana with no keywords. Sure but it was pretty haymakery, if they untapped with that thing they just dominated the board(assuming they didn't just kill you because all the goblins had haste and piledriver)
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cheetah7071 posted:Caw blade put all sorts of wacky poo poo in to fetch up, included noted standard allstar sylvok lifestaff It was hilarious when people started doing this with a card you wouldn't play in draft because it was all we had against burn until batterskull showed up
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Sep 10, 2016 01:41
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Rinkles posted:On paper that looks clunky/too expensive it was the best removal in the format against me, a player who was new and didn't have a clue what i was doing
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mandatory lesbian posted:it was the best removal in the format against me, a player who was new and didn't have a clue what i was doing That combo, minus the titan, was the poo poo at the pt it showed up in. Boss naya was huge for a while.
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Had a rough night at modern tonight - playing merfolk as usual. Clowned Jund as usual round 1, but lost narrowly to Valakut Titan round 2. Round 3 was a barn burner against Mardu Tokens (soulfire grandmaster out of the board was a beating against me) and then took a breezy 2 against Abzan thanks to 3x Spreading Seas. Deck is still good, but Valakut is a ROUGH match.
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Sep 10, 2016 03:06
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I want them to reprint Clock of Omens in Aether Revolt.
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Sep 10, 2016 03:26
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Balon posted:Deck is still good, but Valakut is a ROUGH match. Nah man just have your opponent attempt to Valakut bolt your board while you have Kira out. This happened once. He scooped. My expression did not give away how much I was laughing inwardly.
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Sep 10, 2016 03:56
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Count Bleck posted:Nah man just have your opponent attempt to Valakut bolt your board while you have Kira out. My favorite was when my opponent Scapeshifted into exactly enough mountains to kill me, including his only basic mountain. While I had a Ghost Quarter out. It took a while to explain that not only was I not dead, but he couldn't actually win the game.
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Sep 10, 2016 04:07
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Count Bleck posted:Nah man just have your opponent attempt to Valakut bolt your board while you have Kira out. I expressly held up a vial on 3 with a Kira in hand hoping to make this play, but he sent all the triggers at me and bolted to finish me off.
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Sep 10, 2016 04:10
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Balon posted:I expressly held up a vial on 3 with a Kira in hand hoping to make this play That doesn't do what you want it to do.
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Balon posted:I expressly held up a vial on 3 with a Kira in hand hoping to make this play, but he sent all the triggers at me and bolted to finish me off. This would be funny but not for the reason you're intending
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Sep 10, 2016 04:23
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I mean, presumably you vial in Kira in response to the scapeshift, rather than waiting until after they put the triggers on the stack.
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suicidesteve posted:My favorite was when my opponent Scapeshifted into exactly enough mountains to kill me, including his only basic mountain. While I had a Ghost Quarter out. It took a while to explain that not only was I not dead, but he couldn't actually win the game. My favorite failshift is when my opponent had 1 valakut on the board and 1 on the bin and then triumphantly shifted and sacced all 7 of his lands and sat there searching his library for a valakut before realizing he had them both in the bin.
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Sep 10, 2016 05:01
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Rinkles posted:Weird card This gives you a way to kill someone with phage potentially?
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AkumaHokoru posted:This gives you a way to kill someone with phage potentially? Or, your opponent actually reads you card and you lose.
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Sep 10, 2016 06:19
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AkumaHokoru posted:This gives you a way to kill someone with phage potentially? They'll just go "No, you can have both creatures" at which point your plan backfires horribly.
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Sep 10, 2016 06:20
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I see someone else mentioned it a few pages back. nevermind
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Sep 10, 2016 06:27
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Just received 4 fake Blood Moon from a TCGPlayer seller. Super obvious fakes, but glad I have a loupe to verify it quickly. For reference, here's how crisp a set symbol & lines should look:  Highly rated seller too. Hopefully just an honest mistake and an easy fix... I highly recommend a loupe for people, $10 makes it easier to spot these. They're getting better and better. Walked fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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Sep 10, 2016 06:43
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most people who have passable fakes would rather not know they're fake I would imagine.
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Retromancer posted:most people who have passable fakes would rather not know they're fake I would imagine. I'd still check all the stuff you receive while it's still possible for you to send it back for a refund.
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Sep 10, 2016 09:08
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That second image also nicely shows the rosette shaped printing pattern on old cards.
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Sep 10, 2016 11:12
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Walked posted:For reference, here's how crisp a set symbol & lines should look: Were set symbols printed on a separate pass/different equipment, or how did they get that effect?
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Rosettes are on new cards too, pretty sure, but I don't have one front of me to check.
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Rinkles posted:Were set symbols printed on a separate pass/different equipment, or how did they get that effect? All the solid black (set symbols, borders, text...) was printed separately from the coloured artwork and background, yeah. The main idea is to get clean and legible text that you can't really get with the colour process.
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Retromancer posted:most people who have passable fakes would rather not know they're fake I would imagine. Completely disagree. And certainly should be sure to check new stuff you get... Jabor posted:All the solid black (set symbols, borders, text...) was printed separately from the coloured artwork and background, yeah. The thing is, most new counterfeits are even better and the text and mana symbols are printed on a separate black layer too These days it's the texture, sometimes coloring, and the set symbol that give them away. Walked fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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Sep 10, 2016 14:05
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Walked posted:Completely disagree. And certainly should be sure to check new stuff you get... That isn't true. All fakes are done on the same layer up to this point. It's the only test that most the newer fakes can't pass. Coloring issues are only on certain cards. Texture can be fixed with several different methods after you get them. Not many newer fakes have any set symbol issues.
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Actually, all I really want is a good portion of red creature burn to say "target creature or planeswalker" instead.
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Zemyla posted:Actually, all I really want is a good portion of red creature burn to say "target creature or planeswalker" instead. Absolutely this
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Sickening posted:That isn't true. All fakes are done on the same layer up to this point. It's the only test that most the newer fakes can't pass. You are wrong. I bought a number of counterfeits direct from China for a stupid EDH deck and they are VERY GOOD. text and mana are printed on separate layers on the newest ones. I can post pictures to prove it if necessary The text and mana are separate layers, set symbol is not Coloring is not 100% but can be a giveaway and texture can be fixed, I agree. Set symbol is about the only consistent giveaway
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Sickening posted:That isn't true. All fakes are done on the same layer up to this point. It's the only test that most the newer fakes can't pass. I have at this point seen fakes which are double printed, but were given away by set symbol and rosetting problems. That said, I'm pretty sure they're all from the same block of fakes that were made by former Kodak employees that were using photoprinting equipment after work and there's not any new ones of those entering the market. e; They didn't pass light test either so do that Skyl3lazer fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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Okay. Lots of misinformation. The new Chinese fakes are largely double printed. Give me 15 and I'll post a bunch of pictures on the generations of fakes and whatnot. They're remarkably good
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I'd kind of worried my Chinese mail order bride might be a fake. What should I be looking for?
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Ok, Tarmogoyf side by side and what I'm talking about. Side by side (real left, fake right):  the flash really accentuates the difference, but even side-by-side in natural light they dont look unreasonably different Let's look at the set symbols first: REAL:  FAKE:  Okay. How about the mana symbols: REAL::  FAKE:  Finally, text: REAL:  FAKE:  In summary, they are printing everything separate black layer aside from the set symbol. Fun times. edit: Here is older, previous generation fake from before they were printing the set symbols on a different layer: 
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