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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Umm the main headline on CNN specifically says that Hillsry did not apologize for saying "deplorable" and only for saying "half" "That's not the word she regrets" is just a terrible headline in general. If I didn't know anything about the story and just read that headline, I'd be completely confused.
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Trabisnikof posted:Or they can use the tried and true tactic of pretending she said "all supporters" instead of apologizing for saying half. That's not necessarily untrue either though. I mean it's more like 80% if we're being honest.
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Spaced God posted:Wait let me get this straight. People are mad that Hilary called racist Islamophobic homophobic assholes bad people?
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Tomorrow's the day the trump quote about the twin towers only being famous because of 9/11 makes the rounds If there is a just and loving god
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Has anyone of those deplorables commented on the fact that John Hinckley Jr. was released from a mental institution today? I don't really know a lot about him, but shouldn't the right wing really hate him?
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Sep 10, 2016 22:32
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"If we didn't remove [the] incredibly powerful fire retardant asbestos & replace it with junk that doesn't work, the World Trade Center would never have burned down," meanwhile Hillary supports the first responders who were dying from loving asbestos. if that doesn't come up tomorrow, i just don't know.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:37
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Hillary is slightly doing better in the polls. So I just think HRC needs to start taking notes about which newsagencies intentionally stacked the deck for Trumpand have her correspondent in the White House ignore their questions.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:41
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straight up brolic posted:"If we didn't remove [the] incredibly powerful fire retardant asbestos & replace it with junk that doesn't work, the World Trade Center would never have burned down," what about the fact that Trump actually held a grudge against the WTC for being taller than his dumb tower.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:43
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http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37330420quote:Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" comments have drawn immediate comparisons to Mitt Romney's 2012 line about 47% of Americans on government dole supporting Barack Obama and Mr Obama's 2008 characterisation of downtrodden Pennsylvanians as clinging to guns and religion. What is this
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I hope someone, anyone, calls out Trump for his absolute escruciatingly awful lies about "thousands" of Muslims cheering in the streets in New Jersey on 911. Trump has said so many outrageous things by that one really bugs me something fierce.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:48
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 quote:Mr Trump's running mate, Mike Pence, said: "They are not a basket of anything. They are Americans & they deserve your respect." The more they talk about this the more swing voters will genuinely ponder whether any of Pence's assertion is true.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:49
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The major difference between the Obama's "clinging" comment, Romney's 47% thing, and Hillary's bucket-o-assholes statement is that unlike the religious, gun owners, or the poor nobody is going to publicly go to bat for racism. I think Hillary's response neatly plays off of the first attempt by the GOP to attack her over the comment. Like someone said earlier in the thread now the argument being had is about exactly how many of Trump's supporters are racist/bigoted/homophobic/xenophobic/etc and nearly every news source that isn't Fox News is now including the rest of her statement in the follow up when they weren't in the initial coverage.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:50
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I love how every major moment has a terrible Trump tweet to accompany it. This is probably a preview of every candidate for the remainder of our lives, isn't it?
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Your Boy Fancy posted:I love how every major moment has a terrible Trump tweet to accompany it.
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its the BBC being dumb as hell yeah no poo poo shes unlikely to peel off any Trump supporters, but it aint because she called them racist. its because Trump supporters are unreachable.
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Your Boy Fancy posted:I love how every major moment has a terrible Trump tweet to accompany it. Presumably as time goes on, management of your online persona will become a more commonly understood and learned skill, and famous people will be better about deleting dumb poo poo, and hiring managers to do it for them. What we are presently seeing is a bunch of olds who grew up in a time when the most advanced source of news was TV tripe and are having issues adapting to the difficulty of hiding things on the Internet and the lightning speed at which things spread over social media.
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I'm no political strategist, but I think the Trump team are going at this the wrong way. They're happily conflating their entire electorate into a "basket of deplorables", deliberately misconstruing Hillary's statement in an effort to circle their wagons and adopt the "slur" as a badge of honor; but I don't think this is going to work as well as they hope, cause yes, it will increase the enthusiasm of the fascists, racists, homophobes and pepes; but on the other hand, the more "normal" R voters, those that are "holding their nose and voting for Trump", are seeing themselves being equated to the Pepes and the rest of them. It might give a few of them pause; it will probably lower their enthusiasm. Come to think of it, that was the entire point of the remark and the partial retractation today. 4d chess etc. Also: https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/774718444466044928
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paranoid randroid posted:its the BBC being dumb as hell You might even say they're deplorable.
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Your Boy Fancy posted:I love how every major moment has a terrible Trump tweet to accompany it.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:56
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canepazzo posted:I'm no political strategist, but I think the Trump team are going at this the wrong way. They're happily conflating their entire electorate into a "basket of deplorables", deliberately misconstruing Hillary's statement in an effort to circle their wagons and adopt the "slur" as a badge of honor; but I don't think this is going to work as well as they hope, cause yes, it will increase the enthusiasm of the fascists, racists, homophobes and pepes; but on the other hand, the more "normal" R voters, those that are "holding their nose and voting for Trump", are seeing themselves being equated to the Pepes and the rest of them. It might give a few of them pause; it will probably lower their enthusiasm. Is that he second photo he's tweated out of a different rally?
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The Republicans' problem here is that they can't alienate the racists too hard because while I think the actual hard-core for-real racists are maybe a quarter, or a third of their electorate, without them they are toast. The larger cloud of people with shithead opinions who are probably not actually ready to Hail Hydra and join the Trumpstaffel are probably already somewhat uncomfortable with how high the water temperature's gotten.
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Speaking of the media and 9/11, I think it was touched on a bit earlier but can we hit back on about how loving disgusting CNN's 9/11 Children series is? I first heard about it in the thread and just thought people were taking something outta context but no they're straight up milking teens who never meaningfully met their dead parents for views https://twitter.com/CNN/status/774721866292428800 https://twitter.com/CNN/status/774676566588653569 Like, gently caress you for real, CNN
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canepazzo posted:I'm no political strategist, but I think the Trump team are going at this the wrong way. They're happily conflating their entire electorate into a "basket of deplorables", deliberately misconstruing Hillary's statement in an effort to circle their wagons and adopt the "slur" as a badge of honor; but I don't think this is going to work as well as they hope, cause yes, it will increase the enthusiasm of the fascists, racists, homophobes and pepes; but on the other hand, the more "normal" R voters, those that are "holding their nose and voting for Trump", are seeing themselves being equated to the Pepes and the rest of them. It might give a few of them pause; it will probably lower their enthusiasm. It's because Team Trump has zero control over their base or their messaging, and their base is happy to loudly declare their support for Trump and the extermination of non-white races right into video cameras
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Nessus posted:The Republicans' problem here is that they can't alienate the racists too hard because while I think the actual hard-core for-real racists are maybe a quarter, or a third of their electorate, without them they are toast. The larger cloud of people with shithead opinions who are probably not actually ready to Hail Hydra and join the Trumpstaffel are probably already somewhat uncomfortable with how high the water temperature's gotten. Also because those racists are just about the only people who vote in Republican primaries.
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Spaced God posted:Speaking of the media and 9/11, I think it was touched on a bit earlier but can we hit back on about how loving disgusting CNN's 9/11 Children series is? I first heard about it in the thread and just thought people were taking something outta context but no they're straight up milking teens who never meaningfully met their dead parents for views
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straight up brolic posted:I actually think one of the issues is that we no longer have an ability to change our opinions. Some guy in the premier league just got banned for tweeting homophobic stuff in 2009, which is unadvisable and deplorable, but everyone––in addition to the right to have an opinion––has the right for their opinions to be challenged and changed. This is a really good point and it's definitely happening everywhere on all social classes. We aren't allowed to think differently or grow. We must be fully formed at the moment of public consciousness or be deemed a hypocrite. And when the winds shift, god help us. I'm picturing a social movement for the Right To Be Wrong.
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Also, CNN went beyond idiotic and into Fox News territory the second that Trump started quarreling with Megyn Kelly and Fox News. They saw it was a gambit to go harder right in a less GOPe way to wedge off some of FNC's voter base and for awhile they were correct. Their ratings have been slipping tho so it looks like the novelty of a mistress has worn off for the FNC base I mean they're paying Corey half a million a year to weigh in on politics when he's still advising the Trump campaign and is legally barred from disclosing any information about the campaign or even saying anything mean about Trump at all
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Spaced God posted:Speaking of the media and 9/11, I think it was touched on a bit earlier but can we hit back on about how loving disgusting CNN's 9/11 Children series is? I first heard about it in the thread and just thought people were taking something outta context but no they're straight up milking teens who never meaningfully met their dead parents for views What else did you expect them to do? We know where the planes are.
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Epic High Five posted:Also, CNN went beyond idiotic and into Fox News territory the second that Trump started quarreling with Megyn Kelly and Fox News. They saw it was a gambit to go harder right in a less GOPe way to wedge off some of FNC's voter base and for awhile they were correct. Their ratings have been slipping tho so it looks like the novelty of a mistress has worn off for the FNC base
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Your Boy Fancy posted:This is a really good point and it's definitely happening everywhere on all social classes. We aren't allowed to think differently or grow. We must be fully formed at the moment of public consciousness or be deemed a hypocrite. And when the winds shift, god help us. This is the main problem you run into with the fringe left in the US. They demand retroactive ideological purity and will skewer anybody found in violation, even though what they demand purity for changes almost daily. Look at anything from sites like USUncut or whatever about Kaine around the time he announced. They aren't happy with him because, despite having like a perfect liberal pro-life record, he used to be publicly and likely still is privately, pro-life It's the reason Stein is polling at 1/3 of a dead gorilla but Johnson has hit 10-11% at times. Well, one of the reasons.
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Harambe has more logical consistency in his policy positions than Jill Stein
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I know this is getting old, but just look at this crowd. I can only see one person, who might be black. It's one of the secret service guys.
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Nessus posted:Is Ted Turner trying to make CNN the WCW to Fox's WWF? Ted Turner hasnt had control over CNN in a while
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Yinlock posted:what about the fact that Trump actually held a grudge against the WTC for being taller than his dumb tower. He bragged the DAY OF THE ATTACKS that his building was tallest again. "“actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan, and it was actually, before the World Trade Center, was the tallest—and then, when they built the World Trade Center, it became known as the second-tallest. And now it’s the tallest.” Goatman Sacks fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Sep 10, 2016 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Ted Turner hasnt had control over CNN in a while In fact WCW basically died as a result of Ted Turner no longer being in control since he personally loved wrestling and always made sure it has a time slot. The AOL/Time Warner person did not.
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Luigi Thirty posted:In fact WCW basically died as a result of Ted Turner no longer being in control since he personally loved wrestling and always made sure it has a time slot. The AOL/Time Warner person did not. Well that and the avalanche of terrible business decisions.
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Yinlock posted:Well that and the avalanche of terrible business decisions. But Ted Turner is now the second largest private land owner in the US, so that's an ok retirement.
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Yinlock posted:Well that and the avalanche of terrible business decisions. Well, yeah At least WCW didn't have a midget masturbating in a trash can.
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Epic High Five posted:This is the main problem you run into with the fringe left in the US. They demand retroactive ideological purity and will skewer anybody found in violation, even though what they demand purity for changes almost daily. I'm neck deep in the young radical left. It's a cauldron of madness at times. There's a lot of great work being done as well, but the circular firing squad is real, reactionary, and horrifying to behold. Half of them are still trying to talk themselves in believing in Hillary being the lesser of two evils (or, as I refer to it, "better"). Making the idealism something we can channel into real change is a struggle.
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