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Hixson posted:What did the TS dude do for rules? Same as me. Army-wide stubborn.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:It's cool seeing some White Scars in the wild, I feel like they're the least represented legion. At my club we have WS, AL, SW, TS, EC, BA, Mech, and sallys Here's a better battlereport. http://www.powerfist.dk/forum/index.php?topic=95553.msg1296256#msg1296256 DJ Dizzy fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Does anyone have suggestions for a Magos/Archmagos build for a Traitor Death Guard allied Mechanicum detachment? Open to fluffy and gamey ideas alike. I've never really waded into Mechanicum stuff so I'm a bit at a loss with what to kit it out with. After seeing the Secutarii kit, I just know I want some of those mechanical mans next to my muscle mans on the field.
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Hmm, what exactly would you like to add? If you specifically want the secutarii I'd say you should hold off, because they don't actually have rules for 30k yet. And when they do they might end up having additional restrictions because of their nature (they are their own separate order). Otherwise 30k mechanicum offers three distinct things: actual robots, weird artillery, and various flavors of weird troops (cheap horde blobs, fast jet packs, etc.). Do you have a preference?
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One of the deadliest combos I have come up with is a magos prime with ordinator, jet pack and photon thruster, in a unit of 6 thallax with the destructor upgrade and 2 thrusters. Bossman gets 2 Str6 Ap2 shots with tank hunter and armourbane. 
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Mango Polo posted:Hmm, what exactly would you like to add? I guess something with a jet pack, as I had a vision of putting a jet pack on a Sicarian when I bought the kit for them last night. I think I'd lean actual robots or weird troops, as the arty and plodding heavy weapons are pretty well-handled by the DG proper. And yeah, I figure the Secutarii might be restricted in 30k, but I love the standard Skitarii kit and think the Peltast upgrade set is too cool to pass up.
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BULBASAUR posted:Assault Marines are probably the best troops choice you get without a ROW. Tacticals once had a niche as the cheapest troops choice, but now they're barely cheaper than assault marines which can move faster, take melee weapons, and get combat shields with no drawbacks compared to breachers. Breachers are the worst troops choice outside of scout squads- super expensive, super niche (people make the ZM argument all the time, but in reality 90% of games are not ZM so it's a very weak argument), and get no extra attacks in melee. When it comes to ROW troops choices, vets are kings of poo poo mountain. They're stupid good for the cost and FW kinda screwed the pooch by making them better than all the other options. Next up are terminators- cheaper and everything breachers wanted to be. You also get two flavours one that's as fast as infantry and another that's tough and slow. Both have combi weapons and power axes. I have so many WE tacs assembled but not yet painted. I don't like the idea of having to model up assault squads. I'll probably keep doing what I'm doing with the 40 despoilers (20 w/ kharn and 20 as inductii w/ the doc).
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GreenMarine posted:I have so many WE tacs assembled but not yet painted. I don't like the idea of having to model up assault squads. I'll probably keep doing what I'm doing with the 40 despoilers (20 w/ kharn and 20 as inductii w/ the doc). Get a spartan or two and make us all weep.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:18
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Get a spartan or two and make us all weep. I've seriously considered it. Problem is that I want to put way more in my list than I can afford.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:24
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Tacticals are fine. Model your poo poo for fluff. 30k isn't about minmaxing
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Lord Twisted posted:Tacticals are fine. Model your poo poo for fluff. 30k isn't about minmaxing Truth. 30k games look amazing with giant blobs of tacs using fury of the legion.
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Adventures in 30k: Guy who runs our 30k campaign is convincing our salamanders players to not give his praetor EW, because it's "too good". This guy runs eidolon.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:12
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shove eidolon up his rear end imo
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He also doesnt think that -1 to charge range and sweeping rolls is a bad detriment.
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The simplest solution to a salamanders character with EW is shoot the fucker to death before you even worry about not being able to ID him in melee. Why do people have to be so disappointing. Have fun with your mans and stop putting dumb restrictions on things. Hencoe fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Sep 11, 2016 |
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Sep 11, 2016 02:36
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No, you don't understand, he's just trying to forge his narrative. It just so happens that his narrative is the one where he wins all the time.
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Safety Factor posted:No, you don't understand, he's just trying to forge his narrative. It just so happens that his narrative is the one where he wins all the time. "My fluff is that I win"
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Are jump packs good in 30k? I've been thinking about combining the Calth box with the new Death Company box that's coming out for some Blood Angels ever since SRM sang his siren song at Nova.
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Do any of you nerds take fortifications with your 30k armies? I keep passing over them but just realised that an AV 14 bunker that 8 dudes can shoot out of for only 55 points seems like a nice way to keep a HSS and attached character alive.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Are jump packs good in 30k? I've been thinking about combining the Calth box with the new Death Company box that's coming out for some Blood Angels ever since SRM sang his siren song at Nova. They were horribly overpriced before but with the latest red book the consensus seems to be "sure ok." They can be pretty great if you have a legion that likes running up and stabbing things to death. If you're thinking blood angels specifically they get a rite that offers a bunch of turn 1 deep striking for your assault mareens so you'll probably want lots of jump guys anyway.
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I plan to put my havocs in a bunker eventually. Stack that IW character ontop and you can enjoy AV15 and BS6 havocs to boot. 8 tank hunting lascannon shots that re roll hits and subtract from cover saves is pretty solid. What stops me from getting too excited is that it's a bunker. IMO the fortifications kinda feel out of place in most games. Like two armies maneuver to attack each other and your side brought a giant crane and used it to plop down a giant prefab bunker? Ehhh. The BRB rules for bunkers taking hits is also kinda worse than tanks IMO, but I do want to try it out eventually.Lord Twisted posted:Tacticals are fine. Model your poo poo for fluff. 30k isn't about minmaxing Wisdom
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 I don't know why I do this to myself, but they are so drat cool.
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BULBASAUR posted:I plan to put my havocs in a bunker eventually. Stack that IW character ontop and you can enjoy AV15 and BS6 havocs to boot. 8 tank hunting lascannon shots that re roll hits and subtract from cover saves is pretty solid. What stops me from getting too excited is that it's a bunker. IMO the fortifications kinda feel out of place in most games. Like two armies maneuver to attack each other and your side brought a giant crane and used it to plop down a giant prefab bunker? Ehhh. The BRB rules for bunkers taking hits is also kinda worse than tanks IMO, but I do want to try it out eventually. In the BL books they talk about interlocking rhinos and whatnot. You are a cunning artificer, could you create somethin made from rhinos other vehicles to make it a mobile fortress?
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The IW unique rhino you're talking about stands to be either one of the absolute best or worst special units whenever they get around to making it. An improved uparmoured rhino, or one with more fire ports, would be really strong if it was still pretty cheap. If they just give it extra armor for free and +1AV if more than two rhinos are touching for 75 points each... well... then Hencoe will buy 5 of them. At least they'll look rad as hell though. There's also that old open topped Rhino chassis that they're bound to bring back. The rhino advancer I think? I think that one would be really popular too.
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Hencoe posted:
Sick as gently caress.
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I had never heard of this thing before. WOLF PARTY
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GreenMarine posted:I had never heard of this thing before. WOLF PARTY Yeah me neither; I guess I missed the one reference to it in Know No Fear. I got to bust out my bits box and go to town making a cool squad of blinged out Tactical Veterans for my Ultras:       
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SRM posted:Yeah me neither; I guess I missed the one reference to it in Know No Fear. You're an absurd ultramarines painting factory.
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adamantium|wang posted:Do any of you nerds take fortifications with your 30k armies? I keep passing over them but just realised that an AV 14 bunker that 8 dudes can shoot out of for only 55 points seems like a nice way to keep a HSS and attached character alive. I almost always take them. I can set up my own defences and firing lines without having to rely on there being an abundance of decent terrain or the local net-listing douche-hams refusing to play with more then two ruins and a crater on the table. As mentioned previously a bunker with an ammo crate and 8 tank hunting lascannons is brutal, stick your artillery behind it and drink tears. A sky-shield with a death-star filled assault ram deployed on it turn 1 is just fun on the bun.
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Every time I think I'm powering along with my Iron Warriors, SRM posts his Ultras and I realize he's operating on like Flash levels of speed.
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The joys of being unemployed.
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"Funemployed."
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DJ Dizzy posted:The joys of being unemployed. Pfft. Just neglect your wife and children.
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SRM has just figured out how to run his life in parallel instead of serial and it will be a great tragedy when all 8 of him die at 35 
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I'm actually starting to get salty about no models for Tyrants. I held off as long as I could to do my havocs. Now I'm finally getting around to considering terminators and, 3+ years later, FW still hasn't done poo poo. I'll probably end up using grave wardens and deathshroud as a base for some conversions, but I know they'll release them eventually, and it'll just make me more pissed that I spent 100+ hours on models that don't look as cool as whatever FW releases. I'm mad. Mad about resin barbies.
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You're IV Legion. You knew what you were getting into.
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That's understandable - I'm still e-mad that there are no Rhino or Land Raider doors for Sons of Horus.
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Zhent posted:That's understandable - I'm still e-mad that there are no Rhino or Land Raider doors for Sons of Horus. Me too. I went with brass etch on my Phobos but I'll be goddamned if I do that for a Spartan.
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BULBASAUR posted:I'm actually starting to get salty about no models for Tyrants. I held off as long as I could to do my havocs. Now I'm finally getting around to considering terminators and, 3+ years later, FW still hasn't done poo poo. What are you going to use for the missile racks?
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adamantium|wang posted:SRM has just figured out how to run his life in parallel instead of serial and it will be a great tragedy when all 8 of him die at 35 #6 is a dick, 2-5 are alright, I don't really talk to 7 or 8. DJ Dizzy posted:The joys of 
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