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Sep 11, 2016 07:55
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I almost feel like case 4 could have been pretty good if it had more time. Outside of Uendo none of the characters really get a chance to shine or assert themselves. Though i'm glad Athena got a case, even if it wasn't super important they didn't have to use her and I think it shows the writers still think of her as an important character. It still has some pretty good moments though, mostly from Simon. Him going on about how Western food is far inferior to Japanese noodles, and being really insistent about it being called "sake" not "rice wine" you uncultured fools. Him being forced to go on a lunch run for the courtroom was pretty great as well, and he even managed to use the old prosecution standby of manipulating the witness into giving benifical testimony for himself for the side of good this time. It was fun having him around. Blackquill, still the best prosecutor.
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Sep 11, 2016 07:58
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Case 5 Trial 2, and also a reference to AAI2: Ga'ran in fierce competition with Blaise Debeste for Parent of the Year, I see. E: "It seems the Princess is more grown up than you thought" After all, she just made a dramatic announcement in the voice of a 20-30-something woman. 
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Sep 11, 2016 08:16
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Regy Rusty posted:"Filler" cases are good I don't think the distinction between "filler" and "plot important" cases was made until Trials and Tribulations. I mean yeah 1-4 has a HUGE impact on the rest of the series but they had to have some kind of grand finale for the first game. Trials and Tribulations was the first game to have an overarching plot besides "DL-6 happened". (Incidentally T&T owned a whole lot) ROFL Octopus fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Sep 11, 2016 |
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Sep 11, 2016 08:18
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Terper posted:Phoenix is a loser and the game would be better without him taking up screentime Phoenix is cool but I think he's better telling dad jokes from the sidelines cause Apollo is cooler and much more well-developed.
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Sep 11, 2016 08:29
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I just finished Case 4, and I agree that it just felt weirdly out of place and unsatisfying despite having one of the best witnesses in the series. It also reminded me a bit too much of the aggressive handholding of Dual Destinies, right down to the assistant spoiling the final twist/question of the case with an incredibly unsubtle bit of wordplay.
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Sep 11, 2016 08:39
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Actually speaking of case four, I assumed all the spoken-of localisation trouble would be from the rakugo stuff, I bust a gut when I realised they had to make an anagram work too.
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Sep 11, 2016 08:44
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So,I've been contemplating getting this game,but the thread seems divided on it. Like apparently the 4th case sucks? I've just gotten started on Dual Destinies, but I've really been enjoying it so far. Would I enjoy this?
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Sep 11, 2016 09:42
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It's good, get it. The fourth doesn't suck, it's just underwhelming. I'll put the specifics in tags in case you want to go super blind but it's not a plot spoiler or anything. It's one trial day without an investigation, like any case 1.
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Sep 11, 2016 09:48
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VolticSurge posted:So,I've been contemplating getting this game,but the thread seems divided on it. Like apparently the 4th case sucks? I've just gotten started on Dual Destinies, but I've really been enjoying it so far. Would I enjoy this? Yes. It's very good. Case 4 isn't even that bad it's just kind of in a weird place. It probably would've worked better earlier on in the game.
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Sep 11, 2016 10:17
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Case 4 is probably the strangest case in the series. It's just so... there.
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Sep 11, 2016 10:22
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Yes. It's very good. Case 4 isn't even that bad it's just kind of in a weird place. It probably would've worked better earlier on in the game. I think putting it earlier in the game wouldn't have worked. Some of the best moments of the case are the confrontations between Blackquill and Prosecutor Sad Monk, and for them to work well the character of Nayuta has to be estabilished beforehand. Putting it as case 2 would've weakened Nayuta's introduction, and as case 3 it would be massively reviled since it would delay Maya's return.
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Sep 11, 2016 10:28
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lol (case 5) Inga's full name is Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in.
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Sep 11, 2016 12:00
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I finished Case 2 I'm glad the bunny sisters remain not-murderers and essentially crimeless. I liked them both, they were extremely cute.
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Sep 11, 2016 12:15
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Just started case 5. Dhurke is an incredibly cool dad and i like him a lot. I'm glad he and Trucy get along. Also man, Apollo's real father. Revealed just like that. Case 5 don't mess around.
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Sep 11, 2016 12:46
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Case 3 I feel as though murdering all who oppose Maya would be entirely justified. Leave her alone!!!!!!!!
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Sep 11, 2016 13:10
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VolticSurge posted:So,I've been contemplating getting this game,but the thread seems divided on it. How the hell do you read the thread and come to this conclusion The game is fantastic
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Sep 11, 2016 13:14
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Haha, late Case 5 really early in the game with the seemingly plot-important singing and dancing I joked to myself about FE Fates and now we're going after evil royalty practically called Garon
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Sep 11, 2016 13:16
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Finished! As an initial impression, I really enjoyed this one. Possibly my favourite since 3, even including Investigations 2. I was worried in some early parts that the series was drowning a bit in its depth of mythology and recurring characters, but it recovered from that really well and the last case is one of the strongest in a while. Also pleased that they've continued the trend from DD of doing justice (ahem) to Apollo's character... though (major ending spoilers)I'm not sad to see him go; I think the series will benefit from going back to a slightly smaller core cast. Athena in particular really needs more space for development than she's had up to now. Best character rankings: 3rd place: Betty(Case 2) 2nd place: Rayfa 1st place: Sarge(Case 5) Honourable mention: Datz(Case 3)
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Sep 11, 2016 13:18
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NRVNQSR posted:Finished! I wonder if/hope (end spoilers) Athena will get her own plucky teenage boy sidekick in Athena Cykes: Ace Attorney
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Sep 11, 2016 13:26
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Terper posted:lol (case 5) Inga's full name is Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in. This is the ultimate stupid name pun, and the franchise can literally never top it. I vote for the rest of the games to pick their names out of the most common names book.
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Sep 11, 2016 14:19
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Amppelix posted:This is the ultimate stupid name pun, and the franchise can literally never top it. I vote for the rest of the games to pick their names out of the most common names book. What strikes me about all this is the parts of the Kuhra'in names that didn't change from Japanese. My instinct is that some should be transliterated with an "L" and not an "R" (Karukuuru sounds to my ears like Kalkuhl, and Garan like Gallan), but the translation just picks "R" every single time. As for Inga's full name (and a lot of the rest of the Kuhra'inese names, in fact), the Japanese does something subtler. It's much more difficult to pin down the exact mangled Japanese words, and all the names somehow manage to sound ridiculous enough without screaming "this is a pun". For reference, he's Inga Karukuuru Kukuruura Rarupan Gijiiru Hofudaran Madara Vira Yashima Jakutieeru Kurain the 3rd (read those 'r's as 'l's if you feel like it)
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Sep 11, 2016 14:37
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Oh my loving God whole game this game was Apollo Justice 3 and about his loving parents, and the game had a case about Trucy and the Gramaryes with a reference to Lamimoir, and he still hasn't been told about his relation to Trucy! E: NEVER loving MIND HELLO STINGER AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Sep 11, 2016 |
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Sep 11, 2016 14:39
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orenronen posted:What strikes me about all this is the parts of the Kuhra'in names that didn't change from Japanese. My instinct is that some should be transliterated with an "L" and not an "R" (Karukuuru sounds to my ears like Kalkuhl, and Garan like Gallan), but the translation just picks "R" every single time. Since you're a fan of this stuff, look at what they did with the case 4 defendant.
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Sep 11, 2016 14:50
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Terper posted:lol (case 5) Inga's full name is Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in. I don't get it  . All I see are "pompous" and maybe "darn it".E: VVV 
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Sep 11, 2016 14:52
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AlphaKretin posted:I don't get it How could this name be any longer or more pompous than it already is.
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Sep 11, 2016 14:54
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case 3 day 2 investigation: BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Sep 11, 2016 15:13
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case 3 day 2 investigation: you got all the dominant lawyer genes! i was stuck with the recessive prosecutor genes!
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Sep 11, 2016 15:16
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alcharagia posted:case 3 day 2 investigation: you got all the dominant lawyer genes! i was stuck with the recessive prosecutor genes! But Apollo is clearly Raiden?  E: gently caress I just realised something, Case 5 Endgame and 999: 999 is obviously the first thought when propagnosia comes up, but I just realised - Inga shoots Dhurke repeatedly in the chest out of panic, failing to kill him. And if Dhurke's arm isn't injured then, uh, what the hell. Come to think of it, incorrect assumptions are made about whether both characters in question are alive, and the truth is revealed by opening a coffin. This rules. AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Sep 11, 2016 |
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Sep 11, 2016 15:19
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Case 5, Trial Day 2: PROSECUTOR TRANSFORMATION drat Ga'ran is imposing. Her theme songs are really cool and ominous as well I always like it when AA games have a different final boss prosecutor. 
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Sep 11, 2016 15:38
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Case 3 Vintage obtuse Ace Attorney. The warning letter to the high priest is correct, the envelope it came in is not. Surely, considering they're really the same item, they should make either of those things the correct answer.
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Sep 11, 2016 16:07
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It took me a total of 34 hours and 36 minutes to beat SoJ, with an average play time of, uh, 34 hours and 36 minutes.
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Sep 11, 2016 16:12
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Hey, I've got 34 hours and one minute! For a somewhat interesting comparison, my Dual Destinies playtime is 28 and a half hours, and that includes the DLC. They made a really meaty game this time around.
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Sep 11, 2016 16:28
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My DD time is at 50 hours but that's because I replayed it and picked all the wrong choices for the funny dialogue.
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Sep 11, 2016 16:30
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There's a generic leitmotif in this game that's Banjo-Kazooie as gently caress and I love it.
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Sep 11, 2016 16:33
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Terper posted:My DD time is at 50 hours but that's because I replayed it and picked all the wrong choices for the funny dialogue. For example: case 2 in SoJ   
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Sep 11, 2016 16:47
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Waffleman_ posted:There's a generic leitmotif in this game that's Banjo-Kazooie as gently caress and I love it. Is it this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b_7kq9CdPI I love it too, and I also love every character it plays with.
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Sep 11, 2016 16:54
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Case 5, Trial Day 2: Haha who'd have thought that playing 999 would prepare me for a major plot point in an AA game 6 years later. I guessed that Inga had prosopagnosia as soon as I saw his notes, and now here's the insight with a faceless Dhurke.
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Sep 11, 2016 16:56
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Regy Rusty posted:Case 5, Trial Day 2: Haha who'd have thought that playing 999 would prepare me for a major plot point in an AA game 6 years later. I guessed that Inga had prosopagnosia as soon as I saw his notes, and now here's the insight with a faceless Dhurke. The first tell is that he actually doesn't recognize Phoenix in Case 3 until Phoenix announces himself as the lawyer from Case 1.
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Sep 11, 2016 17:09
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ohshiiiiit case 3 trial day 2 the killing actually happened in the hideout gently caress what does that even mean shitttt
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Sep 11, 2016 17:46
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