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oh my god quote:If Trump is unequivocally more flawed than his opponent, that should be plenty evident to the voting public come November. But it should be evident from the kinds of facts that bold and dogged reporting unearths, not from journalists being encouraged to impose their own values to tip the scale. what the gently caress is wrong with you people
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woke wedding drone posted:It might have given her an excuse to skip the memorial and rest, which however much the media obsessed about it probably would have looked better than her stumbling and wobbling in public.
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Necc0 posted:oh my god Listen, if journalists pay attention to the overall tone of the media, well might as well just stop reporting.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:19
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Such short memories. One of the common themes around here in 2008 was McCain's health and how it could affect his presidency. Now that topic is off limits and only for nutjobs?
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Sep 12, 2016 06:25
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Ehhh, I dunno about that. If Clinton had decided to skip the commemoration this morning, even with a valid excuse, the Republicans would have been all over that poo poo--either claiming that she wasn't really sick, or claiming that someone who really cared about the victims of 9/11 would have shown up anyway regardless of illness. Honestly I think this was the best way it could've gone, since now she doesn't have to pretend that everything is fine. Remember too that Hillary was the Senator for New York on 9/11. She made a big part of her career in Congress dealing with the fallout of that, whether it was Iraq or fighting for benefits for first responders. She literally is a part of the history of 9/11 and basically has to go to that commemoration regardless of whatever she'd like to be doing that day. Edit: McCain's health only mattered because he picked a blatant lunatic as his running mate. Hillary picked somebody who could actually handle being President, so her hypothetically dying in office is irrelevant.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:27
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Nate Silver actually tweeted some good points on the Hillary Clinton incident today. Basically he said that while her poll numbers will (or are) drop(ping) from this, Trump would be wise to not react to this, or overreach. If he does, it'll come back to bite him in the rear end (as he's not the pinnacle of great health either). Furthermore, if Hillary were to drop out of the race, that would probably spell massive trouble for Trump, as people would most likely be way less hesitant to vote for Kaine/Sanders/Biden. He also went on to say that while it can turn out badly for Clinton, if Trump decides to open his mouth about it, it'll probably backfire on him.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Such short memories. One of the common themes around here in 2008 was McCain's health and how it could affect his presidency. Now that topic is off limits and only for nutjobs? All the stuff about McCain's health was just because he was old. That line of attack doesn't really work in this election because both candidates are old. However, nobody thought that McCain was secretly hiding massive health problems for nefarious reasons, but the right believes that Hillary is doing that very thing.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:28
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Such short memories. One of the common themes around here in 2008 was McCain's health and how it could affect his presidency. Now that topic is off limits and only for nutjobs? If Trump fainted in the heat we'd all go crazy about it. I don't think it will have much of an effect on the outcome, but I do know that the next two months is going to get even more annoying.
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Pakled posted:All the stuff about McCain's health was just because he was old. That line of attack doesn't really work in this election because both candidates are old. However, nobody thought that McCain was secretly hiding massive health problems for nefarious reasons, but the right believes that Hillary is doing that very thing. He also had significantly more wear on him than Hillary Clinton does, to be fair - time spent at war is a lot different than time spent in an office as far as what it does to you.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Such short memories. One of the common themes around here in 2008 was McCain's health and how it could affect his presidency. Now that topic is off limits and only for nutjobs? John McCain, in 2008, was 4 years older than Hillary is now and chose someone not adequately qualified to be president as his vice president. The issue was never, "McCain is old and sick so therefore he shouldn't be president," it was, "holy poo poo, Sarah Palin is going to be in charge if the 72 year old former PoW dies in office." It would not have been an issue if John McCain hadn't put the idea into everybody's head by picking who he picked for VP.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:30
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i hope hillary dies so kim tane can be president
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:If Trump fainted in the heat we'd all go crazy about it. Maybe that's because Trump is a psycho fascist.
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Lightning Knight posted:Edit: McCain's health only mattered because he picked a blatant lunatic as his running mate. Hillary picked somebody who could actually handle being President, so her hypothetically dying in office is irrelevant.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:33
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trump is the buckley of our day, in that he is literally a fascist
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corn in the bible posted:i hope hillary dies so kim tane can be president Computer, generate "nude tane."
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Sep 12, 2016 06:35
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Old James posted:Bill is going to read her a tale about Princess Buttercup, her beloved Humperdink, and the pirate who tried to ruin their happiness What about the mysterious swashbuckler and his pursuit of the short-fingered man?
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ErIog posted:John McCain, in 2008, was 4 years older than Hillary is now and chose someone not adequately qualified to be president as his vice president. The issue was never, "McCain is old and sick so therefore he shouldn't be president," it was, "holy poo poo, Sarah Palin is going to be in charge if the 72 year old former PoW dies in office."
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NathanScottPhillips posted:POTUS dying in office: "irrelevant." Would Tim Kaine be a better President than Trump?
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NathanScottPhillips posted:So a 68 year old who suffered a traumatic brain injury, has uncontrollable coughing fits, and now apparently is diagnosed with pneumonia doesn't raise any concerns with you? The concerns I have over Hillary's health are about 1/1000th as big as the concerns I have over Trump's mental health, personally.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:41
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NathanScottPhillips posted:So a 68 year old who suffered a traumatic brain injury, has uncontrollable coughing fits, and now apparently is diagnosed with pneumonia doesn't raise any concerns with you? No, mysterious poster who never posted in this thread before and showed up only to post about Hillary Clinton's health, it doesn't.
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Man, I wouldn't trust a 68 yr old or a 70 yr old with important national emergency decisions at 3 am. vvvvv e: hahaha, what the hell are you talking about vvvvv BetterToRuleInHell fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Sep 12, 2016 |
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Sep 12, 2016 06:46
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Man, watching Clinton get swiftboated like this is really impressive. I hate the GOP, but damned if they're not good at politics.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:46
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hey guys, FashGoku1488 here to voice my legitimate concerns regarding Hillary Clinton being a hive of disease
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NathanScottPhillips posted:POTUS dying in office: "irrelevant." Yes, it is. You know who you get if she dies, it's not like if she dies we spin a loving wheel to decide who takes her place. John McCain is still alive 8 years later, after all. Hillary could die tomorrow, or die in 15 years. The point is that she still statistically has at least a presidential term of life in her and a competent replacement if she does die. The notion that "gee, Hillary seems like she might die in office, better pick the cheeto fascist instead  " makes any sense is preposterous.
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Just as a reminder, while Trump will never be elected. If he is and if he died, the world will say hello to President Mike Pence; George W Bush perfected
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Sep 12, 2016 06:47
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Like for real Hillary's health doesn't matter because if you think she's better/Trump is worse, that continues to be true regardless of how long she'll actually hold the office. Same with whether or not Trump is better or worse than Tim Kaine. Anybody "worried about Hillary's health" and using it as an excuse to vote for Trump is just too much of a chickenshit to admit they just want Trump to win. Grow a spine and own your vote, assholes.
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I'd be funny if we got '68 all over again. I thought that shitstorm was going to come from the Republicans this time around.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:51
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Hey guys - you think Putin had anything to do with this? hosed up that russian interference in american politics has gone so far that he could get away with giving presidential candidates pneumonia.
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Sep 12, 2016 06:52
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Putin keeps loving up releasing the new small pox strain somewhere not Siberia.
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Pakled posted:The concerns I have over Hillary's health are about 1/1000th as big as the concerns I have over Trump's mental health, personally. Everyone calls Trump the fascist when we all know for a fact Clinton sabotaged the democratic process using backroom deals in order to cement herself as the nominee. That's fascism by its purest definition. Trump is a monkey wrench I want to throw into those gears rather than let the machine continue on for another 8 depressing years.
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Shbobdb posted:I'd be funny if we got '68 all over again. I thought that shitstorm was going to come from the Republicans this time around. invoking 1968 to describe this election is the quickest way to out yourself as an idiot who wants to sound significant
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Lightning Knight posted:Anybody "worried about Hillary's health" and using it as an excuse to vote for Trump is just too much of a chickenshit to admit they just want Trump to win. Grow a spine and own your vote, assholes. That is kind of the unspoken statement isn't it? Anyhow, it's pneumonia.  will prob be fine after like 3 days.Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:If Trump fainted in the heat we'd all go crazy about it. That's true, but allow me to offer a counterpoint: Donald Trump fainting in the heat because he was too busy screaming about how Mexicans are rapists is funny as gently caress. Hillary doing so while giving a speech on 9/11 is just sad. Like real talk, if McCain fainted like this I'd feel bad for the guy. Not cause SARAH PALIN but just cause he doesn't seem like a bad guy. I'd have a beer with John McCain. Even when he's giving the republican rear end in a top hat policy speech, he was still presidential and affable. Trump is not. To be fair, I wouldn't pity Romney either. Dumb motherfucker is so out of touch he'd probably catch the bubonic plague somehow.
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Lightning Knight posted:Yes, it is. You know who you get if she dies, it's not like if she dies we spin a loving wheel to decide who takes her place. John McCain is still alive 8 years later, after all. Hillary could die tomorrow, or die in 15 years. The point is that she still statistically has at least a presidential term of life in her and a competent replacement if she does die. The notion that "gee, Hillary seems like she might die in office, better pick the cheeto fascist instead Yes and John McCain had no health issues ever in his entire time in government except for not being able to raise his hands above his head because the Vietcong tied him to bamboo. Hillary obviously has health problems, but don't talk about them! Look over here!
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NathanScottPhillips posted:My concerns over Trumps health are 1/1000th the size of my concerns about the direction our country is headed. That is most certainly not fascism by any definition and Clinton won more votes in the primaries than Sanders did. Also gently caress your accelerationism, it's really easy to say "destroy the system no matter what the cost" when that cost is going to be exacted primarily upon people who aren't you (immigrants, nonwhites, women, poors, etc).
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NathanScottPhillips posted:
Actually that power is a god given right guaranteed by the constitution and the only right more important is the right to Free Speech. Yes owning a gun gives a person extreme power, and that shows what an amazing country we live in where the government trusts its people with such individual power, and not only trusts them but protects that right. I believe that if you don't know how to use a gun and have no interest in learning, then you don't even trust yourself with this power and if you want to take it away from others then you are an eternal pessimist.
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SSNeoman posted:Just as a reminder, while Trump will never be elected. If he is and if he died, the world will say hello to President Mike Pence; George W Bush perfected In other words we don't know who would be running a Pence presidency until he nominated a VP? Say what you will about dubya, he never talked casually about nuking people on the campaign trail. Edit: autocorrecting nuking to biking... Hmmmm hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Sep 12, 2016 |
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Everyone calls Trump the fascist when we all know for a fact Clinton sabotaged the democratic process using backroom deals in order to cement herself as the nominee. That's fascism by its purest definition. Holy poo poo are you an 8-bit rereg? Your posting is  as gently caresshobbesmaster posted:In other words we don't know who would be running a Pence presidency until he nominated a VP? I was gonna say that he'd be the perfect puppet for the GOP's dipshit policies, but now that you mention it, yeah! That too. VV Also accurate. Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Sep 12, 2016 |
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The difference between McCain and Clinton is that we were worried what might happen if McCain dies, while they're worried about what will happen if Clinton doesn't.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:My concerns over Trumps health are 1/1000th the size of my concerns about the direction our country is headed. I would love to see these "facts" she got more votes then Bernie deal with it. Where do you think the country is headed and how will Trump make it better.
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Pakled posted:That is most certainly not fascism by any definition and Clinton won more votes in the primaries than Sanders did. Also gently caress your accelerationism, it's really easy to say "destroy the system no matter what the cost" when that cost is going to be exacted primarily upon people who aren't you (immigrants, nonwhites, women, poors, etc). Secondly, that cost will be taken regardless. Unless I've missed something, those groups have always been marginalized and Hillary uses them as pawns whenever convenient and tosses then aside when politically fruitful. Let's be real.
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