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FilthyImp posted:Hey you might be on to something there Potato of Destiny. Are you perhaps familiar with the Speculative Fiction epic entitled "Foundation"? It proposes that calculated events which, at the time are negative, work to ensure humanity's 10,000 year dark ages are confined to a modest 1,200 years. Perhaps we can adapt this model to serve our current partisan political landscape. Hmmm, yes. :Tips Fedora: Alex Jones both supports Trump and occasionally advocates for a hollow moon, possibly inhabited by a robot. It all makes sense.
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So when you said that they rigged the primary you actually meant that they didn't do any of that, and when you said Hillary did it you meant someone who wasn't Hillary did it. Fascinating stuff. You're right about that "everyone's a lawyer thing" for sure. I guess since these democrat employees were shooting the poo poo about their opinions about the election in private and pitched a couple dumb ideas, we might as well give that whole fascism thing a chance. Augus fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Sep 12, 2016 |
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Well, he has destroyed the Republican party. Half-way done! He hasn't.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:It entailed the DNC leadership taking direct, planned, and targeted steps to undermine other nominees and boost Clinton at the same time. This process included a spirit of deceit and hostility towards other nominees, especially Sanders, within the DNC. Who would have thought that career democratic party employees would have an opinion on the democratic primary. There is, however, no evidence they actually worked to tip the scale at all during the primary.
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The possibility of McCain dying in office wasn't a serious concern for his electability until he selected Sarah Palin as his VP
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Bip Roberts posted:Who would have thought that career democratic party employees would have an opinion on the democratic primary. There is, however, no evidence they actually worked to tip the scale at all during the primary. If they didn't rig the primary, then why do I keep insisting they did?
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Fojar38 posted:The possibility of McCain dying in office wasn't a serious concern for his electability until he selected Sarah Palin as his VP
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Sep 12, 2016 07:42
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The DNC also tried to smear Sanders' religious beliefs by spreading rumors that he was atheist. I remember what you said about people not being honest. It may be relevant to your representation of this topic.
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Augus posted:
Heck, I'm in. Not sure I want to wear the current H armbands though. Can we get a graphic designer in here?
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Augus posted:So when you said that they rigged the primary you actually meant that they didn't do any of that, and when you said Hillary did it you meant someone who wasn't Hillary did it.
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Sep 12, 2016 07:44
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NathanScottPhillips posted:And Clinton's health wasn't a concern until she: fell hit her head got a blood clot in the brain, had a number of coughing fits she couldn't get under control during speeches, and finally was slumped up against a concrete pillar and then hauled into a van while she lost consciousnesses. Then she did, so now it is a concern. Thanks for understanding. I thought you believed she was a fascist, wouldn't it be a good thing she has health problems, then? I mean, If Kaine's gonna be in power instead of her, it means there's one less reason to vote for a white supremacist.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I remember what you said about people not being honest. It may be relevant to your representation of this topic.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Well, he has destroyed the Republican party. Half-way done!
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Sep 12, 2016 07:48
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Pakled posted:I thought you believed she was a fascist, wouldn't it be a good thing she has health problems, then?
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The emails were sent to discuss their tactics. Do you not think those same tactics would be put into action? Well they weren't so apparently not.
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Hillary has bought out the entire DNC, which is why she won the nomination in 2008 instead of Obama.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The emails were sent to discuss their tactics. Do you not think those same tactics would be put into action? Surely you must have evidence where they did!
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paranoid randroid posted:funny how these accelerationists have determined that the guy trafficking in unabashed white identity politics is just the man needed to destroy the corrupt status quo Why do accelerationists only demand others pay the piper for what they want? I've never met one who refused to pay their rent, even though by their logic they'd end up in a mansion. What gives??!!!?!
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Like, what do you think Trump is going to do as President, and how will that lead to a better-functioning government and a healthier society? Make the case for Trump, is what I'm saying.
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Lemming posted:Surely you must have evidence where they did! They thought mean thoughts about his bernie! How could anyone be mean in politics!
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Sep 12, 2016 07:50
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NathanScottPhillips posted:So taking an email that was sent under official pretexts and immediately turning it around and forwarding it to the press has now been turned into "shooting the poo poo in private." Doesn't that hurt your brain? What hurts my brain is how this suddenly equals the entire primary being rigged, our democracy being a sham, and we need to immediately embrace white supremacy in order to fix our broken system by destroying it so badly that it unfucks itself. Have you ever considered the fact that the president has the power to kill people? People who have nothing to do with this corrupt system you're so worked up about? How about think up some real solutions, instead of cutting your cock off to spite your face.
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Sep 12, 2016 07:51
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Kilroy posted:What's the other half? Remaking it in Trump's image, then propelling it to full control of all three branches of government? Please explain how this is going to improve things with a little more elaboration than "it is a monkey wrench". You want to put Hillary Clinton in charge, she is the definition of status quo. Let's get 4 or 5 parties or more into the mix and then we can have a government that represents us like the best parts of the rest of the world.
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Sep 12, 2016 07:52
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The two party system is a brilliant political theater to lock our country in place. We have representatives in the Senate and Congress since the 1950s, 95% are lawyers. All they do all day is lawyer-talk each other in public all day, then laugh and joke in private all night. Politically, our country is in the same place is was half a century ago. Arguing about women's equality, the environment, and middle east oil. Cool, invent a time machine and retroactively change our voting system.
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Sep 12, 2016 07:53
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The two party system is a brilliant political theater to lock our country in place. We have representatives in the Senate and Congress since the 1950s, 95% are lawyers. All they do all day is lawyer-talk each other in public all day, then laugh and joke in private all night. Politically, our country is in the same place is was half a century ago. Arguing about women's equality, the environment, and middle east oil. So 1. Elect Trump 2. ??? 3. The terrible FPTP system is fixed
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[extremely straight white male voice]NathanScottPhillips posted:Politically, our country is in the same place is was half a century ago.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The two party system is a brilliant political theater to lock our country in place. We have representatives in the Senate and Congress since the 1950s, 95% are lawyers. All they do all day is lawyer-talk each other in public all day, then laugh and joke in private all night. Politically, our country is in the same place is was half a century ago. Arguing about women's equality, the environment, and middle east oil. Donald Trump is not going to fix the two-party system.
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Sep 12, 2016 07:55
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Hmm I'm given a choice between the status quo and RoHoWa and I really hate the status quo...
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Sep 12, 2016 07:56
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The two party system is a brilliant political theater to lock our country in place. We have representatives in the Senate and Congress since the 1950s, 95% are lawyers. All they do all day is lawyer-talk each other in public all day, then laugh and joke in private all night. Politically, our country is in the same place is was half a century ago. Arguing about women's equality, the environment, and middle east oil. Surely you operate in hacky stand-up comedy terms, but lawyers are generally more trustworthy than real estate dealers.
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Pakled posted:Donald Trump is not going to fix the two-party system.
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The "Trump will cause accelerationism and this is good" is flawed in many many ways. But there is one obvious fact glossed over. Because by that logic, if Hillary is truly a worse candidate than Trump then wouldn't she be the superior accelerationist candidate? Or would that be implying she's a better candidate and will improve things? The status quo isn't great, but Bernie's serious candidacy shows there is actually a strong desire from the electorate for more socialist policies. I'd rather take my chances with this growing electorate in an extremely good liberal court that Hillary would setup rather than an authoritarian pro-corporate Trump court that will be around for another generation. I voted Bernie. Bernie got hosed by the DNC, but it was pointless for them to do so in the long run because he simply just didn't have as many votes. He legitimately lost.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:So taking an email that was sent under official pretexts and immediately turning it around and forwarding it to the press has now been turned into "shooting the poo poo in private." Doesn't that hurt your brain? Did you not look at the URL for that letter before claiming it was private? They posted it on berniesanders.com. It was public.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Trump, Sanders, Stein, or Johnson the result would all be the same. The rest of the government would block them at every chance, like Obama but both parties united against one president. Impeached first term maybe? Personally I think it would end the Republican's endless political superiority. The Republicans are far more of a problem when it comes to gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc so on the local level a Trump victory would mean huge upsets in state and local governments. If Clinton is defeated that is basically decapitating the Democratic leadership, who wants to listen to a loser especially one to un-lovable as Clinton? That would mean we might actually get real representation at the local level, might get these things which people are talking about more and more on the internet like 3rd party or getting money out of political races. Hmm yeah, I really see the Republican house and Republican senate (which it will be if Trump wins) blocking Trump.
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*takes enormous whiff of paint thinner* okay so first Lyndon Larouche gets elected and then
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NathanScottPhillips posted:The two party system is a brilliant political theater to lock our country in place. We have representatives in the Senate and Congress since the 1950s, 95% are lawyers. All they do all day is lawyer-talk each other in public all day, then laugh and joke in private all night. Oh no, it's retarded  Here's a hint: this is the falsehood the Republicans want you to believe so you don't show up to vote. Looks like it's working!
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Trump, Sanders, Stein, or Johnson the result would all be the same. The rest of the government would block them at every chance, like Obama but both parties united against one president. Impeached first term maybe? Personally I think it would end the Republican's endless political superiority. The Republicans are far more of a problem when it comes to gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc so on the local level a Trump victory would mean huge upsets in state and local governments. If Clinton is defeated that is basically decapitating the Democratic leadership, who wants to listen to a loser especially one to un-lovable as Clinton? That would mean we might actually get real representation at the local level, might get these things which people are talking about more and more on the internet like 3rd party or getting money out of political races. Obviously this dumbass fantasy of yours will definitely happen and is totally worth the possibility that a ton of brown people are murdered God you are just literally the worst.
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Bip Roberts posted:Hmm yeah, I really see the Republican house and Republican senate (which it will be if Trump wins) blocking Trump.
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What's more likely is that they'll go along with Trump on his few pet issues (the wall, banning muslims) and he'll cede governance of everything else to Pence and/or the Heritage institute (who he already used to chose supreme court nominees for him).
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Trump, Sanders, Stein, or Johnson the result would all be the same. The rest of the government would block them at every chance, like Obama but both parties united against one president. Impeached first term maybe? Personally I think it would end the Republican's endless political superiority. The Republicans are far more of a problem when it comes to gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc so on the local level a Trump victory would mean huge upsets in state and local governments. If Clinton is defeated that is basically decapitating the Democratic leadership, who wants to listen to a loser especially one to un-lovable as Clinton? That would mean we might actually get real representation at the local level, might get these things which people are talking about more and more on the internet like 3rd party or getting money out of political races. Pretty sure that the GOP is not going to block Trump, or rather Trump is loving on record saying he's gonna delegate all of the presidential stuff to the VP. Pence is about a GOP rear end GOP member as you can get and will sign whatever Congress sends him. While picking conservative rear end justices to prevent positive change.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:That's the point, they back Trump and end up going down with him. You mean they back Trump and we end up going down with him.
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