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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Star wars licensing is a clusterfuck is why.

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Arcsquad12 posted:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/9/a-new-path-forward/

From the Dawn of War III thread. Games Workshop has cut ties with Fantasy Flight Games.

is that bad or good.

also at least some decent looking warhammer games are finally coming. inquesitor looks fun(i like the vanhelsing games) and corsair looks like Black flag but better.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It's bad if you like games like Only War or Dark Heresy and wanted to see them updated.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Time for some new books and this time around it's 40k time. Anyone have any recommendations for stuff that focuses on space combat of any scope?

I believe I asked this once over in Games and got recommended (at least, going by my bookshelf) Know No Fear, Fear to Tread and Deliverance Lost. (I frankly don't remember any of them that well, they're probably getting a re-read soon :v:)

Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Sep 11, 2016

Shroud
May 11, 2009

D-Pad posted:

Does anybody have the forum quote about how dark and metal traveling through the warp is? I remember a long time ago somebody posted a great, hyperbolic description of it and I can't find it. I asked for it in the PYF thread and nobody came through.

This?


Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Event Horizon is also a pretty good summary of warp travel, and probably the best unintentional 40k movie to date.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Arquinsiel posted:

So... uh...

I just saw an ad for this on tv :psyduck:

They've done something like this before, but without the subscription model. Black Library Classics.



The line ended after three volumes, so I'm assuming they didn't sell well. Because who would buy a series of books made up of random books from other series?

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you
That is some pretty sweet cover artwork though, gotta give 'em that.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I still prefer the Not!Gaunt cover art commissar from the main series.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

MMAgCh posted:

That is some pretty sweet cover artwork though, gotta give 'em that.

Looking at the cover for Nightbringer, can I not into perspective, or is literally everything wrong with this guy's anatomy?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Guy Goodbody posted:

Looking at the cover for Nightbringer, can I not into perspective, or is literally everything wrong with this guy's anatomy?



he looks weirdly Bishōnen, like he is too unmarked to be a space marine(outside the emperors children)

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

he looks weirdly Bishōnen, like he is too unmarked to be a space marine(outside the emperors children)

Welp, he also has hair, that's quite rare among space marines where the astartes pattern baldness is the norm.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Guy Goodbody posted:

They've done something like this before, but without the subscription model. Black Library Classics.



The line ended after three volumes, so I'm assuming they didn't sell well. Because who would buy a series of books made up of random books from other series?
Like it, but not the same. This is published by a company called Hatchette Partworks on sale beside their Marvel trade series in random newsagents. I grabbed the first one because three euro. It's actually a really high quality book too, with lots of colour art in the middle showing Legion colours, a timeline and character portraits and poo poo. Not worth 15 euro a book, but nice if you had money to piss away.

Shroud
May 11, 2009

Guy Goodbody posted:

Looking at the cover for Nightbringer, can I not into perspective, or is literally everything wrong with this guy's anatomy?



I think he's touching his shins without leaning over.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007
So after a long break from reading 40k fiction I got the itch again and ordered the Soul Drinkers omnibus and the first Blood Angels omnibus. Please tell me about what a horrible mistake I made.

Roller Coast Guard
Aug 27, 2006

With this magnificent aircraft,
and my magnificent facial hair,
the British Empire will never fall!


Mr.48 posted:

So after a long break from reading 40k fiction I got the itch again and ordered the Soul Drinkers omnibus and the first Blood Angels omnibus. Please tell me about what a horrible mistake I made.

The Soul Drinkers series is patchy at best - I liked the premise and some of the bolter porn sequences are nicely done but the overall story is an unconvincing mess.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mr.48 posted:

So after a long break from reading 40k fiction I got the itch again and ordered the Soul Drinkers omnibus and the first Blood Angels omnibus. Please tell me about what a horrible mistake I made.

You made some solidly unremarkable choices. Both of those are fine.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Sweet Emperor, this is beautiful

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer

Mr.48 posted:

So after a long break from reading 40k fiction I got the itch again and ordered the Soul Drinkers omnibus and the first Blood Angels omnibus. Please tell me about what a horrible mistake I made.

The Blood Angels book has been entirely retconned at this point for which I am very thankful because it is absolutely terrible. I don't think there's a Blood Angels player out there that actually likes those books. It's a shame because the chapter gets very few books but that's Black Library I guess :(


E: I guess I could elaborate a bit. Swallow completely ignores the existing fluff around the chapter and turns everyone stupid. I only made it through the first book but the entire premise was just bad.

Pendent fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Sep 12, 2016

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
Has anyone been crazy enough to purchase the new digital WD? I'm curious if it is only readable through the app, of it is is a standalone file only purchasable through the app.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006


That's it, thanks! Using this to get a friend into the black library. He's a metal head so it's right up his alley.

Wax Dynasty
Jan 1, 2013

This postseason, I've really enjoyed bringing back the three-inning save.


Hell Gem

Mr.48 posted:

So after a long break from reading 40k fiction I got the itch again and ordered the Soul Drinkers omnibus and the first Blood Angels omnibus. Please tell me about what a horrible mistake I made.

You have chosen

FWIW (not much), here's my ranking of the chapter-specific books series:

Great: Night Lords
Good: Space Wolves (old & new), Iron Warriors (which is really just one book Storm of Iron)
OK: Ultramarines (a mixed bag), Word Bearers
Bad: Soul Drinkers
Terrible: Salamanders, Blood Angels, Grey Knights (just read Emperor's Gift instead)

Wax Dynasty fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Sep 13, 2016

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo
What books do I read for Alpha Legion?

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
All of them :ssh:

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Wax Dynasty posted:

You have chosen

FWIW (not much), here's my ranking of the chapter-specific books series:

Great: Night Lords
Good: Space Wolves (old & new), Iron Warriors (which is really just one book Storm of Iron)
OK: Ultramarines (a mixed bag), Word Bearers
Bad: Soul Drinkers
Terrible: Salamanders, Blood Angels, Grey Knights (just read Emperor's Gift instead)

i always see iron warriors and word bearers in stores and amazon for cheaps. what did you think of them specificaly.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Wax Dynasty posted:

You have chosen

FWIW (not much), here's my ranking of the chapter-specific books series:

Great: Night Lords
Good: Space Wolves (old & new), Iron Warriors (which is really just one book Storm of Iron)
OK: Ultramarines (a mixed bag), Word Bearers
Bad: Soul Drinkers
Terrible: Salamanders, Blood Angels, Grey Knights (just read Emperor's Gift instead)

You forgot to mention Betrayer for World Eaters, which is top tier

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Wax Dynasty posted:

Iron Warriors (which is really just one book Storm of Iron)

Storm of Iron rules, but Siege of Castellax is the worst BL book I've ever opened.

mango sentinel posted:

What books do I read for Alpha Legion?
Legion. It's a Heresy novel but it's all about them and their webs of secrets and lies. I dig it.

bango skank
Jan 15, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Do the Night Lords feature prominently in any of the heresy novels? I was going to dive right into Gaunt's Ghosts next but after Night Lords and Lord of the Night I'm interested in reading more of Curze's story.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





bango skank posted:

Do the Night Lords feature prominently in any of the heresy novels? I was going to dive right into Gaunt's Ghosts next but after Night Lords and Lord of the Night I'm interested in reading more of Curze's story.

They're in a number of short stories, their big novel has kind of been Pharos.

Pharos is an interesting one, there's an good conversation between Sanguinius and Curze but on the whole it's an inferior author trying desperately to ape ADB's style. Everything from the everyman group of local soldiers to the cannibalism.

Wax Dynasty
Jan 1, 2013

This postseason, I've really enjoyed bringing back the three-inning save.


Hell Gem

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i always see iron warriors and word bearers in stores and amazon for cheaps. what did you think of them specificaly.

Storm of Iron is legitimately one of the best 40k books out there. As SRM mentioned, Siege of Castellax is best not even mentioned.

The Word Bearer books are generic and bland mostly. I only read them as there is some overlap with the Ultramarines series which I enjoyed more.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

SRM posted:

Storm of Iron rules, but Siege of Castellax is the worst BL book I've ever opened.

Didn't that one get added to the BL "Hall of fame" very recently?

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Cooked Auto posted:

Didn't that one get added to the BL "Hall of fame" very recently?
Yeah, I genuinely don't know why. I can only guess it's because it's a rare 40k book completely from the bad guys' perspective, with no real protagonists in sight. Just uncharacterized Orks and Snidely Whiplash-esque cartoon villains in the Iron warriors.

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

Looks like Master of Mankind will have an early release on Saturday 19th November, http://www.blacklibrary.com/black-library-live-2016.html

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009
Presumably in hardback only, then big massive paperback at basically the same price. Then two years later we get reasonable size and standard price.

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

What about the digital version? Do they put it out with the hardback?

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

SRM posted:

Legion. It's a Heresy novel but it's all about them and their webs of secrets and lies. I dig it.

Except don't expect the Alphas to actually show up much or get any characterization beyond absurdly deceptive and treacherous dicks. Legion is what made me start to hate the Alphas.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The alpha legion plays a big part in conspiring against the blood ravens in dawn of war 1 and retribution where they are trying to raise a daemon to challenge abaddon's authority. Stay for sindri myr screwing over puppet warlords

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Arcsquad12 posted:

Stay for sindri myr screwing over puppet warlords

SINDRIIIIIIII

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Miguel Prado posted:

What about the digital version? Do they put it out with the hardback?

Usually, yes.

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Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

berzerkmonkey posted:

Usually, yes.

And for twice the price!

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