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redbackground posted:Not quite, but came across it while searching: Thor's hammer is magical, so it should be wrecking Supes' poo poo. 
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Who What Now posted:Thor's hammer is magical, so it should be wrecking Supes' poo poo. But if he be worthy, he'd be able to lift it without getting wrecked. Thor should make sure he hits him somewhere superman can't grab the hammer and it'd probably wreck him up.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:30
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SpiritOfLenin posted:Isn't Thor's hammer magic, ie one of those few things that Superman is sorta weak to? Superman's weakness to magic isn't like Kryptonite. It is "he isn't immune to magic in the way he would be to anything else" so he can be brainwashed/shape-changed/whatever. He would still have super strength/ect when confronted with something magical. It is why the big iconic Captain Marvel vs Superman thing is Marvel hitting him with lightning. Marvel is entirely magic but that doesn't mean his punches instantly knock Superman out because Superman is still stronger and more durable than the average dude.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:33
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Not stronger than me. But I work out.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:38
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redbackground posted:Not quite, but came across it while searching: Just a shame they had to do this stuff during the terrible, terrible 90s period.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:42
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Red posted:Just a shame they had to do this stuff during the terrible, terrible 90s period. JLA/Avengers was in 2003-4.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:43
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redbackground posted:Not quite, but came across it while searching: Yeesh. I want to believe I didn't completely confabulate it. Is this also the one where Captain America and Batman fight only by looking at each other for a while, then agreeing who would win?  e: I am shamed Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Sep 13, 2016 19:48
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prefect posted:JLA/Avengers was in 2003-4. Oh, I was assuming it was in the same era as wifebeater shirt Hulk, bizarre armor Thor, and that weird new Spider-Man outfit.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:53
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Doc Hawkins posted:Yeesh. I want to believe I didn't completely confabulate it. Is this also the one where Captain America and Batman fight only by looking at each other for a while, then agreeing who would win? Yes, that's it. I did really like that they said "this is bullshit; somebody is loving with us" and didn't get into the obligatory fight. 
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Sep 13, 2016 19:58
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mind the walrus posted:I'm still mad that young Cyclops got poached before him and x23 could really hook up and weird everyone out, but her and Warren was a nice consolation prize. Why do you view this teenage girl's sex life as a tool to weird people out. ImpAtom posted:Superman's weakness to magic isn't like Kryptonite. It is "he isn't immune to magic in the way he would be to anything else" so he can be brainwashed/shape-changed/whatever. He would still have super strength/ect when confronted with something magical. It is why the big iconic Captain Marvel vs Superman thing is Marvel hitting him with lightning. Marvel is entirely magic but that doesn't mean his punches instantly knock Superman out because Superman is still stronger and more durable than the average dude. A lot of writers do treat it like Kryptonite. Like didn't a regular vampire bite his neck one time because vampires are magic? And aren't there a bunch of times where he's like "Oh no, this is MAGICAL fire, it burns!" Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Sep 13, 2016 20:29
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Red posted:Just a shame they had to do this stuff during the terrible, terrible 90s period. It's a real shame that everyone mistakes JLA/Avengers for the awful 90s Marvel vs. DC crossover. The former is:          The latter is:             Very much not equivalent. And these images weren't cherry-picked either. Google each title and see what comes up. Lurdiak posted:Why do you view this teenage girl's sex life as a tool to weird people out. Don't be dense. It's the novelty factor of seeing that without the baggage of Jean, Cyclops and girl-Wolverine would totally want to bang and having all the old X-Men get really grossed out by it.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:34
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But there is a ton of baggage there, which Bendis had to give Laura amnesia to sidestep. And she isn't girl-wolverine, she's her own person. It just seems really creepy to root for that pairing, to me.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:35
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Congratulations. I thought it was a funny meta joke.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:37
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Lurdiak posted:A lot of writers do treat it like Kryptonite. Like didn't a regular vampire bite his neck one time because vampires are magic? And aren't there a bunch of times where he's like "Oh no, this is MAGICAL fire, it burns!" He doesn't have additional protection from magic the way he does anything else. Wonder Woman's magic sword can cut him because it's a powerful magic weapon and can cut through the hides of monsters and poo poo, and vampire teeth tend to be allowed to bite through anything unless it's funny for them to fail. Likewise being set on magic fire sucks for him but he's still more resistant to it than a natural person and still super-strong and super fast and whatever. I'm sure there's some writer out there who had Superman go "A m-m-magic sword! My powers... draining..." or something but generally it's "not immunity to magic" as opposed to "vulnerable to magic." To put it in RPG terms the dude resists everything but Kryptonite which is Super Effective and magic which does normal damage.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:41
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Magic fire burns him because normal fire would burn a normal dude no matter how big and strong they are. It makes sense to me.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:47
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Superman can resist Thor's hammer because in JLA/Avengers it's well-established that Chaos Magick is much stronger in the DCU (it super-charges Wanda) and it's noted multiple times that many artifacts that work in one universe do not work in the other, thus it stands to reason that Thor's Hammer does not have the magical "oomph" needed to really crush Superman's skull in
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Sep 13, 2016 20:58
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Now explain this one.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:10
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Man was JLA/Avengers run was so good. Busiek and Perez were probably the perfect choice to helm the project and you can tell they just had a ball doing it.  .
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Sep 13, 2016 21:11
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In the Marvel universe Wanda is only capable of literally rewriting reality, while in the DC universe she can slightly harm a starfish.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:11
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Lurdiak posted:Now explain this one. Venom is powered by something stronger than magic: Popularity Polls
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Sep 13, 2016 21:12
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Ghostlight posted:In the Marvel universe Wanda is only capable of literally rewriting reality, while in the DC universe she can slightly harm a starfish. That was Starro invading the Marvel U. In the DCU she stuns the entire JLA at once. Lurdiak posted:Now explain this one. Sometimes writers suck and we all have to deal with it.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:13
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Vampires can't bite Superman, it causes them to explode. His cells are solar power batteries.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:14
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Supes shoulda brought Ben Grimm.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:14
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Dario the Wop posted:Vampires can't bite Superman, it causes them to explode. His cells are solar power batteries. Technically, they can totally bite him. It's just a bad idea.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:17
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Captain Bravo posted:Supes shoulda brought Ben Grimm. If I remember right Ben shows up for a page or so to drop something off and Cap tells Batman not to talk poo poo about the big rock monster because he's a good dude.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:19
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:If I remember right Ben shows up for a page or so to drop something off and Cap tells Batman not to talk poo poo about the big rock monster because he's a good dude. Sorry, I was trying to make an oblique reference to this:   (And yes, I know it's technically carnage, not venom, but whatever.)
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Sep 13, 2016 21:24
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mind the walrus posted:Superman can resist Thor's hammer because in JLA/Avengers it's well-established that Chaos Magick is much stronger in the DCU (it super-charges Wanda) and it's noted multiple times that many artifacts that work in one universe do not work in the other, thus it stands to reason that Thor's Hammer does not have the magical "oomph" needed to really crush Superman's skull in Incidentally, was that where they establish that Infinity Gauntlets don't work outside their home universe?
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Sep 13, 2016 21:27
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Endless Mike posted:Incidentally, was that where they establish that Infinity Gauntlets don't work outside their home universe?
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mind the walrus posted:Superman can resist Thor's hammer because in JLA/Avengers it's well-established that Chaos Magick is much stronger in the DCU (it super-charges Wanda) and it's noted multiple times that many artifacts that work in one universe do not work in the other, thus it stands to reason that Thor's Hammer does not have the magical "oomph" needed to really crush Superman's skull in This isn't a Marvel Letters Column, stop trying to win a No-Prize!
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Sep 13, 2016 22:52
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No-Prizes were a thing, right? Like an actual physical thing, right? Some sort of empty envelope or something?
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Sep 13, 2016 23:15
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Not originally, but Lee started sending out empty envelopes when people complained their No Prize hadn't arrived.
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Sep 13, 2016 23:21
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The Marvel No-Prize: And the short-lived DC Baldy:  (Which was a postcard rather than an empty envelope)
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Sep 13, 2016 23:25
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Monaghan posted:what superman didn't know is that Spider man is a master of hokuto no ken. the martial art is called hokuto shinken, you uncultured swine
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Sep 13, 2016 23:39
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Yeah the Buseik/Perez JLA/Avengers was great, pretty much everything Buseik was doing at the time was gold (I loved Avengers Forever). As for the Supers/Captain Marvel thing, I remember there is an issue where Marvel decks Superman with one punch and the guy with him is really impressed, and Marvel notes,"Well yeah, I sucker punched him! If he'd been ready for it I never could have taken him down like that."
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Sep 13, 2016 23:44
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah the Buseik/Perez JLA/Avengers was great, pretty much everything Buseik was doing at the time was gold (I loved Avengers Forever). That was during Morrison's JLA run. I remember it was actually two punches, because after the first one Supes has a great "what the hell?" expression while he's reeling.
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Sep 14, 2016 00:29
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:If I remember right Ben shows up for a page or so to drop something off and Cap tells Batman not to talk poo poo about the big rock monster because he's a good dude. I love that sequence. 
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Sep 14, 2016 00:44
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Lurdiak posted:Now explain this one. Real excuse DC used: It was just after Final Night and Superman's powers were at a low level/not working properly. Excuse I saw some guy use on the Internet once: Punching Venom is basically like punching a guy wearing suit made of pillows.
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Sep 14, 2016 02:47
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Venom looks so weird drawn like a normal person. Did the artist not know what Venom usually looks like? I mean Christ that looks almost like Spiderman 3's Venom, and that's not really a good thing.
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John Dyne posted:Venom looks so weird drawn like a normal person. Did the artist not know what Venom usually looks like? I liked Return of Venom where the artist made his mouth bigger every issue until he basically looked like a crocodile.
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