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Case 5 Trial 1 It feels weird having Phoenix on the right. I'm so used to having his shocked animations being a bad thing, but it means I'm doing good?!?!?!
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Having finished: This is legitimately one of the best Ace Attorney games, I'm very happy about it!
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Sep 14, 2016 03:15
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Pick posted:Having finished: This is legitimately one of the best Ace Attorney games, I'm very happy about it! Actually, going by twitter, it is in fact a poo poo game with bad names that doesn't hold a candle to the greatness that is Apollo Justice. I loving hate this fanbase sometimes.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:20
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Kay Kessler posted:Actually, going by twitter, it is in fact a poo poo game with bad names that doesn't hold a candle to the greatness that is Apollo Justice. some people just have really bad opinions about ace attorney. and while i respect those peoples' skill in drawing webcomics, that doesn't make their opinions about ace attorney any less bad
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Sep 14, 2016 03:24
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gonna shout it for the world: if you don't like the name pees'lubn andistan'dhin... then i don't like you!!!!!
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Sep 14, 2016 03:27
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Kay Kessler posted:Actually, going by twitter, it is in fact a poo poo game with bad names that doesn't hold a candle to the greatness that is Apollo Justice. I don't know what crazy rear end universe twitter you have but even if I don't think it's as bad as some people claim I still have to peg it as last on the list and everybody I've seen says the same.  My theory is that this is the second in a new trilogy. Or a Quadrilogy if you count AJ. (Beaten Game Spoilers) There's no way they'd leave this the final one especially with some things still being open ended and who shows up during the credits. And if she dies I will be VERY CROSS! Though I will say that this group has been really good at making previous open ended things managing to be super duper important somehow. Like I totally did not expect Thalassa Gramarye's first husband, who wasn't extrapolated on that much, being used in this way. That was fantastic and I was actually super happy I played through Apollo Justice. There's a reason I call this Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney 6: Apollo Justice Ace Attorney 3: Spirit of Justice: The Reckoning! Also case 4 might be my favorite side case and Uendo was great. Come fight me. Zaa Boogie fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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Sep 14, 2016 03:31
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hopeandjoy posted:Case 5 Day 2, late investigation: Have we learned nothing from Von Karma? Why am I showing the queen the photo? I going to lose it! Or all my evidence! I was sitting there contemplating life for a good minute as I presented evidence to this bitch and expecting her to just yank it all outta my hands.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:32
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Kay Kessler posted:Actually, going by twitter, it is in fact a poo poo game with bad names that doesn't hold a candle to the greatness that is Apollo Justice. You mean Phoenix Wright 4, introducing side character Apollo Justice?
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Sep 14, 2016 03:34
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GOD THIS TRIAL IS THE HYPEST poo poo
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Sep 14, 2016 03:34
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This game honestly has some of the best name puns in the series, I'd say. The best has to be (Case 5 Trial Day 2 spoilers) Inga's true name: Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in III , though I just about died after seeing pees'lubn andistan'dhin I beat the game yesterday, and it owns a whole lot. It's easily one of the best games in the series. Only real issue I have, is with Case 4. Like, I rather liked it, and it fits really well in the game's flow and the themes of the game, but I do wish there was a bit more to it than just the trial, if only just to see more interaction between Athena and Blackwell.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:39
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alcharagia posted:some people just have really bad opinions about ace attorney. and while i respect those peoples' skill in drawing webcomics, that doesn't make their opinions about ace attorney any less bad   can't wait til they get to (case 5) Inga Karkhuul Haw'kohd Dis'nahm Bi'ahni Lawga Ormo Pohmpus Da'nit Ar'edi Iz Khura'in III
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Sep 14, 2016 03:40
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Dad Jokes posted:
 Well that is one guy I personally wouldn't be friends with.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:41
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Kay Kessler posted:Actually, going by twitter, it is in fact a poo poo game with bad names that doesn't hold a candle to the greatness that is Apollo Justice. I can see why some (and, let's just say the name, Gigi) think that, because the franchise's whole feel has obviously changed since 4, courtesy of the new writing team. Even though they've gotten way better it's still not the same, and if that's what you're looking for you're not gonna get it. It's still a crazy opinion though. And also, you live in a twitter bubble, that's not the consensus at all.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:43
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Oh, another thing I feel like I've got to gush about. This game did a good job of feeling longer without no case going to day 3. Probably the only knock I'd give is that the dusting mechanic in this game feels the worst compared to every other time it showed up. But, yeah, I loved the hell out of Spirit of Justice and would put it in my top 3. And I have no idea how to rank my top 3.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:50
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Amppelix posted:I can see why some (and, let's just say the name, Gigi) think that, because the franchise's whole feel has obviously changed since 4, courtesy of the new writing team. Even though they've gotten way better it's still not the same, and if that's what you're looking for you're not gonna get it. It wasn't her I was referring to (I didn't even know she still talked about AA anymore, she's sworn off the series like 3 times already), just a couple of people I've seen. But yes, I'm aware that's not the consensus.
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Sep 14, 2016 03:56
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alcharagia posted:some people just have really bad opinions about ace attorney. and while i respect those peoples' skill in drawing webcomics, that doesn't make their opinions about ace attorney any less bad lol, even though I haven't checked twitter in like two years, as soon as you bring up webcomics I can make a guess about who you are talking about wrt ace attorney opinions
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Sep 14, 2016 04:08
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Amppelix posted:I can see why some (and, let's just say the name, Gigi) booya
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Sep 14, 2016 04:09
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reminder for case 5
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Sep 14, 2016 04:15
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Case 5 day one: Case 2 and just the first day of Case 5 with nothing else are both better finales for AA4 than the finale of AA4.
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Sep 14, 2016 04:27
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Case 4: There should have been an anime cutscene of Taka buying the sweet buns.
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Sep 14, 2016 04:27
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Wow that game was amazing satisfying. I am still grinning, and I finished the credits at least 20 minutes ago. Worth every hour.
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Sep 14, 2016 04:29
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hi I just got to case 5's 2nd day of the trial and what the gently caress
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Sep 14, 2016 04:36
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no seriously what the gently caress
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Sep 14, 2016 04:36
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TheKingofSprings posted:hi I just got to case 5's 2nd day of the trial and what the gently caress You ain't seen nothing yet.
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Sep 14, 2016 04:45
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This game is so loving good.
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Sep 14, 2016 05:01
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Amppelix posted:I can see why some (and, let's just say the name, Gigi) think that, because the franchise's whole feel has obviously changed since 4, courtesy of the new writing team. Even though they've gotten way better it's still not the same, and if that's what you're looking for you're not gonna get it. Gigi wrote off the entirety of DD because Newman wasn't trans like she hoped. I don't really respect her opinion on the series and I don't think you should either. Still fun to enjoy her comics though if you like them.
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Sep 14, 2016 05:25
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I beat the game. It was very good.
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Sep 14, 2016 05:29
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Gigi wrote off the entirety of DD because Newman wasn't trans like she hoped. I don't really respect her opinion on the series and I don't think you should either. I don't respect it much, but I am also quite sure the scenario you're describing did in fact not happen.
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Sep 14, 2016 05:46
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FInished Case 3. Felt like the longest case in the series, but I don't think it actually is Datz Are'bal owns
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Sep 14, 2016 05:48
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Kay Kessler posted:Actually, going by twitter, it is in fact a poo poo game with bad names that doesn't hold a candle to the greatness that is Apollo Justice. Apollo Justice does have some good qualities to it that the games before had, that the games before didn't have, and that the games after will likely never have. It's also very unique in the series for it's atmosphere, and that's in no small part thanks to the brilliant music and the great look of the game. I can legitimately see the tonal differences between the first 4 and the later 4 games being a problem for people, especially how -- speaking as somebody who liked both 5 (and especially 6) hamfisted and fanfiction-y the writing in the two games get compared to the older ones.
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Sep 14, 2016 05:49
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oh yeah apollo justice looks and sounds absolutely fantastic
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Sep 14, 2016 05:50
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TheKingofSprings posted:Apollo Justice does have some good qualities to it that the games before had, that the games before didn't have, and that the games after will likely never have. It's also very unique in the series for it's atmosphere, and that's in no small part thanks to the brilliant music and the great look of the game. What do you mean by more fanfiction-y?
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Sep 14, 2016 06:02
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SyntheticPolygon posted:What do you mean by more fanfiction-y? Not to speak for the guy who said it, but something I've noticed is that the more recent games are fond of suddenly making up history for existing characters, like Apollo's situation both in this game and with Clay, and Edgeworth with Dogen in AAI2.
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Sep 14, 2016 06:05
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AlphaKretin posted:Not to speak for the guy who said it, but something I've noticed is that the more recent games are fond of suddenly making up history for existing characters, like Apollo's situation both in this game and with Clay, and Edgeworth with Dogen in AAI2.
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Sep 14, 2016 06:09
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Amppelix posted:I don't respect it much, but I am also quite sure the scenario you're describing did in fact not happen. It did, she wrote a entire blogpost on it and frequently brings it up if asked. Really though it's a can of worms that should probably be shoved in the corner. E: Actual question, what's the fan favorite character of this game? I can't get enough of Datz. He's actually the best. ThisIsACoolGuy fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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Sep 14, 2016 06:13
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AlphaKretin posted:Not to speak for the guy who said it, but something I've noticed is that the more recent games are fond of suddenly making up history for existing characters, like Apollo's situation both in this game and with Clay, and Edgeworth with Dogen in AAI2. To be fair for Apollo at least, dude legitimately had no history until DD. And even then the stuff revealed about him this game I thought fit surprisingly well with what we knew of his past in AJ. Although him being the adopted son of a revolutionary leader/husband-to-the-queen of a foreign country was kind of out there. Though, in general DD and SoJ are way more over-dramatic and like ridiculous than the original games (not really a bad thing in my books). Which now that I think about it might have been what he meant by fanfictiony-y but I could still be wrong.
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Sep 14, 2016 06:18
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Haifisch posted:It's hard to say what counts as "suddenly", though. Basically all of Phoenix's backstory in 3 could be viewed as "sudden", since none of it existed or was relevant before. You could argue Apollo specifically has gotten a lot of backstory that feels tacked-on(and I'd agree), but I think that's because they didn't know where to go with him after 4. I agree with all this. There's no indication in the first or second game that Phoenix ever met Mia before he got a job working under her or that he once had a girlfriend (and it was terrible). The reason the additions to his backstory don't feel "fanfic-y" is that it's been 12 years (9 years, over here) since his backstory was expanded on. It was also only revealed 3 years (2 years for us) after Phoenix himself was introduced. It's now been normal for a long rear end time. Apollo's expanded backstory, meanwhile, is comparatively new and was not released until 6 years (for Clay) and 9 years (for Apollo's family minus his mom) after Apollo himself was introduced. Who Apollo "is" to most people is more established than who Phoenix "is" was at the time of TaT's release.
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Sep 14, 2016 06:18
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SyntheticPolygon posted:To be fair for Apollo at least, dude legitimately had no history until DD. And even then the stuff revealed about him this game I thought fit surprisingly well with what we knew of his past in AJ. Although him being the adopted son of a revolutionary leader/husband-to-the-queen of a foreign country was kind of out there. No, you hit the nail on the head there. And it works for me, but I can see it not working for other people.
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Sep 14, 2016 06:21
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Everything everyone's said is very fair.
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Sep 14, 2016 06:22
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You wouldn't expect Power Creep in a lawyer game but here we are.
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Sep 14, 2016 06:23
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