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Falun Bong Refugee posted:I think the most telling part is you actually do have access to read that paper since it's open to the public but you didn't know that because you never did, how do you think I knew the conclusion???
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i cannot control myself from destroying unhealthy people's self esteem
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Sep 14, 2016 14:06
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Are we pretending behavioral science is actually science now?
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Sep 14, 2016 14:08
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Are we picking and choosing the science we want to believe in based on whether or not it agrees with our worldview?
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Sep 14, 2016 14:30
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runupon cracker posted:Are we picking and choosing the science we want to believe in based on whether or not it agrees with our worldview? No. Behavioral science is literally not science. Cherry picking individual studies also isn't scientific because of the severe selection bias involved in paper publication.
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Sep 14, 2016 14:33
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To put it in a way even programmers can understand:
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Germstore posted:No. Behavioral science is literally not science. According to whom? quote:Cherry picking individual studies also isn't scientific because of the severe selection bias involved in paper publication. Feel free to post studies that come to different conclusions on the effects of shame. Also, lol nice webcomic. Great science you've got going there.
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Germstore posted:No. Behavioral science is literally not science. Cherry picking individual studies also isn't scientific because of the severe selection bias involved in paper publication. it's amazing when people cherry pick studies, especially on subjects that have like no studies done on but a handful, then claim that is conclusive overwhelming evidence like the reason climate change is a thing is because there's many multiple scientific studies done that all show this same repeated evidence, not because all the scientists took a vote and agreed on it one study is just a puzzle piece, and sometimes its for the wrong puzzle or unusable. (you should answer the question why behavioral science isn't science though, since it does the same peer reviewed process) C-SPAN Caller fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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Sep 14, 2016 14:40
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In behavioral science it is almost always too expensive to have a proper sample size or to actually repeat studies. And it would be too immoral to actually use the scientific method so it tends to be more data mining than science.
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Germstore posted:To put it in a way even programmers can understand: what a horrible comic
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I know, but the point it makes is valid.
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Sep 14, 2016 14:48
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Obviously I understand why you can't take 2000 people put them in the same daily situation except for their scientifically administered shame dose, but you'll forgive me if I take less stock in those studies when taken in isolation.
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Sep 14, 2016 14:53
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so where are your studies about the positive effects of shame? Or are you going to continue Rick Perrying it up?
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Sep 14, 2016 14:54
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runupon cracker posted:so where are your studies about the positive effects of shame? Or are you going to continue Rick Perrying it up? I will continue to call you a baby goon for linking random abstracts you googled.
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Sep 14, 2016 14:56
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cheers, guv'nah
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Sep 14, 2016 14:57
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I hope you won't mind if I continue calling you a self-loathing piece of poo poo who puts other people down to feel better about himself
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Sep 14, 2016 14:58
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Germstore posted:In behavioral science it is almost always too expensive to have a proper sample size or to actually repeat studies. And it would be too immoral to actually use the scientific method so it tends to be more data mining than science. behavior scientist should stop designing lovely experiments and just become historians if they want to data mine human activity
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Sep 14, 2016 14:59
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runupon cracker posted:I hope you won't mind if I continue calling you a self-loathing piece of poo poo who puts other people down to feel better about himself are you trying to make me fat?
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runupon cracker posted:a self-loathing piece of poo poo who puts other people down to feel better about himself I might stick this text at the bottom of my avatar.
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And I'll have you know I'm very nice on and offline. I only give people poo poo on GBS where it's completely consensual. In fact even on GBS I don't go into threads that I know I disagree with just to call people assholes.
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Sep 14, 2016 15:05
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Pistol_Pete posted:I might stick this text at the bottom of my avatar. gently caress, I've been dying to know more about the source of your avatar for years. Space Marine and Slanaash or whatever?
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Deep down inside themselves, fat people want to be shamed. They crave and get off on negative attention. That's why they eat 3000 calories of cheese per day. Why should we deny them what they obviously so desperately crave?
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Sep 14, 2016 15:09
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runupon cracker posted:so where are your studies about the positive effects of shame? Or are you going to continue Rick Perrying it up? a single study doesn't become more credible just because there's a lack of other studies on the subject
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Sep 14, 2016 15:09
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runupon cracker posted:so where are your studies about the positive effects of shame? Or are you going to continue Rick Perrying it up? i think you actually are his study
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Sep 14, 2016 15:10
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How many nurses and EMTs have ruined backs because of fatties?
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Sep 14, 2016 15:12
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Frosted Flake posted:How many nurses and EMTs have ruined backs because of fatties? it approaches 100%, but if you think about it the real monsters are people that say "fat isn't healthy" on a plainly labeled thread on the shitposting subforum of a comedy website.
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Sep 14, 2016 15:19
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 When you saw a man this big in 1903, he was among the fattest men alive. But for me, it was Tuesday.
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Sep 14, 2016 15:21
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Zzulu posted:take some drat personal responsibility Agreed, you should set the example to be a good kind person who doesn't bully others to your kid.
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oldpainless posted:
 Remember when Roseanne's sitcom was considered 'fat' for TV?
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runupon cracker posted:so where are your studies about the positive effects of shame? Or are you going to continue Rick Perrying it up? I find it makes for a good laugh on a comedy forum, and I've been told laughter is the best medicine so.. Seriously tho, if there was some way you could stop having your dignity destroyed by shaming posts, or stop jamming food in your face, it would be amazing. Too bad that is just too much effort.
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Sep 14, 2016 15:32
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Carmant posted:Agreed, you should set the example to be a good kind person who doesn't bully others to your kid. I love the idea that somehow "being good and kind" means any criticism of self harming behavior is bullying. How can you change if you can't accept the reality of your destructive behavior?
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Blitter posted:I love the idea that somehow "being good and kind" means any criticism of self harming behavior is bullying. Most fat ppl know that being fat is not good and most ppl who mae fun of the fat dont actually give a poo poo about anyones health
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Fat folk wear their weakness like a full body suit and its frustrating to observe
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Sep 14, 2016 15:42
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Like a dork wearing a fedora
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Sep 14, 2016 15:43
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I was fat as a teenager, very fat. I sorted myself out and now am healthy and look alright. That's why I don't have much sympathy for really fat people as it does take discipline. Sure, mental illness and despair make it difficult to take action for some, but a lot are just lazy and in denial that they are unhappy. I love this image, and the video that it's from. Great watch.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6mMpE8AaA0
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henpod posted:I was fat as a teenager, very fat. I sorted myself out and now am healthy and look alright. That's why I don't have much sympathy for really fat people as it does take discipline. Sure, mental illness and despair make it difficult to take action for some, but a lot are just lazy and in denial that they are unhappy. Always good.
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Sep 14, 2016 15:58
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Blitter posted:I love the idea that somehow "being good and kind" means any criticism of self harming behavior is bullying. Not all criticism of self-harming behavior is shaming. But hey, nice straw man.
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runupon cracker posted:Not all criticism of self-harming behavior is shaming. But hey, nice straw man. How is that a straw man? It sounded like a fair point.
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Zzulu posted:Like a dork wearing a fedora about time someone on these forums took the fedora down a notch
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Wicker Man posted:How is that a straw man? It sounded like a fair point. you sound like an idiot. stfu
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