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Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


We just finished shipping all of our products for the new school year, so I don't have much to do but sit and browse the forums for a couple of hours a day. :toot:



Day 4 and it's killing me.

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Beastie posted:

We just finished shipping all of our products for the new school year, so I don't have much to do but sit and browse the forums for a couple of hours a day. :toot:

Day 4 and it's killing me.

Man, I'll never understand this. Maybe I'm just super lazy, but my job is literally like 90% downtime and I couldn't be happier.

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008

Well, I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.
Some dipshit just showed up for an interview with my company wearing a blazer with jeans, a t-shirt, and sneakers. He asked the receptionist for a bottle of water. She doesn't have any. Then he asked her to print his resume. Then he asked for a second copy. Page one of his five-page resume is just a full-sized picture of himself.

I made sure to walk out to the lobby to see him, because I'm definitely not going to see his rear end again.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

quote:

Page one of his five-page resume is just a full-sized picture of himself.

:lol: This is amazing. I've heard of some countries having standards of including a picture in your resume (a few jobs I applied to in Australia a few years ago wanted passport-sized photos as part of resume), but a full-sized photo? That's a new one.


Next week once I'm done with the craziness going on this week, I'm going to have to do a write-up of all the ridiculous poor decisions our utility engineering group has made over the last two years for our new facility. Will gather photos and put something together, because it's awful. Everything from exploding pipes that over-pressurize to sink designs that don't work to industrial hot water that doesn't have a recirculation loop, to grouped floor drains that regurgitate into other processing rooms if you have other floor caps open. It's amazing, and it's all at one centralized point of failure -- the utilities engineering group.

Fano
Oct 20, 2010

WampaLord posted:

Man, I'll never understand this. Maybe I'm just super lazy, but my job is literally like 90% downtime and I couldn't be happier.

It just makes my day go by so much slower when I'm not busy, I'd rather just be home at that point.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
Dear salespeople, accountant, GM, CEO, and CFO:

It's really loving hard to do my job when you tie up my office for an hour and a loving half for a meeting :bang:

At least I got paid for an hour and a half of jack gently caress.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


WampaLord posted:

Man, I'll never understand this. Maybe I'm just super lazy, but my job is literally like 90% downtime and I couldn't be happier.

I mean it feels great to get paid for it but they days just crawl by.

Also the forums just don't have the content it used generate back when I joined in :regd06: .

Don't get me wrong, there's still good poo poo on here but I remember 10 years ago I could waste a whole day of college classes in GBS.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Beastie posted:

I mean it feels great to get paid for it but they days just crawl by.

Also the forums just don't have the content it used generate back when I joined in :regd06: .

Don't get me wrong, there's still good poo poo on here but I remember 10 years ago I could waste a whole day of college classes in GBS.

There are other sites besides this dead gay comedy forum!?

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Sundae posted:

:lol: This is amazing. I've heard of some countries having standards of including a picture in your resume (a few jobs I applied to in Australia a few years ago wanted passport-sized photos as part of resume), but a full-sized photo? That's a new one.


Next week once I'm done with the craziness going on this week, I'm going to have to do a write-up of all the ridiculous poor decisions our utility engineering group has made over the last two years for our new facility. Will gather photos and put something together, because it's awful. Everything from exploding pipes that over-pressurize to sink designs that don't work to industrial hot water that doesn't have a recirculation loop, to grouped floor drains that regurgitate into other processing rooms if you have other floor caps open. It's amazing, and it's all at one centralized point of failure -- the utilities engineering group.

I hope no one that is reviewing that write up is friends with someone on the utilities engineering group. Or some other office politics reason that allowed that group to be so incompetent for a prolonged period of time. I hope you are successful in your endeavors in making pharmaceuticals meet a minimum level of safety, like for real.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

fits my needs posted:

I hope no one that is reviewing that write up is friends with someone on the utilities engineering group. Or some other office politics reason that allowed that group to be so incompetent for a prolonged period of time. I hope you are successful in your endeavors in making pharmaceuticals meet a minimum level of safety, like for real.

Oh, I meant for the entertainment of the TPS thread. :haw: Everyone in my actual facility knows that the utilities group is full of poo poo. No need for a write-up for that!

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

WampaLord posted:

Man, I'll never understand this. Maybe I'm just super lazy, but my job is literally like 90% downtime and I couldn't be happier.

I'm in a similar situation (90% seems high though, dang) but if I didn't have personal projects and several things I could do with that free time I would go stir-crazy after a while. I dread the day IT blocks SA or YouTube on the company Wi-Fi, they hit Facebook a couple months ago which is hopefully enough to sate them.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

C-Euro posted:

(90% seems high though, dang)

I'm IT support and our platform is actually good enough and locked down enough that problems are pretty rare and solutions are pretty simple.

I know, it's like the unicorn of IT jobs. I'm holding onto it for dear life.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

WampaLord posted:

Man, I'll never understand this. Maybe I'm just super lazy, but my job is literally like 90% downtime and I couldn't be happier.

It's great until you start wondering when HR is going to catch on and fire your rear end. Then the paranoia sets in. :tinfoil:

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009

WampaLord posted:

Man, I'll never understand this. Maybe I'm just super lazy, but my job is literally like 90% downtime and I couldn't be happier.

Mine isn't exactly like that. It is long periods of trying to stay busy punctuated by briefer periods of OMG EVERYTHING IS ON FIRE!!!@!! and you never know when the next fire will hit. The stress and the fact that no one knows when the next flaming pile of crap is coming, along with the hours make it so that while I have free time, I just sit and play solitaire because I can't really focus on anything else. I really wish I had the focus to do some learning or hell even exercise, but I am way burnt out.

Also yeah, they could get by with less people, until you get a bunch of crap at once. I don't know which would be worse, getting let go, or having to stay and get dumped on.

Tomfoolery
Oct 8, 2004

Friday - Our VP sends an email informing us of the resignation of Senior Director A
Wednesday 10:42 am - Director B reporting to Senior Director A sends an email promoting a direct report to Manager
Wednesday 11:18 am - Senior Director A sends out an email that Director B has resigned

FREEEEEEFALLLLLL

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Tomfoolery posted:

Friday - Our VP sends an email informing us of the resignation of Senior Director A
Wednesday 10:42 am - Director B reporting to Senior Director A sends an email promoting a direct report to Manager
Wednesday 11:18 am - Senior Director A sends out an email that Director B has resigned

FREEEEEEFALLLLLL

Send a company-wide email appointing yourself Managing Senior Director.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Most of our workload is on Monday, Thursday, Friday so it's the Tuesday's and Wednesday's that just drag and drag.

Does yahoo still have those sites where I can play billiards?

Problem!
Jan 1, 2007

I am the queen of France.
Pretty much every time I swing by a particular coworker's desk he's got Reddit in a little window off to the side. Just because it's text-based doesn't mean it's not pretty recognizable as Not Work. I don't really care since we all dick around here and there but I keep my browsing limited to my phone using my personal data and not the company's wifi because :tinfoil:

It only pissed me off one time when I was SWAMPED and was trying to find people to offload some work to and he was like "nope busy" and continued to sit there Redditing all day.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
My next door coworker brought in foul-smelling food for breakfast and is chewing it loudly. I am in hell.

Shrieking Muppet
Jul 16, 2006
So next week our VP wants to have round table meetings with members of my department. I don't see the point because we all know anyone who says why people are leaving in droves will be branded a trouble maker and canned. And if we did tell them the reality (they have over promised and we don't trust management) they wouldn't believe it.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
That's pretty much par for the course for any VP. Go in, act concerned but unwilling to hear any actual truth, make an example of anyone who has the cojones to try and make things better. Repeat ad nauseum. Get golden parachute when things tank. The system works.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!
It's the Gervais Principle in action. Find someone to take the fall and make it to your next quarterly bonus alive, rinse and repeat.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Beastie posted:

I mean it feels great to get paid for it but they days just crawl by.

Also the forums just don't have the content it used generate back when I joined in :regd06: .

Don't get me wrong, there's still good poo poo on here but I remember 10 years ago I could waste a whole day of college classes in GBS.

It still has the content, it's just not in GBS anymore. The Trump thread goes maybe 2000 pages a day.

Miss-Bomarc
Aug 1, 2009

Sundae posted:

Everything from exploding pipes that over-pressurize to sink designs that don't work to industrial hot water that doesn't have a recirculation loop, to grouped floor drains that regurgitate into other processing rooms if you have other floor caps open.
what the gently caress, do you work in Boatmurdered

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Miss-Bomarc posted:

what the gently caress, do you work in Boatmurdered

Not quite. No goblins.

Someone with no clue about pharma utilities put together the design for the facility three years ago, the project floundered for a year, and then nobody who picked it up after the original dwarves all left wanted to question the design because now the project was behind schedule and going back to design phase was bad.

Some of the problems aren't entirely intuitive, but anyone qualified to do the job should have caught them on risk assessment anyway. For example, different suites have different degrees of negative air pressure by design. So... what happens when you have floor drains open in two different rooms that aren't at the same pressure levels? You create a pressure gradient through the floor piping and suck air from one room up into another. Now, what if you didn't put in an adequate air-trap / air-dissipation box into the piping on top of that? You create the potential for the pressure differential to make the path of least resistance for liquids be in the direction of the pressure differential, and instead of going down the loving drain, your CIP water goes into the next suite instead.

That sort of fun.

Then my new group came along this year (two of us from the same J&J hell-company plus one seriously talented Takeda exile) and we're making GBS threads all over the original design and sending everything back to design phase because gently caress it, we're going to have to "own" the facility once the handover phase is complete. No way in hell am I putting my operators in a room with a pressure system that had no relief valves built into it, for example. Long story short, we added 6+ months onto the facility group's timeline and told them to fix it all. Steering Committee agreed with us, so they're stuck now. We will have our functional site whether Facilities Engineering protests or not. :)

Sundae fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Sep 18, 2016

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Sundae posted:

Long story short, we added 6+ months onto the facility group's timeline and told them to fix it all. Steering Committee agreed with us, so they're stuck now. We will have our functional site whether Facilities Engineering protests or not. :)

My worldview doesn't allow for Sundae's employers to listen to, agree with, and implement his recommendations.

Keetron
Sep 26, 2008

Check out my enormous testicles in my TFLC log!

Ornamented Death posted:

My worldview doesn't allow for Sundae's employers to listen to, agree with, and implement his recommendations.

To be honest, I am just waiting for after the completion of the site for the guy who used to lead the Facilities Engineering dept to become Sundae's boss.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Ornamented Death posted:

My worldview doesn't allow for Sundae's employers to listen to, agree with, and implement his recommendations.

Same here, though it sounds like Sunday has said "here is how you're going to lose 1m in suits, attrition, and damage, vs the 100k and 2w it would take to do it right" per room, in which case they'd be negligent to not liahahaha sorry I can't, I just can't.

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica
I'm about to go into an hour long bikeshedding meeting with 20+ people on the invite list that includes 3 development teams worth of engineers, product owners, scrum masters, technical leads, and 2/3rds of the layer of management just below our CIO.

The first item on the agenda is if all 3 apps should include the "parent app" acronym as part of their context url.

Please pray for my liver...

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Greatbacon posted:

bikeshedding meeting

:confused:

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshedding

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I got a promotion! And an 11.5% raise! And a title change!

It is a good day :)

My manager told me it's been a long time coming and that she got me the promotion as soon as she possibly could have and regretted the delays caused by HR, company policy, and my first team handicapping me by laying me off without a review cycle to boost me into the new role. This meant that I missed out on two cycles' worth of reviews, and I should've had this promotion in April. I'm just ecstatic that my boss followed through with her promise to get this for me and she even fought like hell to get me more money, but apparently the HR lady told her not to push her luck.

I'll be eligible for another raise in April, which my boss has told me will be larger than normal because she's trying to bring my pay up to what she feels like I'm worth. Not bad - I went from $66k to $74k with this jump.

Question: Given that I have a new title but my responsibilities are still largely the same, how should I reflect this on my resume? I want to highlight the new title because it'll open a lot of new doors for me in my career path and "Engineer" sounds a lot better than "Technician".

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

HonorableTB posted:

I got a promotion! And an 11.5% raise! And a title change!

It is a good day :)

My manager told me it's been a long time coming and that she got me the promotion as soon as she possibly could have and regretted the delays caused by HR, company policy, and my first team handicapping me by laying me off without a review cycle to boost me into the new role. This meant that I missed out on two cycles' worth of reviews, and I should've had this promotion in April. I'm just ecstatic that my boss followed through with her promise to get this for me and she even fought like hell to get me more money, but apparently the HR lady told her not to push her luck.

I'll be eligible for another raise in April, which my boss has told me will be larger than normal because she's trying to bring my pay up to what she feels like I'm worth. Not bad - I went from $66k to $74k with this jump.

Question: Given that I have a new title but my responsibilities are still largely the same, how should I reflect this on my resume? I want to highlight the new title because it'll open a lot of new doors for me in my career path and "Engineer" sounds a lot better than "Technician".

Nice! I've always heard that for a given company you should put your most recent/advanced title on a resume unless it's a completely different role. Someone can confirm/deny this but it's what I would do in your position.

Good work news today- "two weeks vacation" means two calendar weeks and not two work weeks so I can do my big year-end trip without having to make up time :toot:

Bad work news today- one of my friends from CS gave notice today :( I will miss her laughing at everything I say and complimenting my lunches, plus our Sales and CS teams are already strained so this will be a good time to stay in my office away from them.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Greatbacon posted:

I'm about to go into an hour long bikeshedding meeting with 20+ people on the invite list that includes 3 development teams worth of engineers, product owners, scrum masters, technical leads, and 2/3rds of the layer of management just below our CIO.

The first item on the agenda is if all 3 apps should include the "parent app" acronym as part of their context url.

Please pray for my liver...

This honestly might be a good think unless A)The app could all be one and the same B)the apps all do different things and you want to avoid the "this is a giant multinational" issue.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

There's a group here trying to make a data management system, since all of our data is either in Excel sheets in the ether or in PDF memos that were scanned, rather than saved as a PDF. It is a noble and probably useful endeavor, except that this group has like 10 people working on this loving thing, and exactly none of them are programmers or UX designers or even have any degree of training on either. So the initial goals for this project were pie in the sky poo poo like seamless integration with our data analysis software so that it would automatically upload the data into this database and other departments would have similarly seamless integration with their data acquisition, so that all departments can have access to each other's data and be able to crank out charts showing historical trends and whatnot.

The reality of it, from what I can tell since I am luckily not involved with this clusterfuck of an effort, is that it will be a glorified Google Doc. Also at some point our IT department got severely cut (40-60% reduction by some estimates?), so they outsourced the programming to India. Note again that there are like 10 goddamn people working on this, going to a weekly one hour meeting that, from what I've heard, is just more pie in the sky idea brainstorming. It sounds like one of those Kickstarters for something that comes straight from an "ideas guy," but without any sort of basis in reality as to how to execute said ideas. I feel like we've created this weird culture where people associate scientists and PhDs with intelligence, when really they can be dumber than a high school dropout in some respects, but their egos would rarely allow them to accept it.

I am going to quit next year and join the Peace Corps, I think.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

GrandpaPants posted:

I feel like we've created this weird culture where people associate scientists and PhDs with intelligence, when really they can be dumber than a high school dropout in some respects, but their egos would rarely allow them to accept it.

I do see this, too. The company takes "science first, science is god" a bit too far, to the point where "scientists first, scientists are god" is the take-home point for some people. I like watching well-earned comeuppance, though, so the egos come with some benefits. :v:


quote:

There's a group here trying to make a data management system, since all of our data is either in Excel sheets in the ether or in PDF memos that were scanned, rather than saved as a PDF.

First sign of impending project doom: "We have no experience with ____________, but we can make a better _________________ ourselves!" There are reasons that all those DMS companies still exist, and it's because the rest of us can't design a database to save our loving lives.

Shrieking Muppet
Jul 16, 2006

GrandpaPants posted:

I feel like we've created this weird culture where people associate scientists and PhDs with intelligence, when really they can be dumber than a high school dropout in some respects, but their egos would rarely allow them to accept it.

Dear god the more time I spend as a scientist the more I've realized this. Outside of some special snowflake field they work in a lot of them are useless for most other things. Of course my job then makes them supervisors and managers and then wonders why retention is so abysmal.

Also this weeks fun, management has asked us to stay late to finish projects to meet end of the quarter time lines. In order to get us encouraged they said they are offering us financial incentives, The entire department is salary.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

GrandpaPants posted:

I feel like we've created this weird culture where people associate scientists and PhDs with intelligence, when really they can be dumber than a high school dropout in some respects, but their egos would rarely allow them to accept it.

I am going to quit next year and join the Peace Corps, I think.

a. note that there's an A/T peace corps thread, useful info there.
b. this is a problem for most well-paid fields- there's an assumption that the intellectual skills required to succeed will generalize, when they almost categorically don't. In my line of research it's even worse for MDs, because there's a widespread misconception that medical school contains training in science, rather than just training in some of the results of science.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

quote:

b. this is a problem for most well-paid fields- there's an assumption that the intellectual skills required to succeed will generalize, when they almost categorically don't. In my line of research it's even worse for MDs, because there's a widespread misconception that medical school contains training in science, rather than just training in some of the results of science.

Amen to this.

All I have to say about the generalization of scientific skills is...



One bullet point among ten pages of a project audit presentation tearing our facilities engineering group to shreds. From what I've seen, the one seriously good way to get hosed hard for poor performance here is for your project to run so far over budget that the Swiss Overlords notice you. Our facilities engineering team has the dubious honor of being in the spotlight right now.

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Drink and Fight
Feb 2, 2003

I gave my two weeks notice. My boss sounded like she was going to cry. :(

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