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Maxwell Adams posted:He definitely got the drama right. I think the main problem with his run is the terrible villains the X-Men had to deal with. The changes made to The Hellfire Club were atrocious, and that lasted until it finally got fixed last week. Even the lame villains can be pretty great, though. I'll always love the scene where the U-Men stage their assault against the mansion, only to have Jean Grey beat their entire group single-handedly. Am I slowly forgetting Grant's run. I don't remember what he did with the Hellfire Club. Are you thinking about Aaron's run? EDIT: How much SEX did you find in 118, Toxx?
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Sep 14, 2016 19:40
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Die Laughing posted:Am I slowly forgetting Grant's run. I don't remember what he did with the Hellfire Club. Are you thinking about Aaron's run? I remember some drinking going on at the Hellfire Club during the Bachalo issues, but that's it.
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Sep 14, 2016 19:49
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It was turned into a strip club wasn't it? That's where the Scott/Logan story arc starts.
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Sep 14, 2016 20:32
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Two things: Elsa Bloodstone in A-Force 9 is my new permanent aesthetic. Every single panel that she's in, whatever she's doing, is unbelievable.  This is the most spiderman.jpg panel I've seen in a long, long time.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:14
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Elsa Bloodstone is a great character in general. I wish Spurrier was writing her in something else after the great Marvel Zombies mini he did for Secret Wars.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:17
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Dario the Wop posted:It was turned into a strip club wasn't it? That's where the Scott/Logan story arc starts. Oh yeah. Wolverine and Sabertooth talk poo poo at the pisser. Of course the Hellfire Club would have a gentlemans club. I'm sure Claremont would have done it if he could have gotten away with it in the 80's.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:20
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Miles having the talk with Luke and Jessica was pretty great. Him trying to salvage his identity then spending the rest of it freaking out was hilarious. Gwenpool on the other hand was super hosed up and off-putting. Like what the gently caress story is this book trying to tell because Gwen casually trying to shoot a kid in the face is kinda messed up, regardless of what the kid did.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:27
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It was loving great, is what it was. Gwenpool's turning into an all-time comic book with this issue, it was loving fantastic.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:28
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Toxxupation posted:
I really wish colourists could colour the web pattern on Spider-Man's costume so that it doesn't look like it's made of segments of some hard/shiny material. We've been there before: 
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Sep 14, 2016 22:35
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I have to wait until tomorrow to go to the comic shop, so I'm just reading stuff off of Marvel Unlimited. I finished Inhumans and Magneto Rex just now. I'm thinking of reading Marvel Boy and Sentry next.
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Sep 14, 2016 22:36
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Roth posted:I have to wait until tomorrow to go to the comic shop, so I'm just reading stuff off of Marvel Unlimited. both of those are good reads. you will not be disappointed. i did a big post in recommendations months ago about comics i found on MU I enjoyed. spoilers: i enjoy most comics
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Lurdiak posted:People complained about the ninjas in Daredevil because they were done badly. Rhyno posted:And what about that goddamned hole they were digging!?!?! Heh heh, those darn ninjas. They're wacky. (Ninja are never, ever cool, sorry guys. They all look like they're in ISIS or something.) Back to talking about Morrison now. I've got to read it, I've got Unlimited. I started once years ago, to read the actual comics or trades but something came up IRL.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:04
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X-O posted:Elsa Bloodstone is a great character in general. The post-Nextwave version is great. The original version is like shittier Buffy.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:06
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Dario the Wop posted:Thanks for correcting me. I honestly associated the Legacy Virus with the '90s so I thought he'd been dead a few years. I also assumed that Morrison wouldn't read the previous era of X-Men comics. What I've heard is that he read the Claremont and Byrne issues and virtually nothing else, which explain why he wrote Magneto the way he did.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:37
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Miles having the talk with Luke and Jessica was pretty great. Him trying to salvage his identity then spending the rest of it freaking out was hilarious. The whole part AFTER Banner's death is really heartbreaking with Miles, Nova and Kamala just not knowing how to process what's happened, and how destroyed Kamala is, and the boys moving to comfort her. I want Elsa to be in Netflix or AoS or something so badly.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:39
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Toxxupation posted:Two things: I fukken love the Nextwave censorship skulls.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:48
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Wheat Loaf posted:What I've heard is that he read the Claremont and Byrne issues and virtually nothing else, which explain why he wrote Magneto the way he did. Well that and 9/11.
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Sep 14, 2016 23:50
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The pitch document makes it clear that he read the major stories, Morrison just loathes continuity like any sane person and he didn't give a poo poo if he pissed off a few fanboys who were overly attached to the shitheap that was 90s X-Men. I mean, look at the name of the book. 
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Sep 15, 2016 01:26
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I'm glad that Morrison decided to turn Scott into the world's biggest, lamest, most pathetic goon ever. Because Scott Summers loving sucks.
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Sep 15, 2016 01:36
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Young Scott is pretty rad though.
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Sep 15, 2016 02:36
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Like seriously "I hosed my marriage up irretrievably because I couldn't stop thinking about the weird sex stuff I wanted to do with my wife" is up there in the pantheon of nebbish loser ways to ruin a relationship. 100% Cyclops, gently caress that guy.X-O posted:Young Scott is pretty rad though. Yeah that's true, young Scott is basically everything I wanted from Scott Summers as a character.
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Sep 15, 2016 02:42
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 Da motherfucking SHIELD z0ne
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Sep 15, 2016 02:50
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Die Laughing posted:Am I slowly forgetting Grant's run. I don't remember what he did with the Hellfire Club. Are you thinking about Aaron's run? Actually I was remembering things wrong. The Hellfire Club was ruined during Schism, which was waaay after New X-Men.
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Sep 15, 2016 02:54
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Gwenpool on the other hand was super hosed up and off-putting. Like what the gently caress story is this book trying to tell because Gwen casually trying to shoot a kid in the face is kinda messed up, regardless of what the kid did. I'm pretty sure the comic wants you to think that what Gwenpool tried to do is hosed up.
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Sep 15, 2016 03:11
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Wont she just regard everyone as just fictional characters?
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Sep 15, 2016 03:45
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Toxxupation posted:Like seriously "I hosed my marriage up irretrievably because I couldn't stop thinking about the weird sex stuff I wanted to do with my wife" is up there in the pantheon of nebbish loser ways to ruin a relationship. 100% Cyclops, gently caress that guy. So it's pretty clear you didn't understand a single thing Morrison did with Scott if this is what you think.
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Sep 15, 2016 03:53
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Pureauthor posted:I'm pretty sure the comic wants you to think that what Gwenpool tried to do is hosed up. Yea, it is super obvious Gwen is meant to be in the wrong here, but she realizes that she's in the wrong. Her final line of "Its not fun anymore" indicates that.
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Codependent Poster posted:So it's pretty clear you didn't understand a single thing Morrison did with Scott if this is what you think. Obviously I'm being sarcastic, but even then Morrison's arc for Scott is one of making him so wrapped up in his own perceived outwardly-facing image of an uptight repressed stick-in-the-rear end Goody McTwoShoes that it ends up killing his intimacy with Jean via self-fulfilling prophecy. I just found it especially humorous that Emma Frost - a woman ostensibly in his corner - made specific note that he thought dirty thoughts about his wife leading to their dead bedroom, like he's some sort of fuckin' Mormon.
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Sep 15, 2016 04:00
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Toxxupation posted:Obviously I'm being sarcastic, but even then Morrison's arc for Scott is one of making him so wrapped up in his own perceived outwardly-facing image of an uptight repressed stick-in-the-rear end Goody McTwoShoes that it ends up killing his intimacy with Jean via self-fulfilling prophecy. I just found it especially humorous that Emma Frost - a woman ostensibly in his corner - made specific note that he thought dirty thoughts about his wife leading to their dead bedroom, like he's some sort of fuckin' Mormon. Wasn't the whole point that Scott and Jean fell apart because they couldn't communicate anymore? Jean was distracted by her metamorphosis into the Phoenix and was forgetting human needs; Scott felt stifled and unable to grow after being trapped on the same role for decades, feeling like he has to do the same thing over and over until that collapsed in on itself. They stopped talking to each other and even true love can't survive a couple that isn't trying anymore. But okay blame it on sex.
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Scott was also still recovering from being merged with Apocalypse for a time.
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Sep 15, 2016 04:35
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It's just a general metaphor for the overall theme throughout Morrison's run, literally exemplified by his very first panel: just because something has always been one way doesn't mean it should always be that way.
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Sep 15, 2016 05:33
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Sentry ended so abruptly I honestly thought Marvel Unlimited didn't have the whole thing up. Still, that comic was a great read. I really enjoyed the meta poo poo in it. Marvel Boy, on the other hand, I thought was kinda just ok. Just didn't do much for me. The nice thing about having not read a whole lot of Marvel stuff is that there's still a bunch on here for me to read for the first time.
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Equilibrium posted:The pitch document makes it clear that he read the major stories, Morrison just loathes continuity like any sane person and he didn't give a poo poo if he pissed off a few fanboys who were overly attached to the shitheap that was 90s X-Men. I mean, look at the name of the book. Morrison like continuity, just some of it. That is why Magento went super hitler because Morrison was pissy about anti hero Mags. He is the ultimate fanboy really.
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Sep 15, 2016 05:56
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Morrison takes old things and then puts them through a different prism. It makes things fascinating.
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Sep 15, 2016 06:57
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Not to mention Magneto was high on Kick, which was part of Sublime's plan.
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Sep 15, 2016 08:08
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Roth posted:Sentry ended so abruptly I honestly thought Marvel Unlimited didn't have the whole thing up. Over 1600 comic series if you exclude Star Wars. 
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Sep 15, 2016 12:26
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Re: Gwen I rather enjoyed Miles' aghast reaction to her typical CD tacticlol realism approach to dealing with ne'er-do-wells. That punch didn't really look all that pulled though, ow. Couldn't he just zap her instead?
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Sentinel Red posted:Re: Gwen Yeah let's add more poo poo on the "things Miles have easily solved by zapping"
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