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CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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I'm the guy who still listens to the UltraViolet soundtrack sometimes.

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ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe

Darko posted:

Braveheart and Legends of the Fall have excellent scores. Horner had a nice little run in the 90s right up until around A Beautiful Mind, where he just gave up and repeated himself over and over completely.

I always felt some of his strongest work was in animated features. His work for Don Bluth in particular was really good.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Have some Chemical Brothers. I really liked this movie and its music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqKnoXXL-yI

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Skoll posted:

Have some Chemical Brothers. I really liked this movie and its music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqKnoXXL-yI

That's a great soundtrack.

I just picked up John Carpenter's Lost Themes II. It's much like the first, in that it's like a greatest hits of 80's movie themes from an alternate dimension.

The season finale of Game of Thrones sounded a lot like Phillip Glass music.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

It's funny listening to music that was clearly inspired by John Carpenter and then being able to fit in his new music right alongside it. I was shuffling my favorites playlist on Spotify last weekend and by chance it went: Mogwai - Remurdered -> John Carpenter - Vortex -> Dance With The Dead - Nightdrive
It was perfect.

And it took me way too long to realize John Carpenter's theme for Assault On Precinct 13 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGME6jCwqw0)
was sampled in Bomb The Bass - Megablast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgjNb-6EOYw)
which was turned into a theme for the game Xenon 2 (which is how I originally knew it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-tiRnac2k

Edit: Added links for the first trio of songs mentioned.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jul 6, 2016

ButtWolf
Dec 30, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Have ya'll checked out the Neon Demon score/soundtrack yet? It's great.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I did, even though it'll probably take another month before I can see the movie on the big screen. I think this was my favorite track after the initial listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDUI2okeVRA

It's all very synthy and ambient at times, which I like.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jul 6, 2016

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

I'm waiting until I see the movie before I check out the soundtrack, I do have high hopes for it as Cliff Martinez is awesome. I frequently listen to his Contagion and The Knick soundtracks. Good stuff.

ButtWolf
Dec 30, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The film is a WEIRD. It's good though. Cliff Martinez hasn't ever made anything bad as far as I'm concerned.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

Mierenneuker posted:

It's funny listening to music that was clearly inspired by John Carpenter and then being able to fit in his new music right alongside it. I was shuffling my favorites playlist on Spotify last weekend and by chance it went: Mogwai - Remurdered -> John Carpenter - Vortex -> Dance With The Dead - Nightdrive
It was perfect.

Speaking of Carpenter, I've been rewatching some of his movies lately and drat, he had a gift for composing relatively simple music forced by necessity (time and money) that ended being great and enhaced the movies. What a guy, hella underrated director. Also, watch his music video for Big Trouble in Little China, super cheesy but I love it.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
I'm convinced that listening to any mix of tracks from The Bourne Identity movies is the perfect way to cope with airports.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Play this song while running towards your gate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylUaZ4QpujA

I really like this song because it references themes from earlier in the movie AND from The Bourne Identity, the most obvious one being "At The Bank". Please score more action movies, John Powell!

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jul 29, 2016

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Nothing they do is ever going to top Treadstone Assassins, but they're welcome to try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYaso7QeXqU

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Jurassic Park theme in minor key. This is absolutely beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prLWMqMjDWY

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

That's a weird one because my brain automatically wants to correct it to the right key. But it did remind me of this bizarre thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9mrvbpx_3E

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

On the topic of Williams, here's an alternate, expanded arrangement of The Jedi Steps from TFA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZFkktFqi4M

I really dig it on the reasoning that it's simply more of the best track of the whole film, and that it sees itself to a slow and satisfying conclusion rather than being preempted by a rushed-sounding rendition of the Force theme (as so happened in the film version).

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I couldn't get into TFA at all. It had maybe two scenes I enjoyed overall. The score itself was boring and I was kind of shocked that JJ Abrams somehow managed to make a John Williams score no fun.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

Regardless of the movie's endlessly debatable quality, I'd definitely rank TFA's score down with AOTC's for the reason that both are fairly mediocre scores boosted up by strong motifs (Rey's Theme and the aftermentioned Jedi Steps for the former, Across the Stars for the latter) and the occasional fun action cue (The Falcon and The Chase Through Coruscant, respectively and among others). Also, both have moments tracked from other films, replacing existing cues to varying effect.

Still, I hope that Williams returns for VIII, or at the very least, whoever replaces him as composer (because let's face it, the dude's getting old) retains the leitmotifs from TFA because that sense of musical continuity is key to that Star Wars feel.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
To me, Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith are tied for best Star Wars scores, with the original Star Wars in a close second place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etMF1HlT4SI

This is flat out one of my favorite composition pieces, period.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Skoll posted:

To me, Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith are tied for best Star Wars scores, with the original Star Wars in a close second place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etMF1HlT4SI

This is flat out one of my favorite composition pieces, period.

This is from a TV show, so I hope it isn't too off topic, but my favorite piece ever is "Service and Sacrifice" from The Legend of Korra, by Jeremy Zuckerman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBv3jrvUobY

:cry:

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Skoll posted:

Jurassic Park theme in minor key. This is absolutely beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prLWMqMjDWY

Huh. I wish the guy had chosen to stick with the leading tone (so the main melody would stay exactly the same as the original). The use of natural minor makes it sound like it's not really going anywhere, kind of church-y especially with the MIDI. It was interesting to listen to though.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Skoll posted:

I couldn't get into TFA at all. It had maybe two scenes I enjoyed overall. The score itself was boring and I was kind of shocked that JJ Abrams somehow managed to make a John Williams score no fun.

His last Indiana Jones score was pretty weak overall. So I don't think it's Abrams fault.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Hawkgirl posted:

Huh. I wish the guy had chosen to stick with the leading tone (so the main melody would stay exactly the same as the original). The use of natural minor makes it sound like it's not really going anywhere, kind of church-y especially with the MIDI. It was interesting to listen to though.

I honestly didn't think of it like that. It does sound pretty church-y though. Think you can throw me an example more of what you mean though?

CelticPredator posted:

His last Indiana Jones score was pretty weak overall. So I don't think it's Abrams fault.

I completely forgot Crystal Skull existed, I don't even have the score for that, but I do for the original three, that should say what I think of that movie by itself.



Score tax :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fve5O6Y7Htc I absolutely loved everything about Drive. Used to listen to the entire soundtrack, songs and score, with my ex.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Skoll posted:

I honestly didn't think of it like that. It does sound pretty church-y though. Think you can throw me an example more of what you mean though?

Yeah, here's some stuff I threw together just to demonstrate. Couple of wrong chords and terrible recording (and guest kitty vocals in one of the tracks). But I think it will show you what I mean.

Here's an approximation of the original theme:

Here's an approximation of the natural minor version you posted:

Here's an approximation of the way I would prefer, in melodic minor with the leading tone (also a Picardy third at the end just to be fun):
CRAP I missed changing a chord in this one. Oh well.

Writing it out did make me realize that my version is still not identical to the original melody, because the 3rd is still flat as it would be in the minor scale.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Hawkgirl posted:

Yeah, here's some stuff I threw together just to demonstrate. Couple of wrong chords and terrible recording (and guest kitty vocals in one of the tracks). But I think it will show you what I mean.

Here's an approximation of the original theme:

Here's an approximation of the natural minor version you posted:

Here's an approximation of the way I would prefer, in melodic minor with the leading tone (also a Picardy third at the end just to be fun):
CRAP I missed changing a chord in this one. Oh well.

Writing it out did make me realize that my version is still not identical to the original melody, because the 3rd is still flat as it would be in the minor scale.

Interdashing. Do you have any more compositions? Sans cat vocals.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I know the movie was mediocre but I really like this track :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3Hu4HlTQs

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Every Frame A Painting made a pretty interesting video about scores (or lack thereof) in the Marvel movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs

And also this with matching presumed temp tracks with the final thing, some of which are hilariously close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfQ_9DIItI

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

When I saw that second video a couple days ago I was instantly reminded of a post I made earlier.

Mierenneuker posted:

Try to spot an inspiration for this piece of music (hint: it's at the end).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLlorcBJC1M

"We need some temp music for a rebirth, an emotional release, a breaking of the chains ... hmm"

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
That's Lord of the Rings, isn't it?

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Mameluke posted:

That's Lord of the Rings, isn't it?

Skip to 2m50s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCtRg5RpTz0

I don't expect everyone to recognize it, but it's tied to an iconic scene from a well-loved movie so you can bet composers and editors know it.

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Sep 15, 2016

Tomtrek
Feb 5, 2006

I've had people walk out on me before, but not when I was being so charming.



Looks like Star Wars: Rogue One has replaced its composer: Alexandre Desplat is out and Michael Giacchino is replacing him.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-rogue-one-replaces-929387

I'm sure Giacchino will do a really good job, but I wonder if he's going to be bringing something that's closer to John Williams' work than Desplat would have.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
Man, that movie is having some problems, huh?

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

Pirate Jet posted:

Man, that movie is having some problems, huh?

Well, the composer change is because of the "problems", not a new one. They did the reshoots, which pushed back the editing timeframe, and thus the scoring timeframe. Desplat already had something else lined up after, and now it would effect that project.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
I'm sure the ongoing shitshow that is Rogue One will make a very entertaining book someday, though I'll be far too long dead to read it.

I really cannot get enough of Giacchino's "Enterprising Young Men," though I am certainly trying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMu5jP2-c5U

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Stare-Out posted:

Every Frame A Painting made a pretty interesting video about scores (or lack thereof) in the Marvel movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs
This is insanely pro-click (skip the first 2 minutes or so).

That Captain America scene is way better without narration.

The temp music trend is sucky but I'm sure it makes things so much easier for the director. And nobody's really expecting you to be creative in that direction, why try? Take your million bucks and spend your creative energies on something else.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Dan Golding did a response video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcXsH88XlKM

I'm not convinced the Star Wars theme is particularly derivative. But he makes some interesting arguments about temp music -- that (a) today filmmakers use temp music from samey movie soundtrack tunes rather than more original non-movie tracks from Holst or Rachmaninov or whatever, and that (b) composition software better simulates brass and percussion so we get more of that instead of woodwinds and strings.

The thesis then is: Marvel's music is forgettable because each film's music differs through "texture" not melody (not sure what this means). His argument is that we might be able to accept this as its kind of originality.

It's a really interesting debate, to say the least.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Alien used Temp music, and the temp music is still in the actual movie and pissed Goldsmith off something fierce. It's not a trend. It's just how things work. You have figure out if the film works, and it's hard to really grasp that without some kind of music behind it. Other wise you're looking at very, very boring footage.

But I don't like this whole series of videos that pop up and I think I figured out why. If you asked me to hum The Avengers theme, I could do it. Why? Because I enjoy listening to film scores. It's something that works for me.

Most people really don't listen to them outside of something really big like Star Wars or Pirates of the Caribbean. No matter what, it will be background noise to them. But they could probably hum a popular song at the moment without an issue. They can hum Can't Stop The Feeling and I can hum the main theme from the new Ghostbusters movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Jsuhzh948&t=104s

Because I care about film music and I love listening to it.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

You're this dude:



Just kidding. But more seriously: He's obviously using a very simplistic test for whether a score is memorable. But most moviegoers know a good soundtrack when they hear one. You probably don't need to remember the melodies at all to know Carol and The Hateful Eight had some cool tunes.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Actually, kidding or not, I KNOW no one would know The Avengers theme and I don't blame them for it. The theme's barely in the movie, and has like almost zero outside exposure.

The biggest issue with Marvel scores isn't really so much they're bland, it's that they don't have a through-line with their music. Captain America has 3-4 themes right now. Iron Man has almost 5. Thor has 2, Hulk has 3? Black Widow has like 2 or so? And they keep changing it.

Repeating the score is all you need. Like I'm sure a decent amount of people can at least hum the new Star Trek theme, right? It's been used for three flicks so far.

CelticPredator fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Sep 16, 2016

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LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


CelticPredator posted:

Actually, kidding or not, I KNOW no one would know The Avengers theme and I don't blame them for it. The theme's barely in the movie, and has like almost zero outside exposure.

The biggest issue with Marvel scores isn't really so much they're bland, it's that they don't have a through-line with their music. Captain America has 3-4 themes right now. Iron Man has almost 5. Thor has 2, Hulk has 3? Black Widow has like 2 or so? And they keep changing it.

Repeating the score is all you need. Like I'm sure a decent amount of people can at least hum the new Star Trek theme, right? It's been used for three flicks so far.

CelticPredator posted:

Actually, kidding or not, I KNOW no one would know The Avengers theme and I don't blame them for it. The theme's barely in the movie, and has like almost zero outside exposure.

The biggest issue with Marvel scores isn't really so much they're bland, it's that they don't have a through-line with their music. Captain America has 3-4 themes right now. Iron Man has almost 5. Thor has 2, Hulk has 3? Black Widow has like 2 or so? And they keep changing it.

Repeating the score is all you need. Like I'm sure a decent amount of people can at least hum the new Star Trek theme, right? It's been used for three flicks so far.

Exactly. Captain America winter soldier finally had a great captain theme... and it never shows up in Avengers 2 or Civil War. I was bummed.

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