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Guys, with Perry getting his dance on, Walker doing whatever the gently caress he's doing, Newt praising the Trump God, Palin knocking herself out on rocks or some poo poo, and the rest doing their thing, I have to ask -- what the hell is Jindal doing nowadays?
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FactsAreUseless posted:There will be no lasting consequences to the case. Any political embarrassment Walker suffers will not lead to real systemic change. I know, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IffPAJC9G9Q
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Guys, with Perry getting his dance on, Walker doing whatever the gently caress he's doing, Newt praising the Trump God, Palin knocking herself out on rocks or some poo poo, and the rest doing their thing, I have to ask -- what the hell is Jindal doing nowadays? Hopefully loving a cactus full of wasps.
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Trabisnikof posted:Oh goody, let me the first to say: It's not the hack that I'm interested in, it's the dirt. I mean, if Woodward and Bernstein had used hacker tools to uncover the Watergate scandal I would have said they broke laws but still did the right thing.
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McDowell posted:I know, right? hell yeah, fav band right here, unsure how to feel about us having similar music tastes tho...
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Riosan posted:Sen. Kaine stops by University of Minnesota today, somehow gets hipster dad cred by name dropping The Replacements. 
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FactsAreUseless posted:It wouldn't matter either way. The Trump Foundation Newsweek and Washington Post stories didn't turn out to matter. The NY attorney general investigation won't matter. The Trump U lawsuit won't matter. Clinton will win or lose narrowly in a tight race, the news will go "oh gosh what a race" and there will be a couple blog posts where people "put the media on trial" and then nothing will happen and it'll be 2017. ...the Trump foundation story has caused a formal investigation. that's not over yet.
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I have a girl (she's 30, so a woman really) on my Facebook who is self-diagnosed Aspergers and posts constantly about Autism Speaks as a genocidal organization that is targeting her and others like her. She constantly posts about meetups her group does and how they protest Autism Speaks events with signs and chants. She posts long essays about how offensive it is that people want to "cure" her and exterminate "non-neurotypicals" and that autistic people provide a unique and valuable point of view in the world. I've never heard anyone talk about Autism Speaks outside of her until just now in this thread. So, was she right all along?
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Guys, with Perry getting his dance on, Walker doing whatever the gently caress he's doing, Newt praising the Trump God, Palin knocking herself out on rocks or some poo poo, and the rest doing their thing, I have to ask -- what the hell is Jindal doing nowadays? white washing himself.
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In which canadian judges are just as loving stupid as their US judicial brethren:quote:[ A judge who asked accusatory questions to a rape victim during a trial is now facing a disciplinary hearing, the Canadian Press reported. The Canadian Judicial Council will conduct an inquiry to determine whether or not Judge Robin Camp should remain on the bench after making comments that he has since acknowledged were insensitive. New canadian PSAs about rape -- stick your rear end in a toilet bowl, you tart also mandatory lesbian posted:nobody deserves to live, life is meaningless in the face of the eventual heat death of the universe
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I've been thinking and I'm having trouble understanding why the race is so close in Florida. Ohio I can understand because I can believe that it may be one of the few states that is demographically changing in a way that is not advantageous to Democrats. More poorly educated white people. But Florida is filling up with an increased amount of Hispanic and Black voters. I know there are the conservative Cubans and white retirees throwing off the numbers but it's still a bit strange to me. What was the voting breakdown for Florida in 2012 because I can't see how it would be less favorable to Clinton than it was for Obama since she's doing even better than he was with minorities. I'm kind of down because I'm slowly coming to the realization that this won't be the embarrassing blowout that I was expecting this summer. I mean, barring some epic Trump meltdown during the debates. The nation is just too polarized. So I'm thinking of a map where Clinton losses Ohio but wins NC and Florida and ends up with 320ish EVs. Which I would take any day.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I have a girl (she's 30, so a woman really) on my Facebook who is self-diagnosed Aspergers and posts constantly about Autism Speaks as a genocidal organization that is targeting her and others like her. She constantly posts about meetups her group does and how they protest Autism Speaks events with signs and chants. She posts long essays about how offensive it is that people want to "cure" her and exterminate "non-neurotypicals" and that autistic people provide a unique and valuable point of view in the world. Here's a good example of the sort of positive work Autism Speaks does: https://www.autismspeaks.org/advocacy/advocacy-news/faqs-south-carolina-autism-insurance-reform-law-ryans-law I can't comment about anything they might be doing with people who have the diagnosis formerly known as asperger's. They probably were involved in the push to get "Asperger's" included under the "autism" umbrella, but there were good policy reasons behind that: insurance companies and providers would frequently classify significantly disabled kids as having "asperger's" rather than "autism" because insurance would cover costs of treatment for "autism" but not for "aspergers", so the "Asperger's" diagnosis turned into a way to justify denials of needed care. Mostly it's all fight over whether or not to cover ABA therapy. ABA therapy costs about fifty grand a year (you essentially need to hire a full time therapist) but, like, actually works, and can save hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions in health care costs over the course of a lifetime; it can mean the difference between institutionalization and living independently in the community, and in some cases can even "cure" autism spectrum disorder in the sense that individuals stop exhibiting symptoms. I don't know what Autism Speaks might be doing in terms of, like, television advertising or whatever it is that's offending your friend, but I do know they've been a big factor in getting expanded health care coverage for a lot of kids who really needed it. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Here's a good example of the sort of positive work Autism Speaks does: Yeah, I don't doubt they do good work. I just have no idea what would cause people with Aspergers or who are autistic to have such a weird hatred for another autism group. I thought she was just a lone crazy, but then she had a group do meetups and protest, so I figured she had a small local group of crazies. I've never heard anything about this group outside of her until people in this thread started repeating her weird claims about autism genocide.
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I mean, we absolutely SHOULD be trying to cure autism, shouldn't we? I think recently there have been some promising results on animal testing. If there's some kind of intervention therapy that can give people normal social functionality if done early enough, it should absolutely be pursued.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So I'm thinking of a map where Clinton losses Ohio but wins NC and Florida and ends up with 320ish EVs. Which I would take any day.
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DemeaninDemon posted:It's now put up or shut up. C-SPAM's toxx thread is waiting for you. Embrace it you gently caress. Did I miss something in the thread rules about you have to Toxx in order to argue a side here? Shimrra Jamaane posted:I really don't understand why people get mad at Clinton for being, in their words, a bad candidate and blame that for why the election is so close. You should be blaming the retards who look at her and go "I think I'll vote for the literal fascist" I don't think you understand the definition of either literal or fascist. patonthebach fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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So Hillary is dipping in the polls because she has pneumonia?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, I don't doubt they do good work. I just have no idea what would cause people with Aspergers or who are autistic to have such a weird hatred for another autism group. I thought she was just a lone crazy, but then she had a group do meetups and protest, so I figured she had a small local group of crazies. I've never heard anything about this group outside of her until people in this thread started repeating her weird claims about autism genocide. From what I can tell with a quick google it seems to be mostly that AS is 1) primarily a parent's and family member's group, 2) focused primarily on the sharp, harsh end of the autism spectrum. The "genocide" claims seem to be because AS spends a lot of research money on trying to find a "cure" for autism, which is exactly what a lot of parents would literally kill for but is seen by some people on the lighter end of the spectrum as equivalent to trying to find a cure for homosexuality. As others have pointed out above, this is basically because there's a *really* wide range of diagnoses, ranging from people who aren't too different from anyone else on this forum, to people who are nonverbal and try to gouge their own eyes out on a regular basis. I can understand why some people with relatively mild diagnoses would get pissed off by being told they needed a "cure," but I'd also remind those people of the folks on the other end of the spectrum. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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patonthebach posted:Did I miss something in the thread rules about you have to Toxx in order to argue a side here? If you wanna roll deep you do
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Noam Chomsky posted:So Hillary is dipping in the polls because she has pneumonia? No, probably because she was collapsing to the ground and looked gravely on 9/11, being dragged into a van by secret service agents. And not being more forthcoming about her medical issues. If a week ago she just said it was an issue and took adequate measures to only do 15 minutes outside instead of an hour, it wouldn't have been as big of a deal.
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greatn posted:I mean, we absolutely SHOULD be trying to cure autism, shouldn't we? I think recently there have been some promising results on animal testing. If there's some kind of intervention therapy that can give people normal social functionality if done early enough, it should absolutely be pursued. When it comes to basically non-functional people who need round-the-clock care either with their parents or in an institution, yeah. But the Autism diagnosis scales all the way down to a lot of people who are largely high-functioning (can get jobs and maybe even live alone) but have deficits in some areas like social skills or executive functions or whatever. So people on that end of the Spectrum who are coping with life see a cure as basically an enforced personality change, and thus object.
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Crows Turn Off posted:538 has her max EVs at 297 right now, and that's giving her Florida (where she's currently losing in the polls). If things continued into Election Day as they are today, she'd get 279 EVs. Barely winning means Democrats don't win the Senate. I can't wait for the documentary about the DNC and the Hilary campaign's secret strategy to barely win and not take the Senate.
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Noam Chomsky posted:So Hillary is dipping in the polls because she has pneumonia?
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Yard sign anecdote time: I live in a generally red district of a blue state (US Rep and state Rep have been (R) for a long time). I've seen virtually zero Hillary yard signs but tons of signs for the downticket Democrats. On the other hand, I've seen a number of Trump signs but almost none for any other Republicans. I have no idea what this means.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, I don't doubt they do good work. I just have no idea what would cause people with Aspergers or who are autistic to have such a weird hatred for another autism group. I thought she was just a lone crazy, but then she had a group do meetups and protest, so I figured she had a small local group of crazies. I've never heard anything about this group outside of her until people in this thread started repeating her weird claims about autism genocide. Autism Speaks wants a "cure" for autism, and when they say that they mean they want it so that there aren't people who have very severe autism anymore, the sort where they can't communicate, and often many other issues going on. People who are just barely on the autism spectrum hear about curing autism, think it refers to them, and think it would completely change them to be slightly better at reading social cues or whatever other minor issues they have. Though I think those people are also quite a bit selfish because there's people only as bad off as they are who don't like being that way and would appreciate the ability to change. The reality is that any "cure" is aiming to move people from the first, very crippled, group to being in the latter group of people who have very minor issues - and really issues that are no worse than other people we call "normal" have. And more likely it's going to move the very crippled type to somewhere inbetween the two groups, possibly including things like being able to live more independently. (Plus again: scientists believe there isn't just one "autism" thing going on, but multiple different things that present outwardly similar results. So a "cure" is probably only going to function on a subset of any of them).
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Jackson Taus posted:When it comes to basically non-functional people who need round-the-clock care either with their parents or in an institution, yeah. But the Autism diagnosis scales all the way down to a lot of people who are largely high-functioning (can get jobs and maybe even live alone) but have deficits in some areas like social skills or executive functions or whatever. So people on that end of the Spectrum who are coping with life see a cure as basically an enforced personality change, and thus object. Why would it be enforced? If they're competent to live on their own, then wouldn't they not be forced to take the cure? Are the people opposed to Autism Speaks imagining Gestapo agents breaking into model train stores and spraying everyone there with a mutagen gas that turns them into football fans?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I've been thinking and I'm having trouble understanding why the race is so close in Florida. Ohio I can understand because I can believe that it may be one of the few states that is demographically changing in a way that is not advantageous to Democrats. More poorly educated white people. But Florida is filling up with an increased amount of Hispanic and Black voters. I know there are the conservative Cubans and white retirees throwing off the numbers but it's still a bit strange to me. What was the voting breakdown for Florida in 2012 because I can't see how it would be less favorable to Clinton than it was for Obama since she's doing even better than he was with minorities. Voter suppression by the GOP and these polls tending to disregard younger voters. Florida is also incredibly swingy depending on where exactly you are - Florida has red parts and blue parts and rarely do they overlap much so polls can be unreliable.
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patonthebach posted:Did I miss something in the thread rules about you have to Toxx in order to argue a side here? Not sure how often you post/read this thread but CelestialScribe only posts to whine about how Trump's totally gonna win it this time guys. Like that's all this person does. Edit: I just looked at their last 10 pages of posts (it's not much but whatever) and all but 3 were in USPol and 1 of those was CSPAM. Islam is the Lite Rock FM fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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FuturePastNow posted:I have no idea what this means. Nothing. Because nothing matters.
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Crows Turn Off posted:She's been losing support for a number of weeks now, it's not a sudden change. Over the course of a month, she's gone from a high-mark to nearing her low mark. As others have mentioned, that doesn't mean Trump is gaining support, his numbers don't move all too much. The recent health thing will probably make it dip further. Part of the problem was the endless string of hit pieces on her where they went "WELL, IT LOOKS IMPROPER AND ILLEGAL BUT NOTHING WRONG HAPPENED BUT WE WON'T TALK ABOUT NOTHING WRONG HAPPENING UNTIL THE VERY END  ".Trump also stopped completely making GBS threads the bed, but none of his gaffes got anywhere in the news, instead most places taking a "TRUTH IS IN THE MIDDLE" stance.
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patonthebach posted:No, probably because she was collapsing to the ground and looked gravely on 9/11, being dragged into a van by secret service agents. And not being more forthcoming about her medical issues. Maybe we deserve TRUMP. Can't wait to become a Trumpling.
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Cthulhumatic posted:I hope Hillary just disembowels Trump during the debate. Literally. I dunno man. I think she'd probably come off as "shrill" if she did that
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Cthulhumatic posted:I hope Hillary just disembowels Trump during the debate. Literally. i wouldnt get your hopes up
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