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Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Phone posted:

A goon podcast recently went into "South Park is bad and lazy" and they harped on their insistence that caring about something is the worst possible position to ever have.

They do good work when they aren't intellectually and creatively lazy; I've heard great things about Book of Mormon. But, South Park writ large is creatively lazy and intellectually bankrupt.

what the heck is wrong with your brain that you're listening to a Goon Podcast

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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I sometimes read articles written by goons, too. For example: https://www.theguardian.com/profile/jeb-lund

But yes, I'm broken in the head because I listen to a podcast made by goons about bad video games who do an annual donation drive to a transgender charity.

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
I haven't watched SP in ages, but got to play that RPG of theirs some months ago and had a lot of fun. :shrug:

It had some bad jokes, but I got to be a level 20 Jew so whatev's.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
It's odd to think how long South Park has been around. I remember asking a friend to record the first episode on his VCR for me since I didn't have cable...about two years later I bought a Dreamcast.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

It's odd to think how long South Park has been around. I remember asking a friend to record the first episode on his VCR for me since I didn't have cable...about two years later I bought a Dreamcast.

It will, in all likelihood, last for more seasons than the Simpsons will.

Which, when they break that record, would put Trey Parker & Matt Stone in their late 50s to early 60s.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
making GBS threads all over Chef and Scientology in increasingly hilarious ways was a high point in South Park history for me.


That was in season nine though. Still love a lot of the early stuff but it's kinda taken on the Simpsons effect to me.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Elephant Ambush posted:

...

Are you that dense?

Also lol at everyone clinging to the time travel part of that one guy's lovely joke like a life raft while intentionally ignoring the thousands of unironic calls for violence and murder and torture by "leftists" on this forum over the past decade.

:laugh:



I can't believe people are unironically calling for the death of that poor corgi.

(I think specifically mentioning a guillotine makes it clear that it's not a literal call for violence, but a parody of revolutionary excess. If someone said "lynch Parker and Stone," I would probably think the joke was a lot worse.)

Jurgan fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Sep 14, 2016

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

It's odd to think how long South Park has been around. I remember asking a friend to record the first episode on his VCR for me since I didn't have cable...about two years later I bought a Dreamcast.

Its very nuts that I remember going crazy with my high school friends over the first episodes and now I'm an old fart and its still around. Like, I don't watch it because I assume I've grown past it but I guess high school kids are still freaking out over it? Its nuts.

Simpsons seems different. Simpsons is this weird cultural thing like SNL or Family Feud or the Tonight Show. People just seem to treat it like its always been there and always will be. South Park is the weird cartoon where the fat kid does really hosed up poo poo.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

STAC Goat posted:

Its very nuts that I remember going crazy with my high school friends over the first episodes and now I'm an old fart and its still around. Like, I don't watch it because I assume I've grown past it but I guess high school kids are still freaking out over it? Its nuts.

Simpsons seems different. Simpsons is this weird cultural thing like SNL or Family Feud or the Tonight Show. People just seem to treat it like its always been there and always will be. South Park is the weird cartoon where the fat kid does really hosed up poo poo.

most likely south park's audience has aged along with the show - when it first came out it was more often shock humor than discussion of current events, so it was more appealing to kids. i was also in high school when it came out and watching tv was still something most teens did, because the internet was just catching on beyond turbonerds. and this is back when cable was only 40-50 channels or so, so if you wanted subversive humor comedy central was one of your few if not only choices

nowadays teens have the entire internet so i doubt there's a lot of them tuning in to watch a twenty year old cartoon on a thirty year old channel that deals with current events, which most teens don't really care about compared to the high drama of their own lives. imo the people who watch south park now are largely the same people who have been watching it for years

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

WampaLord posted:

And a perpetual hatred of anyone who actually cares about an issue. Don't you know the proper response is to be ironically detached from everything?

Yea this is my biggest problem with it these days. They still have that lovely 'heh we hate republicans but we hate democrats more' libertarian nonsense but apparently for them the absolute worst thing you can do is genuinely care about a thing.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Yea this is my biggest problem with it these days. They still have that lovely 'heh we hate republicans but we hate democrats more' libertarian nonsense but apparently for them the absolute worst thing you can do is genuinely care about a thing.

Try being a democrat in Florida and saying you genuinely care about the environment as an important political issue. The Florida Democratic Party is a farce. :suicide:

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Re: South Park... I think it is really intellectually dishonest to take two sides of an argument, replace them with reduced-to-absurdity strawmen, and claim "the truth is in the middle." Of course the truth is in the middle when you deliberately mischaracterize both sides of issue.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Cythereal posted:

Try being a democrat in Florida and saying you genuinely care about the environment as an important political issue. The Florida Democratic Party is a farce. :suicide:

Even climate change? That seems like an issue that would hit Florida pretty hard.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Instant Sunrise posted:

Even climate change? That seems like an issue that would hit Florida pretty hard.

Reminder: the state government forbade using the terms "climate change" and "global warming" in government documents and communications. Tallahassee sure as gently caress won't deal with the cause of the green slime inundating a lot of our popular tourist beaches (caused by agricultural run-off), much less hurricane preparedness, the dying Everglades, or how Miami is completely and utterly hosed.

Florida may be a purple state in presidential elections, even swinging more blue than red as time goes on, but our state-level political apparati for both parties but the Democrats especially are giant shitshows.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
RE: Florida
I've been dismayed by the way, for example, Miami apparentky floods during high tides just because of sea level rise. I mean, it's a consequence of climate change that you can see regularly.
Or by Rick Scott cutting mosquito-prevention measures with zika blooming in your state. Hell, just about any naked greedy policies by Rick Scott.

Then I remember I live in NC and weep.

eNeMeE
Nov 26, 2012
Someone took my "this will never happen, like time machines" idea seriously! I'm so proud and touched.

"Florida man" runs Florida. They're so hosed.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

eNeMeE posted:

Someone took my "this will never happen, like time machines" idea seriously! I'm so proud and touched.

That response makes you officially worse than that guy and he's hopefully dead by now. Let that sink in.

eNeMeE
Nov 26, 2012

TildeATH posted:

That response makes you officially worse than that guy and he's hopefully dead by now. Let that sink in.

I know I'm the worst - I'm proud of that, too*. Anyone can manage it but only I do!


*offer only valid while e/n hasn't been updated.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
So Hannity was going on about how the national polls show Trump up by 5 points, as well as him being ahead 5 points in Ohio. Is this for real or is it Hannity's standard "Take the one poll with the results I like and claim it as representative of all polls"?

He also attacked Hillary as an "elitist" and was like "Do you think she's ever worked a regular job before? She's never washed dishes or waited tables or bartended. She doesn't know what it's like." And the very first thing I thought was "And you think Trump has done those things you goddamn idiot?"

Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?

Twelve by Pies posted:

So Hannity was going on about how the national polls show Trump up by 5 points, as well as him being ahead 5 points in Ohio. Is this for real or is it Hannity's standard "Take the one poll with the results I like and claim it as representative of all polls"?

He also attacked Hillary as an "elitist" and was like "Do you think she's ever worked a regular job before? She's never washed dishes or waited tables or bartended. She doesn't know what it's like." And the very first thing I thought was "And you think Trump has done those things you goddamn idiot?"

Trump's up in Ohio and Florida, but still down by about 5 nationally. Not time to panic, but poo poo did just get real.

Hannity is the dumbest right wing tool out there. I can't decide whether to be thrilled or angry that his Trump fluffing will make him a leader in whatever rear end in a top hat movement happens after Trump.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Instant Sunrise posted:

Even climate change? That seems like an issue that would hit Florida pretty hard.

You mean nuisance flooding?

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
This should go in the OP.

that prarie show guy posted:

Extremism has poked its head into the mainstream, aided by the Internet. Back in the day, you occasionally saw cranks on a street corner handing out mimeographed handbills arguing that FDR was responsible for Pearl Harbor, but you saw their bad haircuts, the bitterness in their eyes, and you turned away. Now they’re in your computer, whispering that the economy is on the verge of collapse and for a few bucks they’ll tell you how to protect your savings.

Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

Twelve by Pies posted:

So Hannity was going on about how the national polls show Trump up by 5 points, as well as him being ahead 5 points in Ohio. Is this for real or is it Hannity's standard "Take the one poll with the results I like and claim it as representative of all polls"?

He also attacked Hillary as an "elitist" and was like "Do you think she's ever worked a regular job before? She's never washed dishes or waited tables or bartended. She doesn't know what it's like." And the very first thing I thought was "And you think Trump has done those things you goddamn idiot?"

Didn't Jon Stewart go on Colbert's late show to do this whole long thing about how Hannity is one of the most talented mental gymnasts on Fox? I don't watch Fox because I don't have that kind of blood pressure, but it sounded like Hannity is either a special kind of idiot or a blatant hypocrite. He even used that same "elitism" line of attack on Obama.

Armani
Jun 22, 2008

Now it's been 17 summers since I've seen my mother

But every night I see her smile inside my dreams

Zanzibar Ham posted:

I haven't watched SP in ages, but got to play that RPG of theirs some months ago and had a lot of fun. :shrug:

It had some bad jokes, but I got to be a level 20 Jew so whatev's.

Huh, this reminded me of something with the South Park chat: I watched E3 this year and they had Matt and Trey advertising out the sequel, Fractured But Whole.

The Pulse shooting in Orlando happened, and a ton of ribbons were passed out for people to wear at the convention. They were among the few not wearing Orlando ribbons.

I'm not usually even into showing solidarity with trinkets as I am horribly cynical but that stood out to me in a very, 'of course you guys would' way.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Their hot takes on politics are always terrible because they believe that believing in nothing is the same thing as having a valid opinion. I deal with these people from time to time, they're called "independents" and they know gently caress-all about anything and think they're the most important people in the world

Not everything they do is bad, but I haven't watched any for a few years and don't feel like I'm missing out on much

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Sarcastr0 posted:

Trump's up in Ohio and Florida, but still down by about 5 nationally. Not time to panic, but poo poo did just get real.

This is why I was never comfortable talking about "when Hillary wins" and acting as if there was no way Trump could take it.

Ragnar34 posted:

it sounded like Hannity is either a special kind of idiot or a blatant hypocrite.

Why is this an either/or statement?

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j56IiLqZ9U

Something we can all agree on?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Twelve by Pies posted:

This is why I was never comfortable talking about "when Hillary wins" and acting as if there was no way Trump could take it.

I know that watching this blatantly racist, proudly ignorant obvious con man criminal manage to ride a wave of increasingly accepted white supremacy this close to the presidency while even supposedly sane media kept excusing him was more than enough to make me lose what little faith I still had with the country's institutions.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



SumYungGui posted:

making GBS threads all over Chef and Scientology in increasingly hilarious ways was a high point in South Park history for me.

That was in season nine though. Still love a lot of the early stuff but it's kinda taken on the Simpsons effect to me.

The Scientology episode was pretty much the best South Park episode for so many reasons. Especially for the fact that Scientology is so batshit insane that they had to print "THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE" on the bottom of the screen constantly.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Alkydere posted:

The Scientology episode was pretty much the best South Park episode for so many reasons. Especially for the fact that Scientology is so batshit insane that they had to print "THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE" on the bottom of the screen constantly.

Which was also fun because Scientology did their usual poo poo of trying to dig up dirt on Matt and Trey and even tried to plant a mole in their company but basically fell flat on their faces

ZDar Fan
Oct 15, 2012

The alt-right has started its own Twitter knockoff called Gab.

quote:

Gab is less than a month old, so it may well flame out like Peach or Ello. But for now, the platform looks like an artifact from a dystopian universe where the alt-right completely took over Twitter. Gab has over 42,000 people on its waitlist, more than 11,000 active members, and among them are nearly all the alt-right’s online kingpins, including the Internet’s self-styled super-villain, Breitbart writer Milo Yiannopoulos himself, who was recently banned for life from Twitter. And Gab’s appeal for that crowd is obvious. The only posting guidelines are no illegal porn, no threats of violence, no terrorism, and no doxing. Oh, and a fifth commandment that literally says “try to be nice.” Everything else is fair game. Notably absent? Any explicit stipulations against hate speech.

Dirt
May 26, 2003


If they ever drop the wait list, I hope someone makes a thread about it GBS.

The Reagan Book (conservative Facebook knockoff) thread was amazing and basically lead to the site shutting down. I doubt it ever had any real substantial user base though, it was 99% goons when I checked it out.

Dirt fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Sep 15, 2016

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Well would you look at that, the deplorables went and built themselves their own little basket with blackjack and hookers. Now that's called showing initiative, I'll you what :allears:

Also yeah my first thought was "when does the inevitable concept-destroying Conservapedia/Reaganbook-style goon rush begin?"

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

They made their own safe space?

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Dirt posted:

If they ever drop the wait list, I hope someone makes a thread about it GBS.

The Reagan Book (conservative Facebook knockoff) thread was amazing and basically lead to the site shutting down. I doubt it ever had any real substantial user base though, it was 99% goons when I checked it out.

Wouldn't work if it really does turn into an alt right haven. They thrive on negative attention. Reagan book trolling was only as effective as it was because they took themselves so seriously.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

nine-gear crow posted:

Well would you look at that, the deplorables went and built themselves their own little basket with blackjack and hookers. Now that's called showing initiative, I'll you what :allears:

Also yeah my first thought was "when does the inevitable concept-destroying Conservapedia/Reaganbook-style goon rush begin?"

Make the thread and they will come.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Rick_Hunter posted:

They made their own safe space?

They tried to take their ball and go home when everybody else reminded them that the ball was never theirs in the first place.

It's hilarious that they put in "try to be nice" as a suggestion when their movement's entire shtick is "being a hateful rapist is OK."

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
I hope some sort of crowd funding/butt coins are involved.

Terrible people should always lose their money. Even fake butt money.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



PhazonLink posted:

I hope some sort of crowd funding/butt coins are involved.

Terrible people should always lose their money. Even fake butt money.

If bitcoins are involved, money-loss is guaranteed. Bitcoins seem designed to be lost.

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Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

Good Citizen posted:

Wouldn't work if it really does turn into an alt right haven. They thrive on negative attention. Reagan book trolling was only as effective as it was because they took themselves so seriously.
Challenge accepted.

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