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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

mlmp08 posted:

This pales in comparison but was in related videos. Two and a half minutes of kind of mild disinterest, and then a payoff that had me laughing my rear end off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilHOFuq5Vfc

How many P-51 vs Zero fights could there even possibly have been? And I'd be all sorts of surprised if that was ever the outcome.

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I don't think P-51s actually encountered Zeros (meaning actual A6Ms). At the end of the war they were flying escort for B-29s, but the Japanese pilot corps was utterly shredded already and the carrier-based and island-deployed A6Ms were underwater. Ki-84s were "common" and very capable if the pilot had the slightest idea what he was doing...not as fast/powerful as a P-51 but they could outturn one.

If P-51s and A6M did actually meet, it was a rarity.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
They kept building Zeroes until the very end, though, they were part of like the last fighter mission the Imperial Japanese Navy flew in the whole war.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Dead Reckoning posted:

Have fun getting investigated by the DoE. Homebrew nuclear weapons research is something I'd stay well away from.

They would have jurisdictional issues, I believe, but probably little reason to investigate anyone without the resources of at least a third rate juche dictatorship/a few suitable nuclear reactors to hand. Without fissionable material you aren't getting anywhere, and it's why detailed plans of the initial fission weapons put together by dudes like atomic john exist. No large publishers wish to sell his book, but it is available for sale, and contains near enough perfect plans for your own nuclear weapon. The british government had most of the plans for the first "operational" fission bomb sat in the open archives for a few years- the cat is firmly out of the bag, and has been for some time. We aren't all dead yet because refining nuclear material to weapons grade is costly and very hard to do secretly. Oh, and luck.


MrChips posted:

other ways you can deal with that lovely Canadian pop-punk band

yeah, but sometimes you gotta be sure about things, and from a garage over the road has less uncertainties than from orbit

winnydpu
May 3, 2007
Sugartime Jones

Godholio posted:

If P-51s and A6M did actually meet, it was a rarity.

One of the first deployments of the Mustang was to the China-Burma theater. The awesomely named Air Commando Groups used A/B models, and I think even the A-36 (dive bomber version never actually used as a dive bomber). I think they had several encounters with early A6Ms,

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%AA%9C%E8%88%87%E5%B9%B3

This guy shot down one of the early Mustangs in a Ki-43, then got shot down by one the next day or so and lost his leg. He later flew a captured p51 against other pilots to help in training.

http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/articles/Japan/Japanese%20Captured%20P-51%20Mustang.htm

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Haven't seen this posted:

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/game-changer-combining-lockheed-martins-f-35-aegis-missle-17695

quote:

The United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps have successfully tested the Lockheed Martin F-35B Joint Strike Fighter with the Naval Integrated Fire Control—Counter Air (NIFC-CA) battle network.

Integrating the stealthy new fighter into the NIFC-CA network will allow the jet to provide over-the-horizon targeting for Aegis cruisers and destroyers to defeat incoming threats. Moreover, the F-35 will be able to provide targeting data to the rest of the fleet from inside a zone defended by advanced Russian or Chinese air defense systems such as the S-400 or HQ-9.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

StandardVC10 posted:

They kept building Zeroes until the very end, though, they were part of like the last fighter mission the Imperial Japanese Navy flew in the whole war.

Sure, but they were also building Ki-43s and Ki-84s each in equal numbers. And the 84s were the only ones really effective at B-29 altitudes.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Godholio posted:

Sure, but they were also building Ki-43s and Ki-84s each in equal numbers. And the 84s were the only ones really effective at B-29 altitudes.

How you gonna skip over the whale-bodied beast, the N1K? Much lower numbers, though.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
And let's not forget the Ki-61 that gained much glory by repeatedly ramming Superforts.

So, let's say you get assigned to a "ram the B-29" unit. And you go and you actually successfully ram a B-29. And you miraculously survive. Your reward is...to get sent right back up to ram another B-29.

:confuoot:

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

bewbies posted:

And let's not forget the Ki-61 that gained much glory by repeatedly ramming Superforts.

So, let's say you get assigned to a "ram the B-29" unit. And you go and you actually successfully ram a B-29. And you miraculously survive. Your reward is...to get sent right back up to ram another B-29.

:confuoot:

Well, it's certainly one way to take your mind off of starving.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


War thunder is getting weird.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



hobbesmaster posted:

War thunder is getting weird.

that was my second thought, right after "The Koreans made a BF1942 movie?"

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Godholio posted:

Sure, but they were also building Ki-43s and Ki-84s each in equal numbers. And the 84s were the only ones really effective at B-29 altitudes.

Reaching B-29 altitudes was a major problem for most of the Japanese fighters, yeah. If you look at the experimental designs they were trying to bring into production at the end of the war it's all three-stage superchargers and turbos. (And an imported Me-163 clone, which Japan's surviving pilots were lucky to have avoided.)

They were also running out of aluminum, so they worked on versions of the Ki-84 in wood (apparently pretty successful in flight tests) and steel (not so much.)

StandardVC10 fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Sep 15, 2016

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Once you're putting late war Japanese pilots in a domestic me163 you really need to just make a manned SAM and get it over with.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Cyrano4747 posted:

Once you're putting late war Japanese pilots in a domestic me163 you really need to just make a manned SAM and get it over with.

Instead of the Wasserfall, make a variant called the Wassermann. Genius.

Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED


Cyrano4747 posted:

Once you're putting late war Japanese pilots in a domestic me163 you really need to just make a manned SAM and get it over with.

They were already doing manned torpedoes, wouldn't have been much of a stretch.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
That’s air‐to‐surface.

Artist’s conception:

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
fair point

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.

Platystemon posted:

That’s air‐to‐surface.

Artist’s conception:



Is that the same artist George Lucas later hired to design the X-Wing?

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Platystemon posted:

That’s air‐to‐surface.

Artist’s conception:



That's a rather grimdark origin for Speed Racer.

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete

Nebakenezzer posted:

Different question: what is left when it comes to "additional sanctions" against North Korea? Closing down all those overseas restaurants they have?

Yes.

"The United States and South Korea had already started quietly trying to persuade host countries to stop allowing in North Korean guest workers, according to people who work in both governments. That drive is likely to accelerate now that North Korea has shown that new sanctions imposed this year have failed to dissuade it from pursuing nuclear weapons."

Concordat fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Sep 16, 2016

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
So that ground collision thing . Does it automatically fire anytime the plane reaches a certain set of parameters? Like what if you're in an intense killer dogfight and your diving to avoid a missile or kill the bad guy or something and you know what you're doing ? Does it have some sort of dead stick parameter built-in or will it always pull up when it thinks it needs to

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

bewbies posted:

So that ground collision thing . Does it automatically fire anytime the plane reaches a certain set of parameters? Like what if you're in an intense killer dogfight and your diving to avoid a missile or kill the bad guy or something and you know what you're doing ? Does it have some sort of dead stick parameter built-in or will it always pull up when it thinks it needs to

Based on reports from the near-release version, it does, but you really have to deliberately decide to override it by either hitting a paddle on the stick or deliberately using 19 pounds of force. At first any input was an override, but they found humans so slow compared to the computer that they were going hundreds of feet through the pre-set floor even with alert pilots at the stick.

The floor can be set based on mission set. So a trainee practicing BFM at 20,000 feet won't have the same floor as low-flying strike fighters.

More details here: http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article8.html

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Setting that up in a way that is safe and doesn't keep the fighter from fightering sounds like a really cool design challenge.

Also :lol:

quote:

When the flight path is pointed above threatening terrain, the Auto-GCAS disengages and announces, "You got it!"

"Try not to gently caress up again, big boy!"

e:

quote:

Even test pilots met their match when flying this test point during the development effort. None of the program's pilots would go lower than a 100-ft. MDA.

:stonklol:

aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Sep 16, 2016

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

aphid_licker posted:

Setting that up in a way that is safe and doesn't keep the fighter from fightering sounds like a really cool design challenge.

Also :lol:


"Try not to gently caress up again, big boy!"

Lawndarts gonna dart

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
The description of little corrective bumps when doing 200 foot or 50 foot MDA profiles is cool as hell. Pretty sick that it will keep you from bird-striking a nest in a pine tree without popping you up into the air for enemy fighters and air defense systems to see.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Oh ye of little faith.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Godholio posted:

Oh ye of little faith.

Anyone else hear this in HAL's voice?

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Godholio posted:

Oh ye of little faith.

Possibly one of my favorite YouTube videos of all time

http://youtu.be/lW5Dxizy4ZE

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

aphid_licker posted:

"Try not to gently caress up again, big boy!"

"Uplifting Ursula," the "Bitchin' Betty" for millennials.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.
Remember those "combat ready" F-35s they rolled out a few weeks back? They're grounded: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ling-insulation

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Doctor Grape Ape posted:

Remember those "combat ready" F-35s they rolled out a few weeks back? They're grounded: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ling-insulation

Seems obnoxious, but not that big of a deal, honestly:

quote:

According to the Norwegian MoD the issue has been traced back to cooling lines manufactured by one particular provider that have only been installed in the wing fuel tanks of 15 aircraft – 13 US and 2 Norwegian. However, an additional 42 aircraft currently on the production line have received parts from the same provider (including the three Norwegian aircraft scheduled for delivery early next year).

“We have been very pleased with our aircraft so far, both in terms of performance and technical capabilities” says the release that goes ahead with more information about the problem: “This is not a design flaw, but is instead caused by a supplier using improper materials and improper sealing techniques for these specific parts.”

Parts suppliers are sometimes lovely.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.

mlmp08 posted:

Seems obnoxious, but not that big of a deal, honestly:


Parts suppliers are sometimes lovely.

Oh yeah, I'll agree, it's more of a PR mess/another embarrassment than anything. If it had happened to any other project that wasn't the F-35 it'd be a non-event.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

mlmp08 posted:

Seems obnoxious, but not that big of a deal, honestly:

Best quote from that article:

quote:

In July, Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle, the head of the Air Force’s Air Combat Command, said in an interview he had faith in the aircraft and that he was “very, very confident it is going to continue to exceed our expectations.” But he warned that declaring the plane’s “initial combat capability is just the beginning. We still have work to do on the airplane, and it will continue to get better.”

"Continue to exceed our expectations." Are there any expectations the F-35 has exceeded that aren't negative ones?

I guess it's burned less fuel than was expected.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

It exceeded the expectations of Lockheed Martin's quarterly targets.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

mlmp08 posted:

Seems obnoxious, but not that big of a deal, honestly:

Oh, it's not a design flaw, but it could delay testing and stuff even more.

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy
Livestream of B-21 naming announcement, if anyone is THAT excited to see if their suggestion got chosen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rrSbCFc8aU

edit: it's "Raider"

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Alaan
May 24, 2005

:effort: not awful, just meh.

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