Your Dead Gay Son posted:

Lol

Shbobdb posted:

I recently watched Rebuild 1&2 and they were fun but in a post "walking in on your terminally autistic roommate masturbating to his framed picture of Rei" world I really have to say that Eva is many times more good than bad.

DoctorStrangelove posted:

How the gently caress does eva qualify as "non-weeb?"

Nathilus posted:

Gammatron 64 posted:

The characters in Eva are pretty terrifyingly spot-on to people with debilitating mental disorders, whether it was intentional or not. What's scarier is I've known actual people who are kinda similar to people in the show.

It's really not a show about giant robots, or aliens, or religion or symbolism or whatever. It's basically a show about severe depression and mental illness and the rest is window dressing. I have a theory that if you "don't get it", there's good news! You're probably moderately well-adjusted and thus don't really have a common frame of reference. So what I'm saying is if you're a typical sadbrain self-loathing nerd who posts in GBS, Eva is a show that you can likely relate to. If you're happy and life is good, you might not like Eva so much.

Your Dead Gay Son posted:

I agree that if you think Shinji "getting balls" in the rebuild 2 is totally missing the point, especially if you have issue with the characters hating him in rebuild 3 : "but he did something the thought was right!! Everyone is ganging up on him" every one has 12 years of his decision riding on their backs, you get to a point where it doesn't matter what someone's intentions are but only the results: in shinjis case : you can easily convince yourself he meant everything bad that happened and hate him for it.

It's hard you really conceptualize what a decade plus can do to your mind, mentally, if you're living in the aftermath of someones boneheaded decision, regardless if you agreed with them initially.

I know rebuild 3 is supposed to be a commentary on the Eva fans being stunted, but while I was initially really frustrated with everyone's reactions to shinjis decision / action from a decade previous, some bullshit irl actually cemented the idea that intentions don't mean ANYTHING.

Rebuild 3 is a lot more interesting with the idea in mind that everyone who opposes or hates Shinji is not "wrong ".

Leroy Dennui posted:

Walking in on your roommate masturbating to Rei improved your Eva experience?

Your Dead Gay Son posted:

I agree that if you think Shinji "getting balls" in the rebuild 2 is totally missing the point, especially if you have issue with the characters hating him in rebuild 3 : "but he did something the thought was right!! Everyone is ganging up on him" every one has 12 years of his decision riding on their backs, you get to a point where it doesn't matter what someone's intentions are but only the results: in shinjis case : you can easily convince yourself he meant everything bad that happened and hate him for it.

It's hard you really conceptualize what a decade plus can do to your mind, mentally, if you're living in the aftermath of someones boneheaded decision, regardless if you agreed with them initially.

I know rebuild 3 is supposed to be a commentary on the Eva fans being stunted, but while I was initially really frustrated with everyone's reactions to shinjis decision / action from a decade previous, some bullshit irl actually cemented the idea that intentions don't mean ANYTHING.

Rebuild 3 is a lot more interesting with the idea in mind that everyone who opposes or hates Shinji is not "wrong ".

Nathilus posted:

Eva and cowboy bebop are the gold standard of mostly non-weeb anime and both have decent dubs. Just why though? Why get into anime? Really dumb idea imo. Look at how stupid and lame I have made myself seem with my horrible, tragic evaposting in this thread. Is that what you want for yourself? REALLY?

Just dont do it bro. Blissful ignorance is the key to a happy, fulfilled life.

If you need more convincing, go read adtrw for 5 minutes.

Nathilus posted:

I read an interesting theory somewhere that each rebuild is a different take on eva. 1 is eva as it was, 2 is eva as anno percieved the fans wanted it to be, and 3 is the eva that is more in line with anno's ideals for the series.

As cathartic as seeing shinji nut up was after all those years, 2 does strike me as kinda wierd and off. No one is acting nuts or mean spirited. The girls are fighting over shinji (lol). Asuka treats him like a human being rather than a particularly contemptible dog. He easily gets in the robot with zero bitching. There's this character that can beat angels without a horrific emotional cost. Hell even gendo starts acting like some warm blood is flowing through his veins. It's kinda refreshing but is it even eva really? There's enough blood for it to be so, at least.

Bert Roberge posted:

I just don't get 95% of the references in the pyf cosplay thread and it is affecting my self esteem quite negatively.

Bert Roberge posted:

I just watched all of the documentary Nanking.

How caught up am I on Japanese culture?

Nathilus posted:

Its all you need to know really.

(I didn't even know don king GOT raped!)

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

No see, this anime is really deep because I'm a manchild that's never read a book in my entire life that was assigned outside of middle school.

Chill la Chill posted:

When I watch 2.22, I keep thinking it's shinji's dream and he wakes up for it at one point since it's so different but nope, I guess it's supposed to be real.

Nathilus posted:

It's like the saccharine "shinji's school days" anime you get a peak at in episodes 25 and 26. Eva without the angst and suffering is barely even eva.

https://youtu.be/FckkZihQUaU

caleramaen posted:

I'm of the opinion that Shinji's real life is actually an incredibly depressing version of that. He's not actually fighting giant monsters, he's just a regular kid who created this universe in his head cause his life is horrible as poo poo. His mom's dead, his dad ignores him, the girl he likes hates him, and everything terrible about the series is to some degree real, except it's incredibly mundane. Which means even in his fantasies, Shinji is the most pathetic person alive.

caleramaen posted:

I'm of the opinion that Shinji's real life is actually an incredibly depressing version of that. He's not actually fighting giant monsters, he's just a regular kid who created this universe in his head cause his life is horrible as poo poo. His mom's dead, his dad ignores him, the girl he likes hates him, and everything terrible about the series is to some degree real, except it's incredibly mundane. Which means even in his fantasies, Shinji is the most pathetic person alive.

personable decorum posted:

Rei was purely an object in the anime.

Nathilus posted:

Eva and cowboy bebop are the gold standard of mostly non-weeb anime and both have decent dubs. Just why though? Why get into anime? Really dumb idea imo. Look at how stupid and lame I have made myself seem with my horrible, tragic evaposting in this thread. Is that what you want for yourself? REALLY?

Just dont do it bro. Blissful ignorance is the key to a happy, fulfilled life.

If you need more convincing, go read adtrw for 5 minutes.

The Dennis System posted:

I think the most baller, non-weeb anime might be Death Note.

The Dennis System posted:

I think the most weeb anime might be Death Note.

RicochetD20 posted:

I haven't watched anime in a long time, but after reading this thread I decided to watch one of the remake movies. I had a weeblapse