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I was just thinking, that given that there's already a lot of foreshadowing that Vega is Hokuto's mother in disguise...and that Vega and Altair are linked because of Tanabata; does this mean that Altair is going to turn out to be Hokuto's dad? I have not seen Dendoh and I do not know, but that is my prediction.
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HiKaizer posted:I was just thinking, that given that there's already a lot of foreshadowing that Vega is Hokuto's mother in disguise...and that Vega and Altair are linked because of Tanabata; does this mean that Altair is going to turn out to be Hokuto's dad? I know  and all, but considering she's been wondering about her dead brother? Hopefully it would turn out to be his Uncle instead in that case 
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I thought Vega was supposed to be Misato in disguise.
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Broken Loose posted:I thought Vega was supposed to be Misato in disguise. Weird, I could have sworn it was Haruka.
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Sep 16, 2016 07:41
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Section Z posted:I know Oh yes, I forgot the brother part. I guess it's just heeeey these two are named after the Tanabata stars isn't that a strange coincidence?
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heavybassX posted:All the Grendizer love as of late makes me wish we can see Grendizer return to SRW in a way.... it would be good in a handheld SRW, although for that to happen you need to bring back classic Kouji Just invent Shin Grendizer to go with Shin Mazinger.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Just invent Shin Grendizer to go with Shin Mazinger. Keep hoping like that and maybe one day we'll get Shin Great Mazinger.
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Why hasn't Shin Great Mazinger happened yet? Shin Mazinger ended on a massive cliffhanger, of the about-to-get-mashed-into-paste variety. I really want to see what happens next, and that usually isn't the case when an anime ends.
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They went defunct iirc
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MonsieurChoc posted:Just invent Shin Grendizer to go with Shin Mazinger.
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AradoBalanga posted:IIRC, the Shin Mazinger Zero manga did do something along those lines. An in-universe continuity reboot where Kouji got amnesia (while Sayaka and others remembered the past) and instead married Maria Grace Fleed. In what timeline? The main one?
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Sep 16, 2016 22:58
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Ashram posted:In what timeline? The main one?
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Hivac posted:They went defunct iirc Basically whenever Imagawa does something really great it never sells enough to justify making more of it. Of course, he also really loves "the battle continues!" endings, so sometimes it's supposed to be like that.
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Instead of Shin Great we got 5 episodes of Robot Girls Z. Thanks nerds.
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Didn't Mazinkaiser debut in SRW? Maybe they should pull the same thing with Shin Great Mazinger, do it themselves in their own game, drum up interest, anime gets made later. And while I'm wishing for things that will never happen, I'll also take a SRW game that includes the Transformers, Megas XLR, Mega Man, Robocop, and Pacific Rim.
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Triple Mazinger was always my favorite team in SRW, they've got combo attacks for days.Hivac posted:They went defunct iirc Bee Media is still alive actually! They made Cyborg 009 VS Devilman back in 2015, which is pretty decent if you like campy 70s anime crossover movies. Something tells me that folks following an SRW MX LP might .
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 Location: Giganos Empire  Dorchenov is talking to some mysterious man whose people are just about ready to spring into action. The guy wants the Giganos to keep on distracting the Federation in the meantime. Dorchenov notes that the man hasn’t been able to deal with some flies buzzing around the Hisago Plan – the Nadesico B and the so-called "Black Ghost". The guy only says they’re taking measures regarding that. But, just to be safe, he’ll be sending some folks over for Dorchenov to use as he sees fit. Dorchenov thinks that that's a rather weak repayment but the rest of his reward will come when they gain full control of the "ruins". Dorchenov finds it ironic that the Nadesico and its heroes will be the spark for this new conflict and the mystery man signs off, saying it is all done in the name of mankind’s future and bringing about new order.  Dorchenov inwardly tells the Jovian ghosts they ought to remember that they’d be in a MUCH worse situation without Giganos support. But his more immediate problem is the intel he received of discontent amid the younger officers towards the brass’ methods. The only way he has of reeling them in is to ply the influence of someone who holds their trust – Maillot Plato. He figures Guiltorre will have no objections towards recalling the guy to the moon. So, he calls a mook over and tells him to have a certain group head to Earth and escort Maillot over. The mook seems a bit queasy but mystery man did say he could use them as he saw fit. Dorchenov’s not about to let them hang around to spy on him – might as well have them do whatever oddjobs he can. Finally, there’s the matter of that prototype unit - the Medius Locus - whose pilots sent, a few days ago, a request to cooperate with the Giganos. Dorchenov orders them assigned to their Far East base and put to work. The mook asks if they shouldn’t keep it closer, where they can study it? While the thing is a special prototype of the Federation, it is also an imperfect machine. Dorchenov’s only concern is to use both it and the Jovian ghosts as a diversion until the mobile fortress and the Gilgazamune are finished.  The Practice groupies have received their recall orders and are not happy – they’re to abandon their pursuit of the D Weapons? Yes, some Hokushin agents say, such are Dorchenov’s orders. They’re here to escort them back. Karl gets in their face, seeing that they’re not fellow Giganos. Who are these dogs sent to corral them?! Maillot steps in and tells him to pipe down. He realizes that Dorchenov wants him to keep the young officers in line and the Hokushin agents say they’ve heard talk of that. Dan and Werner tell him not to go, figuring this is a trap to kill Maillot and force everyone to bow to Dorchenov and his peers. Maillot doubts he’d try something so careless in Guiltorre's presence. Karl isn’t too sure, knowing Dorchenov would be willing to do anything to further his agenda. And that’s saying nothing about him sending these unfamiliar messengers here. Still, Maillot figures this to be a good chance to figure out the state of the army. Furthermore, he wants to see whole thing – both the top brass and the young officers – brought closer together to better fulfill Guiltorre's wishes. He tells the Hokushin men that he'll follow the orders, but only after he takes care of one last business: he wants to meet a certain man in person and ascertain his thoughts.  Back in the Argama, we’ve already received the Giganos message: they want to organize a private meeting between Kaine and one of their own. Misato and Vega already assume that this is a ploy to kidnap him, though Kaine doesn’t seen why they’d want to. Asuka explains that he, pilot of the D-1 and only person capable of actually turning the thing on, would make for quite the VIP. Does the rest of the team see him that way? Of course, Douglas nods; why else does he think their whole crew was reassigned to the Nahel Argama? Kaine figures they oughta treat him a whole lot nicer, then, but Ben tells him to shush – let’s not forget that he’s only in this situation because he and the others flew the Dragonars without permission. By rights, they should be in jail. Fair enough. When Vega asks, Douglas says it was the Giganos’ Blue Hawk himself who wants to meet Kaine. Why? We’ve no idea but the Giganos proposed a secret six hours of cease-fire as a show of good faith. Asuka smells a trap and Vega is also worried: there must be a big reason for them to request this meeting; maybe they want to confirm what the D-1 pilot looks like? Douglas says that the meeting area is in Kyoto, a demilitarized zone. They’ve assured Kaine’s safety but, of course, that’d require us actually believing said promise.  Misato figures it’s probably best to just ignore this request but Kaine is insulted that they’re suggesting he run from this meeting like a coward. Douglas argues that willingly walking into what could be a trap is wholly different matter; plus, there’s absolutely nothing for us to gain from this. Kaine isn’t having it: Kyoto is really close and we could get there in a heartbeat. The Blue Hawk requested him by name, so what kind of man is he if he refuses? Asuka says his pride isn’t what’s important now – what if something happens to him? The D-1’ll be grounded! Kaine smirks that he won’t get dropped that easy but it changes not the fact that he’s putting himself in a whole lot of danger. He points out that he'd hardly have joined the military if he was worried about that. And if they’re gonna be like this, then he’ll just go out with the D-1 on his own! “… Do you really think we’d let you off the ship after hearing that?” Misato asks. “Ah… crap…” Kaine’s other shoe drops.  As Ben tells him to pipe down before he decides to tie him to a chair, Bright actually speaks in favor of having the meeting. The Giganos obviously have an ulterior motive for this but this might also be a chance for us to gain some information about them. Misato concedes that gaining insight into the enemy’s personality could make it simpler to see through their strategies; plus, Bright would rather not risk the Dragonars deciding to leave on their own anyway. That said, he wants Vega and Domon to tag along as his escorts, while the D-3 and Garmraid stay close to support in case of a trap. Finally, Bright asks Kaine to be very careful.  Elsewhere, Light’s telling the kids about the Shirahime Incident: a recent attack suffered by the terminal colony of the Hisago Plan by a mysterious robot codenamed the “Black Ghost”. It’s all over the news and even Leina’s seen it. Ginga sounds a bit surprised to hear that colonies have ghosts too and Light reports that this ghost can seemingly Boson Jump as well. When Ginga asks, Kirakuni explains that Boson Jumping is, simply put, teleportation, and one of the causes of the Lizard War. Said war was over certain ruins from an ancient civilization on Mars, the creators of a piece of technology that must be used to perform a Boson Jump. Mind, Eris says that a specialized device and a uniquely talented person are also required. But, back to the war, at the eye of the hurricane was the battleship Nadesico A, led by the late Yurika Misumaru. Judging by the name, Ginga is quick to realize that it’s the daughter of Bright’s boss. Her death in a shuttle accident was nothing short of a tragedy, especially considering that she was on her honeymoon with Akito Tenkawa. Barring rumors that it was a Titans plot due to the Nadesico’s clashes with them in the Lizard War, the whole event is still marred with unanswered questions.  Aqua then shows up, telling Light about his recon role in the upcoming mission. She explains they’ll be escorting Kaine over to Kyoto, though Light still hasn’t gotten that memo. He can get details from Douglas but, more importantly, Aqua’s trying to find Hugo to get him up to speed. No one’s seen him but maybe in the hangar? Ginga and Leina are quick to offer their help by also checking his room. Aqua thanks them and goes off.   : … Hugo… : …: If you ever take anything I say to heart, make it this… There is death in life… and there is life in death…: …: Find out how to live through the unlivable. Carry out your mission and come back alive above all else. : There is no meaning in death. Defeat your enemy and survive – cling to life with every fiber of your being. That is the one ironclad rule of us, the Cry Wolves…: (And I survived… the battle against that demon…) : (Hey, Hugo… You in there?) : Yeah, come in.*Door opens.*  : Were you busy with anything?: No, no, I was just meditating. : Meditating? My mom made me do that while teaching me Shorinji Kenpo… I ended up with both legs numb.: The same happened while I was starting out… But did you need anything?: Ah, yes. Aqua was looking for you. : You got a new mission, so she wanted you to head to the bridge right now.: Alright. Location: Kyoto  Turns out the meeting with the Giganos is in a Buddhist temple, much to Domon’s surprise. Vega sighs that she hasn’t been in one since “he was born”… and, when Kaine asks if she’s a mom, immediately corrects herself by saying she’s talking about a relative’s child. One of the Hokushin welcomes them and Vega presents Kaine Wakaba, as requested. As the guy beckons them inside, Domon tells Vega to be careful: this guy’s stance is that of a trained person. She’s noticed it and both stand ready to act if need be.  Light tells Hugo and Aqua that the team’s reached the temple; when asked, he also tells he’s detecting several heat sources in the mountains opposite them - no real surprise there. They haven’t attacked yet, so it seems the meeting’s legit and Aqua wonders if there'll be any time for sightseeing if things continue to remain quiet. Light’s interested, having heard of this “Daimonji” thing before. That’s the Daimonji festival, Hugo corrects. Regardless, it’s not time that time of the year yet so that idea won’t fly. Aqua’s rather surprised that he knows so much of this place and Hugo explains that his old superior officer was a bit of a Japanophille. That person had him do some spiritual stuff in a nearby temple as part of his training way back when. Aqua asks if said person was the leader of his old elite squad, prompting Hugo to start scowling. “Did I say something wrong?” she wonders. Hugo only turns back to Light, asking him to keep a close eye on the Giganos – they won’t care that this is neutral ground if they’ve anything planned. Maggie’s on the job.  Kaine finally meets with Maillot Plato who introduces himself formally. “‘P-Plato’?! That’s the same surname as Linda…!” Kaine gasps inwardly. Vega and Domon, meanwhile, see that the Blue Hawk’s reputation is well deserved – he’s the bearing of a true warrior. So, why did he call Kaine here? To ask a question: “What are you fighting for?” Not because he gets a kick out of doing so or because of orders, for one. But if not out of loyalty to his homeland, then, why? “So I can keep everyone alive! You guys started this fight in the first place… And until you back off – until Giganos is wrecked – I’ll keep at it!” he says. “Fool,” Maillot spits. “You haven’t the slightest grasp of your inner strength. You are ignorant in every sense of the word.”  As Kaine bristles, Domon sees what’s going on. “You’ve felt your convictions wavering in battle, didn’t you?” he asks. Maillot knows much about Domon and asks why he, one of the Shuffle Alliance, is helping out the Earthnoids when all they do is consume Mother Earth? Isn’t the Shuffle Alliance meant to guide the history of humanity down a better path? Domon sniffs at him preaching the restoration of mankind when his group keeps a knife at the environment’s throat with their Mass Driver. Those who’d look down upon others, who’d impose their will upon them, cannot speak of thinking of humanity as a whole! Maillot asks if that’s what he learned from the Undefeated of the East. Regardless, they haven’t much time left: between the first MU conflict, the Second Impact, One Year War, Lizard War and, finally, the Gryps War, humanity and the Earth Sphere as a whole are reaching their breaking point. There’ll be no future for them without drastic measures. Vega disagrees, raising the point that this is no time for humans to fight among each other with the Gulfer and Vegans are our doorstep. This world would be finished if they invaded in earnest. Kaine agrees, saying that this war is exactly what those guys want; Maillot isn’t listening, however, sighing that we are incapable of grasping the Giganos’ ideals. He has one final question: is one Linda Plato travelling with us? The fact that he knows her is all the confirmation Kaine needed that this guy’s related to his crush.  But the Hokushin agents decided that this is enough talk. They’re here to capture Kaine now! Maillot demands he explain himself and it seems Dorchenov’s sent new orders: they’re to bring in Kaine so they can use it as a bargaining chip with the Feds. Maillot objects that he only summoned the young pilot over to witness his true character – to ascertain whether he’s a warrior to be respected, one who could defeat him in battle if underestimated. He’s seen that though Kaine’s spirit is wild and, indeed, he has much potential. Well, he can keep studying him back on the moon as the Hokushin still have their job to do. They draw their blades to attack… and are promptly repelled by Domon. “Hmph… The Jovian-Style quickdraw technique, I see. Still, swordsmanship of that level won't work against the School of the Undefeated of the East!” he says before kicking them away. The Hokushin are undaunted but Vega joins in and sends them flying with her own kung fu – time to leave, right now.  Mission 11 – Do Justice To Don't ask me what this title means.  Metal Armors are quick to enter the area and Domon ponders the Giganos were planning to attack from the very start. Whether Maillot was in on it is a wholly different story, mind. Vega grabs her Valkyrie and asks both men aboard – Light’s already told her that the Nahel Argama’s headed this way. Kaine won’t turn her offer down (“I always wanted to ride this thing!”) and Vega points out the area where they can rendezvous with the ship. She says that Light and Hugo, arriving just now, will keep the pursuers at bay. They’re all ready to cover their escape, so off everyone goes.  Mission Objective: the Valkyrie reaches the demarked area Mission Failure: Any allied unit shot down This mission actually caught me by surprise and gave me my first game over. You’ll see why in a bit but, suffice to say, you’ll want Vega to get to that spot ASAP. If you’ve some boosters lying around, putting it on her bike will make things simpler.  We’ll have Light take point, setting up that nice EWAC fun-zone.     Can’t oneshot these Gebais, still. Hugo finishes the job. Vega moves into D-3’s zone, becoming even more untouchable.  Enemy Phase!  Light pings another unit on approach and Hugo and Aqua quickly recognize the signal. In comes the Medius, its pilot surprised to find the Garmraid here – the sentiment goes both ways. Either way, the Medius gets in touch with the Giganos and tells them they’ll handle the Garmraid. Light’s shocked that they’re working together and Aqua raises the question that the thief may be showcasing the unit to a potential buyer. In that case, why bring it here? Why risk the valuable stolen prototype in an actual battlefield? Aqua figures he could be trying to compile live combat data just like we’re doing with the Dragonars or, maybe, the thief may want to steal the Garmraid as well. Well, whatever the reason, Hugo decides it’s another chance for us to destroy the thing – and, inwardly, to confirm who’s actually piloting it. The Medius pilot figures he'll tell Hugo and Aqua’s what's what soon but, first, he and the woman want to test their progress. With that in mind, he asks her to keep AI1 on a tight leash and minimize its interference in the battle.  The smaller enemies, and the Medius, are closing in, though only the Gebais are in range to attack. Light gets them all in the yellow.  Player Phase!  This is hardly recommended for reasons you’ll see shortly but, screw it, there’re convos to be had.  : This thing’s capabilities are now a whole lot higher than what the previous data said…! : An electronic warfare unit, huh? You’ll stand no chance against the Medius with that puny machine!       : This mech… it really is targeting Hugo and Aqua?! : We’ve no business with you. Still, you’d better make your peace if you’re set on getting in the way!     : Heh… It must be fate for us to end up fighting in this area. : I’m bringing your face out into the light, pilot of the Medius!   Word of the wise: keep Hugo next to Light. : Hmm… Looks like he’s gotten a bit better. : (I knew it – this unit’s moves are…!): But, right now, you’ve no hope of beating the Medius and I! : !    : Th-That’s…!: It’s just like before! : No issues whatsoever between the mech and AI1.: In that case…!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RigwRu3SDDM  : Hugo! Aqua! : Ah— Aaargh…!: Y-You alright, Aqua…?!: Somehow, yes…! But how is the Medius that strong…?!: (He read me like an open book in that attack run…! I…I’m sure of it now…!) : What happened, Hugo? Did you forget what you learned here? : That voice…! It really is you, Captain…!: Come again, Hugo?! : You know what pilot?: Y-yes… He’s the captain of the Cry Wolves special forces, the Federation squad I belonged to… Former Major Albero Est..! : Then he was your master as well?!: Yes… Everything I know of combat, I learned from him…!: That, you did, Warrant Officer Hugo Medio…  : Wait, you’re an Ensign now, right?: Captain… why are you flying the Medius Locus?! Didn’t you leave the army after— : That’s not for you to know. You were chosen as the Garmraid’s pilot and, I, the Medius’. That’s all there is to it.: Then why did you go and steal it?!: Again, that’s not for you to know!: B-But…! *Morale dooooown.* : C-Captain, why are you…! : Pull yourself together, Hugo! That guy’s trying to trying to kill us!: No! The Captain would never do something like that! : Hugo…!: If you won’t fight, then you'll die right now. There isn't really any point in living with your body like that, right? (PSP Version: And living with your body like that would only mean pain, right?) : !!: (His body…? What does he mean by that…?!): I’ll make it quick – it'll be my last duty as your former superior.: C-Captain… you’re…! : Hugo, move! We’re goners if you don’t do something!: I… I can’t do anything…!: Do you really think this is the time to be acting like that, you moron?!: !: Are you really letting this be the end? You’ll just drop dead right here, without knowing – or doing – anything about whatever’s going on?!: …: Well, I’m not having it! I’m not dying without producing those results or figuring out what’s what!: …!: And if you’re gonna insist that you can’t do it, then hand me the controls! I’ll fight this myself!: But that’s…!: What, you don’t think I can pull it off?! I’ve had pilot training too, you know!: … : No…: ?!: I'll fight him - it's my responsibility…!: …: The Captain’s not backing off, so I have to…! I’ve to fight in order to survive…!: Hugo…!: That’s it. I don’t remember raising you as man who’d just lie down and accept death. : … Are you sure about this, Albero? (Her name’s Elde): Of course I am.: Then, please, don’t let her find out about my being here just yet.: Fine.: Hurry, Vega! It'll be dangerous to let things carry on like this!: I got it!
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Enemy Phase!  Light gets jumped but just dodges everything – best to save these mooks. More importantly, Albero gets another shot at Hugo. That’s a problem because cutscene damage carries on and the previous event is set to play either when you get the Medius to 40% HP or during the first enemy turn after he’s arrived. Regardless, you’ll end up with your unit in critical HP and will very likely need to wait a turn to heal. And Albero can absolutely still attack you in his turn, even after the event (he’ll always be in your face after the plot kicks in). So, either you’ve taken precautions or you’re all but surely eating a Game Over here when the Garmraid gets wrecked. So, I had Aqua cast Focus and sat them right next to Light – EWAC will boost Hugo’s dodge rate and, worst case scenario, he can Support Defend. : Show me what you’re made of, Hugo Medio!: Urk!  You can’t defend because even that will get you killed. Oh, and I hope you didn’t leave Hugo too close to the mooks or they might decide to take that easy kill. At least the Gebais seem very focused on Light. Player Phase!  We apply the traditional Joestar technique, having Light heal Hugo while at it. Vega’s still making a beeline for the marked spot. Enemy Phase!  I’d kept Hugo with Alert but, of course, this Drau decides to kill that plan.     Jerk.  Albero readily attacks and I’m not comfortable letting Hugo tank that hit just yet. Light eats a crit but barely hangs on. Fast forward another two turns of running away because while I could trigger the Argama’s arrival by killing a ton of things (which’d require me to send folks to the opposite side of the map), I’m trying to spread the exp around. Player Phase!  Vega reaches the spot and the Nahel Argama IMMEDIATELY arrives. Light confirms to Tap that we’re in one piece but immediately picks up trouble incoming: the four Hokushin guys have decided to join the attack now that our folks arrived. They figure we’ll be a problem sooner or later, so they might as well take the time to see how strong we are. Kouji and Akira have never seen their units before – neither MSs or MAs – but Misato raises the point that they attacked us in a demilitarized zone. Letting them be would mean this entire region being conquered, so it’s up to us to clean house.  Alright, now that’s better. First things first, I remember to get Mondo’s worthless rear end out here to get some exp.    There. He’s up to speed now.  And he learns Cheer.  Albero’s up next but I’ll have Asuka clean up some room.    There we go.   : I don’t know what’s up with you but we won’t back down if you’re raring for a fight!: You misunderstand, kid. Your group’s destruction isn't what we're after. That being said, I don’t pull my punches against anyone who stands up to the Medius!: That’s my line! You’re gunning for Hugo, so I’m also bringing everything I have to the table!    : Now this is actually good. We didn’t get all the data we wanted on Mutron Energy before. : Those enemies that showed up in Mutropolis were yours then?!: You don’t need to know that. In fact, all that’s needed is for you to be fodder to the Medius!     : NERV’s famous ‘all-purpose humanoid decisive weapon’… You, too, will help the Medius grow! : What’s going on…?! His spirit is overwhelming…! : However great your mech is, if the pilot’s a weakling, then it’s no more than a fancy paperweight! You’re about to get an eyeful of the horror of the battlefield!    : Stop! If you’ve any issues with the Garmraid, then go and talk with Hugo!: There wouldn’t be any point. Only with combat does the Medius inch closer and closer to perfection!    : You know Hugo, don’t you?! Why the hell are you attacking them, then?!: I’ve no problem with them in particular. But this battle is one they can’t avoid so long as they pilot the Garmraid!: Enough with the cryptic nonsense, guy! Just take a sec and think of what Hugo must be going through, drat it!      Kouji had a convo, too, but I forgot!  : drat it… If you were hiding your identity all this time then you oughta have stuck with it!: Heh, you’re worried about Hugo, eh? What good friends he’s got. : On the flip side, he really got shafted in the "old boss" department!: Hmph, not bad at all. But I still have the Lazmunanium on my side…!: Albero, AI1’s displaying a negative response.: What, is it warning about something?: No, it seems some issues managing the Lazmunanium have cropped up.: Heh, guess that means Hugo’s not the only one who still needs to grow.: …: But fine. We’ll leave here.: Hugo! The Medius is—!: Captain, wait!: I’ll give you one piece of advice, Hugo. Any hesitation will cost you your life in the battles to come. You’d best not hope to talk me down.: !: Bye.*The Medius runs off.* : Captain…! : Hugo…Enemy Phase!  The distant Giganos are closing in but the Hokushin guys are all staying put. Player Phase!  : Captain, we’re detecting a Bose particle reaction in the area! : What?!  : Bose particles…? Someone’s doing a Boson Jump?!  Now this is something that only sank in way after the W LP ended. The actual flower (as noted by Shihomi, even) – and thus the mech itself – is called Black Sarana. I find myself rather annoyed at my past self for not knowing better but, on the other hand, this is PoD. I don’t care about PoD.  : … : Th-The hell is that?! : It’s a… black Mobile Armor?  : No, it’s not…!: What is it then?!: No idea. I’m getting zilch on both the unit and its affiliation.  : But it just did a Boson Jump, which means… : It’s an Aestivalis or a Jovian weapon…?: Maybe it’s…: You got an idea?: It might be the Black Ghost, the bot seen in the Shirahime Incident…! : That’s ridiculous! The terminal colony’s way out in the asteroid belt, isn’t it? You’re saying it came all the way to Kyoto from there?!: If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... : I did not expect him to show up here… Did he track us down? : No matter. Our role was to play bait anyway… This makes things simpler.: … : But is that another enemy or…? : I feel something… What is this…?! : It’s hatred; just pouring out of that machine…! : “Hatred”? : Does that mean the thing’s a legit ghost, then?! : Don’t be stupid. The sensors are picking up vital signs coming from it. : Either way, that’s some extraordinary Chi… Who the hell is this?: … : Captain, the unknown isn’t answering our hails! : Then everyone keep their eyes open. Be ready to fight back if it attacks us!If the Medius is still around, Elde won't have any data on the Black Sarana but tags it as quite the impressive unit for its armor, mobility and ability to Boson Jump unassisted. This makes it a prime data sample for the Medius and AI1 but Albero speaks against it: their primary target here is the Garmraid/Cerberus.   Black Sarana, High-Mobility Frame (???) Pilot Skills:
We actually don’t have to worry about this guy, which is good because he’s pretty beefy. Distortion Fields on their own are annoying to deal with (the Hokushin guys’ Rokurens also have them) and the Black Sarana packs a heavy punch. The pilot himself also has big stats across the board, with Revenge providing a nice boost during the enemy turn. We’ll need to head over to the Hokushin ASAP, lest this guy kill them all and take our money and exp.  So, everyone moves onward. Enemy Phase!  Our mystery friend blinks over and gets to work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwu2SXGtAjo Not as cool-looking as in W but it still hurts a lot.  Most of the Giganos’ Dauzehns are still on approach but this one manages to sneak an attack run on Kaine.  Cue all four Rokurens bashing their heads against the Black Sarana, only to eat a barrier-piercing counterattack. Player Phase!  Domon leads the charge and one of the Hokushin is already down on his last legs.      3k on a crit from Domon is unusually low. You’d best get used to this feeling.  I assumed the Dendoh’s Drill Charge would pierce barriers since, you know, drills usually do that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dSmBll8Ywk It doesn’t but they’ve their own barrier to help. Also: “This is your fault, Hokuto!”; “No, it’s yours!”  Judau seals the deal, taking Sword Cut L4.  Meanwhile, the Giganos are getting wrecked. Hikaru in the TFO oneshots a guy, while Elle and Mondo tag team another.  And Roux…    She keeps proving herself to be the second best ZZ pilot.   The Dragonar crew ply their teamwork, killing another pair. Domon gets his Hyper Mode going. Enemy Phase!  While the Sarana manages to steal a kill, the last Hokushin decides to try his hand on Domon and gets only slightly less wrecked. Player Phase!  While the last Giganos falls to Mondo, Domon weakens the guy further and we’re in the clear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM9fz3zcDFw The thing’s not in a good spot for Shinji to snipe but we can still show his regular Positron Rifle (note, it’s not the Positron SNIPER Rifle). Our loot is an Image Sensor (Crit rate +20), EWAC (Weak) and Cartridge.  All enemies are down and we still have no response from the unknown. Rather, Saegusa detects an increase in Bose particles and, poof, the Black Sarana Boson Jumps away. We still have no idea who that was but, more importantly, Bright wants to leave this area as well. As we go, Maillot was watching the whole thing and he’s got mental warning for Kaine: “It’ll be impossible for you to defeat me with middling conviction. Do not forget that.”  : …: Hugo… : I have to ask, Hugo. Was there something between you, that man… and the Devil Gundam?: …: Are we to blame for…: No… I don’t blame you for anything; to say nothing of the fact that I also know the whole story behind the Devil Gundam Incident.: … Alright. I’ll wait until you’re willing to open up. : Sorry…: But keep in mind that I’m always willing to help. If there’s anything I can do, just say the word.: OK…*Domon leaves.*  : You’re not going to explain things to me, either, are you?: …: That’s fine. I’m not about to try to pry answers out of you.: And… I’m sorry for yelling at you today. : No, don’t be.: Ah…?: That man once taught me: “carry out your mission and come back alive. Defeat your enemy and survive”…: …: I’d almost forgotten that. : But he’s…: Why did the captain steal the Medius Locus; why is he attacking us…? I still have no idea what the answer to those questions is.: But he’s my enemy now… so I can’t hesitate to fight him. I won’t… That’s also something he taught me.: Are you 100% sure about this?: Yeah. I know him better than anyone – he’s not one to change his mind once it’s made up. If I don’t fight him with everything I have, I’ll only end up dead.: …: Besides, it dawned on me today: it’s the two of us, together, who make the Garmraid tick.: (I-It dawned on you TODAY…?): … Well, I’m glad to hear that. The two of us are partners, after all.: And if you ever want to talk, just come and find me, alright? Like Domon, if there’s anything I can do to help, I will.: Alright. Thanks.  The commanders are done compiling data on the Black Ghost – they’ll be sending it to Misumaru as well. We don’t really know anything about it after this encounter but Misato assumes, from the fact that it can Boson Jump, that the unit must be connected to either Nergal or the Jovians. Furthermore, she says it’s very likely an A-Class Jumper – someone with the ability to perform a Boson Jump by visualizing the destination – was piloting it. Furthermore, Torres is blown away by the fact that such a tiny machine could execute the jump without any nearby Tulips. Curious and curiouser.  Elsewhere, Kaine is telling Light and Tap of his suspicions that Linda is Maillot’s sister. It hasn’t been confirmed yet but, considering the guy’s way of speaking about her, Kaine is rather sure. His suspicions would also imply that Maillot himself is the son of Prof. Plato; Puru Two hasn’t heard the story, so Light tells of the time Linda was with them and how her father was the creator of the Dragonars. Judau remembers them saying that Linda was working at a refugee camp now? That’s what they heard but, then, Puru Two asks where the professor himself is. Linda told Kaine that the guy disappeared after defecting from the Giganos. No, Light doesn’t think he’s been assassinated as the Feds were keeping a very close eye on this VIP. Most likely, the disappearance is a cover and he’s helping the Federation get ready to mass-produce the Dragonars. Judau figures Maillot must have gone through a tough bit after his father turned traitor but that’s probably what pushed him to give 110% of himself for the Giganos cause. Kaine agrees after meeting with the guy: this isn’t your average “smug ace pilot”. Rather, the guy’s a whole lot more committed to his cause than we thought.  Aqua’s gotten in touch with Mitall, reporting that they’ve uncovered the identity of the Medius’ thief. Mitall appreciates the good info and tells them to keep up their hunt for the unit. Doesn’t he have anything else to say, wonders Aqua? Albero Est is Hugo’s former SO and there is absolutely no way this is just a coincidence. Mitall shrugs and asks if she’s accusing him of being the mastermind behind this whole thing. Aqua figures it’s not too farfetched a conclusion, especially considering the incident with Model #1-esque models the other day. Mitall argues that the Medius’ theft has been a major inconvenience to him as well: the development of Models #8 and #9 is now way off schedule, and he's still got to keep things working nicely for the Federation. He tells Aqua that she and Hugo need to solve this as quickly as possible, and hangs up. Aqua’s left to ponder by lonesome: “He’s not going to show his hand easily, I guess… Actually, knowing the professor, he saw this coming. Well, keep watching – I’m not about to just let you use us like that. ” Brunom1 fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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Another little touch here: the Houkushin pilots barely had any depth in PoD proper, yet MX opts to give them all unique portraits to help them stand out. Although that's probably because PoD's villain roster would be only represented by like, two dudes we haven't met yet, and only one of those characters has any meat to their character.
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Sep 18, 2016 02:10
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I like how Domon is calling out other dudes' fighting styles. That is totally the kind of thing he'd do.
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Sep 18, 2016 02:49
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Oh.... I hated this mission because I got RNG'd 2-3 times. I eventually did it with patience and buildings.
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Sep 18, 2016 18:40
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Ah yes.... the Nadesico movie. The one a lot of people hated. "looks around and see if there's a riot happening" Is it sad that I know the GAME that ties this and the anime together.
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Sep 19, 2016 00:00
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heavybassX posted:Ah yes.... the Nadesico movie. The one a lot of people hated. We should try to find some poor soul to LP that thing.
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Sep 19, 2016 00:14
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The game doesn't actually do that good of a job tying things together anymore than a paragraph-long recap would. The whole thing got blown out of proportion, Prince of Darkness sucks, and US Nadesico fans would rather pretend they were missing an important piece of the puzzle than admit that the sequel is outright bad.
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Sep 19, 2016 01:41
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Personally, I vote that we all call the Black Ghost the "Chocolate Lily" from here on out. And Awesome Domon continues to be awesome.
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Sep 19, 2016 03:46
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Broken Loose posted:The game doesn't actually do that good of a job tying things together anymore than a paragraph-long recap would. The whole thing got blown out of proportion, Prince of Darkness sucks, and US Nadesico fans would rather pretend they were missing an important piece of the puzzle than admit that the sequel is outright bad. There is nothing short of pulling an SRW-W and bringing Gai back to life that could fix Prince of Darkness, we just want to know WHY IS IT SO BAD?
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Sep 19, 2016 03:52
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Ardeem posted:There is nothing short of pulling an SRW-W and bringing Gai back to life that could fix Prince of Darkness, we just want to know WHY IS IT SO BAD? Killing off Gai was a mistake. Like, I get what they were trying to do, but it really was a mistake. Especially since they never really followed up on the themes behind his death in the rest of the series.
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Sep 19, 2016 04:24
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GilliamYaeger posted:Killing off Gai was a mistake. Like, I get what they were trying to do, but it really was a mistake. Uhm, Real Life Doesn't Work Like Super Robot Shows, Nergal IS EVIL, and You Have To Hold Onto Hope Where You Can Find It were kinda long running themes. A world without Gekiganger is just too depressing to live in, but you can't let yourself get lost in those fantasies either. Like, my biggest gripes with PoD are that they turned Akito in a boring, one-dimensional antagonist, didn't explane how or why until the last fifteen minutes of the movie, and also didn't replace him with an interesting protagonist while he was off angsting.
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Sep 19, 2016 04:47
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Ardeem posted:There is nothing short of pulling an SRW-W and bringing Gai back to life that could fix Prince of Darkness, we just want to know WHY IS IT SO BAD? As for why PoD is bad, well there's a few reasons. The biggest one is the massive tone shift from the TV series. Nadesico TV was a mix of parody and meta commentary on the giant robot genre, and (outside of a few times) was generally a comedic series. Prince of Darkness (and what little I've read about Blank of Three Years) shifts into super serious drama that ultimately falls flat thanks to pacing and the next issue, characterization. All but a handful of the returning characters in the film are rewritten completely to be polar opposites of what they were like in the TV series (to the point you could argue the changes count as character assassination for a few), and the new characters for the film are bland, especially the villains. Finally, PoD was written with the intention of being part one of a trilogy. Unfortunately it bombed and the other two parts, that probably would have explained a bunch of crap in PoD, vanished into the ether with no information on what the follow up films would have covered. So, at the end of the day, Prince of Darkness stands as an example of how not to follow up a comedy show with a sequel movie that changes almost everything.
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Jiro Yamada needed to die (and it needed to be in the least heroic way possible), and if you don't know why then you don't understand Nadesico. The only reason why his existence in W worked at all was because he "died" for the events of the TV show and his death was overshadowed by actual heroics happening in the other plot threads. It's like bitching about Kamina's death. It's stupid early in the plot, the actual main characters learn and grow a phenomenal amount from it, and "I stopped watching after that point" is a direct declaration that you don't give a poo poo about the vast majority of the show in question. The prevalence of that opinion (that the show "sucked" after a hot-blooded character dies, despite the fact that the person saying it often never watched after that point) is so ignorant and mind-boggling, it's like somebody saying "Killing off Owen and Beru Lars was a mistake" 15 minutes into Star Wars.
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Broken Loose posted:Jiro Yamada needed to die (and it needed to be in the least heroic way possible), and if you don't know why then you don't understand Nadesico. The only reason why his existence in W worked at all was because he "died" for the events of the TV show and his death was overshadowed by actual heroics happening in the other plot threads. This is interesting, because I'm pretty sure the reason you can pretty much always save Gai in SRW is because his death only works when Nadesico is taken on its own. It's meant to say "real life doesn't work like super robot anime", but once actual super robot anime are introduced, it just becomes a cheap, pointless death that serves no purpose. Nobody undergoes a dramatic change as a result of Gai Daigoji's death, they're just really sad for a while and get more serious about piloting. By the end of the series, his only significance is all the Gekiganger poo poo he had, and he didn't need to die for that. The primary effect his death has is on the viewer, breaking down their expectations in order to set the tone. Naturally, SRW has a much more traditional tone, which is why Gai gets to live. Might have been interesting, though, if SRW D (by far the darkest game in the franchise) had included Nadesico without the option to save Gai, so his death could fulfill its intended narrative purpose at least once. Hm, maybe if they did a new game as a sort-of successor to D, same basic setup, but with Mazinger Zero and Nadesico instead of normal Mazinger and Macross 7. Maybe work in Code Geass and VOTOMS, too. Hell, drop Big O and add Ideon, swap Megazone 23 for original Evangelion, or Fafner. You get the idea, it's entirely possible to create the darkest of all timelines in SRW at this point, without even losing any of Gundam, Getter, or Mazinger.
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Broken Loose posted:Jiro Yamada needed to die (and it needed to be in the least heroic way possible), and if you don't know why then you don't understand Nadesico. The only reason why his existence in W worked at all was because he "died" for the events of the TV show and his death was overshadowed by actual heroics happening in the other plot threads. I think a lot of the reaction has to do with the fact Gai's death, regardless of any of that, was also played off as a scene parody Which reinforces the opinion that he died as much to make a punchline, rather than "See, this isn't a comedy show!" or assisting the plot posthumously in any regard outside of his DVD collection.That random guy Megumi was talking with getting cut off because WHOOPS HE'S DEAD, even if that was probably a Gunbuster reference, is much closer to poo poo being serious and not a hot blooded cartoon. (At least I think I'm remembering this right, it's been ages since I've watched the show). I get what you are saying with the Kamina thing, but... Well, bad comparison when stating Gai needed to die like a chump. Considering for how frequently stupid Kamina was, he still made a huge assist in the process of his death instead of just getting stepped on by a giant robot he was trash talking on foot or something. Section Z fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Sep 19, 2016 |
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Broken Loose posted:Jiro Yamada needed to die (and it needed to be in the least heroic way possible), and if you don't know why then you don't understand Nadesico. The only reason why his existence in W worked at all was because he "died" for the events of the TV show and his death was overshadowed by actual heroics happening in the other plot threads. I stopped watching shortly after Gai's death... ...because I was watching it on DVD and only had like, one or two of the things, so I physically couldn't continue watching after his death. That was like ten years ago too. Almost everything else I know about Nadesico I've picked up from Super Robot Wars, which indeed has probably colored my perceptions on things. EclecticTastes posted:This is interesting, because I'm pretty sure the reason you can pretty much always save Gai in SRW is because his death only works when Nadesico is taken on its own. It's meant to say "real life doesn't work like super robot anime", but once actual super robot anime are introduced, it just becomes a cheap, pointless death that serves no purpose. Nobody undergoes a dramatic change as a result of Gai Daigoji's death, they're just really sad for a while and get more serious about piloting. By the end of the series, his only significance is all the Gekiganger poo poo he had, and he didn't need to die for that. The primary effect his death has is on the viewer, breaking down their expectations in order to set the tone. Naturally, SRW has a much more traditional tone, which is why Gai gets to live. Darkest SRW recipe: Fafner Exodus, Mazinger Zero, Getter Robo Armageddon, Evangelion 3.33, and Muv Luv Alternative. Maybe add some Godannar too, and make the Memetic Beasts BETA creations. Possibly include Turn A Gundam, Zegapain, the Big O and Linebarrels of Iron for extra post-post apocalypse flavour. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Sep 19, 2016 |
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Sep 19, 2016 07:22
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GilliamYaeger posted:Darkest SRW recipe: Fafner Exodus, Mazinger Zero, Getter Robo Armageddon, Evangelion 3.33, and Muv Luv Alternative. Maybe add some Godannar too, and make the Memetic Beasts BETA creations. Possibly include Turn A Gundam, Zegapain, the Big O and Linebarrels of Iron for extra post-post apocalypse flavour. I liked the "CCA except Char succeeds in dropping Axis" twist D had, it was a pretty dark turn. Turn A is extremely lighthearted, if you want dark for Gundam, you need some flavor of UC. Besides, you listed fewer than ten series, there haven't been that few since the SNES era.
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Sep 19, 2016 07:29
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Voices of a Distant Star + Gunbuster part 3 so we can have three different timelapsed girls coming home to find out the world's gone to poo poo?
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EclecticTastes posted:I liked the "CCA except Char succeeds in dropping Axis" twist D had, it was a pretty dark turn. Turn A is extremely lighthearted, if you want dark for Gundam, you need some flavor of UC. Besides, you listed fewer than ten series, there haven't been that few since the SNES era. Turn A's there mainly for the Black History, which ties in with Linebarrels, Zegapain, Big O and potentially Mazinger Zero and Muv Luv Alternative if you replace dimension traveling with time traveling. If you want to buff the series count, Char's Counterattack (Char tries to drop Axis on the main BETA hive), Demonbane and Mazinkaiser SKL (some guys dig up Mazinkaiser, which was made in the previous iteration of the world) would fit nicely.
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Sep 19, 2016 07:52
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GilliamYaeger posted:I stopped watching shortly after Gai's death... No Bokurano?
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Sep 19, 2016 09:05
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I think Zeta and Gundam SEED would also be good for high body counts. Maybe some 0079 stuff if they want to go full One Year War level atrocities on us.
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Onmi posted:No Bokurano? I can't believe I forgot about that. It'd even work well with Mazinger Zero, MLA and Demonbane, whose interdimensional timefuckery is probably WHY alternate universes need to be culled. Logicblade posted:I think Zeta and Gundam SEED would also be good for high body counts. Maybe some 0079 stuff if they want to go full One Year War level atrocities on us. Yeah, probably. Between Fafner, Mazinger Zero, Linebarrels, Godannar, Zeta/CCA and/or SEED/Destiny and maybe Demonbane, there'd be enough to justify a W-style timeskip in the middle of the game. Have the first part end with Ishigami and Hadou Kouzou dying and Japan sealing itself away with the Photonic barrier.
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Broken Loose posted:Jiro Yamada Only Nidengard calls him that And personally, I think killing him off works in that it removes anything close to a role model for Akito from the series, leaving him basically adrift until he finally figures things out himself during the last episode. (Akatsuki attempts to take that mantle up but is either terrible at it or doing a half-assed job of it on purpose.)
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