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Just annex the rest of Luxembourg to Belgium edit: and then annex Belgium to France Even the Dutch speaking parts.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 19:15 |
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Kurtofan posted:Just annex the rest of Luxembourg to Belgium Stop insulting the faux-french.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 19:49 |
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Kurtofan posted:Just annex the rest of Luxembourg to Belgium Whoa there, France has enough racists as is, no need to add the Walloon AND the Flems.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 19:55 |
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Whoa there, France has enough racists as is, no need to add the Walloon AND the Flems.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 20:06 |
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YF-23 posted:I use Czechia because it's the better name.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 20:27 |
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Libluini posted:Thanks for the info! Looks like this Juppé-guy is the best option left for France, the other dumbasses look like the personification of divine punishment for France to me. so basically France is going to absorb the pathetic joke that is the Bundeswehr, and immediately send them all to Africa on 'peacekeeping' missions to keep the natives in line?
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 21:08 |
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So what are the odds of the refugees and their descendants of integrating and becoming productive members of European societies, as opposed to being ghettoized and marginalized like the economic migrants of the 50s and their descendants? Is anybody contributing to this public discussion beside the far-right?
Iggore fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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Iggore posted:So what are the odds of the refugees and their descendants of integrating and becoming productive members of European societies, as opposed to being ghettoïsation and marginalized like the economic migrants of the 50s and their descendants? Is anybody contributing to this public discussion beside the far-right? Given Germany's and the Periphery's demographics it's not like they have much of a choice
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 21:13 |
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icantfindaname posted:Given Germany's and the Periphery's demographics it's not like they have much of a choice No, no, I'm not asking "are they gonna have immigrants or not", I'm asking "are they gonna do it right or not". Things just seem to be handled in such a reactive manner with no concerted plan, and the consequences of this are already showing (explosion of population and criminality in Calais jungle for exemple). Maybe this is something only a genuine European federal policy could have managed.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 21:21 |
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icantfindaname posted:so basically France is going to absorb the pathetic joke that is the Bundeswehr, and immediately send them all to Africa on 'peacekeeping' missions to keep the natives in line? France provides the troops, Germany provides the money to buy new materiel because holy gently caress the Transalls and VABs should have been replaced like a decade ago and the navy is supposed to have two aircraft carriers so that one remains available when the first undergoes maintenance.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 22:42 |
Shame the UK is leaving the EU since they have a couple of useless carriers that won't have any planes for half a decade.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 22:47 |
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Iggore posted:So what are the odds of the refugees and their descendants of integrating and becoming productive members of European societies, as opposed to being ghettoized and marginalized like the economic migrants of the 50s and their descendants? Is anybody contributing to this public discussion beside the far-right? Germany is toying around with some good and useful programs to get people into apprenticeships and jobs that should also benefit unskilled long-term residents and could really bring the country forward as a result, but at the same time for every cool idea I read someone else demands to make burkas illegal or there's a mildly horrifying poll, so this remains a bit of a nailbiter. At least we have lots of money and a decent labor market situation compared to the not-too-distant past.
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# ? Sep 14, 2016 23:58 |
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Cat Mattress posted:France provides the troops, Germany provides the money to buy new materiel because holy gently caress the Transalls and VABs should have been replaced like a decade ago and the navy is supposed to have two aircraft carriers so that one remains available when the first undergoes maintenance. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Sep 15, 2016 |
# ? Sep 15, 2016 07:38 |
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Toplowtech posted:Part of the deal also involves the french army replacing its main rifle (famas) with the H&K m14 equivalent(the hk416 i believe). Some people are already bitching. There will always be bitching in the military. icantfindaname posted:so basically France is going to absorb the pathetic joke that is the Bundeswehr, and immediately send them all to Africa on 'peacekeeping' missions to keep the natives in line? The way the world is going, our peacekeeping-missions will be in East or Southern Europe
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 08:05 |
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icantfindaname posted:so basically France is going to absorb the pathetic joke that is the Bundeswehr, and immediately send them all to Africa on 'peacekeeping' missions to keep the natives in line? stop the french oppression of mali! lol
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 08:07 |
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Iggore posted:No, no, I'm not asking "are they gonna have immigrants or not", I'm asking "are they gonna do it right or not". The Calais camp exists because the people there don't want to stay in France, but can't get into Britain either. So, what is going on in Calais is a separate issue from how those who are registered and participating in whatever integration measures their host country is taking are doing.
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 08:11 |
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Interesting article from 2011, doesn't seem things have changed much since 2011... Are we in some kind of limbo, is this hell? http://fortune.com/2011/11/14/why-germany-needs-the-euro/
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 08:14 |
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doverhog posted:The Calais camp exists because the people there don't want to stay in France, but can't get into Britain either. So, what is going on in Calais is a separate issue from how those who are registered and participating in whatever integration measures their host country is taking are doing. Half of them actually want to stay in France now.
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 08:30 |
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Riso posted:Half of them actually want to stay in France now. Less "want to stay in France" and more "want to stop waiting before they can try to rebuild their live".
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 12:24 |
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https://twitter.com/LondonerVince/status/776397399912751104 come on nicolas you can get that 2% swing do eeeeeet
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 13:38 |
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Germany migrants: Residents battle asylum seekers in Bautzen quote:Residents have clashed with asylum seekers in a town in eastern Germany that has become a flashpoint for anti-refugee sentiment. C'mon guys that's not even a fair fight
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 14:33 |
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Makes a change from the usual way around where it's 50 antifa against half a dozen fascists. A poo poo change, is still a change.
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 14:45 |
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Guavanaut posted:Makes a change from the usual way around where it's 50 antifa against half a dozen fascists. I'd guess in Bautzen it was always like this, though. Was sagt eine Ostdeutsche Mutter wenn sie ihren Sohn besucht? "Ich geh mal nach dem Rechten sehen."
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 16:20 |
It should be pointed out that police reports state that the refugees attacked the Germans first. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/bautzen-fluechtlinge-griffen-laut-polizei-betrunkene-rechte-an-a-1112485.html quote:Eine Gruppe von 15 bis 20 unbegleiteten minderjährigen Flüchtlingen habe mit Flaschen und Holzlatten eine größere Gruppe, die zum Großteil dem politisch rechten Spektrum angehören, auf dem Platz angegriffen, sagte Uwe Kilz, Leiter des Polizeireviers Bautzen, bei einer Pressekonferenz.
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 16:21 |
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On the one hand 80 people from the right spectrum just happening to hang out on that square where the refugee kids were seems like one hell of a coincidence, on the other hand this is loving Bautzen we're talking about here. e: yep, Nazis were looking for trouble: https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article158176178/Heut-Abend-is-wieder-Asylis-klatschen.html Some pretty gnarly quotes in that article. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Sep 15, 2016 |
# ? Sep 15, 2016 22:15 |
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So this european army, what will it be designated as? The Ostlegionen? Or maybe the european schutzstaffel?
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# ? Sep 15, 2016 23:37 |
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doverhog posted:The Calais camp exists because the people there don't want to stay in France, but can't get into Britain either. So, what is going on in Calais is a separate issue from how those who are registered and participating in whatever integration measures their host country is taking are doing. The population of the Calais Jungle is swelling rapidly. Maybe there is a link between migrants choosing to live there in order to get into Britain and the quality and the prospects of the integration programs in France and elsewhere in Europe. It might be caused by the lack of uniformity of integration programs in Europe. Also the lawlessness of the Calais Jungle seems to highlight the reluctance of France to try and proactively manage this population. I read about this plan to relocate the Calais migrant population in different regions of France in smaller numbers: 300 here, 600 there. It's distressing because it wont solve anything since there's no reason to believe that the new host prefectures will be better able to manage the situation, and also because the relocated migrants are free to return to Calais if so they wish. aphid_licker posted:Germany is toying around with some good and useful programs to get people into apprenticeships and jobs that should also benefit unskilled long-term residents and could really bring the country forward as a result, but at the same time for every cool idea I read someone else demands to make burkas illegal or there's a mildly horrifying poll, so this remains a bit of a nailbiter. At least we have lots of money and a decent labor market situation compared to the not-too-distant past. Apparently, around 150 refugees were hired so far, on the million that have arrived since 2015. This might be surprisingly bad, since the unemployment rate is at its lowest in Germany since the 90s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkBky29aVg quote:La Chancelière allemande, dont l'avenir électoral est menacé par sa politique de porte ouverte, s'inquiète de voir que sur plus d'un million de réfugiés, seuls 152 ont été recrutés par les sociétés du Dax, dont une centaine, soit les deux tiers, par la seule Deutsche Post." Maybe the reason why people are vocally and now physically opposed to the settlement of migrants, is that they perceive the whole thing to be badly managed. I guess it is easier to open the gates than to put so many refugees and migrants to good use. The whole effort seems so half-hearted, at best, on the part of most governments. Iggore fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Sep 16, 2016 |
# ? Sep 16, 2016 00:52 |
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The 150 is just for the 30 DAX companies. The actual employment numbers are unknown and for example an estimated 30% are working in illegal cash-in-hand jobs, which is ofc not very good for its own reasons.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 08:20 |
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there is also the fact that depending on status they might be forbidden from seeking jobs they are refugess, not immigrants
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 08:48 |
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The US has whacked Deutsche Bank with a $14bn fine, and there are suggestions that it's (in part) a tit-for-tat retaliatory strike against the EU fining Apple, which would make things interesting. https://www.ft.com/content/28534ee2-7b95-11e6-ae24-f193b105145e quote:Deutsche Bank shares fell sharply on Friday as Germany’s biggest bank sought to downplay the chances of paying $14bn to settle allegations of mis-selling mortgage securities after receiving an unexpectedly large claim from the US Department of Justice.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 08:52 |
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I don't think the US need a casus belli before fining euro banks. See BNP Paribas.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 08:58 |
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The Real Foogla posted:
The only thing they are is people waiting for their asylum application to be processed. The majority will be illegal immigrants but stay anyway because their home countries don't want to take them back.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 09:29 |
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We should really just get it over with and nationalize all American holdings in Europe. They can do the same for European holdings in the US.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 16:16 |
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The EU did not fine Apple nor Ireland, though. So it's mere political strongmanship and not a retribution.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 16:57 |
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Riso posted:The only thing they are is people waiting for their asylum application to be processed. Why are they staying in Calais, in terrible conditions, if they no longer are trying to cross to Britain? Is all of France just as terrible, or what?
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 17:08 |
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doverhog posted:Why are they staying in Calais, in terrible conditions, if they no longer are trying to cross to Britain? Is all of France just as terrible, or what? Presumably many of them only have friends/family in Calais, and they have nowhere else to go with any kind of social support available?
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 17:12 |
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doverhog posted:Why are they staying in Calais, in terrible conditions, if they no longer are trying to cross to Britain? Is all of France just as terrible, or what? The ones in Calais have been granted asylum in France already. They just want to go to Britain instead.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 18:36 |
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Riso posted:The ones in Calais have been granted asylum in France already. They just want to go to Britain instead. Lol no they haven't.
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# ? Sep 16, 2016 19:39 |
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On the topic of Calais, poo poo seems to be getting wild. Truckers are now ambushed on a daily basis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPFTAHXnO04
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Oh my god the comment field
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