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Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

I don't think we should joke about butt death tbh.

Also the property tax thing was in Governing magazine last week. In Texas it's just another facet of how hosed up our property tax system is.

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Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
Rick Perry's first episode of Dancing With the Stars is on atm.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/denied/

This state is a magical place.

DangerZoneDelux
Jul 26, 2006

That lines up with my friend who is a SPED teacher at a lower income school in Lamar ISD saying he had a couple of new students a few years who were kicked out from Katy ISD, I told him that sounds like the parents not understanding since that wasn't legal. drat, I guess I was wrong

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
Holy poo poo, why are the districts fellating those standards?!

WTF posted:

A Dallas ISD spokeswoman defended that district's low percentage by noting it "falls within the Texas state acceptable range of 0%-8.5%."

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Holy poo poo, why are the districts fellating those standards?!

Because the state is threatening to cost them a lot of money, make their lives miserable, or even take over (which usually involves firing a ton of high administration positions) if they don't:

quote:

Districts that scored poorly on the PBMAS could be fined, visited by regulators, compelled to complete "Corrective Action Plans" or taken over entirely, the system manual said.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
Doesn't mean they can't professionally voice their disapproval while still following those rules.

Like, "We are obligated to follow those standards as a district, though we don't agree with them"

Watermelon Daiquiri fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Sep 13, 2016

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

If anyone is wondering, he was really stiff and got the worst scores of the night. (All 5s.) The highlight was the Corndog booth behind him being labeled "Rick's Corndogs."

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
The rumors are true!

It's OK I'm allowed to say this.

Spacebump posted:

The highlight was the Corndog booth behind him being labeled "Rick's Corndogs."
Oh my God.

BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Sep 13, 2016

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

Well, so much for him running against Ted Cruz for senate.

Lake of Methane
Oct 29, 2011



:thejoke:

Still … jeez.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Sent my mother that Houston Chronicle article, she is a 3rd grade teacher at a very lovely school.

quote:

Excellent article. I believe it. It takes forever to get a student tested. They don't get the help they need and the rest of the students suffer because they need too much teacher time. Our hands are tied. Then we hire idiot people like ------- and associates that say that sped kids need to be in the regular classroom and that we have too many sped teachers and aides. Morons.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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go3 posted:

Sent my mother that Houston Chronicle article, she is a 3rd grade teacher at a very lovely school.

My mother is also an elementary schoolteacher, and she's been complaining for years that her school has been aggressively trying to put higher functioning down's syndrome kids into normal classrooms. Apparently every year the "high functioning" bar gets a little bit lower and it's getting harder and harder to deal with without any help from special ed aides.

Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Sep 13, 2016

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Nthing the 'my momma said' about this. She has been complaining about the handling of special ed for the last 20+ years and they keep coming up with new ways to make it worse.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

It's massively more expensive to educate a special ed kid, even with our current inadequate formula, so I don't see what the shock is here. The alternative to doing this is raising taxes to pay for better special education.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

zoux posted:

It's massively more expensive to educate a special ed kid, even with our current inadequate formula, so I don't see what the shock is here. The alternative to doing this is raising taxes to pay for better special education.

Which is a thing we should do.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

We won't

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

zoux posted:

We won't

We do. Texas is the one bucking the trend

E: Granted, the South in general is bucking the trend, mostly because of moronic politicians who think that disorders are just the result of not being hit with a belt enough

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Sep 13, 2016

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


I just want to say that absentee voting in this state is pretty messed up. I'm going to be away at sea from 3 Oct to 11 December, and so need to vote by mail, but they'll only mail my absentee ballot to an address outside my county, even though I'm going to be in county at my residence until the day I leave. All they offered for solutions was a shady sounding workaround where they email me my ballot even though I've put my mailing address in county, and I dunno that just sounds like grounds to have some dick somewhere toss my ballot out on a technicality. What a terrible system. I'm going to have to have it mailed to my parents and have them turn around and mail it to me, and that's unnecessarily complicated.

JUST MAKING CHILI
Feb 14, 2008

zoux posted:

It's massively more expensive to educate a special ed kid, even with our current inadequate formula, so I don't see what the shock is here. The alternative to doing this is raising taxes to pay for better special education.

The epitome of penny wise and pound foolish. How many of these sped kids are from minority populations and will end up in the state's care because of this lack of education funding?

Oh I know how to solve that problem - privatize prisons!

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
This current topic just hit home in a big way.

I'm a high school teacher, and since I teach on-level classes I get a lot of mainstreamed Special Ed students. I'm supposed to modify their assignments and tests for their level, and differentiate instruction to their needs. Which is a challenge, as I'm a pretty new teacher whose degree isn't in education, so I've never really had training on how to do that effectively. But that's okay, I'm learning.

What I just found out is that one of my ESL students has a serious learning disability, everyone knows it, but since she spent 18 months in a refugee camp with no schooling, SpEd gets to throw their hands up and claim it's not their problem. Must be the gap, must be the language issue. We won't even test her.

This is a kid who speaks and understands English pretty well, but her written language skills are basically nonexistent even in her native language. She cannot process written words. She tries - she tries so hard - but she cannot parse written language. She knows what it's supposed to look like, but everything she puts on paper is literally gibberish even when she uses a translator.

ESL knows this, and has tried for a year to get SpEd to test her. SpEd won't touch her case with a ten foot loving pole. Because they don't have to, because they can blame her ESL status, and the time she spent in a goddamn refugee loving camp as reasons why she can't learn.

The Special Education department in this school needs a righteous correctional rear end-whooping to remember why they exist. Not to fulfill a legal requirement, but to educate the students to the best of their loving ability. This isn't the first time I've had issues - I get basically no support or training for how to modify my assignments and my classroom support for these kids is one coach with no training either - and not even in all the classes I have SpEd students.

This turned into more of a rant on my specific situation than a contribution to the discussion, and I apologize for that, but goddammit learning about this student's situation made me angry today. They are leaving her twisting in the wind. There's not a snowball's chance in Hell she'll be able to pass the EOCs or get a diploma unless she gets some kind of support. But SpEd won't come near her case.

Makes me want to start slapping my way up the food chain until I get somebody to agree to fix this poo poo, but I'm not senior enough to get away with that.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


ReidRansom posted:

I just want to say that absentee voting in this state is pretty messed up. I'm going to be away at sea from 3 Oct to 11 December, and so need to vote by mail, but they'll only mail my absentee ballot to an address outside my county, even though I'm going to be in county at my residence until the day I leave. All they offered for solutions was a shady sounding workaround where they email me my ballot even though I've put my mailing address in county, and I dunno that just sounds like grounds to have some dick somewhere toss my ballot out on a technicality. What a terrible system. I'm going to have to have it mailed to my parents and have them turn around and mail it to me, and that's unnecessarily complicated.

Well of course it has to be difficult, if they made it easy to vote there might more :airquote:voter fraud. :airquote:

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Lemniscate Blue posted:

This current topic just hit home in a big way.

I'm a high school teacher, and since I teach on-level classes I get a lot of mainstreamed Special Ed students. I'm supposed to modify their assignments and tests for their level, and differentiate instruction to their needs. Which is a challenge, as I'm a pretty new teacher whose degree isn't in education, so I've never really had training on how to do that effectively. But that's okay, I'm learning.

What I just found out is that one of my ESL students has a serious learning disability, everyone knows it, but since she spent 18 months in a refugee camp with no schooling, SpEd gets to throw their hands up and claim it's not their problem. Must be the gap, must be the language issue. We won't even test her.

This is a kid who speaks and understands English pretty well, but her written language skills are basically nonexistent even in her native language. She cannot process written words. She tries - she tries so hard - but she cannot parse written language. She knows what it's supposed to look like, but everything she puts on paper is literally gibberish even when she uses a translator.

ESL knows this, and has tried for a year to get SpEd to test her. SpEd won't touch her case with a ten foot loving pole. Because they don't have to, because they can blame her ESL status, and the time she spent in a goddamn refugee loving camp as reasons why she can't learn.

The Special Education department in this school needs a righteous correctional rear end-whooping to remember why they exist. Not to fulfill a legal requirement, but to educate the students to the best of their loving ability. This isn't the first time I've had issues - I get basically no support or training for how to modify my assignments and my classroom support for these kids is one coach with no training either - and not even in all the classes I have SpEd students.

This turned into more of a rant on my specific situation than a contribution to the discussion, and I apologize for that, but goddammit learning about this student's situation made me angry today. They are leaving her twisting in the wind. There's not a snowball's chance in Hell she'll be able to pass the EOCs or get a diploma unless she gets some kind of support. But SpEd won't come near her case.

Makes me want to start slapping my way up the food chain until I get somebody to agree to fix this poo poo, but I'm not senior enough to get away with that.

God bless you for the job you're doing. Hang in there.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I taught in a school that had a one-hour-per-day sped/regular classroom integration. It's essentially a lost hour. The school itself was an elementary school but the special ed department was open to anyone under 18, which created massive problems and dangerous situations.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Aliquid posted:

The school itself was an elementary school but the special ed department was open to anyone under 18, which created massive problems and dangerous situations.

Hey, this sounds like the worst idea anyone's ever had ever.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

Lemniscate Blue posted:

This turned into more of a rant on my specific situation than a contribution to the discussion, and I apologize for that, but goddammit learning about this student's situation made me angry today. They are leaving her twisting in the wind. There's not a snowball's chance in Hell she'll be able to pass the EOCs or get a diploma unless she gets some kind of support. But SpEd won't come near her case.

Makes me want to start slapping my way up the food chain until I get somebody to agree to fix this poo poo, but I'm not senior enough to get away with that.

Yeah, this kind of think sucks and is far too common. It sounds like your student would have been tested under TELPAS for at least a year. Assuming he/she has shown improvements (or was rated advanced/advanced high) in the areas other than reading/writing (so speaking and listening) in that time, you can and should absolutely make a case for SPED testing, SPED department be damned. If need be, get your local union teacher organization involved, because you have a legal case.

http://texasprojectfirst.org/ReferralProcess.html

Assuming you can get the parents to consent, the school has to comply within 15 days or give a legal reason why they won't. If you support it with documentation of TELPAS improvements/high scores their hand will be forced. (FYI I'm a teacher not a lawyer though)

The EOC thing is also a can of worms. They recently made it where they don't give students their required modifications (accommodations are still given, mostly, on the computer-based version though) for the state testing of SPED/504 students. While the students don't generally have to pass to graduate like other students, their scores do get averaged in with all other students with no qualifiers. Given the amount of pressure the state puts on districts for testing scores, you can imagine where that leads districts.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

So I moved and in changing address I had to update my voter registration.

In filling out the voter registration change of address it required me to state Dem/Rep/Indep/Other for the first time that I can ever remember. Is it just me or is this a new thing? I don't recall even having the option to register as with a party in the past, you only had to declare which primary you were voting in if you were voting in one.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Zwabu posted:

So I moved and in changing address I had to update my voter registration.

In filling out the voter registration change of address it required me to state Dem/Rep/Indep/Other for the first time that I can ever remember. Is it just me or is this a new thing? I don't recall even having the option to register as with a party in the past, you only had to declare which primary you were voting in if you were voting in one.

It got added to help with future gerrymandering and disenfranchisement planning meetings.

Though I had to change mine in 2012 and don't remover something like that on the form.

Don't see it on the online form either, may be a county form then that had that.

https://tax-office.traviscountytx.gov/images/tax_assessor/pdfs/voters/VR_Application.pdf

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Zwabu posted:

So I moved and in changing address I had to update my voter registration.

In filling out the voter registration change of address it required me to state Dem/Rep/Indep/Other for the first time that I can ever remember. Is it just me or is this a new thing? I don't recall even having the option to register as with a party in the past, you only had to declare which primary you were voting in if you were voting in one.

I just changed my voter registration address online and didn't have to do any of that. But then mine was just an in-county move and I did it online, so who knows.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

I just changed mine by mail to a different county and it didn't ask anything about that. Didn't even know that was legal.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Yeah that all sounds mighty fishy. Voter registration is all state-level laws, there shouldn't be any variation in what they're asking or requiring county to county. It might not be a bad idea to contact some friendly organization that deals with election law just in case.

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet
To add to teacherchat, my mother taught MI (multiply impaired, the severe SPED) for ~20 years in Houston and San Marcos, and even before she retired 3-4 years ago, they were trying to push IEPs and standardized "testing" on her classes, which were largely full of kids that couldn't even feed themselves, let alone do any sort of normal school activities. These aren't your high-functioning :spergin: and Downs, this was cerebral palsy and hardcore non-verbal autism and any number of major neurological and physical disabilities. She's raged against the state of special ed in schools for decades and yet continues to vote straight-ticket Republican all her days. :sigh:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

TheKennedys posted:

To add to teacherchat, my mother taught MI (multiply impaired, the severe SPED) for ~20 years in Houston and San Marcos, and even before she retired 3-4 years ago, they were trying to push IEPs and standardized "testing" on her classes, which were largely full of kids that couldn't even feed themselves, let alone do any sort of normal school activities. These aren't your high-functioning :spergin: and Downs, this was cerebral palsy and hardcore non-verbal autism and any number of major neurological and physical disabilities. She's raged against the state of special ed in schools for decades and yet continues to vote straight-ticket Republican all her days. :sigh:

Haha, a teacher in Texas voting Republican. Shameful

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet

PostNouveau posted:

Haha, a teacher in Texas voting Republican. Shameful

Actually I goofed, she voted for Ross Perot twice. Otherwise she's an old-school Reagan Republican, yet will push that big red DONALD TRUMP button this year because she's old and white. I've heard her talking about the Kennedy assassination in terms of "Oh, I'm surprised nobody's tried anything with that guy we've got in there now! He's just so out there." Verbatim. I love my mother, she was a fantastic teacher and has been a great mom and grandma but she's 70 and old people are the worst voters.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

People in the Metroplex are hosed up.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-stadium-arms-race-snap-story.html

quote:

On Fridays the football faithful gather, setting up grills and tailgating for hours in a vast parking lot before packing into the stadium built with rose-colored brick.

The high-definition video screen towering over one end zone magnifies their favorite players, and the three-tier press box offers a panorama of the field below.

The cost: $60 million.

The home team: The Eagles of Allen High School.

In bigger-is-better Texas, Eagle Stadium, which rivals Staples Center in capacity with 18,000 seats, gives the suburban Dallas high school serious bragging rights. But in the battle of one-upmanship among Texas high schools, a challenger is rising close to home.

The school district just up the street in McKinney plans to break ground within a month on a nearly $70-million stadium — the newest competitor in a spend-off critics call a stadium arms race.

“Oh, it’s a rivalry,” said Adam Blanchet, a junior at McKinney North, one of the three high schools in the McKinney Independent School District that will use the new stadium. “I have pride knowing my district is going to have the most expensive stadium in the country.”

Also I can't believe Allen ISD didn't sell the naming rights to that stadium.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i can't wait to vote against this prick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUfXujs8Abs

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Aliquid posted:

Texas Politics: i can't wait to vote against this prick

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e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

MariusLecter posted:

Aliquid posted:

Texas Politics: i can't wait to vote against this prick

loving cosigned.

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