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Bullfrog posted:So many of my former Bernie-supporting friends are crawling out of the woodwork for Gary Johnson right now and it is infuriating. The worst part is their immense smugness. I've seen a distressing number of Bernie supporters on Reddit that are now in the tank for Johnson or Stein and it is just infuriating. Third party voters have got to be the dumbest part of the electorate. Even dumber than Trump voters. At least Trump voters know what they want (racism and xenophobia) and are doing something that could actually accomplish it. "Strategic voting" is something that is totally lost on them and in fact even regarded as a sin. There is no reasoning with these people.
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vyelkin posted:No, Trump's gone up about 4 points over the last month while Clinton has dropped about 2 points. A lot of Trump's rise in the polls over the last month was disaffected Republicans deciding they would back him after all. It's possible that bad coverage of Trump will drive some of them away from him again. I still can't get over the fact that Clinton held that Reno speech in an effort to woo disaffected Republicans and to give them cover to jump ship and the exact opposite has happened. Instead of Republican establishment figures standing up and going "Yeah, this poo poo is not cool", they just decided to The Democrats need to nail them on that cross for a generation.
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GalacticAcid posted:Retards post on Reddit?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Uh, what? To the left of the Democrats? This, right here, is why I'm not happy with Bernie and the particulars of why he failed. It would be a tragedy for the country if neoliberals get to define leftists as "idiots who think that the only thing that matters is class struggle and who ignore intersectionality or minority issues."
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Sep 17, 2016 23:55
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Johnson not being in the debates will hurt his poll numbers by default.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Johnson not being in the debates will hurt his poll numbers by default.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Just had a guy knock on my door asking me to sign a petition against transgendered people. I live in deep blue MA. Unfortunately I didn't do any STDH.txt I just said no and wished him a good evening. He had a real nice crucifex necklace. Against how? Like, their rights or their existence or ? "Sir, could you sign this petition against clouds"
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Antti posted:I still can't get over the fact that Clinton held that Reno speech in an effort to woo disaffected Republicans and to give them cover to jump ship and the exact opposite has happened. Instead of Republican establishment figures standing up and going "Yeah, this poo poo is not cool", they just decided to Kasich was already on after the cnn debacle telling people not to back Trump so maybe there's some play to that the dumber he acts I mean it's not 11th dimensional chess or anything, you take a shot to see what happens and it could pay off later rather than right away
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straight up brolic posted:but then again, Johnson debating would also hurt his poll numbers. #Catch22 But would it? Johnson's "what is Aleppo?" gaffe made him look like an idiot but it also resulted in a lot of media exposure for him and I'm pretty sure it actually helped his poll numbers. Putting him on a stage in front of millions of people would make him look like a fool but it would also spread his message in a way he is incapable of as a political nobody. I mean just look at Trump.
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Clinton has promised to support an amendment against Citizens United, something that Bernie supporters should be happy about. Anyone who supported Bernie and now is supporting Johnson has no political coherency whatsoever. Clinton is a thousand times closer policy-wise to Bernie than the Libertarian candidate. I guess she's a woman though...
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Just had a guy knock on my door asking me to sign a petition against transgendered people. I live in deep blue MA. Unfortunately I didn't do any STDH.txt I just said no and wished him a good evening. He had a real nice crucifex necklace. not gonna lie, i've been pretty worried about trans people being used as a wedge issue this election cycle.
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Instant Sunrise posted:not gonna lie, i've been pretty worried about trans people being used as a wedge issue this election cycle. The backlash against HB2 put an end to that, though I'm surprised the Democrats haven't used it
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Against how? Like, their rights or their existence or ? Apparently they're going into our bathrooms and raping our children.
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lozzle posted:I've seen a distressing number of Bernie supporters on Reddit that are now in the tank for Johnson or Stein and it is just infuriating. Third party voters have got to be the dumbest part of the electorate. Even dumber than Trump voters. At least Trump voters know what they want (racism and xenophobia) and are doing something that could actually accomplish it. Someone switching from Bernie to Stein can at least (try) to argue about going with a liberal. The ones who went from Bernie to Johnson are the assholes who want to vote for an outsider, and never actually cared about Bernie's positions, just that he argued something out of the norm. There are a lot of assholes who just want to use their vote to show how the rest of us are just sheeple (see Paul, Ron). There is nothing similar between Bernie and Johnson other than being angry white guys. I'm not saying that this is true of all Bernie folks, but there were many people who were there for the show, not the politics.
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GalacticAcid posted:Come on, did you really buy the central conceit of objecting to the word "Vice" on religious grounds? It's obviously not real. And Borowitz sentenced to lingchi
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straight up brolic posted:people just want to seem smart, woke, and above the fray by choosing a candidate out of the mainstream. Maybe they can even talk about their study abroad and how the two-party system is flawed. The good thing about the "look at me I'm an independent, please acknowledge my deep thoughts" phenomenon is that third parties poll significantly higher than they actually perform at the ballot box. Turns out you can vote for the actual candidate you want to win while telling everyone you voted for someone else!
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I still cannot believe that he's really stuck with "Crooked Hillary." Like it wasn't just a one off thing it's how he refers to her at all times. That blows my mind.
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straight up brolic posted:Trump is threatening to sue the NY Times lmao I love how Trump's immediate reaction is "threaten to sue" because he's used to using that tactic on smaller businesses/press and shutting them up for fear of crushing legal fees. The NYT can basically go  and then crush him under their heel.
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straight up brolic posted:Trump is threatening to sue the NY Times lmao Trump has never heard of New York Times v. Sullivan, and probably wouldn't even recognize that it was a Supreme Court case if he read its name. I mean it's named after the very organization he's threatening to sue for Christ's sake!
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Chokes McGee posted:I love how Trump's immediate reaction is "threaten to sue" because he's used to using that tactic on smaller businesses/press and shutting them up for fear of crushing legal fees. Especially since Trump isn't as rich as he claims to be.
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straight up brolic posted:Trump is threatening to sue the NY Times lmao Oh please oh please oh PLEASE sue New York Times. Please sue a group that has enough financial and legal means to grind you into dust.
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lozzle posted:Trump has never heard of New York Times v. Sullivan, and probably wouldn't even recognize that it was a Supreme Court case if he read its name. On the contrary - he does, and one of the few pieces of policy he has set in stone is trying to get Sullivan reversed.
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My war was 70 years ago, and yesterday Jesus
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hasn't the NYT been fairly pro Trump overall anyway? They've written a few articles about how poo poo his organization is, but mainly they just have the biggest loving hate on for Hillary
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I still cannot believe that he's really stuck with "Crooked Hillary." Like it wasn't just a one off thing it's how he refers to her at all times. That blows my mind. What are the odds he uncorks it at least once during the debates? Any other candidate, I'd say 'not a shot,' but we're way past that.
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straight up brolic posted:Please someone in the media ask a follow up "so do you not think muslim's deserve the same basic human rights as Christians?" Error: making the perpetrators of 9/11 equal to the majority of Americans is a false equivolence
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Trump will literally gut the first amendment and sue into the ground/jail dissident reporters. Which would be anyone who dared level any form of criticism against him. Journalism is facing a real existential crisis. And still they won't loving fight him about it.
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MonkeyOnFire posted:What are the odds he uncorks it at least once during the debates? Any other candidate, I'd say 'not a shot,' but we're way past that. My hope is that he just straight up calls her a oval office, in stage, live, as an interruption, while she is fact checking him.
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