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I kinda want one.
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The real ones from the episode were probably auctioned off for $10,000 each
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 03:58 |
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Here are some very excellent, correct opinions about The Voyager Home: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/20/star-trek-iv-voyage-home-leonard-nimoy
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 04:07 |
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showbiz_liz posted:Actually you know what, gently caress it, they should just lean into the whole 'no budget' thing and slavishly imitate the original show aesthetic, like to the point of making all the rocks out of expanding foam. To be fair, this is what a lot of the fan films were doing, and they showed you could pull off a period accurate show to TOS with the same sets, costumes, lighting, props, sound effects, music, and visual effects on a shoestring budget thanks to modern consumer technology. It would be cheap as hell to do a "modern" pre-TOS show that was authentic, though it would tank in the ratings because nobody would watch it besides King Nerds (of which I am one). That said, the $5M per episode figure for Enterprise being thrown around is probably not equal to what you could do on today's visual effects budgets. They've come a long way and are a lot cheaper. You could probably make Enterprise today for a lot less. Also if they don't get a big name like Bakula, they will save somewhat on actor salaries.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 04:07 |
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Astroman posted:To be fair, this is what a lot of the fan films were doing, and they showed you could pull off a period accurate show to TOS with the same sets, costumes, lighting, props, sound effects, music, and visual effects on a shoestring budget thanks to modern consumer technology. It would be cheap as hell to do a "modern" pre-TOS show that was authentic, though it would tank in the ratings because nobody would watch it besides King Nerds (of which I am one). There's a tremendous amount of free labour in these fan projects, though.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 04:25 |
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The Dark One posted:There's a tremendous amount of free labour in these fan projects, though. Not in Axanar!
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 04:41 |
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I'm just going to count STD lucky if CBS springs for the budget to build an actual physical set. If the show doesn't have a decent budget I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a green screen suck fest like Sanctuary.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 06:19 |
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Happy Birthday, Enterprise! Rollout was forty years ago today:
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 07:32 |
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Fun fact. The kid who played Tommy in "The Children Shall Lead" later went on to invent the Blaster Beam which gave ST:TMP its distinctive soundtrack.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 08:13 |
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Voyager is still a pile of garbage but I genuinely enjoy Tim Russ in every scene he's in. Tuvok is the undisputed snark master of Trek. Is there an episode that features Tuvok and the Doctor prominently?
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 08:35 |
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8one6 posted:I'm just going to count STD lucky if CBS springs for the budget to build an actual physical set. If the show doesn't have a decent budget I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a green screen suck fest like Sanctuary. I think Fuller at one point tweeted a photo of the captain's chair in construction. Yep: https://twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/755178837894270977
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 20:44 |
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The Dark One posted:Here are some very excellent, correct opinions about The Voyager Home: Good article
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 21:17 |
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It really is. And it makes me kind of sad for modern Trek movies, they all try to recapture Wrath of Khan in one way or another. But pre-internet, Voyage Home always struck me as the Star Trek movie. The one everybody knew and everybody loved, it used to get crazy broadcast replay. I wish someone would take some influence from it for a change.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 21:31 |
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Powered Descent posted:Happy Birthday, Enterprise! Rollout was forty years ago today: Also, Walter Koeing is not impressed.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 21:38 |
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Knormal posted:Also, Walter Koeing is not impressed. Eh, it's good, but nothing like the cosmonauts have back in Russia.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 21:39 |
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WickedHate posted:Eh, it's good, but nothing like the cosmonauts have back in Russia. From what I have heard, there actually was decent argument for Russia's Buran Space Shuttle on certain grounds, though it obviously didn't get much use due to political upheaval at the time, and was mothballed when the government collapsed. http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a9763/did-the-soviets-actually-build-a-better-space-shuttle-16176311/ http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160412-soviet-union-space-shuttle-buran-cosmonaut-day-gagarin/ http://www.popsci.com/why-soviet-space-shuttle-was-left-rot?image=5 Oooh, urban exploration pics. http://www.businessinsider.com/phot...in-this-room-24 remusclaw fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Sep 17, 2016 |
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Powered Descent posted:Happy Birthday, Enterprise! Rollout was forty years ago today:
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 21:57 |
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remusclaw posted:From what I have heard, there actually was decent argument for Russia's Buran Space Shuttle on certain grounds, though it obviously didn't get much use due to political upheaval at the time, and was mothballed when the government collapsed. There's an entire Spaceflight Megathread for this kind of thing, but I have to warn you that the topic of Buran vs. Shuttle always turns into a stupid, stupid slapfight.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 21:58 |
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remusclaw posted:...Russia's Buran Space Shuttle ... Those are amazing!
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 21:59 |
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Powered Descent posted:There's an entire Spaceflight Megathread for this kind of thing, but I have to warn you that the topic of Buran vs. Shuttle always turns into a stupid, stupid slapfight. Understood. Just passing on some cool stuff I remember from what was likely some kind of derail. I have no where near any level of expertise on the matter and was parroting a Popular Science article. Will definitely look into that thread though. Thanks.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 22:01 |
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The Dark One posted:Here are some very excellent, correct opinions about The Voyager Home: I watched this recently and was surprised by how much more I love it now. I used to think it was good, but in light of the new Trek movies, this is the one that was the best wide-audience film, and it was actually good. I haven't seen Beyond, but come on.
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 22:42 |
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I can't make up my mind whether "The Empath" is great or terrible. Plus, Bones naming her "Gem" while there with Jim is super loving weird.
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cenotaph posted:Good article I agree, but the author kind of overreaches right at the end: quote:Nimoy died last year, age 82: A long life, and prosperous. Spock will live forever, of course — and The Voyage Home is his magnum opus. Quickly, listen to the theme music for Voyage Home by Leonard Rosenman. Yeah no, sorry man, that theme was Rosenman recycling his failed and overblown score for the Ralph Bakshi Lord of the Rings movie several years earlier. It was a poor fit for LotR and not much better for Star Trek. And there's certainly nothing thematic to be read in its "exuberance". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0DvOMdQFBE
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# ? Sep 17, 2016 23:36 |
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Data Graham posted:I agree, but the author kind of overreaches right at the end: I want to say he tried recycling it a third time, but I can't remember for what movie. I could be wrong.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 00:06 |
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McNally posted:I want to say he tried recycling it a third time, but I can't remember for what movie. I could be wrong. Robocop 2?
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Robocop 2? YESS that was it.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:I can't make up my mind whether "The Empath" is great or terrible. The Empath sucks. It aims for minimalism but only looks cheap and dull. It's just not an exciting hour of tv. It's not ridiculously terrible like Alternative Factor or And the Children Shall Lead, it's just weak and boring. I can see why Kelley liked it so much since the treatment of McCoy's character is a little unusual, but for me it's totally lacking in tension because we know as always the main characters won't be permanently harmed and Gem herself is such a non-entity. It's one of the worse third season episodes in my opinion. I would legitimately rather watch Spock's Brain. It may be loving stupid, but it moves along at a good clip and has some really funny deliveries, intentionally or no. I can't think of a single concrete moment when I think of The Empath, just a bunch of people meandering around an empty set.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 00:14 |
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Yeah, The Empath is rumored to be the single cheapest episode of the whole show and is quite forgettable, even by third season bottle episode standards. I watched it less than six months ago and aside from the mute girl and the empty sets, I remember none of it.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 03:25 |
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remusclaw posted:Understood. Just passing on some cool stuff I remember from what was likely some kind of derail. I have no where near any level of expertise on the matter and was parroting a Popular Science article. Will definitely look into that thread though. Thanks. Buran had certain advantages and superior capabilities due to having been designed and built much later, having less ridiculous requirements loaded onto the design, and being able to look at the experience of the US shuttle program, but in other areas they still lagged behind US technology. Ultimately, though, none of it can make up for the fact that the giant reusable spaceplane as a concept was fundamentally flawed and ultimately a huge boondoggle, and Russia was just making their own copy as a reactionary move.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 04:11 |
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8one6 posted:I'm just going to count STD lucky if CBS springs for the budget to build an actual physical set. If the show doesn't have a decent budget I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a green screen suck fest like Sanctuary. I remember hearing that Syfy ran into serious issues trying to do BSG Blood and Chrome in all-greenscreen.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 04:46 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I remember hearing that Syfy ran into serious issues trying to do BSG Blood and Chrome in all-greenscreen. It looked really bad. Everything was blurry as poo poo to hide the cheapness of it.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 04:47 |
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Knormal posted:I'm so happy to see McCoy's disco medallion crosses over into the real world too, albeit not as majestic. Also Takei once again shows whether he's in the 1970s or the 23rd century, he will always be the best dressed. Tuck in that collar and you could wear that outfit today and look awesome.
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Tighclops posted:I'm actually really glad they stuck to the original VFX where possible in TNG because as much as I would sometimes like to see the stock footage punched up a bit, I wouldn't want to lose the memorable VFX shots (like the escape from the dyson sphere, for example) to a CG Enterprise D doing barrel rolls or whatever the gently caress they'd make her do now if they could MrJacobs posted:Why would the Enterprise have done barrel rolls?
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 05:35 |
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Astroman posted:Also Takei once again shows whether he's in the 1970s or the 23rd century, he will always be the best dressed. Tuck in that collar and you could wear that outfit today and look awesome. I just noticed something I'd never seen in that photo before; bearded James Doohan wearing what appears to be a Hawaiian shirt. ed: holy poo poo, it is. I'd love to see this in color Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Sep 18, 2016 |
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:This is how Discovery will be an anthology show; the cast of each episode will be supplimented by the promoted band, so one week has the Weeknd as a mysterious alien foe, and the next week has Imagine Dragons as the away team. I would watch this show. Zurui posted:
I was totally into Arrow until it became Felicity And Also Arrow Sometimes I Guess.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 06:08 |
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Started Voyager on August 11th. I now have three episodes left. Yikes.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 09:11 |
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Truly, its been a long road, getting from there to here...
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Rhyno posted:Started Voyager on August 11th. I now have three episodes left. I'd give you grief for not pacing yourself, but this might be the best way to get through it. I was going pretty strong for the past year but around Fair Haven, I hit a wall. I skipped it and got as far as Borg kids (which not that bad, all things considered), but the problem is that once you've given yourself permission to skip the dumb and boring episodes, there's really no reason to watch Voyager at all.
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Rhyno posted:Started Voyager on August 11th. I now have three episodes left. If you are self-harming or experiencing suicidal thoughts, please seek immediate treatment.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I just noticed something I'd never seen in that photo before; bearded James Doohan wearing what appears to be a Hawaiian shirt. A color photo could not contain that level of 70s!
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