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Google Maps disrupted the gently caress out of GPS Navigation thingies for cars
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 07:18 |
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# ? May 22, 2024 22:27 |
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MeruFM posted:Google disrupted how the internet worked oh my god there are people in the world too young to remember the internet before google.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 07:31 |
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FilthyImp posted:Google Maps disrupted the gently caress out of GPS Navigation thingies for cars I don't know that sudden, iterative progress counts as disruption. Moreover, they weirdly never licensed it to car manufacturers, or car manufacturers didn't want to pay for it, so we still live in a world with lovely rear end car GPS systems even though everyone's phone has a better one.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 07:34 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:oh my god there are people in the world too young to remember the internet before google.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 07:35 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:oh my god there are people in the world too young to remember the internet before google. I no joke gave up on the internet for years in the mid-'90s because I couldn't for the life of me find enough to engage me there with a combination of Altavista, Lycos, Yahoo, and others I no longer remember. After getting back online, for years after that IRC was most of what I would do there.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 07:35 |
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^^^ The Internet was a weird little place back then. Half the fun was finding these weird little corners of it, but I think it's easy to forget just how limited it was due to non-broadband speeds and sub-Ghz computer processors. poo poo like waiting for your rad as gently caress GIFs to render, or being unable to run AIM, ICQ, your browser and WinAmp simultaneously really boxed you in. It was really a communication or information resource first. Dr. Fishopolis posted:I don't know that sudden, iterative progress counts as disruption.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 09:05 |
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Altavista has been doing exactly what google did for a few years at least, except they didn't have as smart of page rank algorithm. Had some advantages early on though, like you could search for text that was nearby something else, to ensure it isn't completely unrelated. Google nowadays will return pages that don't even contain the searched words For Maps vs GPS, there's been plenty of maps on phones/PDAs before Android even existed, it's just that none of those reached a critical mass, Maps still suck as navigation though, I have no idea how they still haven't figured out loving tunnels while Here manages them perfectly.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 09:24 |
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Metacrawler was where it was at before Google. Basically there were a handful of search engines that had algorithms and user experiences that were at least marginally better than Yahoo, etc. Google did it the best, and then kept doing it better and better.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 09:28 |
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mobby_6kl posted:For Maps vs GPS, there's been plenty of maps on phones/PDAs before Android even existed, it's just that none of those reached a critical mass Or you could pay Verizon 's lovely monthly fee (or $5 day-use fee charged conveniently to your account) to use their wap-driven, weirdly coded GPS Nav program that didn't have accurate maps. Or just use your phone's wireless data plan/WiFi to call up basically a web page to point you where you need to go. Simple.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 09:36 |
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Or just install Microsoft Streets and Trips on your laptop!
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 10:54 |
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MeruFM posted:Google disrupted how the internet worked There were search engines before Google. Lycos, Altavista, Hotbot, etc. Dr. Fishopolis posted:I don't know that sudden, iterative progress counts as disruption. Moreover, they weirdly never licensed it to car manufacturers, or car manufacturers didn't want to pay for it, so we still live in a world with lovely rear end car GPS systems even though everyone's phone has a better one. My car uses Google maps, though it does custom navigation tweaks so it doesn't pick routes quite as well.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 12:41 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:oh my god there are people in the world too young to remember the internet before google. I remember when Yahoo! was a hand-curated list at Stanford. I did indeed stop buying GPSes after my first smartphone, even though the UI on Google Maps was and is considerably worse than on my last GPS. (Why, oh why, does Maps auto-fill include, high on the list, streets 400 miles away from me? Once I even got a street in London.) Basically, a bad free solution will often replace a good paid solution, and this, my children, is disruption at its finest. Mode Media goes boom,, leaving its bloggers unpaid. quote:Over the past couple of years, a herd of unicorns — the tech industry’s term for private companies worth more than a billion dollars — have thundered through Silicon Valley. This week, one of them stumbled out of the pack. I vaguely remember hearing about Ning. Maybe even twice. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Sep 18, 2016 |
# ? Sep 18, 2016 17:38 |
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How dare you guys forget AskJeeves
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 17:53 |
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nm posted:Not really. There were a fair number of search engines that sorta kinda did what google did, just very poorly. Also gopher! If you werent around for the 90s Internet maybe be a bit cautious before spouting off about it itt Early Google was cool (no ads!) but it wasn't some revelation.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 18:00 |
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Yeah I remember when Google was a scrappy upstart and I was reluctant to use it because its name sounded dumb. It really was better, though.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 18:45 |
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And most browsers didn't have a way to search straight from the browser window. Some search engines of the time looked like msn.com does now; that didn't help when everyone was still on dialup. Google pretty much nailed it with "logo, seach field, two buttons".
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 19:10 |
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Back when using search engines was a skill, and you had to do it a certain way to get the kind of results you wanted. AskJeeves seemed like the more user friendly way to go but half the time you wouldn't get what you actually wanted.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 19:27 |
Hodgepodge posted:Metacrawler was where it was at before Google. Google did it best but they also prevented anyone else from doing anything at all resembling what the hey did. Pagerank is patented in a way that effectively locks down the entire idea of "rate pages according to the rating of pages which link to them" which feeds light into the idea of "pages which are linked to often and/or by sites which are linked to often are more likely to be useful than those that are linked to rarely and/or by other rarely linked sites". It is really up in the air whether that patent would survive a serious challenge today but it expires in a year so I don't think anyone is going to bother with it.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 19:36 |
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As I understand it, classic PageRank as described in the (pretty accessible) paper isn't part of Google's algorithm set any longer either. It's horrendously susceptible to abuse.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 19:43 |
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I've seen a lot of wannabee entrepreneurs and future millionaire CEO's posting this as how aa great example of how a CV should be done. A lot of design over content. Her most recent displayed accomplishments were the buyout of Tumblr and leading the buyout under Verizon.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 22:14 |
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Liquid Communism posted:Don't forget the part where Uber's standards for what vehicles they'll accept their drivers using are also both a lot higher than most conventional taxi fleets, and not maintained or provided by Uber themselves! It's pretty easy to get a nicer experience when you're not paying for your fleet, after all! I wonder if we could have some sort of state subsidized transportation service which could tax the wealthy and then spend their money to provide a good service to both employees and passengers.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 22:22 |
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Gail Wynand posted:Yeah I remember when Google was a scrappy upstart and I was reluctant to use it because its name sounded dumb. It really was better, though. I am embarrassed to say that my mother, who wasn't even that young at the time (but was why we had internet in the early 90s as well, so I guess she was ahead of her time), introduced me to google. And I was skeptical too (how can I get things done without anything on the website but a search box?), but lo and behold it was better than the rest.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 22:28 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:
Ning became really big with the looney tunes rightwing crowd because it let you set up social networks that seniors could navigate and complain about how the Kenyan Muslim is destroying America. There were other groups on the fringe left, but not nearly as large in scope, and none of them were backed by well-funded groups like some of the rightwing stuff was. Many of the groups have since left Ning for Facebook (or just fell apart entirely), though there are probably still some around. Subjunctive posted:As I understand it, classic PageRank as described in the (pretty accessible) paper isn't part of Google's algorithm set any longer either. It's horrendously susceptible to abuse.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 23:06 |
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Tars Tarkas posted:I don't think they've updated it in years, they also have gotten more coy about when they update their search algorithm because of people trying to game the system for their web marketing scam sites. Google is constantly iterating the search algorithm, and that was, when I was there, the most tightly locked-down part of the company. (X is probably more locked down now; I wouldn't know.) Whether or not PageRank is still in use, a *lot* more secret sauce got added over the years.
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# ? Sep 18, 2016 23:25 |
I was more making a point that Google, Facebook, etc are as much a product of perfect timing and luck as they are of good business models or visionary discoveries. Attempting to replicate their success by attempting to act the same way that they did is futile unless you have a time machine.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 00:02 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Is there any reason to believe that's Mayer's actual CV and not somebody's idea of a joke? Look at the pie chart. Look at the bottom right - it's "made with admiration" by a company that makes CV templates that look like that.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 00:10 |
OwlFancier posted:I wonder if we could have some sort of state subsidized transportation service which could tax the wealthy and then spend their money to provide a good service to both employees and passengers.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 00:13 |
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:I don't know that sudden, iterative progress counts as disruption. Disruption is part of the iterative process of technology companies creating tech kits for other businesses.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 00:40 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Is there any reason to believe that's Mayer's actual CV and not somebody's idea of a joke? Look at the pie chart.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 01:36 |
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nm posted:I am embarrassed to say that my mother, who wasn't even that young at the time (but was why we had internet in the early 90s as well, so I guess she was ahead of her time), introduced me to google. Shifty Pony posted:I was more making a point that Google, Facebook, etc are as much a product of perfect timing and luck as they are of good business models quote:or visionary discoveries. Attempting to replicate their success by attempting to act the same way that they did is futile unless you have a time machine.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 01:51 |
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pr0zac posted:Why is this embarrassing?
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 01:55 |
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pr0zac posted:Why is this embarrassing?
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 03:15 |
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Space Gopher posted:Look at the bottom right - it's "made with admiration" by a company that makes CV templates that look like that.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 04:14 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Is there a single company on the planet who would even let someone with a CV looking like that in for an initial interview? Somehow out of everything I've read in this thread it's this that bothers me most. The mind boggles. Probably a hip multi-platform media startup (they've got coverage in Snapchat, YikYak, Twitter and WhatsApp!). Or basically a place where style rules over substance. The What My Day Is Like section is total rear end though.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 04:34 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Is there a single company on the planet who would even let someone with a CV looking like that in for an initial interview? Somehow out of everything I've read in this thread it's this that bothers me most. The mind boggles. Yeah starting to see a lot more of them, but it makes sense in more creative disciplines. Fucks with a lot of software that auto loads databases from the text if the design is too gaudy. Doesn't bother me much but it is not a positive either.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 04:55 |
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Marenghi posted:I've seen a lot of wannabee entrepreneurs and future millionaire CEO's posting this as how aa great example of how a CV should be done. I would throw it away just for using a pie chart.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 09:37 |
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The CV's use of purple and grainy background makes me irrationally angry
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 09:42 |
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Why the gently caress is being a graphic designer being pushed as a requirement for applying to a job now. Nobody has time for this poo poo. Unless you're one of the ones who can afford to pay for CV templates while unemployed I guess.
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 11:42 |
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Marenghi posted:I've seen a lot of wannabee entrepreneurs and future millionaire CEO's posting this as how aa great example of how a CV should be done. "Showing Yahoo! employees that their work has meaning" This is just cruel but maybe ok if that CV is intended for a prison counselor position?
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 11:57 |
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nachos posted:Why the gently caress is being a graphic designer being pushed as a requirement for applying to a job now. Nobody has time for this poo poo. Unless you're one of the ones who can afford to pay for CV templates while unemployed I guess. American recruiters are the most entitled pieces of poo poo on the planet. Too many of them only have experience with an economy where people will jump through any hoops to get a job with them. Then they whine about not finding qualified people: you've successfully filtered away anyone with substance, dumbasses!
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# ? Sep 19, 2016 13:12 |