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That Works posted:Yes putting a person in charge of the weapons who makes threats and accusations publicly without evidence will maintain nuclear stability because because nuclear stability is not so flimsy that vocal mean words will suddenly cause a nuclear holocaust or even bring us one toe towards nuclear holocaust. Trump is not the first person to go bluster and threaten and he wont be the last this isn't the cold war e: whats aggravating me about this is that we aren't even disagreeing that what he says is bad and dumb, you're just escalating it to hyperbolic absurdity which makes me want to argue against you, this entire discussion is internetleftism.txt
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all I know is I'm really glad to be a straight white person in the 3-5% because holy moley it's gonna suck real bad for anyone else, but lol @ the millions of poor idiots that thought trump was gonna help them after having his new hotel use robes made in china
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i'm almost positive that trump promised to nuke raqqa during the primaries
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trump in his wisdom will refrain from using /threatening nukes and will release smallpox instead problem solved
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I'm sure China is warming up its missiles because a noted blowhard has blurted out some edgy nonsense to make sure his interview would get him big headlines.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i'm almost positive that trump promised to nuke raqqa during the primaries No, that was thread poster Smoothrich
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Grey Fox posted:Does this poll impart any useful information whatsoever that I'm missing, or did they send the statistics to a CIA blacksite to continue this horserace? Obama won the same states by a total average of 50-48 fwiw
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/777520566937018368 No, they still mad. But real news has taken them off the trail for now.
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Neurolimal posted:because nuclear stability is not so flimsy that vocal mean words will suddenly cause a nuclear holocaust or even bring us one toe towards nuclear holocaust. Trump is not the first person to go bluster and threaten and he wont be the last Generally the recent belligerents behind that bluster haven't had the ability to use it at will globally. Big difference from North Korea threatening a neighbor vs the USA threatening an undefined collective. Also lol if you don't think another cold war or nuclear deadlock is just never going to happen.
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That Works posted:Generally the recent belligerents behind that bluster haven't had the ability to use it at will globally. Big difference from North Korea threatening a neighbor vs the USA threatening an undefined collective. Also lol if you don't think another cold war or nuclear deadlock is just never going to happen. it might happen if we discover a way to strike without second strikes happening (aka a magical power to launch nukes at every single other country and also in every ocean and also antarctica and detonating before anyone notices the wave of missiles), or a new magical war tech that we don't have the ability to identify (which was a big part of the scare and happened in the incident I mentioned where the chain of command broke, aka fulfilled its purpose) if we seem to be creeping up on that instead of spending trillions on broken stealth fighters then I'll agree with you
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idk I wonder how much of trump is just people having the collective memories of goldfish and forgetting what happened last time a republican was in the white house
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Al! posted:trump thread's got a bad case of neurolimil right now It's a terrible eye disease.
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uncurable mlady posted:idk I wonder how much of trump is just people having the collective memories of goldfish and forgetting what happened last time a republican was in the white house they need some memberberries op
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Neurolimal posted:it might happen if we discover a way to strike without second strikes happening (aka a magical power to launch nukes at every single other country and also in every ocean and also antarctica and detonating before anyone notices the wave of missiles), or a new magical war tech that we don't have the ability to identify (which was a big part of the scare and happened in the incident I mentioned where the chain of command broke, aka fulfilled its purpose) jesus christ shut up about nukes
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The problem is that how bad things got started really happening when Bush left office.
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Neurolimal posted:it might happen if we discover a way to strike without second strikes happening (aka a magical power to launch nukes at every single other country and also in every ocean and also antarctica and detonating before anyone notices the wave of missiles), or a new magical war tech that we don't have the ability to identify (which was a big part of the scare and happened in the incident I mentioned where the chain of command broke, aka fulfilled its purpose) Decaptiation / SDI. You're arguing that we aren't in a cold war anymore and then acting like nuclear policy of the present still works that way. Anyway, time to watch football. Apologies to the rest of the thread for feeding a troll.
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https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/777541410430091265 Yup, they're still mad.
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Neurolimal posted:it might happen if we discover a way to strike without second strikes happening (aka a magical power to launch nukes at every single other country and also in every ocean and also antarctica and detonating before anyone notices the wave of missiles), or a new magical war tech that we don't have the ability to identify (which was a big part of the scare and happened in the incident I mentioned where the chain of command broke, aka fulfilled its purpose) Kill you're parents.
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Neurolimal posted:because nuclear stability is not so flimsy that vocal mean words will suddenly cause a nuclear holocaust or even bring us one toe towards nuclear holocaust. Trump is not the first person to go bluster and threaten and he wont be the last the problem here is you hth timb duck
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That Works posted:Decaptiation / SDI. thats because it does still work that way, everyone just realized that nobody wants to live in a nuclear holocaust, radars and safety measures were improved, and we stopped pretending communists were crazy bomb monsters, it didnt just suddenly evaporate into fat air enjoy the football friend, it'll prolly be better than seriously arguing nukes in the idiot wastelands of c-span
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/777520566937018368 Several reporters are already slamming CBS for the misleading headline, so I think it's fair to say they're still mad
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Quick note before I return to work: LAT isn't even an actual poll you nitwits, [i.e. it interviews the same group of people over and over again and weights overall response based on things like "enthusiasm." Also, note that the entire change in the poll has been shifted by like 10 African American respondents and possibly not even saying they'll vote Trump, just that their enthusiasm for Clinton is down.] That is: LAT is an interesting barometer for a few things, but is not useful as an actual measure of where the race is.
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Neurolimal posted:thats because it does still work that way, everyone just realized that nobody wants to live in a nuclear holocaust, radars and safety measures were improved, and we stopped pretending communists were crazy bomb monsters, it didnt just suddenly evaporate into fat air okay two quick points 1) you really shouldn't want to risk it, regardless of how much faith you have in the system as its set up, that's not something you loving risk if you can avoid it 2) if he's untrustworthy/not opposed to nukes, then that means he's more willing to use every other thing we have that can kill a lot of people and he won't care about casualties if he's talking about nukes since they aren't exactly precise
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Kinda funny that reporter twitter immediately dog piles and shits on anyone who gives half an inch of ground to trumps bullshit. I'm just hoping it isn't to late.
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Karl Sharks posted:okay two quick points these are good points that I agree with
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Schnorkles posted:Quick note before I return to work: LAT isn't even an actual poll you nitwits, [i.e. it interviews the same group of people over and over again and weights overall response based on things like "enthusiasm." Also, note that the entire change in the poll has been shifted by like 10 African American respondents and possibly not even saying they'll vote Trump, just that their enthusiasm for Clinton is down.] i thought the same thing re: it being good to have if it's not paid much attention to other than enthusiasm, but polling is already a barometer for enthusiasm since if you feel good about your candidate, then you'll answer the call
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paranoid randroid posted:the toons all got priced out to Riverside haha
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Karl Sharks posted:i thought the same thing re: it being good to have if it's not paid much attention to other than enthusiasm, but polling is already a barometer for enthusiasm since if you feel good about your candidate, then you'll answer the call differential non-response is a thing, and maybe the only thing that matters, but you hopefully try and control for it via your demographic weighting. The LAT flat out uses it as their major way of determining the race. My recollection based on the discussion that someone had about it is you could have someone be "down" in the poll with more people saying they'll vote him/her because their stated enthusiasm is on the whole lower than the other candidate.
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Neurolimal posted:these are good points that I agree with well, i think that's really the crux of anything people are saying against trump having nukes yes, the chances are quite slim that they would actually fly under his presidency, but that's not the point behind people saying you don't want the finger on the button to be one that's so easily baited on twitter, it's a testament to his temperament/judgement, but it's more impactful if you talk about him letting nukes fly than how he'll be careless with airstrikes or something
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Schnorkles posted:differential non-response is a thing, and maybe the only thing that matters, but you hopefully try and control for it via your demographic weighting. The LAT flat out uses it as their major way of determining the race. My recollection based on the discussion that someone had about it is you could have someone be "down" in the poll with more people saying they'll vote him/her because their stated enthusiasm is on the whole lower than the other candidate. yeah, i mean i can certainly see a place for a tracker like that, more legitimate information is always good imo, but the problem being i'd rather it not exist this cycle because it's seen as a legitimate, traditional poll that affects aggregates, etc.
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