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Doccers
Aug 15, 2000


Patron Saint of Chickencheese

so loving future posted:

Remote work is changing this too, which is awesome. Obviously not all jobs are portable with an internet connection, but it's definitely a thing that is normalizing.

I wouldn't rely on that, any job that can actually be done remotely will be offshored to cut costs.

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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
The Seattle Times came out with another bad editorial about how light rail will ruin the city, we need more roads, etc.

Seattle Subway responded by posting this on their facebook:

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx
It'd been equally accurate to say only one will exist twenty-five years from now (if you're lucky, it could easily be neither).

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


seiferguy posted:

The Seattle Times came out with another bad editorial about how light rail will ruin the city, we need more roads, etc.

Seattle Subway responded by posting this on their facebook:



http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/consider-actual-benefits-from-sound-transit-3/

"We just need more buses, which is also a thing we do not want."

I am not surprised the Seattle Times does not support a modern transit system, since only old people read it at this point and navigating around their site is a transit disaster in itself.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

http://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/consider-actual-benefits-from-sound-transit-3/

"We just need more buses, which is also a thing we do not want."

I am not surprised the Seattle Times does not support a modern transit system, since only old people read it at this point and navigating around their site is a transit disaster in itself.

The Seattle Times is a necessary evil, since they do have some state reporting that's important and is keeping some tabs on people. But their editorial board is awful people handpicked by the owner himself. The owner being a tea partier, which really ought to give you an indication about how he feels about things.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
Pretty much all I read is the headlines of the first page of each section, once you know the writer's styles you can guess 95% of the rest of the article. Never read editorials, it's stupid and pointless.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

effectual posted:

Pretty much all I read is the headlines of the first page of each section, once you know the writer's styles you can guess 95% of the rest of the article. Never read editorials, it's stupid and pointless.

Editorials are an antiquated form of the comment section, making comment sections to editorial pages an inception of stupidity.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

It's super important to keep local news papers alive but good god I cannot bear the thought of supporting the Seattle times. How did our only surviving, viable paper in this super liberal part of the country end up being the conservative one?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Best Friends posted:

It's super important to keep local news papers alive but good god I cannot bear the thought of supporting the Seattle times. How did our only surviving, viable paper in this super liberal part of the country end up being the conservative one?
Partly that conservatives have the capital to prop up lovely newspapers, partly that people enjoy yellow journalism and spectacle way more than actual journalism.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Best Friends posted:

It's super important to keep local news papers alive but good god I cannot bear the thought of supporting the Seattle times. How did our only surviving, viable paper in this super liberal part of the country end up being the conservative one?

Old people are the only ones who read papers.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Best Friends posted:

It's super important to keep local news papers alive but good god I cannot bear the thought of supporting the Seattle times. How did our only surviving, viable paper in this super liberal part of the country end up being the conservative one?

I agree that local papers are incredibly valuable, but I'm lucky that my hometown paper is still reasonable (I'm in Eugene). That reminds me, I should really subscribe to the Guard again.

computer parts posted:

Old people are the only ones who read papers.

Also, I am old. :corsair:

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
All the good coverage went to hyper local neighborhood blogs. Not joking.

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)
Yeah, I generally get local reporting for Seattle from blogs like Publicola and Seattleish, with a quick run-through of the Stranger now and then. And of course, associated Twitter feeds. Add the hyper local Capitol Hill Seattle blog, and there you go.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

HEY NONG MAN posted:

All the good coverage went to hyper local neighborhood blogs. Not joking.

West Seattle blog is astounding. Absolutely astounding.

But the problem is, as great as they are, they'll never have the resources to put together a deep investigation into say a corruption scandal.

I don't see the way to keep papers in business though. No idea how that gap will be filled.

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx
I'm a fan of the Lewiston Morning Tribune, I think being owned by people who seem to be committed to keeping the paper local is a big deal.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.
I just read Seattle Transit Blog and call it good enough.

Also I listen to 97.3 sometimes

Newspapers are a dumb and dying media.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Best Friends posted:

I don't see the way to keep papers in business though. No idea how that gap will be filled.

Didn't papers used to be family-owned prestige/noblesse oblige affairs?

Maybe that'll come back :smith:

oxbrain
Aug 18, 2005

Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip and come on up to the mothership.

Accretionist posted:

Didn't papers used to be family-owned prestige/noblesse oblige affairs?

Maybe that'll come back :smith:

Maybe Bezos will buy the Seattle times too. :v:

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Bendykoval was thhe one who thought Dril was a nazi, right?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Angular Landbury posted:

Bendykoval was thhe one who thought Dril was a nazi, right?
no i don't believe so https://twitter.com/bendykoval/status/749592053273731076

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

Accretionist posted:

Didn't papers used to be family-owned prestige/noblesse oblige affairs?

Maybe that'll come back :smith:

That is the Times, it's still owned by the Blethens. The PI was eventually part of the Hearst empire, and the Hearst Corporation still owns the name. Big newspapers were never an organ of the common people. There were smaller ones, and newsletters, but being a big paper usually meant you were backed by a rich person looking to make themselves look more philanthropic. Just ignore that owning the paper meant you can block out stories that would make you or or companies look bad.

Those days never left, they just moved to be corporations owned by the families instead of direct ownership.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

foobardog posted:

Those days never left, they just moved to be corporations owned by the families instead of direct ownership.

~progress~

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Accretionist posted:

It seems like every city is either lovely/overpriced or has no jobs/transit.
Unfortunately, America has only recently discovered that transportation modes other than cars are cool and good, and infrastructure takes a long time to catch up to culture.

Mortanis
Dec 28, 2005

It's your father's lightsaber. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight.
College Slice
Shooting up the road from me at the Burlington Mall. Current report is 4 dead, suspect still at large.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Mortanis posted:

Shooting up the road from me at the Burlington Mall. Current report is 4 dead, suspect still at large.

http://komonews.com/live/event "hispanic male with gun" is the description, hahaha. Don't go anywhere if you're north of seattle and hispanic tonight. Now saying three dead one super injured one slightly less injured.

Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Sep 24, 2016

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Reason posted:

http://komonews.com/live/event "hispanic male with gun" is the description, hahaha. Don't go anywhere if you're north of seattle and hispanic tonight. Now saying three dead one super injured one slightly less injured.

I'm legitimately staying away from populated areas right now just in case someone freaks out that a Mexican exists in the world and calls the cops to murder me.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Same.


But I'm in Virginia.

Not taking any chances.

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.
One of my cousins is convinced ISIS did it and doing the whole "IF I WERE THERE I WOULD HAVE SHOT HIM!!!" bulllshit.

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting

Tulalip Tulips posted:

One of my cousins is convinced ISIS did it and doing the whole "IF I WERE THERE I WOULD HAVE SHOT HIM!!!" bulllshit.
Is your cousin the guy from that Michael Moore movie after 911 that thought terrorists were going to attack spaghetti restaurants?

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Best Friends posted:

It's super important to keep local news papers alive but good god I cannot bear the thought of supporting the Seattle times. How did our only surviving, viable paper in this super liberal part of the country end up being the conservative one?

Agreed the Seattle Times is super-NIMBY and has regressive editorials, but I do enjoy their sports coverage. They had a nice headline today:

Kerosene19
May 7, 2007


Tulalip Tulips posted:

One of my cousins is convinced ISIS did it and doing the whole "IF I WERE THERE I WOULD HAVE SHOT HIM!!!" bulllshit.


Definitely an extremist.

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)

Kerosene19 posted:


Definitely an extremist.

I haven't actually heard or read about his motivations yet. I am guessing MRA, with a jumbled side of other internet badness?

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
I'm getting a whole lot of No on 97 ads trying to frame it as a sales tax, when it's really a corporate income tax. Is there any polling about those measures?

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

computer parts posted:

I'm getting a whole lot of No on 97 ads trying to frame it as a sales tax, when it's really a corporate income tax. Is there any polling about those measures?

Up by 30 points as of a couple weeks ago.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



computer parts posted:

I'm getting a whole lot of No on 97 ads trying to frame it as a sales tax, when it's really a corporate income tax. Is there any polling about those measures?

I haven't got anything in the mail yet, but I am also registered as Not Affiliated so I think in general I get less political mail than someone registered with a party. Mostly seen pro-97 signs around town.

Roki B
Jul 25, 2004


Medical Industrial Complex


Biscuit Hider

computer parts posted:

I'm getting a whole lot of No on 97 ads trying to frame it as a sales tax, when it's really a corporate income tax. Is there any polling about those measures?

I got called by a polling company yesterday. Quantus I think. Mostly about measure 97 with some political season stuff too.

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)
Are you getting tired of Bundy trial updates?

I am, but I still feel we should keep generally abreast of the trial.

Ammon Bundy is going to take the stand.

The judge has forbidden the defense from bringing up the entire issue of federal land ownership, and Ammon Bundy, unlike his brother Ryan, has managed to stay fairly focused. It will be interesting to see if he will try to stay focused, or if he will go off on a tangent.

There has actually been few or no contempt findings in this trial, which is a bit surprising. It will be interesting to see if this changes that.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ammon-bundy-testify-trial_us_57f32508e4b0d0e1a9a96598

glowing-fish fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Oct 4, 2016

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



glowing-fish posted:

The judge has forbidden the defense from bringing up the entire issue of federal land ownership, and Ammon Bundy, unlike his brother Ryan, has managed to stay fairly focused. It will be interesting to see if he will try to stay focused, or if he will go off on a tangent.

There has actually been few or no contempt findings in this trial, which is a bit surprising. It will be interesting to see if this changes that.
Betting odds on, when things go badly, he goes full sovcit?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Pander posted:

Betting odds on, when things go badly, he goes full sovcit?

Correct me if I wrong, but isn't he taking the stand specifically to bring up adverse possession as a state of mind defense? At least, I read that a couple places. But, in the process of justifying his actions as adverse possession, doesn't he basically have to concede that it was a conspiracy to occupy the refuge at the exclusion of the government? So unless he's going for full-on nullification (it's this one, isn't it, he thinks he's going to launch into a Hollywood-esque monologue that results in an instant acquittal) isn't he screwing himself and the rest of the defendants by opening up a lot of topics the prosecution hasn't been able to bring in?

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coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

glowing-fish posted:

Are you getting tired of Bundy trial updates?

I am, but I still feel we should keep generally abreast of the trial.

Ammon Bundy is going to take the stand.

The judge has forbidden the defense from bringing up the entire issue of federal land ownership, and Ammon Bundy, unlike his brother Ryan, has managed to stay fairly focused. It will be interesting to see if he will try to stay focused, or if he will go off on a tangent.

There has actually been few or no contempt findings in this trial, which is a bit surprising. It will be interesting to see if this changes that.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ammon-bundy-testify-trial_us_57f32508e4b0d0e1a9a96598
Why are you linking to huffpo when the Oregonian has been on top of this poo poo 24/7 harder and more carefully than any other outlet?

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