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I wouldn't hire a person who claims they only sleep three hours a night on their CV. Either they're lying or there's something wrong with them, like Donald Trump's "diet pill" addiction.
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I lived in Palo Alto in the 90s and I remember in third grade being taught in school to use search engines - the query-like syntax, and to try several different ones when looking for information much like how now kids are told to use multiple sources when writing a paper. We were shown altavista, hotbot, askjeeves, and yahooligans (lol).
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Sep 19, 2016 17:11
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Antti posted:I wouldn't hire a person who claims they only sleep three hours a night on their CV. Either they're lying or there's something wrong with them, like Donald Trump's "diet pill" addiction. There are a small amount of people who only need 6, but at 3 you're looking at someone whose judgement is equivalent to someone who's drunk, and who is accumulating long term brain damage.
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Sep 19, 2016 17:16
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Chapo Trap House Episode 42 - Uber for Ubermenschen feat. @nkulw and @EdZitron (9/18/16) https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-42-uber-for-ubermenschen-feat-nkulw-and-edzitron-91816
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Sep 19, 2016 18:01
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fatherboxx posted:"Showing Yahoo! employees that their work has meaning" I looked at the names of her children and felt sort of bad for them.
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Sep 19, 2016 18:11
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Adventure Pigeon posted:I looked at the names of her children and felt sort of bad for them. Dumbass names have long been the price to pay for a life of security and privilege.
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Sep 19, 2016 18:17
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Subjunctive posted:There were search engines before Google. Lycos, Altavista, Hotbot, etc. Yes but they were all really bad. There was also dogpile, etc that tried to aggregate all the bad searches into even more bad searches. I think Yahoo and Excite were close but they were also bad. The majority of people I knew still kept a list of urls they typed into manually or copied from a text file.
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Sep 19, 2016 18:23
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MeruFM posted:Yes but they were all really bad. Man, not even a bookmarks page linked from your homepage? Lamers.
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Sep 19, 2016 19:02
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Is there a single company on the planet who would even let someone with a CV looking like that in for an initial interview? Somehow out of everything I've read in this thread it's this that bothers me most. The mind boggles. yes because look at that headshot on the upper right 
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Sep 19, 2016 21:57
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Space Gopher posted:Look at the bottom right - it's "made with admiration" by a company that makes CV templates that look like that.
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Sep 19, 2016 23:25
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google was always the best at finding Korn lyrics and dragon ball z gifs for my free homestead site that literally no one ever visited
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Sep 19, 2016 23:27
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I just noticed all the random pictures in the background of her CV too.
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Sep 19, 2016 23:38
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Gail Wynand posted:Yeah, that site and creddle.io are increasingly recommended by career counselors. Ironically making your CV not unique at all! Old school CV's are just fine, just don't use Times New Roman and make sure you link to (and have) a well designed homepage/blog. Anything produced in LaTeX is going to look way better.
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Sep 19, 2016 23:49
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MeruFM posted:Yes but they were all really bad. Like literally Yahoo would say "showing 1-10 of 4 million results" and then Excite would try to one-up them by saying it found 5 million results.
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Sep 20, 2016 08:03
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We talk about VC and deal terms and valuations and such here a fair bit, so I thought some people might be interested in this. Venture Deals: Be Smarter Than Your Lawyer and Venture Capitalist is a really good book on the mechanics and variables of venture financing (equity and convertible debt), with advice for founders on how to not get hosed. I'm really enjoying it, and learning things. (I didn't really understand warrants before  )
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Sep 20, 2016 11:10
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Noam Chomsky posted:Chapo Trap House these guys are pretty cool except when they are talking about gawker, like why are they so mad about that? is it too much to ask to not publish private pornographic media?? honestly?? who the gently caress cares if some rich billionaire did it, i'm glad they're gone. the guy sounds like the whiniest fucken baby why, because there's no more listicles TOP 5 STOLEN PORNS U NEED 2 SEE!!
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Sep 20, 2016 16:58
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roymorrison posted:these guys are pretty cool except when they are talking about gawker, like why are they so mad about that? is it too much to ask to not publish private pornographic media?? honestly?? who the gently caress cares if some rich billionaire did it, i'm glad they're gone. the guy sounds like the whiniest fucken baby why, because there's no more listicles TOP 5 STOLEN PORNS U NEED 2 SEE!! Because it sets the precedent that a billionaire can essentially close down a media organization for reporting things they don't like. Gawker did some pretty good reporting on the nefarious persons we're discussing in this very thread. Also, plenty of organizations are still in business who have published private pornographic media, organizations who haven't made an enemy of Peter Thiel.
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Sep 20, 2016 18:17
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Noam Chomsky posted:Because it sets the precedent that a billionaire can essentially close down a media organization for reporting things they don't like. If a court agrees, but yes, I don't think that precedent really needed to be established. It's hardly surprising that a rich person can attack someone through the courts, whatever the motivation.
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Sep 20, 2016 18:20
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Noam Chomsky posted:Because it sets the precedent that a billionaire can essentially close down a media organization for reporting things they don't like. a totally new thing that has never happened before ever
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Sep 20, 2016 18:20
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:a totally new thing that has never happened before ever what's next? rich people using blogs, or maybe even blogs printed out on paper, like a sort of paper version of the news, attacking people they don't like? this will be the end of free speech in america, mark my words
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Sep 20, 2016 18:24
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Subjunctive posted:If a court agrees, but yes, I don't think that precedent really needed to be established. It's hardly surprising that a rich person can attack someone through the courts, whatever the motivation. Rich people being able to buy their way through the court system probably predates writing. I forget the number exactly but it was huge; like 75 % or so of Americans couldn't hire a lawyer at all if they needed one. The rich can do things like hire people to just tie up the case until the other side runs out of money, patience, or both. The American legal system is just all kinds of hosed.
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Sep 20, 2016 19:09
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I know this was a ways back in the thread, but I was wondering about something : So a lot of these "disruptive" startups tend to emphasize skirting laws and regulations to compete with established businesses. One of these is the aspect of 'piecework' which is marketed as convenient but really is just a way to pay people as little as possible. Many practices are extremely labor unfriendly and I'd hate for things to shift to the point that employers consider someone wanting full time employment +benefits to be preposterous and entitled. So why aren't any of these startups disputing the labor market in the other direction by creating businesses that have better pay and benefits to attract the most highly skilled, reliable people? Why aren't businesses trying to emulate companies like Costco or In N Out burger who pay more then other similar businesses? The Costco near us has excellent customer service, everybody is friendly even though I know at its core its still a retail job that has you on your feet all day. But they don't force their employees to wear a dorky uniform and are more anal about attendance then upselling customers.
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Sep 20, 2016 19:49
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Panfilo posted:So why aren't any of these startups disputing the labor market in the other direction by creating businesses that have better pay and benefits to attract the most highly skilled, reliable people? Why aren't businesses trying to emulate companies like Costco or In N Out burger who pay more then other similar businesses? I think you'll find that tech companies are in fact in a compensation race with each other.
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Sep 20, 2016 19:58
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Panfilo posted:I know this was a ways back in the thread, but I was wondering about something : they kind of are - google and apple pay top dollar for talent, even if they do engage in price fixing. and there was that credit card processing company that paid everyone a minimum 70k salary. it's just that "prosperous firm pays salaried employees well" isn't much of a news item
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Sep 20, 2016 19:59
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Popular Thug Drink posted:they kind of are - google and apple pay top dollar for talent, even if they do engage in price fixing. and there was that credit card processing company that paid everyone a minimum 70k salary. it's just that "prosperous firm pays salaried employees well" isn't much of a news item they weren't just price fixing, they were refusing to hire recent or current employees of each other (and a number of other places). forcing employees to be dependent on their employer for raises undoubtedly drove wages down
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Sep 20, 2016 20:09
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Subjunctive posted:I think you'll find that tech companies are in fact in a compensation race with each other. It's rare that a company will provide an existing employee even a regular, scheduled cost-of-living increase, let alone any kind of increase that tells the employee, "We truly value you." The reason why few businesses don't follow the Costco/In-N-Out model is that the venture capital companies behind startups sees "employee-valuing" as the kind of behavior as acting opposite to their typically desired goal of making a profit as quickly as possible. If a policy was put in place to encourage employees to stay, believe and therefore work hard for the company, it might take 5-7 years or more to profit enough to make that ROI "worthwhile". I'm sure most VCs have a 2 year timetable.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:13
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Subjunctive posted:I think you'll find that tech companies are in fact in a compensation race with each other. And yet recruiters go dark for weeks at a time between interviews. 
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Sep 20, 2016 20:13
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Cheesus posted:I'm sure most VCs have a 2 year timetable. Maybe the C-round players are different, but 4-5 years used to be the norm from initial funding to exit, and it's now more like 7. If I told my partners that I wanted to pass on a deal because it would take more than 2 years to return, they'd have me committed.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:16
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Subjunctive posted:I think you'll find that tech companies are in fact in a compensation race with each other. In the case of Uber, this only applies to the few thousand people they actually call employees, not the hundreds of thousands of "contractors" they de facto employ.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:17
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Lead out in cuffs posted:In the case of Uber, this only applies to the few thousand people they actually call employees, not the hundreds of thousands of "contractors" they de facto employ. Does Costco ensure that its suppliers pay their folks well? I only know of one company that requires minimum compensation and benefits for the employees of its service vendors, and it's not them.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:18
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Popular Thug Drink posted:they kind of are - google and apple pay top dollar for talent, even if they do engage in price fixing This is the definition of 'not paying top dollar' you realise.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:22
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The top dollar could still be the result of price fixing if it otherwise would be even higher.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:23
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feedmegin posted:This is the definition of 'not paying top dollar' you realise. you can pay significantly higher than average wages while also preventing your employees from trying to jump to your competitor or trying to negotiate a raise based on competitor's compensation i'm not saying it's good or ethical, but you can do both
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Sep 20, 2016 20:29
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Cheesus posted:If you move between companies. It's kind of a defacto standard for getting a raise. I definitely see what you mean, so VCs are too impatient to play the long game (it can't be a matter of risk management or you wouldn't get hustles like Theranos being a thing). But the benefits of employee retention can be seen before that, they'll have top talent right out of the gate and being sincere it won't be some bait and switch like other companies try to pull. Popular Thug Drink posted:they kind of are - google and apple pay top dollar for talent, even if they do engage in price fixing. and there was that credit card processing company that paid everyone a minimum 70k salary. it's just that "prosperous firm pays salaried employees well" isn't much of a news item Don't Google and Apple provide a lot of "benefits" that are really just ways to get the employees to never leave the office? For example, Google has services that can gas up your car and do oil changes, right there in the parking lot. While this feels nicely convenient for employees, giving them the actual time away from work would be worth more.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:38
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Panfilo posted:Don't Google and Apple provide a lot of "benefits" that are really just ways to get the employees to never leave the office? For example, Google has services that can gas up your car and do oil changes, right there in the parking lot. While this feels nicely convenient for employees, giving them the actual time away from work would be worth more. people who value time away from work more than compensation tend to not seek jobs at google
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Sep 20, 2016 20:42
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Sep 20, 2016 20:45
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Popular Thug Drink posted:people who value time away from work more than compensation tend to not seek jobs at google [paid] time away from work is considered compensation.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:53
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Subjunctive posted:Does Costco ensure that its suppliers pay their folks well? I only know of one company that requires minimum compensation and benefits for the employees of its service vendors, and it's not them. Uber's relationship with its drivers is much, much more like Costco's relationship with their own staff than Costco's relationship with their suppliers' staff.
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Sep 20, 2016 21:28
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Popular Thug Drink posted:people who value time away from work more than compensation tend to not seek jobs at google There's an employee program by which you can take 6 months off unpaid, and just come back when you're done, guaranteed. The average salary at Google is like 5 times the median American household income. You can work a few years and then just not work for 6 months, if you want, and still make on average $200k+. It's a really sweet deal, and the fact that it could have been a sweeter deal if some shady backroom poo poo hadn't happened doesn't change that, as is, it's a loving great job for people who value time off more than compensation.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Uber's relationship with its drivers is much, much more like Costco's relationship with their own staff than Costco's relationship with their suppliers' staff. Would you mind going into some detail about this rather than beating around the bushes?
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