X-Wing: Let's Fly Some Wangs

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Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

Nien.with Pattern Analyzer, Vectored Thrusters, Push the Limit, and R3A2. Maximum chance of utterly ruining your opponent's day with no stress cost.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 18:57

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 09:35

Orvin: Sep 9, 2006

ConfusedUs posted:

Yes it is.

R3-A2 and/or Stay on Target will be his best buddies.

Snap Shot with R3-A2 on Nien would be pretty gross, since you could stressbot from the snapshot, clear it, then do it again (unless they moved).

That is going to be a pretty nice combo against arc dodgers. Give them stress so that they can't further move. Nien's PS at 7 could actually be a good spot for him. He gets to move before any of the PS 8 or 9 Imps, and they can be a little predictable on their initial manuver. He can set up to catch Soontir in the obvious follow up attack locations. Thus forcing Soontir to disengage, or else risk getting double stressed with the second shot being a 4-dice primary.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 18:59

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Snap Shot on Nien is going to be hilarious. Flying with an Intelligence Agent anywhere on the field has the opportunity to royally gently caress up aces post-dial

The only issue is I don't see a single thing in here that's going to do anything to stop U-boats.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 19:01

enigmahfc: Oct 10, 2003; EFF TEE DUB!!
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overdesigned posted:

Nien takes Pattern Analyzer and PtL. Does a K-turn or T-roll. Pattern Analyzers to get his action, boosts if needed to get into R1. PtL's for whatever, drops the stress. Then check pilot stress hits, assigns a stress from the red, which he then also drops.

This is so 'X-Wing Rebels' it hurts and I want to try it right now.

Also, LOL at the username/ship build combo

# ? Sep 19, 2016 19:04

hoiyes: May 17, 2007

Strobe posted:

Snap Shot on Nien is going to be hilarious. Flying with an Intelligence Agent anywhere on the field has the opportunity to royally gently caress up aces post-dial

The only issue is I don't see a single thing in here that's going to do anything to stop U-boats.

The droid would've been ok against Agro uboats, and will do good work against the party bus, but yeah, the holy grail promised hard counter is still out there.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 19:05

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

If we don't get a fake alt-art with Nien and a comically oversized pair of sunglasses I will be immensely disappointed.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 19:08

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

The 'promised' x-wing fix btw is from an interview after integrated astro was revealed where FFG said they were going to wait and see how it did and that they had some options open.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 19:08

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

Why is there only one copy of Primed Thrusters? WHY?

# ? Sep 19, 2016 19:37

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

It's hosed up that there's an astromech with R in its name.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 19:39

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

Jess is fantastic for the brick that I keep trying to play. When replacing Garven, and pumping PS to deal with PS-kills from jumps and crack/juke swarms, you get this:

Jess Pava � T-70 X-Wing 25
R2-D6 1
Adaptability 0
Integrated Astromech 0
Ship Total: 26

Biggs Darklighter � X-Wing 25
R4-D6 1
Integrated Astromech 0
Ship Total: 26

Red Squadron Pilot � X-Wing 23
R2 Astromech 1
Integrated Astromech 0
Ship Total: 24

Red Squadron Pilot � X-Wing 23
R2 Astromech 1
Integrated Astromech 0
Ship Total: 24

That's... fun, but probably not good. This, on the other hand, looks delicious to me:

Dash Rendar � YT-2400 36
Push the Limit 3
Heavy Laser Cannon 7
Kanan Jarrus 3
Engine Upgrade 4
Outrider 5
Ship Total: 58

Poe Dameron (PS9) � T-70 X-Wing 33
Lone Wolf 2
R5-P9 3
Pattern Analyzer 2
Autothrusters 2
Ship Total: 42

Being able to fight and regen on Tallon Rolls is just amazing.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 20:24

AndyElusive: Jan 7, 2007

They have Jess Pava flying in the Black One painted T70 when she lacks the PS to even fly with the title.

My immersion.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 20:47

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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I played against a Dash/Poe list yesterday. Even without the new stuff, Poe is amazing. He's so hard to kill unless you get multiple 3-die attacks on him.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 20:47

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

"Snap" Wexley � T-70 X-Wing 28
Veteran Instincts 1
Targeting Astromech 2
Pattern Analyzer 2
Autothrusters 2
Black One 1
Ship Total: 36

Jess Pava � T-70 X-Wing 25
R2-D6 1
Adaptability 0
Integrated Astromech 0
Ship Total: 26

Green Squadron Pilot � A-Wing 19
Crack Shot 1
Chardaan Refit -2
Adaptability 0
A-Wing Test Pilot 0
Ship Total: 18

Green Squadron Pilot � A-Wing 19
Crack Shot 1
Chardaan Refit -2
Adaptability 0
A-Wing Test Pilot 0
Ship Total: 18

# ? Sep 19, 2016 21:23

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

Or how about averaging 8.5 effective actions per turn?

"Snap" Wexley � T-70 X-Wing 28
Veteran Instincts 1
Targeting Astromech 2
Pattern Analyzer 2
Vectored Thrusters 2
Black One 1
Ship Total: 36

Norra Wexley � ARC-170 29
Push the Limit 3
Kyle Katarn 3
BB-8 2
Engine Upgrade 4
Alliance Overhaul 0
Ship Total: 41

Sabine Wren (TIE Fighter) � TIE Fighter 15
Veteran Instincts 1
Tactician 2
Black Market Slicer Tools 1
Sabine's Masterpiece 1
Ship Total: 20

e: This includes an initiative bid because if Snap moves after Inqy/OL he can absolutely ruin their day.

Corbeau fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Sep 19, 2016

# ? Sep 19, 2016 21:34

Eimi: Nov 23, 2013; I will never ~~log off~~shut up.

I'm glad Jess looks usable. I also have to say I really like Snap Wexley's design, and will be trying to use him a lot.

I have a question about Pattern Analyzer, it basically just delays when you lose your action if you take say a K-Turn, right? So you get your action the turn you K-Turn but next turn even if you green because of the swapped order you lose the action then, right?

# ? Sep 19, 2016 22:44

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

Pattern Analyzer is a "may," so no: you're never forced into losing an action.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 22:50

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

Eimi posted:

I'm glad Jess looks usable. I also have to say I really like Snap Wexley's design, and will be trying to use him a lot.

I have a question about Pattern Analyzer, it basically just delays when you lose your action if you take say a K-Turn, right? So you get your action the turn you K-Turn but next turn even if you green because of the swapped order you lose the action then, right?

It's a "may" ability, so you could just not use it next turn to get your stress removed on a green.

Probably.

Edit: I'll just pretend I wasn't beaten.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 22:50

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Eimi posted:

I'm glad Jess looks usable. I also have to say I really like Snap Wexley's design, and will be trying to use him a lot.

I have a question about Pattern Analyzer, it basically just delays when you lose your action if you take say a K-Turn, right? So you get your action the turn you K-Turn but next turn even if you green because of the swapped order you lose the action then, right?

You get to choose the order each turn.

That means you could delay it to get an action on a turn you do a red maneuver, then on the next turn you do a green but don't delay it, so you still get an action.

I'm pretty sure you could also use this on a PTL ace to end the activation phase without a stress. Reveal a green. Delay check stress. Do action, PTL for another, receive stress. Remove stress for doing a green.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 22:51

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

ConfusedUs posted:

You get to choose the order each turn.

That means you could delay it to get an action on a turn you do a red maneuver, then on the next turn you do a green but don't delay it, so you still get an action.

I'm pretty sure you could also use this on a PTL ace to end the activation phase without a stress. Reveal a green. Delay check stress. Do action, PTL for another, receive stress. Remove stress for doing a green.

This is how BB-8 Poe works so I would assume this is fine too.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:05

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Hey guys, Snap Shot works with Rhymer's ability. And you can put Tactician on him.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:07

Finster Dexter: Oct 20, 2014; Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

ConfusedUs posted:

You get to choose the order each turn.

That means you could delay it to get an action on a turn you do a red maneuver, then on the next turn you do a green but don't delay it, so you still get an action.

I'm pretty sure you could also use this on a PTL ace to end the activation phase without a stress. Reveal a green. Delay check stress. Do action, PTL for another, receive stress. Remove stress for doing a green.

Yeah, I was thinking about this. Only ships that come to mind are maybe some TIE/fo. I do like that it makes the TIE/sf with its lovely dial a bit better value proposition.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:11

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

Hey Strobe, you're the XXX player 'round here, what do you think of potentially replacing Luke with Snap?

Wes Janson (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R3-A2 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Wedge Antilles (29)
Juke (2)
R3 Astromech (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

"Snap" Wexley (28)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Targeting Astromech (2)
Pattern Analyzer (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Black One (1)

Total: 99

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He doesn't close like Luke does, but he potentially does a lot more for the formation as a whole against lock-using Imp Aces (Inqy, OL, Vessery).

# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:14

overdesigned: Apr 10, 2003; We are compassion...; Lipstick Apathy

Strobe posted:

Hey guys, Snap Shot works with Rhymer's ability. And you can put Tactician on him.

OK this could be fun as hell.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:14

Eimi: Nov 23, 2013; I will never ~~log off~~shut up.

Corbeau posted:

Pattern Analyzer is a "may," so no: you're never forced into losing an action.

Okay, that's really really good then. And here I was bitching that it wasn't 1 point like Thrusters.

# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:21

Finster Dexter: Oct 20, 2014; Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

The 3 R's (Ryad, Rhymer, inquisitoR)

Major Rhymer (26)
Snap Shot (2)
Tactician (2)
Systems Officer (2)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE Shuttle (0)

The Inquisitor (25)
Push the Limit (3)
Autothrusters (2)
TIE/v1 (1)

Countess Ryad (34)
Push the Limit (3)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE/x7 (-2)

Total: 100

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# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:24

Sushi in Yiddish: Feb 2, 2008

Just got the call that my ships have come in at the FLGS. Think I'm gonna put together a Clone wars themed ship list.

ARC-170, Y-Wing and Z-95(s?)

# ? Sep 19, 2016 23:45

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

No reason why Snap Shot wouldn't work with abilities that add dice to attacks, right?

Mauler Mithel, Scourge, Zuckuss, Fenn Rau. Noice.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 00:01

thespaceinvader: Mar 30, 2011; The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

canyoneer posted:

No reason why Snap Shot wouldn't work with abilities that add dice to attacks, right?

Mauler Mithel, Scourge, Zuckuss, Fenn Rau. Noice.

Correct.

You can add dice, you can't add dice results.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 00:04

Chill la Chill: Jul 2, 2007; Don't lose your gay

Anyone else's TTS auto dials no longer work correctly? I'm getting a merged redo/delete button for the action side and half the time it doesn't go back properly and it either gets permanently removed or unslaved. Friend has a similar problem. I think the guy was messing around with some new range quadrants for the disco ship and even that looks worse since there's now a range band gap.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 00:21

kingcom: Jun 23, 2012

Eimi posted:

Okay, that's really really good then. And here I was bitching that it wasn't 1 point like Thrusters.

Yeah I was thinking the way you were until it was explained here. It is unironically my top poo poo reveal of that box with just the way I can imagine comboing PTL constantly on it.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 00:38

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

Pattern Analysis makes T-70s the most maneuverable fighters in the game.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 00:44

canyoneer: Sep 13, 2005; I only have canyoneyes for you

Corbeau posted:

Pattern Analysis makes TIE/sfs the most maneuverable fighters in the game.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 00:49

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

I really love that all the new T-70 pilots look fun as gently caress to fly.

It's not going to set the world on fire, but I kind of like this trip T-70 list:

Poe Dameron (31)
Push the Limit (3)
BB-8 (2)
Sensor Cluster (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Black One (1)

Jess Pava (25)
R2 Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Nien Nunb (29)
Stay On Target (2)
Targeting Astromech (2)
Pattern Analyzer (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

canyoneer posted:

Pattern Analysis makes TIE/sf's the most maneuverable fighters in the game.

"Quickdraw" (29)
Push the Limit (3)
Electronic Baffle (1)
Pattern Analyzer (2)
Shield Upgrade (4)
Special Ops Training (0)

:v:

E: not 100% sold on PTL versus maybe... lone wolf? ...but also not 100% NOT sold.

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Sep 20, 2016

# ? Sep 20, 2016 00:50

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Guys Snap Shot can work with R3 Astromech, and you can fit that, AT, the new tech that is basically defensive weapon focus for 34 points. If it goes off you get a statically assured automatic three evades against a target of your choice when AT is in play.

Pre-EDIT: gently caress, R3 is primary only.

Goddammit FFG is the pool of things that can use R3 and wants to use a secondary weapon really so large that distinction was necessary.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 01:05

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

Strobe posted:

Guys Snap Shot can work with R3 Astromech, and you can fit that, AT, the new tech that is basically defensive weapon focus for 34 points. If it goes off you get a statically assured automatic three evades against a target of your choice when AT is in play.

Pre-EDIT: gently caress, R3 is primary only.

Goddammit FFG is the pool of things that can use R3 and wants to use a secondary weapon really so large that distinction was necessary.

TLT Y-Wings, probably. (Though with that said they would really only be effective on Horton and maybe Dutch, depending on the opponent.)

Speaking of astromechs though, I was thinking about the new one that was revealed today and I had an... idea.

100 points

Pilots
------

�Dutch� Vander (33)
Y-Wing (23), BTL-A4 Y-Wing (0), R2-D6 (1), Proton Torpedoes (4), Extra Munitions (2), Autoblaster Turret (2), Guidance Chips (0), Veteran Instincts (1)

Thane Kyrell (32)
ARC-170 (26), M9-G8 (3), Weapons Engineer (3), Alliance Overhaul (0)

Shara Bey (35)
ARC-170 (28), Plasma Torpedoes (3), Veteran Instincts (1), Weapons Engineer (3), Alliance Overhaul (0), Guidance Chips (0)

AKA "Who needs predator anyway", Or, "I Hope You Like Target Locks" :v:

# ? Sep 20, 2016 01:26

Corbeau: Sep 13, 2010; Jack of All Trades

canyoneer posted:

Not when X-Wings get Astromech slots and SFs/FOs don't.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 02:41

kingcom: Jun 23, 2012

Strobe posted:

Guys Snap Shot can work with R3 Astromech, and you can fit that, AT, the new tech that is basically defensive weapon focus for 34 points. If it goes off you get a statically assured automatic three evades against a target of your choice when AT is in play.

Pre-EDIT: gently caress, R3 is primary only.

Goddammit FFG is the pool of things that can use R3 and wants to use a secondary weapon really so large that distinction was necessary.

You just gotta believe in the Wedge life man.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 03:02

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Opportunist (4)
Snap Shot (2)
Vectored Thrusters (2)

Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Opportunist (4)
Snap Shot (2)
Vectored Thrusters (2)

Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Opportunist (4)
Snap Shot (2)
Vectored Thrusters (2)

Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Opportunist (4)
Snap Shot (2)
Vectored Thrusters (2)

Total: 100

Guys I think I found my favorite (and the most thematic hands down) use for Snap Shot.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 03:46

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Vectored Thrusters worth it over Autothrusters in that build?

# ? Sep 20, 2016 03:48

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 09:35

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Getting to where a given ship is going to end up in front of you at range one? Absolutely.

# ? Sep 20, 2016 03:51

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