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iospace posted:Meanwhile, PPP comes out with a poll that pretty much dunks on Ryan: hahahaha what the gently caress, people are still advocating privatizing social security? you'd think that 2008 would have shown that that was a really bad idea.
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Instant Sunrise posted:hahahaha what the gently caress, people are still advocating privatizing social security? I mean, the entire Republican ethos is built around using social conservatism and racism as a smoke screen to cover the efforts of corporate raiders to privatize, loot, and obliterate government programs for their own corrupt enrichment. So yeah, they're still trying to convince people how great an idea that is.
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Instant Sunrise posted:hahahaha what the gently caress, people are still advocating privatizing social security? This is the same GOP that said it needed to pass immigration reform /yesterday/ in 2012. You can figure out what happened.
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Instant Sunrise posted:hahahaha what the gently caress, people are still advocating privatizing social security? Well, is the Republican Party still active in politics? Are the Kochs still breathing?
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Elizabeth Warren with some good stuff re: Wells Fargo: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/sen-elizabeth-warren-tears-wells-fargo-ceo-john-stumpf
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saltylopez posted:Elizabeth Warren with some good stuff re: Wells Fargo:
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Instant Sunrise posted:hahahaha what the gently caress, people are still advocating privatizing social security? We are in a nation where Trump is taken seriously. Worshipping big business is bigger than ever.
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Lightning Knight posted:This kind of makes sense, in the same way that Japanese/Chinese/Korean people hating each other makes sense. Just because they may appear to be the same to outsiders doesn't mean they aren't very different in practice and have weird, convoluted, hateful histories and baggage with each other. Honestly it seems to be a hold over from the Spanish. Basically the more Spanish a group perceives themselves the better they are than those they perceive as "less" Spanish. Except your group is always The Most Spanish and everyone else is less and less Spanish, with like, Mexico and Puerto Rico seemingly the most poo poo on. Some stupid casta holdover poo poo basically.
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iospace posted:In other news, direct tweet from Hillary time: Has she ever addressed any of the shootings directly like this?
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Man ask some African Black people about American Black people and vice versa and you can get some amazing responses.
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On Terra Firma posted:Has she ever addressed any of the shootings directly like this? Not a shooting but I'm positive she called out Sandra Bland's case by name, and Rice was directly talked about. Plus she's been involved with groups like...I wanna say the one started by Trayvon's mom? She's been very involved in this issue directly.
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On Terra Firma posted:Has she ever addressed any of the shootings directly like this? She met with Tamir Rice's mother. Also, all those relatives of police shooting victims had an thing at the convention, so I'm sure she's been involved with their group.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Everyone is insufferable. If we're voting for the Most Insufferable Leader it really should be Stein 2016 shouldn't it? I mean Stein is closer to my politics but she is infinitely more insufferable.
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iospace posted:In other news, direct tweet from Hillary time: Let's watch the media equate this with Trump's latest tirade under the ever-popular "race politics" label.
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Spaced God posted:https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/778209202095415296 
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theflyingorc posted:I don't think that's what he was saying hi you're arguing with fishmech
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Dexo posted:Man ask some African Black people about American Black people and vice versa and you can get some amazing responses. Could you list some typical responses/interactions?
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Spaced God posted:https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/778209202095415296 You say that as if this is a change. "Filthy savages are raping our white women" has been their battle cry since the beginning. Lightning Knight posted:I mean, the entire Republican ethos is built around using social conservatism and racism as a smoke screen to cover the efforts of corporate raiders to privatize, loot, and obliterate government programs for their own corrupt enrichment. So yeah, they're still trying to convince people how great an idea that is. Yup. Trump has been upping the corporate raiding promise, so he's had to ramp up the racism to compensate so his followers fight for rich people screwing them so long as brown people get screwed harder more than ever.
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Geostomp posted:You say that as if this is a change. "Filthy savages are raping our white women" has been their battle cry since the beginning. It isn't so much the content as the return of it being so brazen and open.
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fits my needs posted:Could you list some typical responses/interactions? USPol August.
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Dexo posted:Man ask some African Black people about American Black people and vice versa and you can get some amazing responses. yeah it can be...weird listening to an american black man talk about how all the somalians coming over get big government money and stipends i didn't really know what to say (so i just said huh interesting and went back to work)
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I like that Trump and his Breitbart handlers are like "Hmmm, where should we take inspiration from for our immigration policies?" *eyes are drawn to signed copy of Mein Kampf on bookshelf, next to human-skin lamp* "OF COURSE!"
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Cthulhumatic posted:I like that Trump and his Breitbart handlers are like "Hmmm, where should we take inspiration from for our immigration policies?" They're not cool enough to have a human skin lamp.
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Cthulhumatic posted:I like that Trump and his Breitbart handlers are like "Hmmm, where should we take inspiration from for our immigration policies?"
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Super interesting NYT article out today on the importance of sample adjusting and why polls can seem so crazy. Very good read if you're not familiar with exactly how all the behind-the-scenes weighting stuff happens. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/20/upshot/the-error-the-polling-world-rarely-talks-about.html Hopefully a takeaway from this isn't "all polls are trash," because they're not, but there's a lot of room for interpretation even in raw data.
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Remember, some people have convinced themselves that trump only has a problem with illegal (non white) immigrants, not all (non white) immigrants.
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Since news about the Trump charity might be gearing up, add this story from yesterday in The Daily Beast to the mix, It's not as in depth as the WaPo stuff but, it's a nice roundup of how the Trump camp is getting nervous.
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Aerox posted:Super interesting NYT article out today on the importance of sample adjusting and why polls can seem so crazy. Very good read if you're not familiar with exactly how all the behind-the-scenes weighting stuff happens.
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WampaLord posted:He would win with 90% of the vote. It doesn't matter what your gender is!!
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radical meme posted:Since news about the Trump charity might be gearing up, add this story from yesterday in The Daily Beast to the mix, It's not as in depth as the WaPo stuff but, it's a nice roundup of how the Trump camp is getting nervous. While I absolutely know it wouldn't happen, him going to prison over his 'charity' after he loses would be the absolute icing on the cake.
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Geostomp posted:You say that as if this is a change. "Filthy savages are raping our white women" has been their battle cry since the beginning. Found a sneak preview of Jr.'s next tweet: 
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Another conspiracy theory has hit the health narrative http://www.theamericanmirror.com/mystery-going-hillarys-eyes-philly-speech/
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Night10194 posted:While I absolutely know it wouldn't happen, him going to prison over his 'charity' after he loses would be the absolute icing on the cake. I don't think these are prison crimes, but this story spinning up also means the media gets another shot at the Bondi bribe, which would be like impossible to prove but might be a prison crime.
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By the way - that "dead even in Maine" poll from earlier came from the Maine People's Resource Center. I don't want to denigrate the good people of the MPRC, but they're likely to not have the methodology/resources of a larger polling firm, so I wouldn't put TOO much stock in them. They have a C rating on 538.
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theflyingorc posted:By the way - that "dead even in Maine" poll from earlier came from the Maine People's Resource Center. I don't want to denigrate the good people of the MPRC, but they're likely to not have the methodology/resources of a larger polling firm, so I wouldn't put TOO much stock in them. Yeah, it's why I think Wisconsin is blessed to have Marquette. We'll occasionally get other people polling here, but Marquette is definitely one of the best in terms of state specific polling groups.
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Cthulhumatic posted:I like that Trump and his Breitbart handlers are like "Hmmm, where should we take inspiration from for our immigration policies?" Periodical reminder that Ivana Trump has said he kept a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand. I know so goddamn much horrible trivia about Trump, it's amazing. I feel like I should use this power for something good.
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Antti posted:Periodical reminder that Ivana Trump has said he kept a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand. Yeah but he also doesn't read so we're safe
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On Terra Firma posted:Has she ever addressed any of the shootings directly like this? She had 4 mothers for the most high profile police killing black kid cases speak at the DNC and IIRC she personally has met with all of them. It's one of those things that's easy to miss since she doesn't brag about that sort of thing at all and you actually have to pay attention to see that she actually does give quite a lot of fucks about it.
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