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Carlosologist posted:In Dhurke's defense, he had no idea that Trucy and Apollo were related We'll they're only half related, and Japan. So maybe... just maybeeeee....
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Ziggy Tzardust posted:Agreed. I'm playing through the last case of AAI2 right now and I really like how the game kind of calls you out for basically bullying a child throughout the entire game. Debeste had a good character arc and I'd like to see him again in some capacity (maybe as Edgeworth's Apollo/Athena) I wouldn't say "bullying." Everyone else treats him like poo poo, but Edgey is the first person to actually challenge Sebastian, which is what kicks off his character arc.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I'll admit my memory is a bit fuzzy since I beat the case late last night but uh case 5 stuff: given the time period the AA games take place in, Jove woulda died in 2005. are we seriously implying that despite the fact that people knew that a famous(?) musician was one of the people who died - The judge even comments that he seemed to know who he was, that no one could punch his name into the internet and find a picture of him in 23 years? I know Kur'ain is sorta old timey but out of all the dumb stuff in AA I find that a little too absurd. I got the impression that he was just a guy traveling with his guitar, wife, and infant son, not that he had any fame outside of Khur'ain. (Which seems to be a very small country anyway.)
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Waffleman_ posted:5-3 sucks because Athena and Juniper don't kiss. ftfy
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Sep 20, 2016 20:05
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Likewise, 6-2 sucks because Betty and Trucy don't kiss.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:25
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5-3 did at least give you a fantastic sidekick who understandably never got around to doing any sidekicking in AA6.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:28
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Did they ever explain (spoilers for the whole game) how they were able to conduct a murder trial for the Queen without the obvious issue that it wouldn't have been possible to perform a Divination Seance for her? Datz mentions that those used to be "just another piece of evidence" so they definitely still existed back then. Did Ga'ran just play it off like she didn't need one or something?
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Sep 20, 2016 20:39
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Good partners for investigating are what make them fun or boring. 6-3 was a ton of fun to investigate for that very reason.
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Sep 20, 2016 20:47
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Honestly, I think investigations have always been the low points of the game and have always been annoyed when trials moved on to the second day. I'm glad that they've been downplaying that, or at least making the second day wildly different instead of a continuation of the same investigation.
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Clarste posted:Honestly, I think investigations have always been the low points of the game and have always been annoyed when trials moved on to the second day. I'm glad that they've been downplaying that, or at least making the second day wildly different instead of a continuation of the same investigation.
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13/f/cali posted:Did they ever explain (spoilers for the whole game) how they were able to conduct a murder trial for the Queen without the obvious issue that it wouldn't have been possible to perform a Divination Seance for her? Datz mentions that those used to be "just another piece of evidence" so they definitely still existed back then. Did Ga'ran just play it off like she didn't need one or something?
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Lurdiak posted:hosed up that Juniper didn't even get mentioned in this game. I want Juniper to show up in AA7 as a judge, with Hugh and Robin as assisting defense and prosecution. Did you catch the bit later in Case 5, Investigation 2 where they open the locket and Athena starts teasing Dhurke about liking younger women? When Dhurke points out he was younger in the picture too Athena replies "aw, that's no fun." TheKingofSprings posted:Gonna cross my fingers Sad Monk is the seance victim we see in Khura'in (is that how it's spelled) next game That's a weird way to spell out "courting Ema Skye."  TheKingofSprings posted:My big hope is one day they'll take advantage of all the models they now have and have a different defence and prosecutor for every case. This is exactly what I want from AA7 as an Athena-centric game and maybe give her Franny Von Karma as her endgame rival. That and for Athena to start turning her back to prosecutors and witnesses as both a callback to Blackquill and because she doesn't need to see them to hear the discord.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:I want Juniper to show up in AA7 as a judge, with Hugh and Robin as assisting defense and prosecution. I'm all for this if it ends up with a scene where she and Blackquill are showing their back to each other... Because they're too dorky to be the first one to turn back around.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:That's a weird way to spell out "courting Ema Skye." That's what they said about Klavier before he mysteriously dropped down a well E: And Nahyuta's somehow more insufferable than that glimmerous fop
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Did you catch the bit later in Case 5, Investigation 2 where they open the locket and Athena starts teasing Dhurke about liking younger women? When Dhurke points out he was younger in the picture too Athena replies "aw, that's no fun." I don't want to think about that too hard. It's a little disturbing! 
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Sep 20, 2016 21:54
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Athena was saying it was no fun because she wanted to gossip about Dhurke's love life. It's no fun because it means he's still single and therefore there's nothing to talk about.
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Clarste posted:Athena was saying it was no fun because she wanted to gossip about Dhurke's love life. It's no fun because it means he's still single and therefore there's nothing to talk about. lol how is this not obvious
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Sep 20, 2016 22:01
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Apollo needs to find a good girl his age in Khura'in to shack up with.
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Sep 20, 2016 22:01
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Unfortunately they were all tried and executed under the Love Interest Culpability Act.
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I should probably stop reading this thread for a while
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Clarste posted:Honestly, I think investigations have always been the low points of the game and have always been annoyed when trials moved on to the second day. I'm glad that they've been downplaying that, or at least making the second day wildly different instead of a continuation of the same investigation.
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Just finished. Not sure quite how I feel about it yet, but the game is definitely far better than Dual Destinies was. Final case big spoiler: I really liked the twist where Dhurke was dead the entire time, and Apollo only reconciled and had adventures with channeled-him. Good twist. Meowywitch fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Case 5-1 and ending spoilers I really want Armie to be Ema's assistant/detective in her own right in AA7 and maybe for her and Rayfa to be Apollo's collective bratty little sisters  This is a real good game, Dual Destinies was good too but it felt much less memorable except for Blackquill, Ted Tonate, and Fullbright. It's kind of a greatest hits of JFA and Trials but those are good rear end games to rip off from, and it still feels fresh. And the ideas for AA7 are really strong, especially given the ending.
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Solaris Knight posted:Case 5-1 and ending spoilers I really want Armie to be Ema's assistant/detective in her own right in AA7 and maybe for her and Rayfa to be Apollo's collective bratty little sisters With Apollo leaving the nest there is clearly place in the Wright family for one more kid, and they should adopt Armie. She can be Athena's new assistant in the next game.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:With Apollo leaving the nest there is clearly place in the Wright family for one more kid, and they should adopt Armie. She can be Athena's new assistant in the next game. I think Armie and Athena would be a good pairing, as Athena is kind of an airhead in investigations, and Armie drilling her to stay on task while doing some kid things would be cool and cute to see
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Alright, I'm stuck on case 5. doing insights, I've proven that Datz made the explosion sound through the phone, but I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to see because of that. This divination in general seems really reaching, like the past two contradictions were "that's weird" instead of "this doesn't make sense".
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Momomo posted:Alright, I'm stuck on case 5. doing insights, I've proven that Datz made the explosion sound through the phone, but I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to see because of that. This divination in general seems really reaching, like the past two contradictions were "that's weird" instead of "this doesn't make sense". What else in Khura'in makes a lion's roar. At least I think that's where you're at or I may have the orders backwards. Edit: I think you're past what I said, I believe you want the first part where it mentions the time? The murder didn't happen based on a certain statement. 8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Already did that one, the dog sound is still there, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it.
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I think I got stuck at that point too - you need to connect the explosion to the 3pm statement or something like that.
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Momomo posted:Already did that one, the dog sound is still there, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it. Ignore that, with the information you've learned now up until that point, the murder didn't happen at 3.
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By the way, checked the Japanese script, the near-future timeline is present in the Japanese version too, it's not just a localization quirk.
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Got it, thanks guys. This case is...Well, it's going places.
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Waffleman_ posted:By the way, checked the Japanese script, the near-future timeline is present in the Japanese version too, it's not just a localization quirk. yeah, everything revolves around the date of DL-6 right? I do find it funny that the gap between AA4 and AA5 was just about as long as the in universe time skip
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Carlosologist posted:yeah, everything revolves around the date of DL-6 right? I do find it funny that the gap between AA4 and AA5 was just about as long as the in universe time skip The DL-6 file is literally the only time a year is mentioned in the series, yes. Everything else is relative from that.
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Solaris Knight posted:Case 5-1 and ending spoilers I really want Armie to be Ema's assistant/detective in her own right in AA7 and maybe for her and Rayfa to be Apollo's collective bratty little sisters Armie is my second-favorite non-main character in the game, after Datz, and she needs to return in a future game. Just too frickin' cool, and her character gave the designers the excuse they needed to have a drone testify. IT WAS GLORIOUS. I love every unconventional cross-examination, from the parrot to Shelly de Killer on the transceiver to Orla in DD's DLC case (made especially funny because the case mindfucks you into thinking you need to have the orca testify, only to swerve away, and then double back to it after all). Plus I thought it was the one circumstance where a gender reveal wasn't cheap, because it plays hard against people's stereotypes. You just assume Sarge has to be a boy, and the game sorta subtly shames you for making that assumption. Datz is the best, though. There's so much going on with him! He's dangerous, but also very silly, and a giant troll. I loved how his trolling with the firecrackers ended up being critical to the case. Granted, he's really annoying before he reveals who he is, and provides practically no new information for the case. but afterwards, he's wildly entertaining. Best new characters overall in the game: 1. Dhurke 2. Rayfa 3. Armie "Sarge" Buff 4. Datz Arebal 5. Betty and Bonny de Famme 6. Uendo 7. Ga'aran 8. Ahl'bi Ur'Gaid 9. Nahyuta 10. Paul Atishan I'm kinda hoping the next game is an Athena showcase, where she finally comes into her own. I even got bored and thought of some ideas the other day. the obvious direction is the dangling plot thread of who was responsible for the Phantom being sent to infiltrate GYAXA, but also we never learned anything at all about Athena's father, as far as I can recall. I had a notion that the reason why could be that he was deliberately kept out of her life. I mean, he could be dead, or Metis could've had a fling, but it seems more like this series to have her father end up significant in some way. I was also thinking of things they haven't done yet, in terms of twists and set-up. They haven't had a really strong female prosecutor (Franziska is not particularly great outside the Edgeworth games, and only got 2 1/2 cases). They haven't had an evil judge yet (although, how could they do that and make it work?). I thought about what if someone is brought to trial for a murder they did not commit, is acquitted, and then murders someone in the same manner to frame the person that committed the first murder (this only works if the culprit of the first murder flees court at the end of the first trial). Have they done a murder case where there's a crowd full of witnesses? Also they tend to go for stabbing, blunt force trauma, or strangulation. but there are more creative death methods. Poisoning is trickier to write a case around, but not impossible (they've managed it twice!), and I had an idea for a case involving drowning. idle, random thing: CAUSE OF DEATH LIST - AA1-1: blunt force trauma AA1-2: blunt force trauma AA1-3: stabbing wound AA1-4: gunshot AA1-5: stabbing wound JFA-1: fall from height JFA-2: gunshot JFA-3: blunt force trauma JFA-4: strangulation T&T-1: electrocution T&T-2: blunt force trauma T&T-3: poisoning T&T-4: stabbing wound T&T-5: stabbing wound AJ-1: blunt force trauma AJ-2: gunshot AJ-3: gunshot AJ-4: poisoning DD-1: blunt force trauma DD-2: stabbing wound DD-3: stabbing wound DD-4: stabbing wound DD-5: stabbing wound DD-DLC: fall from height SoJ-1: blunt force trauma SoJ-2: stabbing wound (when you get right down to it) SoJ-3: stabbing wound & stabbing wound SoJ-4: suffocation SoJ-5-1: blunt force trauma SoJ-5-2: stabbing wound
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I think that they've used the old judge for so long that if you swapped him out to have an evil judge, it'd be too obvious. It worked with Bobby because DD was kinda being marketed as the start of a new chapter of AA, and a new detective wasn't out of the question for that. And yes, the DL-C Incident is a full case.
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voltcatfish posted:The last DLC is a full case by the way, yeah? yup, it features the return of Larry
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Spatula City posted:
Personally, (Case 5 spoilers)I was wondering whether Sarge was a boy or a girl right up until the point where Apollo assumed she was a boy with no basis. After which I (correctly) assumed that she was going to turn out to be a girl because there's really not much other reason to hide someone's face like that.
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At first I thought sarge was female because why not this is Ace Attorney after all, then after the crying thought maybe hed be some immature twenty something guy, but nope I overthought it.
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