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A White Guy posted:So, to get this thread off fast food chat, Kamala Harris vs Loretta Sanchez? Both of them strike me as grey sunken cunts, but who's more cuntier? Inform me, fat goons. mmm yes that's a good way of referring to people
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i will vote for every single gun restriction until they repeal the second amendment It's refreshing that people are admitting that they're just voting out of spite rather than acting on any sort of reasonable purpose.
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Sep 21, 2016 00:05
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Instant Sunrise posted:Kamala Harris is actually pretty decent and Loretta Sanchez has said/done some really loving racist poo poo. kamala harris probably intentionally biases the naming of ballot initiatives and loretta sanchez likes to imitate native american stereotypes at public meetings so much that you can see it on youtube guess which one republicans prefer
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Sep 21, 2016 00:28
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:kamala harris probably intentionally biases the naming of ballot initiatives and loretta sanchez likes to imitate native american stereotypes at public meetings so much that you can see it on youtube Harris also had that weird extrajudicial cop-cult thing happening on her watch i mean you should still probably vote for her, its just something i feel obligated to bring up because what the heck
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Sep 21, 2016 00:31
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Dead Reckoning posted:It's refreshing that people are admitting that they're just voting out of spite rather than acting on any sort of reasonable purpose. It's really my only issue that I feel like this. We need to treat gun owners the same way we treat smokers. You put any proposition in front of me that makes gun ownership a tiny bit more inconvenient and I will vote for it every time.
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Sep 21, 2016 00:36
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paranoid randroid posted:Harris also had that weird extrajudicial cop-cult thing happening on her watch Googling this and it's pretty great: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-masonic-police-20150702-story.html quote:The trio accused of running a so-called Masonic police department created the agency in an attempt to improve relations between African Americans and law enforcement, said a lawyer for one of the three defendants. Love the picture in the article, too:  Masons are some nutty folk.
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Sep 21, 2016 01:56
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Panfilo posted:I enjoy animal style fries but have no illusions that I'm eating a slurry of thousand island dressing, American cheese, grilled onions and the mashed potato remnants of their soggy French fries. I really quite miss living in a state where every bar with food had at least half-decent poutine.
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Sep 21, 2016 02:22
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In-n-out fries aren't chemical company creations. As such, they won't keep. Not even for as long as it takes to eat your burger. Eat them first and they're delicious. Take them to-go and they wilt into nothingness.
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Sep 21, 2016 02:29
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A White Guy posted:So, to get this thread off fast food chat, Kamala Harris vs Loretta Sanchez? Both of them strike me as grey sunken cunts, but who's more cuntier? Inform me, fat goons. Harris is establishment and probably more than a little corrupt but she's a California DemocratTM and good luck finding one who isn't. Sanchez is the same but also hilariously and openly racist.
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Sep 21, 2016 02:30
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Sanchez is literally a Blue Dog Democrat. And not in the "any Democrat I disagree with is a Blue Dog" sense; she was actually a member of the now-defunct caucus. Here's their dumb logo:  Edit: Apparently not defunct. They still boast a whopping 14 members after the Tea Party wave crushed them. Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Sep 21, 2016 02:35
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Dead Reckoning posted:It's refreshing that people are admitting that they're just voting out of spite rather than acting on any sort of reasonable purpose. There's no such thing as a reasonable gun control bill to the gun people, so I may as well go in for the unreasonable ones.
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Sep 21, 2016 02:47
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Ron Jeremy posted:In-n-out fries aren't chemical company creations. As such, they won't keep. Not even for as long as it takes to eat your burger. Eat them first and they're delicious. Take them to-go and they wilt into nothingness. Order them well done and they're 5x better.
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Sep 21, 2016 02:48
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Aerox posted:Order them well done and they're 5x better. That's the way my wife likes em. I prefer the normal doneness.
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Litany Unheard posted:Sanchez is literally a Blue Dog Democrat. And not in the "any Democrat I disagree with is a Blue Dog" sense; she was actually a member of the now-defunct caucus. even their logo is shook
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Sep 21, 2016 02:54
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StandardVC10 posted:There's no such thing as a reasonable gun control bill to the gun people, so I may as well go in for the unreasonable ones. what about the ones governor-saint reagan enacted
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Sep 21, 2016 02:58
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NAT-T Ice posted:I really quite miss living in a state where every bar with food had at least half-decent poutine. Wouldn't that be a province?
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Sep 21, 2016 03:43
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Progressive JPEG posted:Wouldn't that be a province? Wisconsin and Minnesota have it too.
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Sep 21, 2016 04:22
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StandardVC10 posted:There's no such thing as a reasonable gun control bill to the gun people, so I may as well go in for the unreasonable ones. I mean, if you want to go with legislating on the basis of "gently caress those people I don't like", that's a thing you can do, but you can't really turn around afterwards and get mad about mandatory minimums or enslaving death row inmates, since it's the exact same logic.
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Sep 21, 2016 07:22
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I agree, gun control doesn't work. Repeal the 2nd already.
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Sep 21, 2016 07:34
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Dead Reckoning posted:This argument, aside from being intellectually bankrupt, is especially hilarious because everything that might be informally called "reasonable" gun control has already been law in California for a decade+, yet it didn't stop us from having an Islamic terrorist mass shooting last year and hasn't had any effect on our violent crime rate. You're more or less admitting at this point that you're passing bills for the sole purpose of loving gun owners for having the temerity to exist in a reality where your preferred policy solutions don't actually solve problems, despite no one being able to articulate even the thinnest fig leaf justification for how they will improve public safety. Seriously, which do you want to argue with a straight face, that people supplying illegal guns to felons will draw the line at also supplying illegal ammo, or that someone who has plotted out a lone wolf mass casualty attack while building homemade IEDs is going to be deterred by having to drive a few hours to get ammo? Nice Gish Gallop
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Sep 21, 2016 07:50
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Dead Reckoning posted:You're more or less admitting at this point that you're passing bills for the sole purpose of loving gun owners for having the temerity to exist excellent point  outlawing gun ownership, mandatory prison sentences, and the death row does indeed look like some sound logic tho sign me the hell up H.P. Hovercraft fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Sep 21, 2016 07:54
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Trabisnikof posted:Nice Gish Gallop H.P. Hovercraft posted:excellent point
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Sep 21, 2016 07:59
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:excellent point Raise taxes to fund gun registration and subsequent confiscation of unregistered guns and incarceration of their former possessors.
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Sep 21, 2016 08:00
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Dead Reckoning posted:I always wondered what you would do when you encountered an argument that you disagreed with, but couldn't plausibly call racist. Your premise was "well golly jeemaking murder illegal doesn't work because murders still happen" and "you must hate gun owners if I disagree with you" so yeah this time you didn't say something racist, just dumb. Also lol at the idea I can only call people racist, way to ignore sexism, xenophobia, homophobia and other forms of bigotry.
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Sep 21, 2016 08:03
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NAT-T Ice posted:Wisconsin and Minnesota have it too. Not really. We have all sorts of delicious horrors of fried cheese products but almost never on fries with gravy.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Remember, kids, it's OK when our side does it... and low effort copy paste trolling is the best way to avoid addressing any point you can't refute logically. walk me thru the logic that fits for both outlawing guns and supporting death row enslavement and also mandatory minimum sentencing
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does it have something to do w/ prohibition? b/c once weed is legal you won't be able to commit crimes like robbing banks w/ it, unlike a gun
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FCKGW posted:I agree, gun control doesn't work. Repeal the 2nd already. I wouldn't let people like Dead Reckoning completely sour your view of all gun owners. Sadly, the political space around gun control has been all but taken up by the rabid anti-regulation types. Ironically, that fervor is what will eventually kill firearms as a civilian hobby. I try to impress this idea on to the gun hobbyists I know but most are of the "any regulation is tyranny" ilk.
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Bueno Papi posted:I wouldn't let people like Dead Reckoning completely sour your view of all gun owners. Sadly, the political space around gun control has been all but taken up by the rabid anti-regulation types. Ironically, that fervor is what will eventually kill firearms as a civilian hobby. I try to impress this idea on to the gun hobbyists I know but most are of the "any regulation is tyranny" ilk. i tend to see gun ownership advocates in the same way as bicycle advocates i own a bike, and ride it a lot, and wear a helmet and use proper lighting and encourage others to do so b/c it's important to share the road in a safe a respectful way i also design roads for a living and push to implement bike lanes and bike routes and make the facilities i can impact as bike friendly as possible (b/c i didn't go to school to build HighwayLand), especially w/ my bosses who make the "big" decisions w/ clients, and my firm has received good amounts of support from the bicycle advocacy movements that are local from the work that we've done bicycle advocates themselves are the worst, most self-defeating people i've ever had to interact w/ on a professional level, esp since i'm sympathetic to their needs and push for nigh-ridiculous things like cutting vehicular travel lanes in favor of separated bike paths and right-of-way buys to accommodate safer shared routes. but it's never enough - i'm a young guy who didn't own a car for years in favor of biking everywhere and even i find myself distancing myself from these nutbars who come to public meetings and argue for the elimination of personal cars entirely i'm sure there are bicycle advocates who aren't lunatics and can appreciate it when a city or county makes a concerted effort to expand their bike lane networks, but these aren't the people making noise about it
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Trabisnikof posted:Your premise was "well golly jeemaking murder illegal doesn't work because murders still happen" and "you must hate gun owners if I disagree with you" so yeah this time you didn't say something racist, just dumb. H.P. Hovercraft posted:walk me thru the logic that fits for both outlawing guns and supporting death row enslavement and also mandatory minimum sentencing Bueno Papi posted:I wouldn't let people like Dead Reckoning completely sour your view of all gun owners. Sadly, the political space around gun control has been all but taken up by the rabid anti-regulation types. Ironically, that fervor is what will eventually kill firearms as a civilian hobby. I try to impress this idea on to the gun hobbyists I know but most are of the "any regulation is tyranny" ilk. Also, what societal problem do you think gun control solves? E: It's also pretty telling that you assumed that I'm some sort of zealot who thinks that there should be no regulation of guns at all because I'm opposed to further expanding current regulations. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:"It's OK to vote for laws that don't actually serve any legitimate public policy goal and only exist to gently caress with people I dislike." wait so do you think that outlawing guns and outlawing minimum sentencing and outlawing enslaving death row inmates all don't serve any legitimate public policy goals? or did you get ahead of yourself here
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Dead Reckoning posted:"Guys, prohibition went super well with booze, and is going swimmingly with drugs, so I'm just certain that prohibiting guns is a great idea." Was your whole point seriously that there is no point in looking at the effectiveness of a law, and that you are incapable of distinguishing between punishing someone for causing harm and prior restraint on harmless behavior? Herm, either you can't understand that gun sales and use restrictions aren't the same as banning all guns or you're not really looking to argue in good faith, I wonder which it is....
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:wait so do you think that outlawing guns and outlawing minimum sentencing and outlawing enslaving death row inmates all don't serve any legitimate public policy goals? No, I think that neither strict gun control nor mandatory minimums nor enslaving death row inmates serve any legitimate public policy goal. Trabisnikof posted:Herm, either you can't understand that gun sales and use restrictions aren't the same as banning all guns or you're not really looking to argue in good faith, I wonder which it is.... You still haven't answered the original question: do you think it matters whether or not a law successfully addresses a legitimate public policy goal? Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Herm, either you can't understand that gun sales and use restrictions aren't the same as banning all guns or you're not really looking to argue in good faith, I wonder which it is.... well idk conflating alcohol and firearms seems like it makes sense i mean they're controlled by the same federal bureau
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Dead Reckoning posted:No, I think that neither strict gun control nor mandatory minimums nor enslaving death row inmates serve any legitimate public policy goal. well that's funny b/c by your earlier logic that laws which exist sheerly for the sake of spite or "loving w/ people" should not exist, i'd place private gun ownership squarely into that category since it serves no legitimate public policy goal whatsoever so you're right it should be eliminated entirely
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:well that's funny b/c by your earlier logic that laws which exist sheerly for the sake of spite or "loving w/ people" should not exist, i'd place private gun ownership squarely into that category since it serves no legitimate public policy goal whatsoever
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Dead Reckoning posted:You still haven't answered the original question: do you think it matters whether or not a law successfully addresses a legitimate public policy goal? Keeping people who have domestic violence convictions from having guns is a legitimate public policy goal.
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Keep at it goons, surely this will be the thread that resolves the gun debate.
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Humid-rear end Inland Empire weather can gently caress right off!
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