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I was planning on ignoring the gamblers in DR2, but sounds like they are way less annoying now.
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Just bought DR2OTR again... Thanks guys.
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Sep 20, 2016 00:33
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Rirse posted:I was planning on ignoring the gamblers in DR2, but sounds like they are way less annoying now. They are. I took a lot of notes on the poker game back when DR2 was new, because I got unduly obsessed with pulling off a "perfect run," and the original version of the poker game was probably the single biggest blockade to that. If everything went absolutely right you could still count on spending a good three or four game hours on it. The poker players being active means that just one or two other simultaneous survivor missions can lock you out of a few important things that are going on at the same time, not least of which is the initial window in which to meet the "Tape It or Die" crew, because of the eight-survivor hard cap. Recently, however, the players still pursue their individual strategies, but they're a lot more reckless, which tends to end the game faster. Jessica's plan is to bet the farm on the slightest provocation, because she's apparently based on Jennifer Tilly, whose entire poker strategy is "wear a low-cut dress." She's counting on you being distracted. Conversely, Nevada wants to get out ahead of everyone else, then buy each hand with extravagant bets that he can nonetheless afford, so he's a non-entity unless he's in the lead. Jacob's the one you have to watch out for, as he plays the most conservatively and wants to draw the game out for as long as possible. Still, with all three gambling magazines, you're pretty much guaranteed to draw two high face cards, and you can generally tell when the poker players think they have something, as they'll actually start to raise the stakes.
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Sep 20, 2016 00:34
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Does that one survivor in the vanilla version of DR2 still shoot himself immediately if you're playing co-op and one of you isn't right next to help when the other is talking to him? Like the game programs him to do it if you start to walk away from him in single player because he's suicidal but it interprets the co-op partner who's farther away as doing that action I think. I think he was one of the only survivors who was removed/replaced in OTR because of that, in addition to a few others like that promotional Playboy bunny survivor that's already saved at the start of the game. That was a weird promotion DR2 had.
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Sep 20, 2016 02:25
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Does that one survivor in the vanilla version of DR2 still shoot himself immediately if you're playing co-op and one of you isn't right next to help when the other is talking to him? Like the game programs him to do it if you start to walk away from him in single player because he's suicidal but it interprets the co-op partner who's farther away as doing that action I think. The playboy bunny is still in OtR, but she had whole model replaced. http://deadrising.wikia.com/wiki/Lulu_Barra
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Sep 20, 2016 02:54
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Hate to double post, but man I forgot how much of a pain Brandon is in Dead Rising 2. I know he mandatory in Off the Record, but he a lot easier over there. Also he probably one of the few times it better to not take anyone with you, as he was tearing through the HP of the nerd club like it was nothing before I got killed by his knife attack that seems to do 4 blocks of HP of damage.
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Sep 21, 2016 18:30
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Yeah, Brandon can easily be a survivor-killer if you aren't careful, and in my experience you tend to encounter him at a point when you're not very well-equipped, if you've been racing around trying to rescue everyone prior to him showing up. As for the survivors in DR1 to DR2, it always seemed funny to me because it felt like they swapped their gameplay-to-storyline roles. In DR1 the survivors were mostly all fairly realistic terrified folk trying to get to safety or barricade themselves in somewhere, but were dumb as bricks in actual gameplay and completely incapable of caring for themselves. In DR2 they were dramatically, dramatically more effective fighters.... but as if to compensate, they all became completely moronic assholes in the narrative. You were more or less required to beg them to let you escort them to safety, as you used to have to do in the actual gameplay component of DR1.
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Sep 21, 2016 19:10
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My single biggest criticism of DR2 is its heavy reliance on 2000s-era "random" humor, yeah. Half the survivors and most of the psychopaths are just stupid. There are a few eccentric survivors in DR2 that I don't mind, like Kirsten the showgirl (she shows up early enough in the game that it's believable that she got super drunk the night before and has only now gotten up) or even Andy the suicidal guy, but after replaying it recently, it's hard not to want to throw a lot of them to the zombies yourself. Bill's the one everyone complains about (pay me $35,000 or I'm staying right here), but the one that really gets me is Woodrow, the bank president who's emptying out the cash machines. Funny story: at least in OTR, I'm pretty sure Woodrow is the only survivor that you're actually rewarded for killing. He gives you something like fifty grand if you rescue him, plus whatever you get from following him around, since he constantly drops $100 bills as he runs. If you kill him yourself and open his money case, it has $250,000 in it.
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Sep 21, 2016 19:37
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Wanderer posted:My single biggest criticism of DR2 is its heavy reliance on 2000s-era "random" humor, yeah. Half the survivors and most of the psychopaths are just stupid. OTR/DR I think suffers from the fact that the first game was considered funny but at least part of the humor was unintentional or more subdued then it was made out to be and unfortunately the reputation (combined with the developer switch) made them try a bit too hard to force what came naturally to the first game. This isn't an uncommon thing especially with games that get a reputation for being wacky or humorous but it stands out a lot.
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Sep 21, 2016 19:40
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Compare Adam the Clown in DR 1 to his brother Evan in OTR, Adam is shown as a deadly threat who has a pretty sad reason for being the way he is, Evan is played the total opposite, there's wacky music playing when he shows up, he rants about ice cream and drives a literal Butt Car.
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Sep 21, 2016 19:56
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Off the Record's tone change was for the better, I think. Dead Rising 3 showed off very well what would happen if the series continued Dead Rising 2's uphill climb on the seriousness scale (the result is a really bland story) edit: Off the Record was made for people who beat Dead Rising 1 with a fuckbillion zombie kills through sheer hours spent dicking around except for the psychos and wearing the servbot helmet. But I could take either tone tbh, I just like the series in general. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Sep 21, 2016 20:08
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To be fair Evan's actually funny for only one reason: The brother to the murderous clown you killed wants revenge. And is also a murderous clown.
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Sep 21, 2016 20:13
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It's also weird just how jokey and talkative Frank West is in OTR compared to DR1. Frank is silent for a lot of cut scenes (mostly for the psycho scenes) and doesn't really quip that much. In OTR, he comments on a lot of things even when just walking around or running into survivors. Not that I mind, but it's just funny.
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Sep 21, 2016 20:37
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Ryuga Death posted:It's also weird just how jokey and talkative Frank West is in OTR compared to DR1. Frank is silent for a lot of cut scenes (mostly for the psycho scenes) and doesn't really quip that much. In OTR, he comments on a lot of things even when just walking around or running into survivors. Not that I mind, but it's just funny. Yeah, Frank in OTR does a lot of winking into the camera, because Capcom got it into its head that Frank himself was the major draw of Dead Rising. It's also why he's in so many crossover games. In-game, it's sort of vaguely justified by Frank having gone seriously Hollywood in the five years between games, and he has sort of an arc in OTR about it. He's significantly less of a douche by the end of the game than he is at the start.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:24
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Frank's best moment in OTR was also definitely his least humorous or zany, in my opinion; when he cleans house with the special forces soldiers and smashes all of the zombie-harvesting machines, and then very calmly and matter-of-factly tells the villain that he's on his way to kill her.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:29
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Backhand posted:Frank's best moment in OTR was also definitely his least humorous or zany, in my opinion; when he cleans house with the special forces soldiers and smashes all of the zombie-harvesting machines, and then very calmly and matter-of-factly tells the villain that he's on his way to kill her. leon kennedy
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Sep 21, 2016 21:31
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the best moment is when he shouts hes on vacation when you go into sandbox mode
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Sep 21, 2016 21:33
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I ran into a bug during sandbox where after watching Mutant Crunch in the movie theater, the game is stuck on a permanent loading screen. Doesn't seem to happy with any other movies so far. I really hope Capcom goes back and touches up DR2/OTR. Is there a good place to post about these issues?
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Sep 21, 2016 21:38
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Backhand posted:Frank's best moment in OTR was also definitely his least humorous or zany, in my opinion; when he cleans house with the special forces soldiers and smashes all of the zombie-harvesting machines, and then very calmly and matter-of-factly tells the villain that he's on his way to kill her. Also the part where he knows she's about to monologue so he literally takes a seat and waits it out.
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Sep 22, 2016 02:13
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Wanderer posted:Capcom got it into its head that Frank himself was the major draw of Dead Rising. It's also why he's in so many crossover games. Good, took them long enough 
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Sep 22, 2016 02:48
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To be fair, Frank is a fairly unique protagonist in that he's older and not overly physically attractive and a bit of a gigantic rear end in a top hat. He's unlikable but in a weird way, that makes him more likable too because he's put in a world full of the typical Capcom stupidity. It's why Frank and Chuck somehow work in the setting but Nick sticks out like a sore thumb because in the cutscenes, Nick is the one who takes things the most seriously compared to Chuck's Clint Eastwood-esque stoicism and Frank's endearing obnoxiousness.
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Sep 22, 2016 06:23
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngw33ALUT7I If anyone's interested, this is one of the earliest trailers for the original Dead Rising, which was made with a relatively early beta version of the game. It was a bit hard to find.
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Sep 22, 2016 09:29
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I remember watching that, I was so psyched at the time! Zombies! You get to play around in an open world loving with zombies! Zombies games are such a new and novel idea! *10 years later...*
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Wanderer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngw33ALUT7I Ahh yes, the trailer that made me buy an Xbox 360. Still good. Love that ending when the music picks up, Frank starts using random dumb items to fight zombies and suddenly wrestling.
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Sep 22, 2016 11:23
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After a few "I will try all in and hope they don't fall for my bluff on my lovely hand" failures, I beat the poker players after about a hour of failed tries and me figuring I should go kill the postman so I don't have him waiting for me when I take the shortcut. The last match was hilarious since Neveda and Jakob both tried to do a high bid and immediately got knocked out. Which is good since Jessica likes to bid on bad hands, so didn't last very long. And I have plenty of time to do the Tape It Or Die quest while dealing with
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Sep 23, 2016 02:58
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It's probably a bit weird that the nostalgia for Dead Rising 1 for me stems from watching all of OatmealRaisin's LP. Since I never had a 360 it always had a mystic to it, and how intense and sometimes frustrating the stuff I saw in the LP peaked my interest. Color me surprised when I get True ending in my first playthrough of this PC port. I didn't remember all the special tricks but having the subconscious knowledge of what to do definitely helped ease stress. I didn't attempt to save all the survivors though cus gently caress THAT.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:14
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Wanderer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngw33ALUT7I I love the part where they're jumping around doing crazy moves with the toy laser sword, but of course none of the zombies are actually dying because it's a plastic toy. Are those Totally-Not-Star-Wars animations even in the final game? I never tried using the toy laser sword because it's totally useless.
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Sep 23, 2016 17:23
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It's in the final game for sure. Pretty sure there's unlockable weapons with the same animations, too.
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Gathering the Bombs under the mall is still an awful experience, its made even more fun by being swarmed by thousands of zombies and Carlito driving into you and throwing grenades a lot.
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Sep 24, 2016 16:49
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Rirse posted:After a few "I will try all in and hope they don't fall for my bluff on my lovely hand" failures, I beat the poker players after about a hour of failed tries and me figuring I should go kill the postman so I don't have him waiting for me when I take the shortcut. The last match was hilarious since Neveda and Jakob both tried to do a high bid and immediately got knocked out. Which is good since Jessica likes to bid on bad hands, so didn't last very long. And I have plenty of time to do the Tape It Or Die quest while dealing with i remember the 2 times i played through DR2 i literally just immediately did all in on every hand and they folded themselves to death because they eventually weren't able to pay the ante
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Hey guys, Thought I'd ask in this megathread as I didn't see any mention of it in the OP. I have win10 and an X1 controller, but Dead Rising 2: OTR does not seem to allow me to enable my controller in the PC Settings. The option is greyed out. I've tried updating the drivers for it and plugging the controller in before launch and after launch. Any suggestions/help would be very appreciated. Thanks.
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Sep 24, 2016 19:26
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Judge Tesla posted:Gathering the Bombs under the mall is still an awful experience, its made even more fun by being swarmed by thousands of zombies and Carlito driving into you and throwing grenades a lot. Untouchables are a god send down there, you can also kill the truck technically.
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Sep 24, 2016 19:30
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ApeEscape posted:Hey guys, My friend has this problem and he tells me that apparently a recent update sort of hosed the xbone controller's xinput http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/08/xbox-one-controllers-and-windows-10-pcs-its-all-a-mess-right-now/
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fruitpunch posted:My friend has this problem and he tells me that apparently a recent update sort of hosed the xbone controller's xinput I'm pretty sure it's a problem with the game, not the controller's drivers. I googled it and it looks like quite a few people encountered the same problem with OTR, even with 360 pads.
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Sep 25, 2016 02:55
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Judge Tesla posted:Gathering the Bombs under the mall is still an awful experience, its made even more fun by being swarmed by thousands of zombies and Carlito driving into you and throwing grenades a lot. The part that really was annoying is destroying Carlito's truck will send you randomly into a hallway full of zombies. Also I forgot how annoying the gas zombies were. Even the King Zombies in 3 were no where near as annoying as those fuckers. At least I can tell the King Zombies from the generic zombies, where the Gas Zombies tend to blend in. And getting grabbed when using a DS4 is annoying since the button prompts don't match the controller.
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Sep 25, 2016 04:30
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I loved Gas Zombies because they finally made zombies dangerous again after spending the whole game effortlessly slaughtering them. Escorting survivors with them around wasnt too bad either since the only ones left around that time were soldiers, Rebecca, and the tape it or die crew who were pretty easy to escort King Zombies were pointless and the only trouble I remember having with them is having to steer around them or have my super death car take a small amount of damage
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Sep 25, 2016 05:57
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I know you can escort Bibi and her hostages through the Gas Zombies in DR2 as her mission doesn't expire until after the Gas event starts, why you would want to do this is another matter entirely.
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Sep 25, 2016 14:53
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Judge Tesla posted:I know you can escort Bibi and her hostages through the Gas Zombies in DR2 as her mission doesn't expire until after the Gas event starts, why you would want to do this is another matter entirely. Oh lord that would make the part where you need to lure zombies to the stage and then save her be a pain.
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Sep 25, 2016 15:28
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Unit24 posted:I'm pretty sure it's a problem with the game, not the controller's drivers. I googled it and it looks like quite a few people encountered the same problem with OTR, even with 360 pads. Ah well that's even worse. What a ballache
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Is there a save game editor or trainer so I can unlock the real mega buster, laser sword, and Arthur's Boxers in DR1 on PC? I never bothered to get these achievements back when the game was relatively new and I sure as hell can't be bothered to grind for those things now.
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