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Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Party Plane Jones posted:

Somebody dropped an absolutely massive album about Ulithi Island in particular and the Pacific War in general on imgur:
http://imgur.com/a/mOvzk

Of particular note; here's how good the damage repair crews were during WWII; the Houston was later repaired from this:


:stare:

quote:

With that said on 15 September 1945 the now gargantuan Third Fleet consisted of - 20 Fleet Carriers (CV), 8 Light Carriers (CVL), 64 Escort Carriers (CVE), 23 Battleships (BB), 52 Light & Heavy Cruisers (CA - CL), 323 Destroyers (DD), 298 Destroyer Escorts (DE), 181 Submarines, 160 Mine Craft, 1060 Support & Auxiliary Vessels, 2783 Landing Craft, 14,847 Combat Aircraft, along with 1286 Transport & Utility Aircraft

Neat, I think that's a captured Emily:

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Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

I love that flame illustration.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.

Cyrano4747 posted:

I love that flame illustration.

That's basically how child-me drew fire. Hell, probably every child.

That waterline after the 2nd torpedo is loving crazy. Are there any pictures of it sitting that low in the water?

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

DeesGrandpa posted:

Yeah that too. I wouldn't have had a real problem is it was just a nuke plant issue but to have it have magically been one that the republican candidate fought to have built is pretty out there.

That was entirely an on the fly rewrite of the season because John Spencer died, so it makes sense it felt abrupt.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Doctor Grape Ape posted:

That's basically how child-me drew fire. Hell, probably every child.

That waterline after the 2nd torpedo is loving crazy. Are there any pictures of it sitting that low in the water?



Damage diagram seems accurate.

Here it is under tow which shows how low she's riding compared to how she normally is:


Alaan
May 24, 2005

Yowzers. Also digging that dazzle camo.

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.

Party Plane Jones posted:



Damage diagram seems accurate.

Here it is under tow which shows how low she's riding compared to how she normally is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro4yhp9L6Ok

I wasn't expecting the dazzle camo, that's awesome.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Party Plane Jones posted:



Damage diagram seems accurate.

Here it is under tow which shows how low she's riding compared to how she normally is:



Look how she's *sagging*. That's amazing that she stayed in one piece.

Somebody Awful
Nov 27, 2011

BORN TO DIE
HAIG IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1917
I am trench man
410,757,864,530 SHELLS FIRED


Russia now insinuating that a US drone carried out the strike on that Aleppo aid convoy.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

I’ll bet that drone was on PCP, too. :rolleyes:

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.
What would happen to the Middle East if the USA just decided to wash their hands of it tomorrow?

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Doctor Grape Ape posted:

What would happen to the Middle East if the USA just decided to wash their hands of it tomorrow?

Megadeaths.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



If we're posting damage photos, I can always go dig up my photos from when my grandfather helped repair the USS Lindsey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Lindsey

He was the XO on a floating drydock in the Pacific...I posted the photos a couple years ago, but still have them somewhere.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Crossposting this video from GiP. The Navy is the second-most consumer of electronic music behind Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55KMPVr20c0

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete
ISIS artillery launched mustard gas at US and Iraqi forces..

quote:

ISIS is suspected of firing a shell with mustard agent that landed at the Qayyara air base in Iraq Tuesday where US and Iraqi troops are operating, according to several US officials. The shell was categorized by officials as either a rocket or artillery shell. After it landed on the base, just south of Mosul, US troops tested it and received an initial reading for a chemical agent they believe is mustard.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Doctor Grape Ape posted:

What would happen to the Middle East if the USA just decided to wash their hands of it tomorrow?

Gas prices would double overnight.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
http://i.imgur.com/glbxHdk.gifv

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
There's a reason Navy pilots call the drogue add-on for the KC-135 the 'Iron Maiden.'

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
Did it smack into the side of the canopy by the copilot, or am I interpreting it wrong?

Doctor Grape Ape
Aug 26, 2005

Dammit Doc, I just bought this for you 3 months ago. Try and keep it around for a bit longer this time.

Godholio posted:

Gas prices would double overnight.

...is that the worst? Because that's no that bad.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Well, at least a dozen cultures would be wiped from the face of the earth (mostly the non-troublesome ones), any historical artifacts in the region would be destroyed, ISIL and such would actually be able to organize into a coherent organization capable of planning and executing complex plans, and building a real economy because we're still desperately hooked on oil. Then things get interesting.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Godholio posted:

Well, at least a dozen cultures would be wiped from the face of the earth (mostly the non-troublesome ones), any historical artifacts in the region would be destroyed, ISIL and such would actually be able to organize into a coherent organization capable of planning and executing complex plans, and building a real economy because we're still desperately hooked on oil. Then things get interesting.

Plus there's the whole almost-definitely-not-an-idle-threat by the Saudi Royal Family that if the House of Saud is ever deposed, that they'll take their oil with them on their way to Paradise. So yeah, oil would far more than double if they made good on their threats and destroyed their refineries and sabotaged their own fields so ISIL/Daesh couldn't just waltz in and have turn-key control to the bulk of the world's remaining light sweet crude reserves.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Party Plane Jones posted:



Damage diagram seems accurate.

Here it is under tow which shows how low she's riding compared to how she normally is:




This is even more impressive because the Cleveland class had chronic weight issues stemming from a too-narrow design displacement that left little room for additional equipment to be added later.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Coming soon to a battleship group near you; a wall of smoke* for cover and concealment:

http://i.imgur.com/e0EaUTh.gifv


*Actually a mix of ammonium sulfide and potassium persulfate

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde
http://popularmilitary.com/u-s-troops-attacked-chemical-weapons-iraq-possible-mustard-gas/

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Alaan posted:

Yowzers. Also digging that dazzle camo.

Good looking ship. Nice classic lines.


BIG HEADLINE posted:

Plus there's the whole almost-definitely-not-an-idle-threat by the Saudi Royal Family that if the House of Saud is ever deposed, that they'll take their oil with them on their way to Paradise. So yeah, oil would far more than double if they made good on their threats and destroyed their refineries and sabotaged their own fields so ISIL/Daesh couldn't just waltz in and have turn-key control to the bulk of the world's remaining light sweet crude reserves.

Interestingly, as the (very close) #2 and #3 producers of oil in the world Russia and the US would benefit heavily.

People over state US reliance on off-shore oil. We aren't really. We import a lot of oil, but we make vast amounts of money off of petroleum products and the things produced with those products that we export. It's a net profit.

The, 'Oh god, we have to get out from under the Middle Easts hold on us' is just so simplistic a view as to be almost worthless. As far as just gas consumption, domestic and Canadian product could covers our needs pretty handily but that would be expensive and dumb and throwing away huge sources of income.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye


So, let me get this straight:

1. The US and Russia, who both hate ISIS, try to put stuff aside so they can work together on it.

2. America by accident bombs a group of Assad soldiers.

3. Russia, its honor slighted, responds by deliberately blowing up an aid convoy, an actual goddamn war crime.

4. ??????

Like I'm watching the second season of Narcos on netflix and Pablo Escobar calling up the German embassy and Lufthansa and threatening to blow up poo poo in Germany for loving with him seems a paragon of rationality, comparatively.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

The ??? can now be replaced with "Russia and Assad fire bomb random poo poo in Aleppo even harder".

Also, Assad kinda sorta blocked all the aid shipments into contested areas and Russia continued bombing the non-ISIS rebels throughout while not stepping up efforts against ISIS during the ceasefire so I doubt the ceasefire motivation on that side had anything to do with ISIS.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Sep 22, 2016

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Plucky. Little. Russia.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Warbadger posted:

The ??? can now be replaced with "Russia and Assad fire bomb random poo poo in Aleppo even harder".

Also, Assad kinda sorta blocked all the aid shipments into contested areas and Russia continued bombing the non-ISIS rebels throughout while not stepping up efforts against ISIS during the ceasefire so I doubt the ceasefire motivation on that side had anything to do with ISIS.

So what was the motivation? Here's a good opportunity to emphasize you don't gently caress wit' th' A?

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
10 years ago today, the F-14 was retired. :(

RIP you sexy beast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmEFrWDAUY

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Godholio posted:

10 years ago today, the F-14 was retired. :(

RIP you sexy beast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmEFrWDAUY

That bit at the beginning where they're just flying over that beach is so cool.


Now look at dis

COIN Challenger by Lockheed Martin, on Flickr

quote:

The 1964 US tri-service (Navy-Air Force-Army) Light Armed Reconnaissance Aircraft, or LARA, competition came about as a response to a Marine Corps requirement for an aircraft specifically designed for counterinsurgency, or COIN, operations. Nine competitors responded to the request for proposal. The Lockheed CL-760 design, shown here as a full-scale mockup, featured a crew of two in tandem and could carry eight fully-armed infantry soldiers in the fuselage. The main landing gear would have retracted into fuselage blisters, which also held four 7.62 mm guns. A variety of weapons and pods could have been carried on underwing weapons racks. The Navy, as lead procurement agency, chose the North American Rockwell design, which entered production as the OV-10 Bronco.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
I think we can all agree that the Bronco is cooler

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Nebakenezzer posted:

So what was the motivation? Here's a good opportunity to emphasize you don't gently caress wit' th' A?

Probably just to help the SAA consolidate recent gains to re-encircle Aleppo.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

A Handed Missus posted:

That bit at the beginning where they're just flying over that beach is so cool.


Now look at dis

COIN Challenger by Lockheed Martin, on Flickr

This made me look it up and I had no idea the bronco could carry passengers or be easily broken down to transport in a 6x6. So cool.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Murgos posted:

Interestingly, as the (very close) #2 and #3 producers of oil in the world Russia and the US would benefit heavily.

The U.S. and Russia wouldn’t be hurt as severely as most other countries, but it would still be a disaster.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Where and for what markets is Saudi oil refined? My limited understanding is that refineries have to be set up for the specific chemistry of oil from a certain area and that refineries also supply certain markets. Would the Sauds going nuts gently caress one part of the world more than anotherA?

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Godholio posted:

10 years ago today, the F-14 was retired. :(

RIP you sexy beast.

Still alive in the IRIAF. ;)

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cyrano4747 posted:

Where and for what markets is Saudi oil refined? My limited understanding is that refineries have to be set up for the specific chemistry of oil from a certain area and that refineries also supply certain markets. Would the Sauds going nuts gently caress one part of the world more than anotherA?

Sweet light crude is the type O of oil. I think almost anyone can refine it.

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MeatloafCat
Apr 10, 2007
I can't think of anything to put here.

Shooting Blanks posted:

If we're posting damage photos, I can always go dig up my photos from when my grandfather helped repair the USS Lindsey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Lindsey

He was the XO on a floating drydock in the Pacific...I posted the photos a couple years ago, but still have them somewhere.

I wonder if the people who run this site http://www.navsource.org/archives/11/0832.htm would like copies of those? The Allen M. Sumner class seems to have been very well built https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Laffey_(DD-724)

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