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Malachite_Dragon posted:So long as we're getting rid of subforums can we get started on that plan to shoot TCC into the sun?  ?
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SinineSiil posted:Could someone also explain why does something like FYAD exist? Maybe by PM if it's too off-topic. Every large enough place needs a place to safely keep those who are too dangerous for society. All the better if they stay there voluntarily.
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Sep 22, 2016 16:15
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SinineSiil posted:Could someone also explain why does something like FYAD exist? Maybe by PM if it's too off-topic. its a place where people tell jokes, thats literally all there is to it.
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Sep 22, 2016 16:41
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Two Feet From Bread posted:What quazi land do you Europeans live in where you can arrest someone for murder when no one is even known to be dead and no victim has been identified? I mean, I know you all convict people without having them at the trial, but no one can even say someone died. He published the book a year ago and has only just been arrested so going to suggest the police may have done a little light digging since then. Probably won't come to much anyway, they're a bit tired of investigating TV personalities for historical crimes right now. 
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Sep 22, 2016 17:03
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WoodrowSkillson posted:its a place where people tell jokes, thats literally all there is to it. even that is overstating it
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Sep 22, 2016 17:25
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china bot posted:even that is overstating it nah its pretty funny
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Sep 22, 2016 17:37
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WoodrowSkillson posted:nah its pretty funny for me to poop on
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Sep 22, 2016 17:43
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Pretty much the only worthwhile thing FYAD has ever created was "My nigga have you tried LSD?!"
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Sep 22, 2016 17:43
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Regalingualius posted:Pretty much the only worthwhile thing FYAD has ever created was "My nigga have you tried LSD?!" Look at this clown who doesn't respect the Ultimate Hustler. quote:I sat at my desk, thumbing through a copy of Ovid’s Metamorphoses while awaiting the arrival of our new mythology professor. The whole of the classroom shook as the door slammed open and a strange man clad head to toe in purple velvet swaggered in. He moved to the front of the room and grabbed a dry erase marker, scrawling “The Ultimate Hustler, PhD.” across the whiteboard. Assuming a proper lean at the podium, he turned directly towards me, a long finger emerging from the folds of his billowing velvet coat. “Ya’ll see dis busta here? He such a bitch, his girl left him for Hermaphroditus, sayin’ she wanna be with more of a man.” Unprompted, my jaw leapt into motion, my teeth audibly chattering. This couldn’t be happening. I opened my mouth to respond, only to find him continue, “Psh, homey got such big, broke rear end teeth, it be lookin like the Parthenon when he smile. Cept even the Parthenon ain’t lookin THAT yellow. poo poo, his mouth so jacked, even dat ho Philomela glad she ain’t dis fool.” http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2473759
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FYAD is the cool place to hang out. You can find most of the cool people there. In FYAD you can just chill and do whatever and totally relax. "Take it easy" is the FYAD motto, for example, that's how laid back it is there. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another good reason to show up is if you want to hang out with friends.
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While making fun of goon written novel Mr Shivers A Gentle Breeze posted: Mr. Shivers unbuckled his pants. "It's time to gently caress a woman," he said, to the woman, who was listening and waiting for a gently caress. Outside, the melodious cacophony of dust striking and dancing and shimmering in the hot desert California wind played its mellifluous symphony. "I'm the gently caress Man," Mr. Shivers explained, while the woman, naked, nodded.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:54
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Two Feet From Bread posted:What quazi land do you Europeans live in where you can arrest someone for murder when no one is even known to be dead and no victim has been identified? I mean, I know you all convict people without having them at the trial, but no one can even say someone died I dont know man, if a guy walks up to the police and says 'I just killed a guy', they should probably take an interest, even if they don't have the corpse right there
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Sep 22, 2016 18:18
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^^^^ That would be a confession. The person confessed to murder in your story. Yes, police would probably do something. My question is, what does that have to do with what we are talking about? Because only a daft person can't see that your story and the subject are nothing alike. darkwasthenight posted:He published the book a year ago and has only just been arrested so going to suggest the police may have done a little light digging since then. Probably won't come to much anyway, they're a bit tired of investigating TV personalities for historical crimes right now. So what you are saying is that the only reason he isn't in jail right now is because he paid the extortion money. And not because the police don't have enough evidence to charge him with anything. Yea, Europe can't bitch about the US judicial system any more. Two Feet From Bread has a new favorite as of 18:29 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 18:21
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I kinda wished they woulda moved all the threads from GBS to other places when they shut it down, a couple of threads I have bookmarked just return "you don't have permission to access this page"
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Two Feet From Bread posted:So what you are saying is that the only reason he isn't in jail right now is because he paid the extortion money. And not because the police don't have enough evidence to charge him with anything. Nobody said this.
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Sep 22, 2016 18:52
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Sep 22, 2016 18:53
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ranbo das posted:I kinda wished they woulda moved all the threads from GBS to other places when they shut it down, a couple of threads I have bookmarked just return "you don't have permission to access this page" https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3791205
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WoodrowSkillson posted:While making fun of goon written novel Mr Shivers Is this the new John Ringo novel?
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Sep 22, 2016 18:59
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Two Feet From Bread posted:^^^^ I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but apparently neither do you so I guess that's OK. Here's a link to the story with more details anyway. quote:CJ de Mooi, a former panellist on BBC quiz show Eggheads, has appeared in court after his arrest on a European arrest warrant for an alleged killing. darkwasthenight has a new favorite as of 19:17 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 19:14
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Jamfrost posted:Wow. He broke her ankles, her wrists, and her hips. loving A
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Sep 22, 2016 19:26
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Punched a guy in Amsterdam just to watch him fly.
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Two Feet From Bread posted:Yea, Europe can't bitch about the US judicial system any more. Just so we are clear, you are comparing a European "Investigating someone who literally published a murder confession"unfavourably to the US "Basically legalising police hunting black people for sport"?
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Two Feet From Bread posted:^^^^ Didn't know SA had sovereign citizens.
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Sep 22, 2016 20:46
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Two Feet From Bread posted:Yea, Europe can't bitch about the US judicial system any more. You know Europe isn't one big country where the judicial system is all the same, right?
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Jonathan Yeah! posted:You know Europe isn't one big country where the judicial system is all the same, right? They're mostly poor where the rights of the accused are concerned. In England they can arrest you and hold you up to two weeks without charging you. In France they can hold you without charges for up to 96 hours. That bit about "you have the right to remain silent" doesn't generally apply, if you refuse to answer questions then your silence can be used against you in court. Likewise there's no exclusionary rule; if evidence is obtained illegally a court might have the option to throw it out, but frequently isn't required to, and the ECHR has flat-out decided that evidence being obtained illegally doesn't necessarily result in an unfair trial. Austria, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Sweden and the United Kingdom all can admit illegally-obtained evidence. And in France they don't really need any kind of warrant to search in the first place; I mean, search warrants exist and police serve them but they frequently aren't required to obtain them. Hell, France can keep you under house arrest as long as the cops have "serious reason to think that the person’s conduct threatens security or the public order." Don't need to, you know, charge you with anything or find you guilty before a court, they just have to have serious reason to think that. Phanatic has a new favorite as of 21:26 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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That....that can't be correct. Like if the police just break into your house with no warrant or break the evidence chain they can still present what ever they got? What's to stop false evidence being used to convict anyone they want?
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Solice Kirsk posted:That....that can't be correct. Like if the police just break into your house with no warrant or break the evidence chain they can still present what ever they got? What's to stop false evidence being used to convict anyone they want? Those are really two different issues, a warrant requirement doesn't stop the cops from planting drugs in your place and saying they found drugs there and using that fake evidence to convict you, it just requires them to get a warrant before they do it. The exclusionary rule is uniquely American. In much of Europe if the evidence was obtained illegally it's up to the judge to decide whether or not it can be used at trial. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/us/19exclude.html
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Solice Kirsk posted:That....that can't be correct. Like if the police just break into your house with no warrant or break the evidence chain they can still present what ever they got? What's to stop false evidence being used to convict anyone they want? I assume the jury is instructed by the judge to evaluate whether or not the illegally obtained evidence is still legitimate, as in, is there a high likelihood that the cops planted it? If there's no real reason to believe any evidence tampering occurred, the jury is allowed to consider that evidence even if the cops hosed up when they obtained it. Its not right, but I can see the logic in it. Tampering aside, physical evidence is what it is regardless of how it came to light. ^^^ Or yea, maybe the judge just has the ability to make that decision him/herself.
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The exclusionary rule owns. It keeps cops from martyring themselves by “doing what is necessary” to catch the bad guys, even if it means punishment for themselves.
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Platystemon posted:The exclusionary rule owns. More importantly, it deters collusion between prosecutors and cops. Otherwise, prosecutors can tell cops "Go ahead and break the door down without a warrant, we'll get to use the evidence against the suspect but we won't prosecute you for any rights violations." Forthcoming schadenfreude: Northern Michigan University apparently has a campus speech code (One of those things that goons earlier in the thread were okay with and said were perfectly legal) that prohibits students who are feeling depressed and suicidal from discussing those feelings of suicide and depression with other students, and apparently has been sending out a few dozen warning letters a semester. "Feeling isolated and suicidal? Well, shut up and keep that to yourself!" http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/09/a-school-is-threatening-to-punish-its-suicidal-students.html They are going to get *hammered* over this. I can't wait.
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Phanatic posted:That bit about "you have the right to remain silent" doesn't generally apply, if you refuse to answer questions then your silence can be used against you in court. If you remain silent and stay silent, then the court can't infer anything. If you say nothing to the police and then show up in court saying "I have x alibi", then the court's allowed to make a negative inference form the fact that you basically gave the police no opportunity to test your claims.
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Platystemon posted:The exclusionary rule owns. There are some interesting cases where cops could just bust in without a warrant. It's theoretically ok if, for example, you killed a man and then hid the murder weapon in a friends house. The police could theoretically bust into that house sans warrant and seize that evidence and use it. The idea being that they're not violating your rights, they're violating your friends rights, so they wouldn't be able to use it against your friend for colluding with you (or if they end up finding out he was the murderer all along) because then it would be excluded for violating his rights, but they didn't violate your rights since it wasn't your house/property. Your rights don't extend to your friend and his stuff. Of course, this is all academic as far as I know and I wouldn't be at all surprised if a judge ended up excluding that evidence anyway, it's just an interesting scenario. This is also stuff I learned 5-6 years ago so it may have already been addressed by a ruling that clarifies it.
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Scruff McGruff posted:There are some interesting cases where cops could just bust in without a warrant. It's theoretically ok if, for example, you killed a man and then hid the murder weapon in a friends house. The police could theoretically bust into that house sans warrant and seize that evidence and use it. The idea being that they're not violating your rights, they're violating your friends rights, so they wouldn't be able to use it against your friend for colluding with you (or if they end up finding out he was the murderer all along) because then it would be excluded for violating his rights, but they didn't violate your rights since it wasn't your house/property. Your rights don't extend to your friend and his stuff. I don't believe that's correct; they can't just bust into your friend's house and search it, that's an illegal search because it's not reasonable. If you left the murder weapon at a friend's house and the cops said "Hey, can we search your place?" and your friend *consents* to the search, then that's a legal search and they can use the evidence they find against you. There are exceptions to the exclusionary rule (Most recently, a case where the officer had what he thought was a valid warrant but it was filled out in error ), but I don't think that's one of them.
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I like how the guy has to hold back his anger at the kid for moving while trying to play it off so they don't figure out what he was trying to do.
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chitoryu12 posted:Is this the new John Ringo novel? Not enough BDSM enthusiasts who love the protagonist for getting them out of sex slavery.
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Platystemon posted:The exclusionary rule owns. I mean yea, instead they just shoot people and then claim "he had a gun" based on no evidence and get off Scott free. Dead people can't appeal their sentances after all, like you can if the police frame you.
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That's amazing. If it were as small a ball as he thought it was, it'd have been closer and he'd have caught it perfectly 
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Drone_Fragger posted:I mean yea, instead they just shoot people and then claim "he had a gun" based on no evidence and get off Scott free. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/terence-crutcher-shooting-tulsa-county-district-attorney-charges-officer-shelby-n652856 quote:An Oklahoma police officer has been charged with manslaughter for the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man after the Tulsa County District Attorney's Office found she "reacted unreasonably" and became "emotionally involved to the point that she overreacted."
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