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Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Dmitri Russkie posted:

Not sure who I should recommend a movie for. Is it Sandwich Bender?

I'd echo the Big Trouble in Little China recommendation for Sandwich Bender and then pick one for Ramagamma so there's no confusion.

Sandwich Bender posted:

Even though I'm a Star Wars nut, I sometimes question whether or not Harrison Ford is really that good of an actor, but he was fantastic here.

Witness is one of his that doesn't get mentioned a lot.

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Dmitri Russkie
Feb 13, 2008

Sandwich Bender, Big Trouble in Little China. Ramagamma, go for Kick rear end.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Dmitri Russkie posted:

Wall Street - Greed is good, I hear.

Try this one next.



Red Desert - The film follows Giuliana (Monica Vitti) as she struggles through some kind of nervous breakdown. She becomes increasingly erratic and ill as the film goes on. Many scenes show factories, power plants, oil platforms and other industrial technologies encroaching upon Italy. It's similar to Tati's Playtime in this regard.

Maybe something was lost in translation but nearly all the dialogue just came across as idle chitchat and small talk. Perhaps I was in the mood for some profundity.

Most of the characters are dissatisfied and dejected. Kind of a downer seeing these aimless, stuck in a rut people walking around desolate landscapes.

I was also reminded of Through a Glass Darkly which is my least favorite of Bergman's trilogy of faith.


Also watched:

Under the Cherry Moon - A daring but ultimately unappealing and uninspiring revision of Roman Holiday with the aesthetic of Wings of Desire. For brief moments it looks like a Fellini film set in Nice, France.

Prince Nelson and Jerome Benton play gigolos going after the all-time big heist of getting fifty million dollars from a girl about to receive a large trust fund. Long date scenes and angry dad vs. girl cliches commence.

Prince prances and teleports around the film like an imp you wish would go away. When he's not accosting the aloof rich people in the film he's acting like he's the Giacomo Casanova or Rudolph Valentino of the 1980s.

Jerome Benton also displays one of the most dire supporting performances I've ever witnessed. In short it's unbridled, insane, scream acting. Definitely more fit for the stage or something on a soap opera. Some scenes are comparable to audition tapes I've seen. Not to mention other scenes where Prince's score drowns out the dialogue.

What a strange confluence. Full Golden Raspberry honors!



Procrastination (230 completed):

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#229 Greed - I was futilely waiting for some hero to find the full original version somewhere but I'll throw in the towel at this juncture. 7/12/16

#232 The Beach - Been meaning to watch this. 8/17/16

#233 Medicine Man - John McTiernan directed Predator, Die Hard and The Hunt for Red October in succession! That's a memorable triumvirate and this was his next film after those three. 8/23/16

#235 Communion - Continuing research for the upcoming alien invasion. 8/27/16

#236 Demolition Man - Make me watch it. 9/2/16

new #237 Children of Heaven - Not to be confused with Children of Men. I'm very close to reconquering the IMDb top 250. This usually means a bunch of new films will enter the list shortly. 9/15/16

James Bond versus Godzilla (21/58 completed):

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (33/39 completed):

1984 Bolero - Bo Derek is back. 8/9/16

1983 The Lonely Lady - Not to be confused with The Lonely Guy (1984). 8/9/16

new 1982 Inchon - I haven't seen too many films based on the Korean War. 9/15/16

Zogo fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Sep 16, 2016

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
There's a reason they say one sits through an Antonioni movie.

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Zogo posted:


#233 Medicine Man - John McTiernan directed Predator, Die Hard and The Hunt for Red October in succession! That's a memorable triumvirate and this was his next film after those three. 8/23/16


This is a film I recently blind-bought in a bargain bin and hope to watch soon myself! Enjoy.


Mister Roberts
This is a film somewhat dated, and also uses many WWII Navy references and slang where the English subtitles were necessary. It tells the story of Navy men, bored onboard the Reluctant (aka the 'bucket') with officer chief Mister Douglas Roberts (Henry Fonda) writing letter after letter to get transferred off into some more excitement - only for the Captain Morton (James Cagney) to disapprove every one of them. The crew sit and wait for something to do, slowly becoming stir crazy due to heat and lack of freedom. Jack Lemmon is the standout here as the energetic but lazy Ensign Pulver - all those later performances of Lemmon singing and humming to himself, stems from this which was a fun little realization. I say it was dated due to it's machismo and treatment of women, but such is the times. All in all, a fun film to have all that starpower at once, and particularly noteworthy for fans of Lemmon.





LIST
Charley Varrick [1973] - (2016.06.28) - decided to have a Walter Matthau selection, and this is one I've been meaning to see.

Dark Victory [1939] - (2016.05.29) - one of those films you don't hear discussed much, but a revisit of All About Eve makes me want more Bette Davis!

Drugstore Cowboy [1989] - (2016.06.23) - I'll replace one addiction movie with another, though I wonder if Matt Dillon can compare to Nic Cage.

Farewell My Concubine [1993] - (2016.04.13) - replacing with another long, foreign film that I won't watch unless told to here.

Gilda [1946] - **OLDEST** (2015.11.27) - I'll replace an early Rita Hayworth film with her most iconic.

It Should Happen To You [1954] - **NEW** (2016.09.15) - replacing my previous Jack Lemmon selection with Lemmon's debut film

Love and Death [1975] - (2016.09.01) - adding a Woody Allen film to continue my completion of his filmography.

Marketa Lazarova [1967] - (2016.05.05) - best place to put a lengthy acclaimed film... I'll keep putting it off otherwise! I sound like a broken record.

Nobody Knows [2004] - (2016.04.23) - a 2+hr Kore-eda film that would be my 3rd film of his. Long overdue.

Slacker [1991] - (2016.07.17) - want to keep Linklater films a presence here until I'm fully caught up. This is a gorgeous Criterion blind-buy sitting unwatched.


De-shamed Pt2: True Romance (4/5), The Right Stuff (3/5), Syndromes And A Century (4/5), Still Life (3/5), My Cousin Vinny (2.5/5), Doctor Zhivago (3.5/5), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (4.5/5), Peeping Tom (4/5), Shadow of a Doubt (4.5/5), The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (4.5/5), Only Angels Have Wings (4/5), Umberto D (4/5), Anatomy of a Murder (4.5/5), Only God Forgives (1.5/5), Missing (3.5/5), Howl's Moving Castle (4.5/5), Rio Bravo (4/5), Cloud Atlas (3.5/5), Children of Paradise (4/5), That Obscure Object of Desire (5/5), The Fountain (3/5), Malcolm X (4/5), Warrior (4/5), American Movie (4/5), Being There (4/5), Leaving Las Vegas (4.5/5), Rope (4/5), Ed Wood (4.5/5), American Hustle (2.5/5), The Man Who Knew Too Much (3.5/5), Mister Roberts (4/5), [Total:131]

friendo55 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 16, 2016

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I've been completely neglecting this thread, I need to watch Cobra Verde already. Maybe this weekend.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Magic Hate Ball posted:

There's a reason they say one sits through an Antonioni movie.

When I watched The Adventure a couple years back the mystery surrounding Anna's disappearance (even thought it's never resolved) definitely kept me engaged more than I would've been without that aspect.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut
Friendo, random.org says Charley Varrick.

Scenes from a Marriage
This isn’t exactly a “movie,” per se. It’s a TV mini-series. That’s how it was originally presented, so that’s how I’m going to review it. I broke the six episode five hour production up over about a week and I reviewed each episode immediately after watching it. So I’m posting all my thoughts now without going back and editing. Yeah, it’s going to get wordy, but given this series I think wordiness is appropriate.

Scene 1: Innocence and Panic
The first episode introduces us to Johan and Marianne. They are being interviewed by a women’s magazine about their successful relationship. They are a deeply loving couple, but in a mature way; Marianne talks about love in a practical fashion, but it’s believable and deep. Marianne is well-played by Liv Ullman- I like the way she makes little sideways glances whenever Johan says something embarrassing. They have dinner with two terrible people who hate each other but are married. Their relationship is awful but they stay together mostly for monetary reasons. It’s a sharp contrast with our main couple, but also heavy foreshadowing- the set-up practically screams “this is too good to last.” Then Marianne gets pregnant and has an abortion. As an American, it’s rather jarring how frank and straightforward the discussion of abortion is. It’s not clear why she did it, as she seems to want to have the baby and regrets the abortion almost immediately. But it may have something to do with not wanting to disrupt their ordered life. If that’s the case, then it’s a clear parallel to the other couple who value practicality over happiness.
This is a dialogue-heavy show so far. I can’t see anything really filmic; so far, it could have worked just as well as a stage play or a radio drama. The acting is good, but the story is kind of slow, and I found my mind wandering and having to rewind a few times. But the characters are in place for the drama, and it’s hinted that the abortion will haunt them going forward. You’ve gotten me to like these people, Ingmar, and I look forward to seeing you destroy them.

Scene 2: The Art of Sweeping Things Under the Rug
This mini-series could be called “First World Problems the Movie.” Marianne is restless and wants a change. I’m not sure it even matters what, she’s just tired of doing the same things over and over. In her job as a divorce lawyer (or something similar), she hears from an old woman who wants a divorce because her marriage is content but there’s no passion in it. Obviously, Marianne is seeing herself reflected. Meanwhile, Johan is in close proximity to a female coworker and old friend. Will they end up having an affair? Possibly, but he mostly seems content with his life. There’s a bit about Ibsen’s play A Doll’s House, which is also a about an unsatisfied woman wanting her marriage to end, but Marianne has far more respect and independence than Nora ever did. Out of nowhere, Johan delivers a five minute MRA style rant about how feminism is ridiculous and women aren’t nearly as capable as men. He says he was joking, but I doubt it. This mini-series is dreary and kind of slow, although the conversations are well-written. Also, there was some nice film techniques this time with Johan and his coworker appearing to float in a black void. A lot of the dialogue is filmed in simple shot/reverse-shot, though.

Scene 3: Paula
Each episode starts with a recap of the previous ones. While it’s helpful to remind us what had happened, it’s also a bit of a cheat to bluntly tell us what the characters felt during the previous scenes rather than let their actions speak for themselves. This is the episode where the marriage falls apart- all of a sudden, Johan admits he’s been having an affair and is leaving Marianne. Johan comes off as nearly sociopathic in how calmly he tells Marianne all of this, but then he occasionally breaks down and says he's ashamed or something like that. I understand his complaints about feeling constricted by societal expectations, but I don’t have much sympathy for him. The “Doll’s House” comparison continues, though in this story it’s the man who wants to break free of the artificial life and start anew. Marianne carries the weight of the story here, in that Johan is doing most of the talking but she shows her reactions constantly. Aside from My Dinner with Andre I can’t think of any other movie so heavily reliant on two people talking in a small space. Question: Don’t these two have children? We never see them. But now Marianne knows her marriage is done, and she also knows that lots of other people knew about Johan’s affair, so she’s totally isolated. I thought she’d be the one who got sick of their life and tried to break away, but looking back it’s easy to read Johan’s contentment as a pssive way of getting through things without causing trouble.

Scene 4: The Vale of Tears
Johan screws up everything. Only half a year after he left with Paula, and he already wants to dump her, too. Johan has no real sense of self and jumps between people and places because he can’t stand to be still. Marianne feels sorry for him more than anything. He wants to have sex but doesn’t want any commitment, while Marianne wants the opposite. It’s hard to say what’s going on with these two; they hurt each other and love each other at the same time.

Scene Five: The Illiterates
There’s not a lot of analysis I can put into this episode, it was just drat satisfying. I love that Johan is now desperate to be rid of Paula and get back with Marianne, and it was beautiful watching her tell him off. He’s pathetic, but he deserves everything he’s gotten. It was scary when he started attacking her, and I briefly thought she might have died, but no. The roles have completely reverse, where she is tough and in charge and he is pleading for a reunion, and I get a sick thrill watching him squirm.

Scene Six: In the Middle of the Night in a Dark House Somewhere in the World
Suddenly, new characters and settings. The last three episodes were just Marianne and Johan in a room talking, but now we see their friends and family and several outdoor settings. We see that Marianne’s mother had almost the exact same relationship with her husband as Marianne and Johan. We also see that Johan did have an affair with his coworker from scene two. But we end up with Marianne and Johan shacking up in a cabin out in the wilderness. Amazingly, I find myself liking them. They’ve been terrible to each other, and yet in the end they’re happy together. She’s forgiven his violence in the past and they’ve locked into a “friends with benefits” scenario. They’re good for each other in moderation, but when subjected to the glare of the rest of the world they fall apart.

Final Thoughts:
This was an interesting experiment, and it ultimately worked. Bergman wanted to look in-depth at the relationship between two people and see how they play off each other. The story isn’t especially deep thematically. The main theme is that people should live their lives how they please, and worrying about what others will think is harmful to a relationship. Other people would probably pay more attention to their sex life, but to me the sex was just a symptom of their other problems. When they were doing what they wanted, they were happy; it was only when they were attempting to please others that they felt miserable. On the other hand, they had children, and I would have liked to have seen how their reckless love lives affected them. It seemed a bit overly convenient that the children were always shunted off during the scenes, and given the story is about obligations, you’d think that biggest obligation would be relevant. There’s nothing really groundbreaking about the story that I can see, and I stand by my categorization of “first-world problems the movie.” Also, the movie is dialogue heavy and not particularly visual, although a few of the environments were memorable, especially the smiling mask hanging over them in the last scene. I feel like it could have worked as a radio drama, but Bergman was a film-maker. In the end, this is a character study, and the characters are people I can believe exists. After getting to know them this week, I am amazed that I wish I could see more of them. That feeling has to outweigh any negatives.

Rating: 4/4

101. Spartacus- In the end, aren't we all Spartacus? Yeah, I know how this one ends, but that's basically it. Also, I think it's popular among labor organizers.

112. The Bourne Ultimatum- I like this series- ready to finish it off (I doubt "Legacy" is worth my time).

116. Boogie Nights- Uh, porn is bad. You shouldn't watch porn, m'kay?

120. The Straight Story- Doug Walker described this as "a movie that seems really slow and tedious until you get to the end, and then you realize everything that happened was for a reason." So that interested me. Also, it's by David Lynch, who ranges from excellent (Mulholland Drive, Twin Peaks Season One) to pretty good (Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks Season Two). No, I've never seen Dune, why do you ask?

122. I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang- Somewhere, someone made a list of best pre-Hays Code movies, and this was at the top. That's all I know about it. Oh, and I think there's a twist ending of some sort, but I've deliberately avoided reading anything about it.

124. The Rules of the Game- I opened the They Shoot Pictures list, and this is number five. I've never even heard of it.

127. Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer- One of Shakespeare's lesser known history plays.

129. Scenes from a Marriage- Continuing with Ebert's annual bests, this was the best of 1974. I've never heard of it, but- wait... (scrolls through previous comments in this thread). Oh, this is Ingmar Bergman's even more depressing and much longer follow-up to Cries and Whispers? Oh, dear, better prepare myself...

130. Invasion of the Body Snatchers- The original? Which one is the best version?

131. F is for Fake- I think this is an odd experimental film from Orson Welles. I heard I should watch it without knowing too much about it.

132. Five Easy Pieces- Continuing the Ebert list, I somehow skipped over this one.

Okay, tell me what I'm watching!

Shame relieved: The Godfather: 3.5/4, The Godfather Part II: 4/4, Taxi Driver: 4/4, Casablanca: 4/4, Duck Soup: 2/4, Pulp Fiction: 4/4, Barton Fink: 3.5/4, Annie Hall:3/4, Rashomon: 4/4, Blade Runner: 3.5/4, Chinatown: 4/4, Nashville: 3.5/4, Goodfellas: 4/4, The Seven Samurai: 4/4, Superman: 2/4, The Exorcist: 3/4, A Face in the Crowd: 3.5/4, The Seventh Seal: 2.5/4, Treasure of the Sierra Madre: 3.5/4, Apocalypse Now: 4/4, 2001: A Space Odyssey: 2.5/4, The Deer Hunter: 3/4, Schindler's List: 4/4, The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari: 3/4, Young Frankenstein: 3.5/4, Yojimbo: 3.5/4, Brazil: 3.5/4, Hamlet: 4/4, The Aviator: 4/4, Rocky: 3.5/4, Gandhi: 3.5/4, City Lights: 4/4, Battleship Potemkin: 3.5/4, Predator: 3/4, Easy Rider: 1.5/4, Platoon: 3.5/4, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: 4/4, Get Carter: 3.5/4, Full Metal Jacket: 4/4, My Dinner with Andre: 4/4, Lethal Weapon: 3/4, 3 Women: 4/4, Ikiru: 4/4, The Maltese Falcon: 2.5/4, Midnight Cowboy: 3/4, Gattaca: 4/4, Gone with the Wind: 3/4, Jaws: 4/4, The Bicycle Thief: 3/4, Sophie's Choice: 2/4, On the Waterfront: 4/4, North by Northwest: 3.5/4, Stagecoach: 3.5/4, E.T.: 2/4, Nosferatu: 4/4, Lawrence of Arabia: 4/4, Dirty Harry: 1/4, Vertigo: 3.5/4, Rebecca: 4/4, The Pink Panther: 3/4, Children of Men: 4/4, Wings of Desire: 3/4, Metropolis: 3.5/4, Born on the Fourth of July: 4/4, The Bridge on the River Kwai: 3.5/4, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: 4/4, Being John Malkovich: 3/4, Adaptation: 4/4, Bonnie and Clyde: 4/4, Goldfinger: 3/4, A Streetcar Named Desire: 4/4, Dog Day Afternoon: 3.5/4, Leon: The Professional: 4/4, 8 1/2: 3/4, Mulholland Drive: 4/4, 12 Angry Men: 4/4, Safety Last: 3.5/4, Dogville: 4/4, The Rapture: 2/4, Blue Velvet: 3/4, Irreversible: 4/4, Airplane!: 3.5/4, Tokyo Story: 2.5/4, Big Trouble in Little China: 3.5/4, American Psycho: 3.5/4, Dr. Zhivago: 3/4, Leaving Las Vegas:4/4, The Bourne Identity: 4/4, Out of Africa: 3/4, The Usual Suspects: 3/4, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang: 4/4, Rain Man: 3.5/4, The Lost Weekend: 3.5/4, Ratatouille: 3/4, City of God: 4/4, Ed Wood: 4/4, Top Gun: 2.5/4, Trois Couleurs: Bleu: 3.5/4, The Hidden Fortess: 3/4, First Blood: 4/4, The Ten Commandments:3.5/4, Patton: 3.5/4, The Bourne Supremacy:3.5/4, King Lear (1983): 2.5/4, Repo Man: 2.5/4, King Kong: 3.5/4, Wall Street: 3/4, The Blues Brothers: 2/4, Trois Couleurs: Blanc: 2.5/4, Trois Couleurs: Rouge: 3.5/4, Animal House: 1.5/4, Ben-Hur: 3.5/4, Gojira: 4/4, Sunset Boulevard: 3.5/4, Falling Down: 4/4, The Night of the Hunter: 3.5/4, Ran: 4/4, The Battle of Algiers: 4/4, Z: 3/4, The Great Escape: 2.5/4, Cries and Whispers: 4/4, Enchanted: 3.5/4, Judgment at Nuremberg: 4/4, Cool Hand Luke:3/4, Scenes from a Marriage: 4/4

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Jurgan posted:

130. Invasion of the Body Snatchers- The original? Which one is the best version?

Personally I'd recommend the 1978 remake. The cast is great(young Jeff Goldblum), and the effects are suitably gross. If anyone has any horror on their list that's what I'm going for this month, we're getting close to Halloween after all! I'm gonna add one to my personal list as well.

I watched Cobra Verde. This is what Herzog is great at, and goddamn I wish he wasn't 80+ years old so he could get out there and make another one of these. Aguire: The Wrath of God and Fitzcarraldo are two of my all-time favorite films, and Cobra Verde fits right in with them as a companion piece. The visuals are astounding, nobody takes me out of my living room and transports me the way Herzog does. The stories he tells are always over the top, and yet he contrasts that with the tangible reality of actually being in these locations, filming with native actors. Places become characters in Herzog's films, and Cobra Verde's fort is one of his greatest characters.

Kinski is, of course, Kinski.

Remaining List with a new entry:

Remaining list with one new entry:

Red Beard: This is the last collaboration of Kurosawa and Mifune. I guess its length is the only reason I haven't seen it before now, but that's a dumb reason when talking Kurosawa.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Jamaica Inn - This is the Hitchcock slot for now, Jamaica Inn was made a year before my last pick, Foreign Correspondent.

The Long Voyage Home: Its John Ford, and its been on my Hulu queue for months. That is shameful.

Red Desert: I've never seen any Antonioni films in color. This seems like a good start, and then I'll eventually need to track down Blow Up.

The Hitcher: I'm a huge horror fan so its pretty shameful that I haven't seen this.

The Pit and the Pendulum: All horror all the time baby. To be up-front, if you pick either this or the Hitcher, I'll watch it within 24 hours because tis the season. Anything else will be a little slower.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Weekend

First pleasurably satirical, then oddly disquieting. It's fun to laugh in the first hour, when the satire is at arms-length, and even feels familiar. People rage at each other in the street, go casually into violent fits, as if this were the norm, caustically jab at each other - in one scene, the main characters, destitute on the side of the road, beg passing cars for lifts, but answer their political question incorrectly ("Drive on, Harold, she's a fascist!"). In fact, it even feels modern. How many of us have casually said something sneering, snideful, mean, or even cruel on the internet, essentially in passing, making a violently grim joke and meandering on, only returning later to see what kind of skid mark it leaves in a thread or on twitter? It's easy to be mean. Nothing matters and everything is bad and nobody quite passes the test.

As soon as the "plot" is resolved (the main characters murder the husband's mother, after poisoning his father and his own wife), they're taken in by nonsensical mod rebels, who live in the forest and wear garish clothes and play drums accompanied by bland political screeds. Earlier, two unfathomably dull monologues are given about the mistreatment of Africans and the general Eastern underclass, and later, a pig is conked on the head with a hammer and its throat slit, right in front of the camera. The death of the pig (also, a chicken) is shocking, and visually cruel, but the monologues, which are about the exact cruelty that keeps the West afloat. Both involve you and I in our day-to-day lives, inescapably. The computer I'm typing this on was presumably constructed by a string of hapless Chinese slaves or whatever, and the bacon in my sandwich this morning was undoubtedly taken from a pig conked and slaughtered, just as in the film. It's morally reprehensible to be disgusted only by one, and to be bored by the other, and yet here I am, and there I was, dazedly disinterested during the monologues.

At the end of the movie, the main character's girlfriend eats one of his ribs. It looked pretty tasty.

8/10

shame dome

1) Garlic Is As Good As Ten Mothers - true!! never too much garlic

2) The River - Inspired Satyajit Ray? Something about India? i have no idea

3) Blind Chance - I need to fill up on my Kieslowski

4) Jubilee - gruel britannia

5) The Freshman - llarold hoyd

6) Valerie and her Week of Wonders - magical realism

7) A Brief History of Time - billions and billions

8) The Marriage of Maria Braun - more fassbinder

9) Frances Ha - recent rave

10) A Day In The Country - ah, this seems short

Jules et Jim 6/10, Saving Private Ryan 9.5/10, Fitzcarraldo 9/10, The 39 Steps 7/10, Notorious 7/10, Run Lola Run 8/10, Downfall 7.5/10, The Searchers 7.5/10, Tokyo Story 7/10, Gone With The Wind 10/10, Touch Of Evil 9.5/10, Ikiru 7.5/10, The Apartment 7/10, Bicycle Thieves 7/10, Moon 7/10, The Color Purple 7.5/10. The French Connection 9.5/10, The Leopard 8/10, Yojimbo 8.5/10, Sanjuro 8/10, Das Boot 8.5/10, The Conformist 8/10, Breathless 9/10, Where The Wild Things Are 7.5/10, Vertigo 9/10, Raging Bull 10/10, Ordet 7/10, City Of God 9/10, The Wages Of Fear 9/10, Aguirre, The Wrath Of God 9/10, The Mirror 9.5/10, Through A Glass Darkly 10/10, On The Waterfront 6/10, The Straight Story 9/10, Lawrence Of Arabia 8.5/10, Dial M For Murder, 8/10 Winter Light 10/10, The Silence 9/10, Badlands 8/10, The Wrong Man 7/10, In The Mood For Love 9.5/10, Secret Honor 10/10, Gosford Park 10/10, Viridiana 7.5/10, The Exterminating Angel 9/10, Seven Samurai 10/10, Rashomon 9/10, The Godfather: Part II 10/10, La Dolce Vita 10/10, The Princess Bride 9/10, Bringing Up Baby 7/10, City Lights 9/10, Baraka 7/10, Au revior les enfants 8/10, Bonnie And Clyde 6.5, Hiroshima mon amour 8/10, Lost In Translation 10/10, The Piano 8/10, La Strada 7/10, Safety Last! 10/10 Vivre sa vie 9/10, Band Of Outsiders 8/10, Diary Of A Country Priest 7/10, Mommie Dearest 8/10, Once Upon A Time In The West 10/10, L'Atalante 7/10, All About My Mother 7/10, Shoot The Piano Player 8/10, Faces 10/10, The Passion Of Joan Of Arc 10/10, The Wild Bunch 6/10, Harold And Maude see my review, Pink Flamingos 8/10, Heat 10/10, Raising Arizona 7/10, L'Avventura 2/10, Atlantic City 9/10, The Magic Flute 9/10, Cleo From 5 To 7 9/10, Down By Law 10/10, Hoop Dreams 10/10, 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her ¿8/10?, La jetée 9/10, Night Of The Living Dead 9/10, Cool Hand Luke 6/10, Pather Panchali 10/10, The Terminator 6/10, The Trial 10/10, Exit Through The Gift Shop 10/10, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 7/10, The Phantom Carriage 10/10, Au Hasard Balthazar 3/10, The African Queen 10/10, My Night At Maud's 10/10, The Testament Of Dr. Mabuse 10/10, La Haine 10/10, The Pianist 7/10, Four Lions A-, Scream A+, Ali: Fear Eats The Soul B-, The Naked City 7/10, Floating Weeds 9/10, Daisies 8/10, Stray Dog 8/10, Victim 6/10, Man Bites Dog 9/10, Night and Fog 10/10, Weekend 8/10 (total: 108)

Basebf555 gets The Hitcher

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Magic Hate Ball posted:

4) Jubilee - gruel britannia

Go for that one, sounds potentially interesting.


I watched Dressed to Kill otherwise known as Dumb as poo poo. Good lord this movie sucks. I enjoy a lot of De Palma, Hitchcock, Giallo, slasher movies etc, seems up my alley. Just the movie had nothing new to offer, and is dated worse than most other movies in it's genre I'd say. So the movie is dull and either insults your intelligence or just doesn't really have an interesting direction to go. We know who did it and whatnot, it's all very obvious, the way they go about a by the numbers (only slower and lamer than usual) version of this story... yeah. Also it has a lot of 1980 talk on transexuals which is pretty rough, and I might have mentioned it's stupid. And it's stupid in a way where it aspires to be something more (when it's not), so it's not even entertaining like a schlockier giallo or suspense movie might be. Nancy Allen was good in it though. I do like the other De Palma thriller with her, Blow Out. That's from the next year, so I guess they tried again and got somewhere. Anyways, this movie is bad. Also I should mention the cop character is baffling, I've seen a lot of movie cops, this guy gets the cake for worst cop in movie history.

Here's my list:

Adventures in Babysitting - I've heard this mentioned a lot for some reason, it's probably great.

Rounders - Heard good things, big Norton fan, also has Matt Damon.

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home - I think I've seen some of it on TV in my youth. I love Wrath of Khan naturally.

Titan A.E. - Maybe what's shameful is the quantity of Matt Damon on this list.

Cat People - Has a helluva theme song by David Bowie as we know.

Moulin Rouge - It's been brought up and recommended to me before.

High Noon - Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper, super duper. Honored in the hit Puttin' on the Ritz.

Better Off Dead - An 80s Cusack comedy that I've seen lots of people dig, not sure if I'd dig it, but maybe!

Touch of Evil - The "restored" version, I hear this is a pretty interesting noir flick.

Withnail & I - I hear it's good, and that one guy in it is entertaining in Dom Hemingway and stuff.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Sep 24, 2016

Ratedargh
Feb 20, 2011

Wow, Bob, wow. Fire walk with me.

Heavy Metal posted:

Go for that one, sounds potentially interesting.


I watched Dressed to Kill otherwise known as Dumb as poo poo. Good lord this movie sucks. I enjoy a lot of De Palma, Hitchcock, Giallo, slasher movies etc, seems up my alley. Just the movie had nothing new to offer, and is dated worse than most other movies in it's genre I'd say. So the movie is dull and either insults your intelligence or just doesn't really have an interesting direction to go. We know who did it and whatnot, it's all very obvious, the way they go about a by the numbers (only slower and lamer than usual) version of this story... yeah. Also it has a lot of 1980 talk on transexuals which is pretty rough, and I might have mentioned it's stupid. And it's stupid in a way where it aspires to be something more (when it's not), so it's not even entertaining like a schlockier giallo or suspense movie might be. Nancy Allen was good in it though. I do like the other De Palma thriller with her, Blow Out. That's from the next year, so I guess they tried again and got somewhere. Anyways, this movie is bad. Also I should mention the cop character is baffling, I've seen a lot of movie cops, this guy gets the cake for worst cop in movie history.


I watched this recently for this very thread and you hit my reaction right on the head. It's just an awful film with no redeeming factors outside of Allen and the overall look of the film.

Though, it is interesting that one of the things that De Palma seems to have also borrowed from Hitchcock here is underdeveloped psychobabble!

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

What are the odds, at least I'm not alone. (I'm re-watching Twin Peaks currently by the way!)

If a dud keeps coming up in this topic we should put up warning signs or something. :D

Chili
Jan 23, 2004

college kids ain't shit


Fun Shoe
Go with Titan AE. It's by no means a perfect movie, but there's a lot of good stuff in there.

I watched Saturday Night Fever which came to me courtesy of my mother's recommendation. I didn't get it. It definitely caught a period of time and made a strong depiction of it but it didn't go much beyond that. The characters didn't grab me, there's a shitton of stuff that should've been cut and I'm not even talking about the gratuitous lukewarm dance scenes. It occasionally rose to the level of "fine". That's about it.

7/10

New List


1. Mr. Smith Goes To Washington - A standard "YOU MEAN YOU HAVEN'T SEEN_____" that I deal with from time to time.

2. Garden of Words - Heard it's very pretty.

3. Certified Copy - Heard about this director for the first time from this thread a few pages back. Let's see how it goes!

4. We Need To Talk About Kevin- Chili needs to see a film about Kevin?

5. Three Colors: Blue - A thread favorite, I'd like to check it out.

6. Metropolis – Hitler pick.

7. *NEW* Ajami *NEW* - Looks painful; someone knock me down a peg.

8. Deconstructing Harry - More Woody please!

9. Beasts Of The Southern Wild - All I know is that the kid is supposed to be great.

10. Good Morning, Vietnam- My understanding is that this is somewhat overrated but it's never boring watching Robin Williams.

130 Total De-Shamed!

Yojimbo 7.5/10, Aliens 6.5/10, Brazil 8/10, Cool Hand Luke 9.5/10, 28 Days Later 6/10, Predator 8.5/10, Blade Runner 7.5/10,Crimes and Misdemeanors 9/10, Vertigo 7/10, Being There 7.5/10, Psycho 10/10, Apocalypse Now 7.5/10, Citizen Kane 8.5/10, Dr. Strangelove 7/10, Close Encounters of the Third Kind 8.5/10, The Bicycle Thief 7/10, Raging Bull 8/10, Ikiru 10/10, Terminator 2: Judgement Day 7/10, The Night of the Hunter 8.5/10 How to Train Your Dragon 6.5/10, There Will Be Blood 8/10, Manhattan 7/10, Rashomon 8.5/10, Unforgiven 8.5/10 The Third Man 9.5/10, Requiem For A Dream 4/10, Charade 5.5/10, Sunset Blvd. 8/10 , Badlands 6.5/10, Dead Man 8.5/10, On The Waterfront 9/10, Mad Max 6/10, Singin' In The Rain 9.5/10, Sleeper 7.5/10, Enter The Dragon 6.5/10, The Hustler 8/10 , The Town 9/10, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas 5.5/10, Boogie Nights 7.5/10, Hanna 8.5/10, The Conversation 7.5/10, Serpico 8/10, Hoop Dreams 9/10, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind 8/10, Blood Simple 7.5/10, Roman Holiday 8.5/10, Miller's Crossing 8/10, M 7.5/10, Moonrise Kingdom 6.5/10, Rope 7/10, Tiny Furniture 1/10, On The Town 5.5/10, Gosford Park 5.5/10, Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, 8.5/10, City Lights 8.5/10, The Exorcist 6.5/10, California Split 7/10, Aguirre, The Wrath Of God 8/10, Following 8/10, The General 10/10, Barton Fink 8.5/10, Tombstone 8/10, The Hudsucker Proxy 9/10, Love Actually 6.5, La Dolce Vita 7/10, Chop Shop 9.5/10, Duck Soup 6/10, When Harry Met Sally 8/10, Tokyo Story 7/10, Kelly's Heroes 8/10, The Thing 8.5/10, Lost In Translation 9.5/10, Anchorman 6.5/10, Mulholland Dr. 8.5/10, Rebecca9/10, Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call - New Orleans 7/10, Steamboat Bill Jr. 9/10, Double Indemnity 9/10, A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum 6.5/10, The Man Who Wasn't There 8.10, Synecdoche, NY 10/10 , Leaving Las Vegas 9/10, The Hidden Fortress 8.5/10, Magnificent Seven 8/10, Dear Zachary -/10, The Fly 9/10, Time Bandits 6/10, Before Sunrise 6.5, The Buddy Holly Story 7/10, Pleasantville 7/10, The Rules of the Game 6/10, Senna 7.5/10, Kiki's Delivery Service 8/10, Gojira 9/10, The Blues Brothers 5/10, Notorious 7/10, Little Shop of Horrors 9/10 , The Last Starfighter 7/10, Rebel Without A Cause 8.5/10, Sherlock Jr. 7.5/10, Intolerable Cruelty, 9/10, The Ladykillers 9/10, Spring Breakers 7.5/10, Touch of Evil 8/10, The Purple Rose of Cairo, 9/10, My Cousin Vinny 7/10, Galaxy Quest 8/10, First Blood, 9/10, Arsenic and Old Lace, 7/10, Mad Max 2, 9/10, The Raid: Redemption, 8/10, Kramer vs. Kramer 9.5/10, Nightcrawler 10/10, Frank 9/10, Strangers On A Train 8/10 , Wild Strawberries 7.5/10, They Came Together 5.5/10, The Squid and the Whale, 10/10, Poolhall Junkies 1/10, Citizenfour 10/10, The 400 Blows 9.5/10, Event Horizon 2/10, Ashes and Diamonds, 8/10 Defending Your Life 9/10, The Informant! 8.5/10 The Lady and the Tramp 8.5/10, Memories of Murder 8.5/10, Ordinary People 8.5/10, Blue Ruin 7/10, F For Fake 9/10, The Best Years of Our Lives 6.5/10, Saturday Night Fever 7/10 [/b]


Chili fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Sep 26, 2016

Capfalcon
Apr 6, 2012

No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!

We Need To Talk About Kevin: A real solid thriller with a fantastic ending. Go ahead and watch it.

Posting my first list, so gimmie something nice.

1. Citizen Kane: It's apparently the first great movie, so it's probably good? Guess I always figured I picked up enough through pop culture osmosis to hold a conversation on it.

2. Lawrence of Arabia: My history friends say it's not too awful, historically speaking, but eh, can't say the idea ever really grabbed me.

3. The Machinist: Christian Bale is usually good, and it's his big movie before Batman. I just haven't been in a thriller mood recently, but I think I could get on board now.

4. Aguirre: The Wrath of God: I really don't know why I haven't seen this. I've really meant to watch it as soon as I heard the pitch, but I never got around to it.

5. Any Hitchcock movie outside of Psycho, Rear Window, and The Birds: There's just so many that it's easier to just watch something else.

6. Paprika: Ever since my anime friend moved, I haven't really watched anime. But, Every Frame A Painting made me want to really dig into this.

7. Howl's Moving Castle: It's the one we kept meaning to watch, but something else more pressing kept popping up.

8. The Man With No Name Trilogy: Literally haven't watched a western that wasn't Shane (it was for class) and Blazing Saddles, so might as well start with the top.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
If nobody watches anything between now and tomorrow morning, you're getting Aguirre because I can't pass up an opportunity to get someone to see that movie for the first time. I have to watch The Hitcher first before we can make it official though.

Skjorte
Jul 5, 2010
After finally getting around to watching parts I and II of The Godfather about a week ago, and enjoying them more than I'd expected, I feel inspired to catch up with the other classic films that I've just always put off watching. Apologies in advance for being really bad at films!

Capfalcon > I see no reason to step on Basebf555's recommendation, so Aguirre it is.

01 Citizen Kane - I don't remember hearing about this at all growing up. Since becoming aware of it, I've mainly seen it listed as an example of a movie that's historically significant but not necessarily easy to watch in this day and age, so that's a bit daunting.

02 Schindler's List - I've avoided it thus far because I imagine it's so much of a bummer that I'd have to take breaks constantly to make it through.

03 Goodfellas - I grew up thinking this was like a Mel Brooksian take on Godfather, which I also didn't know much about. Even when I realized I was wrong, I still felt like it'd had to wait until I watched the Godfather movies, but now there're no excuses.

04 Apocalypse Now - I thought this was the Bruce Willis film growing up, and the concept of that one didn't appeal to me. I don't know anything about it, but I always see it listed as one of the most must-see films ever.

05 Casablanca - I know literally nothing about it; I've always conflated it with Gone With the Wind, which I also never really considered watching.

06 Back to the Future - I know it has Michael J. Fox, that there's a car/time machine called the Delorean, and that the scientist is called Doc Brown. I get the vibe that this is a film I would've loved as a kid, but somehow it was just never on during my late-night channel surfing.

07 Ghost in the Shell - I didn't enjoy Akira as much as I'd hoped, so that + not knowing if the 90s movie was actually the proper way to get acquainted with GitS made me put this on the backburner.

08 Terminator 2 - One of the few movies where I feel like I know enough about it already to where I don't actually need to watch it, though I enjoyed the original.

09 Network - I watched the opening 5 minutes of this some years back and thought it started off well. No idea why I quit there; I think I'm just real bad at watching stuff.

10 The Admiral - I haven't kept up with South Korean cinema at all since maybe 2009. The Admiral is critically acclaimed, but that's all I know about it.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Skjorte posted:

03 Goodfellas - I grew up thinking this was like a Mel Brooksian take on Godfather, which I also didn't know much about. Even when I realized I was wrong, I still felt like it'd had to wait until I watched the Godfather movies, but now there're no excuses.

Seems like you'd definitely enjoy this after the Godfather films. Maybe if you like it check out some more Scorcese.

I watched The Hitcher, and I thought it was ok, but not great. Rutger Hauer's performance was good, as he always is, but maybe not quite as good as the hype around it. Actually, I thought C. Thomas Howell's performance was just as good if not better. I felt that the cat and mouse game between the two of them went on too long, and by the end I was just ready for Hauer to be dead already. I suppose part of my problem was that I already knew about the truck pulling scene, so there wasn't any shock value in it, but overall the movie just didn't click with me. I can see that it was definitely influential though, there have been plenty of "guy obsessively follows around another guy and makes his life hell" movies, the one that comes to mind immediately is I Saw the Devil. Still glad I watched it, I'm a huge horror fan so it was shameful that I hadn't yet.

Remaining list with a new horror entry to replace The Hitcher:

Red Beard: This is the last collaboration of Kurosawa and Mifune. I guess its length is the only reason I haven't seen it before now, but that's a dumb reason when talking Kurosawa.

The Brood: I like everything I've seen from Cronenberg but I haven't seen anything from this earlier period of his career.

Jamaica Inn - This is the Hitchcock slot for now, Jamaica Inn was made a year before my last pick, Foreign Correspondent.

The Long Voyage Home: Its John Ford, and its been on my Hulu queue for months. That is shameful.

Red Desert: I've never seen any Antonioni films in color. This seems like a good start, and then I'll eventually need to track down Blow Up.

Jigoku - I've seen a few sceen shots of this and it looks amazing. Its some sort of Dante's Inferno type story but from a Japanese perspective.

The Pit and the Pendulum: All horror all the time baby. To be up-front, if you pick either this, The Brood, or Jigoku, I'll watch it within 24 hours because tis the season. Anything else will be a little slower.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Jubilee

Wow, this was excellent! A tone poem movie, a string of scenes that are linked by a vague plot but are more about expanding the sensation of feeling lost, useless, and bored when there's nothing going for you. It's got an awesome sense of visual camp, and the way Jarman stays on point with it while mixing in genuinely good imagery is totally absorbing. It's got the same energy as a great musical, where every few minutes something invigorating and dazzling comes along. I really dug the scattering of sci-fi elements, as well, it's like if someone dropped acid while reading A Clockwork Orange and then directed an adaptation of it from memory. Britain is in a kind of semi-shambles - punks roam, cops take to quick violence, housewives carry guns and lament the loss of their friends while winning cheap plastic knickers at bingo.

But there's still a "top" to aspire to, as most of the characters are trying to get on TV, on Top of the Pops in their various punk bands with the help of a bug-eyed pop impresario (a cackling Jack Birkett). The top is fleeting - you have your moment, and then you spend the rest of your life reflecting on it. Watching this almost 40 years later gives the film a neat slant. At the time of release, punk was violent and modern. New York and London were both facing crises of crime, and if there had been a film made of the book High-Rise, it would've been on point. Where could society go? But now we're here, and punk is a safe, cute piece of memorabilia. Just as the disconcerted time-traveling Queen Elizabeth, at the end of the film, reflects on her jolly days of youth, so does our own culture look back at things like punk and say, "aw". How many millennials had parents who had punk phases? And now they watch Jeopardy and look tired.

I sat with my dad today as he looked on Google Maps and found every single house he lived in as a child, around the country, from Nowheresville Idaho, to Santa Cruz, California. He pointed the pointer at things that were there thirty years ago and said, "there's where we used to get cheeseburgers", or "here's where we used to go sledding". Time moves forward. The jubilee is over, but the genius of Jarman's film isn't that he's capturing the punk scene, or the state of Britain at the time, but that he does such a good job of bringing the feeling of losing time into a film. That point in your twenties when you realize that, even if life is really a wide, white ribbon, it still has an end, and you're moving towards it. Punk is dead, which is fine by me, I hate punk.

10/10

also here are some screencaps because it looked cool:







shame dome

1) Garlic Is As Good As Ten Mothers - true!! never too much garlic

2) The River - Inspired Satyajit Ray? Something about India? i have no idea

3) Blind Chance - I need to fill up on my Kieslowski

4) Sans Soleil - ive started this like five times but never got far in

5) The Freshman - llarold hoyd

6) Valerie and her Week of Wonders - magical realism

7) A Brief History of Time - billions and billions

8) The Marriage of Maria Braun - more fassbinder

9) Frances Ha - recent rave

10) A Day In The Country - ah, this seems short

Jules et Jim 6/10, Saving Private Ryan 9.5/10, Fitzcarraldo 9/10, The 39 Steps 7/10, Notorious 7/10, Run Lola Run 8/10, Downfall 7.5/10, The Searchers 7.5/10, Tokyo Story 7/10, Gone With The Wind 10/10, Touch Of Evil 9.5/10, Ikiru 7.5/10, The Apartment 7/10, Bicycle Thieves 7/10, Moon 7/10, The Color Purple 7.5/10. The French Connection 9.5/10, The Leopard 8/10, Yojimbo 8.5/10, Sanjuro 8/10, Das Boot 8.5/10, The Conformist 8/10, Breathless 9/10, Where The Wild Things Are 7.5/10, Vertigo 9/10, Raging Bull 10/10, Ordet 7/10, City Of God 9/10, The Wages Of Fear 9/10, Aguirre, The Wrath Of God 9/10, The Mirror 9.5/10, Through A Glass Darkly 10/10, On The Waterfront 6/10, The Straight Story 9/10, Lawrence Of Arabia 8.5/10, Dial M For Murder, 8/10 Winter Light 10/10, The Silence 9/10, Badlands 8/10, The Wrong Man 7/10, In The Mood For Love 9.5/10, Secret Honor 10/10, Gosford Park 10/10, Viridiana 7.5/10, The Exterminating Angel 9/10, Seven Samurai 10/10, Rashomon 9/10, The Godfather: Part II 10/10, La Dolce Vita 10/10, The Princess Bride 9/10, Bringing Up Baby 7/10, City Lights 9/10, Baraka 7/10, Au revior les enfants 8/10, Bonnie And Clyde 6.5, Hiroshima mon amour 8/10, Lost In Translation 10/10, The Piano 8/10, La Strada 7/10, Safety Last! 10/10 Vivre sa vie 9/10, Band Of Outsiders 8/10, Diary Of A Country Priest 7/10, Mommie Dearest 8/10, Once Upon A Time In The West 10/10, L'Atalante 7/10, All About My Mother 7/10, Shoot The Piano Player 8/10, Faces 10/10, The Passion Of Joan Of Arc 10/10, The Wild Bunch 6/10, Harold And Maude see my review, Pink Flamingos 8/10, Heat 10/10, Raising Arizona 7/10, L'Avventura 2/10, Atlantic City 9/10, The Magic Flute 9/10, Cleo From 5 To 7 9/10, Down By Law 10/10, Hoop Dreams 10/10, 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her ¿8/10?, La jetée 9/10, Night Of The Living Dead 9/10, Cool Hand Luke 6/10, Pather Panchali 10/10, The Terminator 6/10, The Trial 10/10, Exit Through The Gift Shop 10/10, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 7/10, The Phantom Carriage 10/10, Au Hasard Balthazar 3/10, The African Queen 10/10, My Night At Maud's 10/10, The Testament Of Dr. Mabuse 10/10, La Haine 10/10, The Pianist 7/10, Four Lions A-, Scream A+, Ali: Fear Eats The Soul B-, The Naked City 7/10, Floating Weeds 9/10, Daisies 8/10, Stray Dog 8/10, Victim 6/10, Man Bites Dog 9/10, Night and Fog 10/10, Weekend 8/10, Jubilee 10/10 (total: 109)

Basebf555 we meet again!!! u get THE BROOD

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Magic Hate Ball posted:

4) Sans Soleil - ive started this like five times but never got far in

Go for attempt #6.

Jurgan posted:

They have dinner with two terrible people who hate each other but are married. Their relationship is awful but they stay together mostly for monetary reasons.

Looking back I would've liked more scenes featuring Bibi Andersson and Gunnel Lindblom.

Jurgan posted:

Question: Don’t these two have children? We never see them.

On the other hand, they had children, and I would have liked to have seen how their reckless love lives affected them. It seemed a bit overly convenient that the children were always shunted off during the scenes, and given the story is about obligations, you’d think that biggest obligation would be relevant.

That's one of the consistent criticisms many have regarding this one. I didn't mind it too much.



Medicine Man - Another one of those jungle adventures with an environmentalist angle to it. Sean Connery plays a doctor looking for a cure to cancer and Lorraine Bracco plays the doctor looking to help him or cut his funding.

Way too many silly arguments between the two leads in the first act. I know they were trying to build tension to ultimately reverse it but I still got a headache. Unfortunately all aspects were extremely predictable. I saw every single turn coming about ten minutes before it happened. But I suppose if I was new to film I might've loved it.

That familiar ethical dilemma of saving one or sacrificing one to potentially save many is also present. A magical serum from a flower provides a cure for lymphoma (and possibly all cancers) but Dr. Campbell can't replicate it and is faced with a tough choice.

Eventually the obvious answer holding him back is found but he gets angry and starts a gigantic forest fire while fighting with construction workers about to bulldoze through their pristine magical flower forest. Oh well...nothing lasts forever.

In the end I found Dr. Campbell to have done bad research and also partially to blame for burning down a giant forest. Double failure.

The search for a cancer cure continues but I have little faith in Dr. Campbell and his ilk.


Also watched:

Inchon - There's a palpable disgust as WWII has just ended and tens of millions have died and here we are again with another insane invasion and a country tearing itself apart in the late 1940s. Perhaps the natural aftershocks of world conflict.

The communists are relentless in mowing down and killing the fleeing non-communists. They push deep into South Korea and the US has to come to the rescue and invade a critical area known as Port Inchon to cut off supply lines.

Laurence Olivier puts in a sickly, comedic performance as General Douglas MacArthur. It seems like elder abuse having him perform in his condition. There is a big group of famous people like Toshiro Mifune, Ben Gazzara, Richard Roundtree and Jacqueline Bisset as well. They perform well but are left at the mercy of the editors and directors.

There are plenty of small side stories that I won't go into but it's a giant discordant slog. So many dull action scenes, so many bland interiors, so much harsh and incompetent editing. In the end the USA saves South Korea from the evil communists. :911: and we end with a real speech by five-star General Douglas MacArthur. :eyepop:

Overall, another complete disaster. I'm glad I'm almost done with this Golden Raspberry series because I'd be morose if I had another thirty or forty films to go.

I will say that reading the films background gets funnier and funnier considering everything that went wrong.



Procrastination (231 completed):

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#229 Greed - I was futilely waiting for some hero to find the full original version somewhere but I'll throw in the towel at this juncture. 7/12/16

#232 The Beach - Been meaning to watch this. 8/17/16

#235 Communion - Continuing research for the upcoming alien invasion. 8/27/16

#236 Demolition Man - Make me watch it. 9/2/16

#237 Children of Heaven - Not to be confused with Children of Men. I'm very close to reconquering the IMDb top 250. This usually means a bunch of new films will enter the list shortly. 9/15/16

James Bond versus Godzilla (21/58 completed):

new Destroy All Monsters - Godzilla film number nine. 9/29/16

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (35/39 completed):

1984 Bolero - Bo Derek is back. 8/9/16

1983 The Lonely Lady - Not to be confused with The Lonely Guy (1984). 8/9/16

new 1981 Mommie Dearest - This one has a decent reputation AFAIK. 9/29/16

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Zogo, Mommie Dearest is the only one of those I've seen, so go for that.

I wish it wasn't the case, but I had a hard time getting into The Battle of Algiers - maybe chalk that up to desensitization over time? I think the café bombing scene worked amazingly and wish that the tension that registered throughout, but it never matched that even at the in media res standoff that's looming over Ali's whole story. I couldn't find much to latch onto from the characters, who worked better as representations of the figures in colonial insurgent movements than as actual people. I appreciate how well that was structured and the efforts made to show the shades of gray of the actions of both sides, but I can't say I wasn't checked out and waiting for it to wrap up toward the end.

1. Fitzcarraldo - I know this stars Klaus Kinski and a boat gets carried around. One of my friends had a very depressed literature professor who said this was his favorite movie.

2. The Holy Mountain - The only Jodorowsky I've seen was Santa Sangre (because it was on Netflix streaming) and from what I understand that was one of his most reserved and straightforward offerings, which is pretty insane.

3. The Double Life of Veronique - Someone recommended this to me in another thread a while ago and I never got around to seeing it. I really enjoyed the Three Colors trilogy but haven't been motivated to seek out any more Kieslowski.

4. Army of Shadows - Part 1/2 of the "finish a Criterion top 10 list" (Anthony Bourdain's) - I've heard that this does amazing things establishing an atmosphere of suffocating fear, and that's right up my alley.

5. Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence - Part 2/2 of the "finish a Criterion top 10 list" (Anthony Bourdain's) - the relationship between P.O.W. camp authorities and prisoners is a pretty fascinating dynamic, I'd say it's pretty hard to mess up making that interesting (although The Railway Man did)

6. Marnie - I've seen ten Hitchcock movies and never been disappointed - this goes to the front of the line because of the amazing trailer and Tippi Hedren/Sean Connery co-headlining.

7. Safe - I think I first heard about this via a reference in an article about Morgellons syndrome. That was utterly terrifying and I've had it on my shortlist since.

8. Swimming with Sharks - I vaguely remember referring to something as a "Swimming with Sharks" situation before and felt kind of weird about it since I haven't actually seen it. vOv

9. Jungle Fever - I've watched the ending shot of this probably a few dozen times without ever seeing the movie itself.

10. In the Cut - I've never seen a Jane Campion movie, let's start with a pulpy murder mystery.

De-shamed (42): Charade, Persona, The Sting, Double Indemnity, All About Eve, Inland Empire, Celine and Julie Go Boating, The Graduate, Bottle Rocket, Gone with the Wind, Three Colors: Red, Raging Bull, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Seven Samurai, Adam's Rib, Repulsion, Melancholia, Aguirre, The Wrath of God, Singin' In the Rain, O Brother, Where Art Thou?, Pan's Labyrinth, Notorious, A Fistful of Dollars, Little Dieter Needs to Fly, The Decameron, Intolerable Cruelty, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, Miller's Crossing, Nashville, M, Rosemary's Baby, Alien: Resurrection, Boogie Nights, Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Bringing Up Baby, The Magnificent Ambersons, Diabolique, Shock Corridor, Rififi, Brazil, Last Year at Marienbad, Blue Valentine, The Battle of Algiers

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Power of Pecota posted:

1. Fitzcarraldo - I know this stars Klaus Kinski and a boat gets carried around. One of my friends had a very depressed literature professor who said this was his favorite movie.

I love this movie, but you should also check out Aguirre: The Wrath of God if you haven't seen it.

I watched The Brood. I'm glad I've been seeing some earlier Cronenberg lately, until recently I'd never seen anything pre-Scanners. I loved Videodrome and Shivers, but The Brood feels like its a notch below those two. Its definitely a very interesting film, and THAT scene is of course very effective and nausea inducing, but overall I didn't feel there was enough of that typical Cronenberg style horror. There were some very solid performances in it though, Oliver Reed as a ridiculous guru character is worth the price of admission alone.

Remaining List with a new horror entry:

Red Beard: This is the last collaboration of Kurosawa and Mifune. I guess its length is the only reason I haven't seen it before now, but that's a dumb reason when talking Kurosawa.

Jamaica Inn - This is the Hitchcock slot for now, Jamaica Inn was made a year before my last pick, Foreign Correspondent.

The Long Voyage Home: Its John Ford, and its been on my Hulu queue for months. That is shameful.

Red Desert: I've never seen any Antonioni films in color. This seems like a good start, and then I'll eventually need to track down Blow Up.

Jigoku - I've seen a few sceen shots of this and it looks amazing. Its some sort of Dante's Inferno type story but from a Japanese perspective.

The Pit and the Pendulum(1961): Vincent Price, enough said.

House of Usher(1960): See above

Dmitri Russkie
Feb 13, 2008

Basebf555, I was introduced to Kurosawa in this thread, and I haven't yet seen a bad movie from him. See Red Beard.

Wall Street was the latest movie I watched. Phenomenal job by Michael Douglas. Charlie Sheen was really good too, but Douglas really carried this movie. He was just so charismatic and energetic. Very technical movie, but easy to follow for a non-financial lay person like me. Loved the hustle and bustle of New York in this movie.

My List:
The Shootist - Feel like it's time for another John Wayne movie.

Life of Pi - Something about a tiger on a boat

Faust - Looking forward to another Murnau film.

Reds - Don't know much about this movie.

A Day at the Races - More Marx Brothers madness, please.

The Cat Returns - Need to see some more Studio Ghibli. Sequel to Whisper of the Heart

Dodesukaden - Starting to run out of Kurosawa films. What a great director.

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers - This is one of my grandmothers favorite movies. I haven't seen it yet.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - This was recommended by a friend who enjoys silent movies.

Dial M For Murder - More Hitchcock here.

Movies Seen: Seven Samurai, Dune, Singin' in the Rain, Animal Crackers, Once Upon a Time in the West, Amadeus, Double Indemnity, The Day the Earth Stood Still, 12 Angry Men, Ed Wood, Sunset Boulevard, The Dark Knight, Plan 9 From Outer Space, Brazil, Rashomon, Yojimbo, No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood, M, Duck Soup, The Princess and the Frog, Sanjuro, The Hidden Fortress, Dracula, It's a Wonderful Life, Lawrence of Arabia, Ikiru, High and Low, Frankenstein, The Mummy, Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, Kagemusha, Best In Show, Modern Times, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Red Beard, Monty Python's The Life of Brian, Cars, Cool Hand Luke, The Public Enemy, Time Bandits, Adaptation, The Producers, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Gone With The Wind, My Fair Lady, City Lights, A Christmas Carol(1951), Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, West Side Story, Caddyshack, My Neighbor Totoro, Throne of Blood, The Phantom of the Opera, Yellow Submarine, Little Caesar, The Third Man, The Godfather, Persepolis, The Godfather Part II, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, The Invisible Man, The Adventures of Robin Hood, The Bridge on the River Kwai, A Beautiful Mind, The Kid, Fiddler on the Roof, The Gold Rush, Metropolis, Rear Window, Enter the Dragon, Horse Feathers, The Great Dictator, Despicable Me, The Bad Sleep Well, The Wolf Man, Nosferatu, Patton, Howl's Moving Castle, The King and I, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Kiki's Delivery Service, The King's Speech, Grave of the Fireflies, Porco Rosso, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, The Graduate, Whisper of the Heart, The 39 Steps, Ran, Notorious, True Grit, North By Northwest, Rope, Dersu Uzala, Vertigo, Avatar, Gangs of New York, House of Wax, Wall Street

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Dmitri Russkie posted:

Life of Pi - Something about a tiger on a boat

Try this next.



Mommie Dearest - What a hit job. If only every movie star got this treatment! Anyone can be made to look good or bad if you pick and choose from a whole life. Let's do the basic math. The average person lives ~650,000 hours. So naturally biopics are tricky as one can struggle with what to include/exclude and the interesting ones never seem to cover enough. I think anyone could find two really awful hours worth of material from their life.

It's nearly perfect in its mania and on the far end of the tolerable side of the Golden Raspberry. Most scenes involving Crawford (Faye Dunaway) come off as a mixture of funny and unhinged nutcasery. She's a younger Norma Desmond on steroids. A raving lunatic in scene after scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqM1ttqNA9k

Too many amazing and awesome individual scenes to mention. Fights against her daughter as if she's a rival to her fame. And when things do slow down it's a complete 180° and turns the film into an emotional roller coaster.

I also liked that it delved into a decent amount of history and hit on a lot of gossipy milestones. Including a scene like this was good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKn00A40uWE

It's a shame we didn't get to see anything pre-1939.


Procrastination (231 completed):

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#229 Greed - I was futilely waiting for some hero to find the full original version somewhere but I'll throw in the towel at this juncture. 7/12/16

#232 The Beach - Been meaning to watch this. 8/17/16

#235 Communion - Continuing research for the upcoming alien invasion. 8/27/16

#236 Demolition Man - Make me watch it. 9/2/16

#237 Children of Heaven - Not to be confused with Children of Men. I'm very close to reconquering the IMDb top 250. This usually means a bunch of new films will enter the list shortly. 9/15/16

new #238 Jeepers Creepers II - A classic case of procrastination as I liked the first one and should've watched this years ago. I believe a third film is being made. 10/7/16

James Bond versus Godzilla (21/58 completed):

Destroy All Monsters - Godzilla film number nine. 9/29/16

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (36/39 completed):

1984 Bolero - Bo Derek is back. 8/9/16

1983 The Lonely Lady - Not to be confused with The Lonely Guy (1984). 8/9/16

Trash Boat
Dec 28, 2012

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Zogo, seeing as how Halloween season is just kicking in (and I've admittedly not seen any of the films on your list), I'm gonna go with the horror movie pick and give you Jeepers Creepers II.

Finally got around to watching No Country For Old Men, which was very good. What initially is initially framed as a cat-and-mouse thriller over illicit money, smartly becomes a cautionary tale about stubbornly digging oneself further into a bad situation and only making it worse, personified through Llewellyn sudden and anti-climactic murder, his wife being unwillingly dragged in as a direct result of both his and Anton's persistence, and through Ed Ball's decision to retire his job as Sheriff, lest the same fate happen to him. The cast is pretty rock solid all-around, with the obvious standout in my mind being Javier Bardem as Anton Chigurh, who coldly exudes the character's unwavering amorality and dedication every moment he's on screen. With regards to cinematography, I really appreciated how certain shot compositions and scenarios were mirrored to highlight the parallels between the three leads and their situations (just a few examples that come to mind being Anton's/Ball's reflection in Llewelyn's TV, several darkened shots of characters lying face-up awake in bed, and Llewelyn/Anton buying teen's clothes to treat their wounds). All in all, a solid film with a lot to unpack, with easily more than enough to reward repeated viewings.

1. Good Morning Vietnam - Continuing my Robin Williams film spree with one of the films that really put him on the map.

2. A Hard Day's Night - I love The Beatles but have only seen Yellow Submarine as far as their films are concerned. This one in particular seems especially well regarded.

3. Requiem for a Dream - A fun-filled romp for the whole family!

4. Plan 9 From Outer Space - The B-movie to define all B-movies?

5. Whiplash - One of my best friends considers this his favourite film of 2014, and J.K. Simmons generally hasn't steered me wrong in the past.

6. A Nightmare on Elm Street - Man, he sure says bitch a lot.

7. Porco Rosso - Starting to get into the Miyazaki material that I really don't know a whole lot about going in.

8. Mad Max: Fury Road - Meant to see this when it was in theatres over the summer but never got around to it. Alternatively, I haven't watched any of the earlier Mad Max films either, so if you think Fury Road is better appreciated having watched any of those first, feel free to recommend one of those instead.

9. The Wolf of Wall Street - My understanding is that this shares a lot of structural and thematic similarities to Goodfellas, so for the sake of contrasting the two, I figured it'd make for a suitable follow-up to the Scorsese slot. At any rate, I had been interested in seeing this one and do love me a good black comedy.

10. Fargo - Following up No Country For Old Men with the film that, as I understand it, finally made the Coen Brothers a household name.

Deshamed (55): Monty Python's Life of Brian, My Neighbor Totoro, Alien, Back to the Future, Star Wars: A New Hope, Aliens, Hot Fuzz, Ghostbusters, The Fisher King, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, Good Will Hunting, Wayne's World, One Hour Photo, This is the End, Inglourious Basterds, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi, John Carpenter's The Thing, The Social Network, The Blair Witch Project, The Silence of the Lambs, Se7en, Fantasia, Kill Bill, The Iron Giant, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, The Avengers, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Zombieland, Grave of the Fireflies, Kiki's Delivery Service, The Shawshank Redemption, Fight Club, 21 Jump Street, The Godfather, Jackie Brown, Citizen Kane, Pink Floyd - The Wall, Birdman, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, Back to the Future: Part II, Star Wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace, Zodiac, Princess Mononoke, The Godfather Part II, Halloween, Spirited Away, Star Wars Episode II - Attack of the Clones, Star Wars Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, UHF, Goodfellas, No Country For Old Men

Trash Boat fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Oct 9, 2016

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!

Mommie Dearest is interesting because I think in some regards it would have gone over better if it wasn't explicitly about Crawford and like you said, "a hit job." I think it offended a lot of people and put them off of it.

However, it's that semi-real absurdity of the fact that it is Joan Crawford that makes the movie what it is. She's one of our few real mythical film figures in a lot of ways and that adds layers to the movie that make it so enjoyable and fascinating.

Anyway, I swear I'm gonna rejoin this thread soon. Just wanted to chime in and say Mommie Dearest owns.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Mommie Dearest is great and the John Waters commentary on the DVD is a blast. He spends a lot of time just giggling but he also goes into the life of Crawford herself, the public reaction to the film, its merits and faults (it does a great job of throwing back to 40s films), the nature of cult movies, and where the line between bad and so-bad-it's-good is. It's actually really enlightening.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Magic Hate Ball posted:

Mommie Dearest is great and the John Waters commentary on the DVD is a blast. He spends a lot of time just giggling but he also goes into the life of Crawford herself, the public reaction to the film, its merits and faults (it does a great job of throwing back to 40s films), the nature of cult movies, and where the line between bad and so-bad-it's-good is. It's actually really enlightening.

I listened to some of that too and had the same reaction.

TrixRabbi posted:

Mommie Dearest is interesting because I think in some regards it would have gone over better if it wasn't explicitly about Crawford and like you said, "a hit job." I think it offended a lot of people and put them off of it.

However, it's that semi-real absurdity of the fact that it is Joan Crawford that makes the movie what it is. She's one of our few real mythical film figures in a lot of ways and that adds layers to the movie that make it so enjoyable and fascinating.

Anyway, I swear I'm gonna rejoin this thread soon. Just wanted to chime in and say Mommie Dearest owns.

Yea, if one could make an exposé film like this about every big movie star (or celebrity/politician) there would be a ton of backlash. It's definitely one of the most memorable, stimulating and repeatedly shocking things I've seen so far this year. Up there with things like Short Cuts and Strange Days.

PS I've been skimming through the October horror thread and agree that Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter is the pinnacle of the series and a good capstone to a quadrilogy. Very potent and a great mix of horror and comedy.

The title becomes more erroneously humorous as the years go by as well.

Trash Boat posted:

Zogo, seeing as how Halloween season is just kicking in (and I've admittedly not seen any of the films on your list), I'm gonna go with the horror movie pick and give you Jeepers Creepers II.

Yea, my list is getting obscurer. I may try and finish the IMDb Top 250 films with the most votes. That should add a lot of common ones to my list that I'm sure many here have seen.

It appears that I can't find Can't Stop the Music anywhere so I may never finish the Golden Raspberry list. Maybe that's the appropriate ending.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Trash Boat posted:

6. A Nightmare on Elm Street - Man, he sure says bitch a lot.

A seasonal selection.




Jeepers Creepers II - Despite having only two appearances The Creeper is one of the more memorable killers in this genre in recent years. He's fast, he's hungry and he needs new body parts. Luckily a school bus filled with chicken high schoolers is nearby.

Terrorizing a high school basketball team isn't much of a challenge for The Creeper (who looks a little like one of the creatures from Gargoyles (1972)). He easily dispatches most of the whiny and unlikable basketball players and their dullard coaches one by one.

Most of the magic from the original film is absent unfortunately. Only a fathers revenge with a harpoon weapon out of Jaws can slow him down.

Also watched:

Bolero - Mainstream films rarely get more erotic than this. It's the story of three girls and their quest to lose their virginity in different European countries (eventually settling on Spain).

Most of the story plays out as a silly affair and isn't very engaging but the eroticism and sexual awakenings are done in a way that's very blunt and straightforward. An actual Harlequin Romance/bodice ripper novel in film form. Truly a rarity.


Procrastination (232 completed):

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#229 Greed - I was futilely waiting for some hero to find the full original version somewhere but I'll throw in the towel at this juncture. 7/12/16

#232 The Beach - Been meaning to watch this. 8/17/16

#235 Communion - Continuing research for the upcoming alien invasion. 8/27/16

#236 Demolition Man - Make me watch it. 9/2/16

#237 Children of Heaven - Not to be confused with Children of Men. I'm very close to reconquering the IMDb top 250. This usually means a bunch of new films will enter the list shortly. 9/15/16

new #239 The War of the Gargantuas - Election season 2016. 10/16/16

new #240 The Idiots - Part two of a loose trilogy. 10/16/16

James Bond versus Godzilla (21/58 completed):

Destroy All Monsters - Godzilla film number nine. 9/29/16

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (37/39 completed):

1983 The Lonely Lady - Not to be confused with The Lonely Guy (1984). 8/9/16

Capfalcon
Apr 6, 2012

No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!

Out of that list, I've seen Demolition Man. So... Demolition Man. Enjoy! (?)

So, Aguirre: The Wrath of God was a pretty great first choice. Aside from some questionable editing early on, it's a wonderful story that's content to just let the camera watch the unfolding disaster without making you pick a side. But, one thing I didn't expect? That it was going to be funny. I mean, I laughed out loud at several scenes, largely due to how overwrought the whole enterprise of setting up their new kingdom was. It made the petty backstabbing and lying so pointlessly funny that I couldn't help myself. Another example: around the second third of the movie, there's one scene where you get a shot of everyone who isn't really on board with this mad plan anymore, and their faces say nothing more than "Well. Guess I'm gonna die out here."

Madness and hubris have never been so entertaining. 9/10

1. Citizen Kane: It's apparently the first great movie, so it's probably good? Guess I always figured I picked up enough through pop culture osmosis to hold a conversation on it.

2. Lawrence of Arabia: My history friends say it's not too awful, historically speaking, but eh, can't say the idea ever really grabbed me.

3. The Machinist: Christian Bale is usually good, and it's his big movie before Batman. I just haven't been in a thriller mood recently, but I think I could get on board now.

4. F for Fake: Another I've been meaning to watch for a while.

5. Paprika: Ever since my anime friend moved, I haven't really watched anime. But, Every Frame A Painting made me want to really dig into this.

6. Howl's Moving Castle: It's the one we kept meaning to watch, but something else more pressing kept popping up.

7. The Man With No Name Trilogy: Literally haven't watched a western that wasn't Shane (it was for class) and Blazing Saddles, so might as well start with the top.

8. Children of Men: Who needs to feel happy, anyway?

9. Last Action Hero: I've heard really mixed things about it, but the idea really appeals to me.


De-shamed: Aguirre: The Wrath of God 9/10

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Zogo posted:

Jeepers Creepers II - Despite having only two appearances The Creeper is one of the more memorable killers in this genre in recent years. He's fast, he's hungry and he needs new body parts. Luckily a school bus filled with chicken high schoolers is nearby.

Terrorizing a high school basketball team isn't much of a challenge for The Creeper (who looks a little like one of the creatures from Gargoyles (1972)). He easily dispatches most of the whiny and unlikable basketball players and their dullard coaches one by one.

Most of the magic from the original film is absent unfortunately. Only a fathers revenge with a harpoon weapon out of Jaws can slow him down.

The movie gets much creepier when you learn the director was a pedophile who was arrested for molesting teenage boys. So the monster licking its lips while leering at high school boys is really gross.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Jurgan posted:

The movie gets much creepier when you learn the director was a pedophile who was arrested for molesting teenage boys. So the monster licking its lips while leering at high school boys is really gross.

Yea, I'd heard that. The opening sequence involves a young child being abducted and it's not hard to make links if one wants to. The Creeper definitely likes to use his tongue on the youngsters in both films:

https://youtu.be/CSo9t7KKnSs?t=1m30s

It's easy to parse and make links with the proclivities of a film monster and the author himself (the same could be said for film critics and what films they like/dislike). If one were to psychoanalyze a lot of these horror writers I think the interview tapes would be really disturbing.

HP Hovercraft
Jan 1, 2006

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Mommie Dearest is fun and all but it's far from Frank Perry at his best. Check out David & Lisa, The Swimmer, and Last Summer for some 60's masterpieces. Such an underrated director.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

HP Hovercraft posted:

Mommie Dearest is fun and all but it's far from Frank Perry at his best. Check out David & Lisa, The Swimmer, and Last Summer for some 60's masterpieces. Such an underrated director.

I'll add those two my queue. Last Summer looks like it'd be really hard to track down as it's never been released on DVD.

Dmitri Russkie
Feb 13, 2008

Capfalcon, see the first of the man with no name trilogy, A Fistful of Dollars.

Just saw Life of Pi. That was such a thoughtful and visually impressive movie. The cinematography was outstanding and the performances were great. Really made you think. Personally, while the second story was more believable, I think the first story, however fantastical, was the one that I think was true. I've read many interpretations of the two stories since seeing this movie, but what it comes down to for me was the realization that I think that sometimes amazing and borderline miraculous things do happen occasionally, although rarely, and I'm not sure I want to live in a world where every single thing is known or explainable.

My List:
The Shootist - Feel like it's time for another John Wayne movie.

The Big Lebowski

Faust - Looking forward to another Murnau film.

Reds - Don't know much about this movie.

A Day at the Races - More Marx Brothers madness, please.

The Cat Returns - Need to see some more Studio Ghibli. Sequel to Whisper of the Heart

Dodesukaden - Starting to run out of Kurosawa films. What a great director.

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers - This is one of my grandmothers favorite movies. I haven't seen it yet.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - This was recommended by a friend who enjoys silent movies.

Dial M For Murder - More Hitchcock here.

Movies Seen: Seven Samurai, Dune, Singin' in the Rain, Animal Crackers, Once Upon a Time in the West, Amadeus, Double Indemnity, The Day the Earth Stood Still, 12 Angry Men, Ed Wood, Sunset Boulevard, The Dark Knight, Plan 9 From Outer Space, Brazil, Rashomon, Yojimbo, No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood, M, Duck Soup, The Princess and the Frog, Sanjuro, The Hidden Fortress, Dracula, It's a Wonderful Life, Lawrence of Arabia, Ikiru, High and Low, Frankenstein, The Mummy, Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, Kagemusha, Best In Show, Modern Times, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Red Beard, Monty Python's The Life of Brian, Cars, Cool Hand Luke, The Public Enemy, Time Bandits, Adaptation, The Producers, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Gone With The Wind, My Fair Lady, City Lights, A Christmas Carol(1951), Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, West Side Story, Caddyshack, My Neighbor Totoro, Throne of Blood, The Phantom of the Opera, Yellow Submarine, Little Caesar, The Third Man, The Godfather, Persepolis, The Godfather Part II, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, The Invisible Man, The Adventures of Robin Hood, The Bridge on the River Kwai, A Beautiful Mind, The Kid, Fiddler on the Roof, The Gold Rush, Metropolis, Rear Window, Enter the Dragon, Horse Feathers, The Great Dictator, Despicable Me, The Bad Sleep Well, The Wolf Man, Nosferatu, Patton, Howl's Moving Castle, The King and I, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Kiki's Delivery Service, The King's Speech, Grave of the Fireflies, Porco Rosso, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, The Graduate, Whisper of the Heart, The 39 Steps, Ran, Notorious, True Grit, North By Northwest, Rope, Dersu Uzala, Vertigo, Avatar, Gangs of New York, House of Wax, Wall Street, Life of Pi

friendo55
Jun 28, 2008

Dmitri Russkie posted:


The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari - This was recommended by a friend who enjoys silent movies.


Enjoy this classic!


Charley Varrick
This continues my enjoyment of 70s action/crime films alongside The Friends of Eddie Coyle, The Conversation, The Long Goodbye, and others I know I'm forgetting. Walter Matthau may give his best performance of all his 70s action/drama roles as Charley. Even with a fun supporting cast around him, this story truly revolves around him - and he carries the weight with ease.




LIST
Dark Victory [1939] - (2016.05.29) - one of those films you don't hear discussed much, but a revisit of All About Eve makes me want more Bette Davis!

Drugstore Cowboy [1989] - (2016.06.23) - I'll replace one addiction movie with another, though I wonder if Matt Dillon can compare to Nic Cage.

A Face in the Crowd [1957] **NEW** (2016.10.24) - keeping a Matthau film on here - and again, one I've wanted to watch for a while.

Farewell My Concubine [1993] - (2016.04.13) - replacing with another long, foreign film that I won't watch unless told to here.

Gilda [1946] - **OLDEST** (2015.11.27) - I'll replace an early Rita Hayworth film with her most iconic.

It Should Happen To You [1954] - (2016.09.15) - replacing my previous Jack Lemmon selection with Lemmon's debut film

Love and Death [1975] - (2016.09.01) - adding a Woody Allen film to continue my completion of his filmography.

Marketa Lazarova [1967] - (2016.05.05) - best place to put a lengthy acclaimed film... I'll keep putting it off otherwise! I sound like a broken record.

Nobody Knows [2004] - (2016.04.23) - a 2+hr Kore-eda film that would be my 3rd film of his. Long overdue.

Slacker [1991] - (2016.07.17) - want to keep Linklater films a presence here until I'm fully caught up. This is a gorgeous Criterion blind-buy sitting unwatched.


De-shamed Pt2: True Romance (4/5), The Right Stuff (3/5), Syndromes And A Century (4/5), Still Life (3/5), My Cousin Vinny (2.5/5), Doctor Zhivago (3.5/5), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (4.5/5), Peeping Tom (4/5), Shadow of a Doubt (4.5/5), The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (4.5/5), Only Angels Have Wings (4/5), Umberto D (4/5), Anatomy of a Murder (4.5/5), Only God Forgives (1.5/5), Missing (3.5/5), Howl's Moving Castle (4.5/5), Rio Bravo (4/5), Cloud Atlas (3.5/5), Children of Paradise (4/5), That Obscure Object of Desire (5/5), The Fountain (3/5), Malcolm X (4/5), Warrior (4/5), American Movie (4/5), Being There (4/5), Leaving Las Vegas (4.5/5), Rope (4/5), Ed Wood (4.5/5), American Hustle (2.5/5), The Man Who Knew Too Much (3.5/5), Mister Roberts (4/5), Charley Varrick (4/5), [Total:132]

Trash Boat
Dec 28, 2012

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Friendo55, I've not seen any of your films, but my friend random.org is telling me that you should choose. A Face in the Crowd.

Just got done watching A Nightmare on Elm Street. Don't have too much to say about this one, just an all-around fun, if somewhat dated (though not as badly as I had imagined it might be) slasher film, with a still original premise, a great villain, and effective editing, set and sound design that often manages to blur the line between dream and reality. Just the sort of thing I was in the mood for for Halloween season.

1. Good Morning Vietnam - Continuing my Robin Williams film spree with one of the films that really put him on the map.

2. A Hard Day's Night - I love The Beatles but have only seen Yellow Submarine as far as their films are concerned. This one in particular seems especially well regarded.

3. Requiem for a Dream - A fun-filled romp for the whole family!

4. Plan 9 From Outer Space - The B-movie to define all B-movies?

5. Whiplash - One of my best friends considers this his favourite film of 2014, and J.K. Simmons generally hasn't steered me wrong in the past.

6. Porco Rosso - Starting to get into the Miyazaki material that I really don't know a whole lot about going in.

7. Mad Max: Fury Road - Meant to see this when it was in theatres over the summer but never got around to it. Alternatively, I haven't watched any of the earlier Mad Max films either, so if you think Fury Road is better appreciated having watched any of those first, feel free to recommend one of those instead.

8. The Wolf of Wall Street - My understanding is that this shares a lot of structural and thematic similarities to Goodfellas, so for the sake of contrasting the two, I figured it'd make for a suitable follow-up to the Scorsese slot. At any rate, I had been interested in seeing this one and do love me a good black comedy.

9. Fargo - Following up No Country For Old Men with the film that, as I understand it, finally made the Coen Brothers a household name.

10. The Exorcist - No real excuse not to have seen this already, nor to neglect throwing it on here while in horror movie season.

Deshamed (56): Monty Python's Life of Brian, My Neighbor Totoro, Alien, Back to the Future, Star Wars: A New Hope, Aliens, Hot Fuzz, Ghostbusters, The Fisher King, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, Good Will Hunting, Wayne's World, One Hour Photo, This is the End, Inglourious Basterds, Star Wars: Return of the Jedi, John Carpenter's The Thing, The Social Network, The Blair Witch Project, The Silence of the Lambs, Se7en, Fantasia, Kill Bill, The Iron Giant, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, The Avengers, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Zombieland, Grave of the Fireflies, Kiki's Delivery Service, The Shawshank Redemption, Fight Club, 21 Jump Street, The Godfather, Jackie Brown, Citizen Kane, Pink Floyd - The Wall, Birdman, The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, Back to the Future: Part II, Star Wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace, Zodiac, Princess Mononoke, The Godfather Part II, Halloween, Spirited Away, Star Wars Episode II - Attack of the Clones, Star Wars Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, UHF, Goodfellas, No Country For Old Men, A Nightmare on Elm Street

Trash Boat fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Oct 26, 2016

GMEEOORH
Mar 12, 2012

Trash Boat posted:

2. A Hard Day's Night - I love The Beatles but have only seen Yellow Submarine as far as their films are concerned. This one in particular seems especially well regarded.
My mother was super into the beatles, like a proper obsessed teen when they were around. So I grew up with their records and movies. Not all of them are particularly amazing, but this ones pretty good I think. Have fun!


Ipad ate a couple of paragraphs so this is gonna be a bit bare bones, sorry.

Loved Nightcrawler! Feel like this really nailed a lot of the things I was disappointed with American Psycho for. Guy that req'd this was right, Jake Gyllenhaal is fantastic. Even though not every movie he does ends up being good, he really does seem to be activslly trying to find challenging and intersting roles recent[y. I really appreciate that.

Also watched these two off my list cause they happened to come up in threatres here:

Chungking Express is lovely. Having watched a few more Wong movies I can say he's kinda hit or miss for me, but when it really works like here, it ends up among my all-time favs.

Elephant's great as well. Underselling the drama and sentimentallity is the only way to keep this story bearable, and I have to say they just nailed it.

Also watched Singin in the Rain which wasn't on my list, but should have been. Wandered into it because I had a movie pass and a free afternoon and I ended up loving it. Was surprised to see how much Hail, Caesar cribbed from it and how much better it was here.



Man with a Movie Camera - Often shows up on lists of great films and everything about how it was made and how that's incorporated into the film sounds really interesting.

Thief - Other Mann movies I've seen were good, need to watch this one.

Strange Days - Picked this up at a thrift store a year or so back and I've been close to watching it about a dozen times.

Spider - Went to a big Cronenberg exhibition last year and I've slowly been going through all his films. This one is next.

Tangerine - There was a lot of buzz about this last year and I've been meaning to watch it. Pretty pissed that I missed the first and only theatrical showing of this in Amsterdam last week.

The Passion of Joan of Arc - Looks intense.

Copie Conforme - Been meaning to watch this for a while. R.I.P. Abbas Kiarostami.

It Follows - Was a bit divisive, but most of the people I usually agree with seemed to really love it.

Bad Lieutenants - Both of them! I have them lying around. Make me watch them!

New:

Les Yeux sans visage - Someone mentioned this as an old scary movie that really holds up.

~~~WOMEN~~~ (to be expanded)
The Arbor
We Need to Talk About Kevin
The Babadook



Watched /100 : The Night of the Hunter - 81, F for Fake - 78, Throne of Blood - 82, American Psycho - 58 , A Separation -89, Robocop - 80, Jaws - 73, E.T. - 81, Suspiria - 75

GMEEOORH fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Oct 27, 2016

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
GMEEOORH, please enjoy The Passion Of Joan Of Arc

Sans Soleil

"Please excuse these disorganized thoughts. I'm leaving you a rather melancholy picture, but in the depths of my heart I am happy. I have spoken frankly, forgive me.”"

Call it a documentary, a collage, or an essay. Like all good essays, it's essentially longform poetry using more academic language than we imagine when we say "poem", but there are still the twists and sharp jabs of poetry. Marker's writing - no, that's wrong. I assume it's Marker's writing, but he shrouds it under multiple layers, first under the pen name of a fictional cameraman, then using an unnamed woman to not only read but conjecture upon the cameraman's letters, which he sends to her from around the world. Not only do we then have a clouded view of Marker's "original" narrative, which might seem thudding if it were simply read as it might have originally been, but a purposeful femininity that almost becomes androgyny, sidestepping the potential for male gaze. In any case, the narration has moments of startling humanity, moments of visible thematic collusion, bits where the train of thought takes an unexpected, provocative turn.

It reminds me of the work of Laurie Anderson, who also weaves discursive, dreamlike narratives that casually circle their thesis/theses, supplementing and supporting it with a vague mist of details that seem both random and eerily on-point in a slanted, unexpected way. In fact, they even share an anecdote - Anderson, performing phonetic French performances in France, would come under the temporary illusion that she could actually speak French, until she spoke to an actual French person, and Marker, or his fake duplicate cameraman, has a moment of confusion when French is spoken in the dense nonsense of Japanese television and believes, for a moment, that he has become fluent in Japanese.

In that same way, I felt, at moments, to be fluent in Marker's language. Not French, but the flow of his ideas. There's a tremendous amount to grapple with, and the collision of dense, fragmented narration and evocative, gauzy imagery means that, frequently, four or five ideas are coming at you at once. But it's not in an unpleasant way. In the film, he suggests that Hitchcock's Vertigo is the only film to successfully translate the craziness of "insane memory", and Marker's own film is one of the few to successfully translate the organic, beguiling density of a really good dream. You watch the dream, and then you have a memory of the dream, and later you think, what was the dream about?

San soleil - sunless, without sun. Only in memories can we see without light, though what kind of seeing is it? He features, multiple times, the video art of a colleague (possibly fictional), which makes a blurry, inviting mess of whatever is put into it. Through the synthesizer, with all its little buttons, holes, sliders, and plugs, "war looks like the burning of books". One moving sequence features footage of kamikaze planes crashing into ships and the ocean, their smoke tails fanning out behind them like vibrant, unreal peacock trains. The cameraman visits an island that has only a town and a desert - to walk straight through the town is to enter the desert. Elsewhere, it is commented upon that the Japanese live with a slighter veil between life and the dead than the people in the West. Is it so simple to walk from life to death? Is there a moment of surprise as your foot sinks into the sand?

"Will there be a last letter?", asks the woman at the end of the film. Is there a last frame? Or only a sudden blackness?

10/10

shame sphere

1) Garlic Is As Good As Ten Mothers - true!! never too much garlic

2) The River - Inspired Satyajit Ray? Something about India? i have no idea

3) Blind Chance - I need to fill up on my Kieslowski

4) Candidate - kennedy kennedy kennedy kennedy kennedy kennedy kenn-e-dy for me

5) The Freshman - llarold hoyd

6) Valerie and her Week of Wonders - magical realism

7) A Brief History of Time - billions and billions

8) The Marriage of Maria Braun - more fassbinder

9) Frances Ha - recent rave

10) A Day In The Country - ah, this seems short

Jules et Jim 6/10, Saving Private Ryan 9.5/10, Fitzcarraldo 9/10, The 39 Steps 7/10, Notorious 7/10, Run Lola Run 8/10, Downfall 7.5/10, The Searchers 7.5/10, Tokyo Story 7/10, Gone With The Wind 10/10, Touch Of Evil 9.5/10, Ikiru 7.5/10, The Apartment 7/10, Bicycle Thieves 7/10, Moon 7/10, The Color Purple 7.5/10. The French Connection 9.5/10, The Leopard 8/10, Yojimbo 8.5/10, Sanjuro 8/10, Das Boot 8.5/10, The Conformist 8/10, Breathless 9/10, Where The Wild Things Are 7.5/10, Vertigo 9/10, Raging Bull 10/10, Ordet 7/10, City Of God 9/10, The Wages Of Fear 9/10, Aguirre, The Wrath Of God 9/10, The Mirror 9.5/10, Through A Glass Darkly 10/10, On The Waterfront 6/10, The Straight Story 9/10, Lawrence Of Arabia 8.5/10, Dial M For Murder, 8/10 Winter Light 10/10, The Silence 9/10, Badlands 8/10, The Wrong Man 7/10, In The Mood For Love 9.5/10, Secret Honor 10/10, Gosford Park 10/10, Viridiana 7.5/10, The Exterminating Angel 9/10, Seven Samurai 10/10, Rashomon 9/10, The Godfather: Part II 10/10, La Dolce Vita 10/10, The Princess Bride 9/10, Bringing Up Baby 7/10, City Lights 9/10, Baraka 7/10, Au revior les enfants 8/10, Bonnie And Clyde 6.5, Hiroshima mon amour 8/10, Lost In Translation 10/10, The Piano 8/10, La Strada 7/10, Safety Last! 10/10 Vivre sa vie 9/10, Band Of Outsiders 8/10, Diary Of A Country Priest 7/10, Mommie Dearest 8/10, Once Upon A Time In The West 10/10, L'Atalante 7/10, All About My Mother 7/10, Shoot The Piano Player 8/10, Faces 10/10, The Passion Of Joan Of Arc 10/10, The Wild Bunch 6/10, Harold And Maude see my review, Pink Flamingos 8/10, Heat 10/10, Raising Arizona 7/10, L'Avventura 2/10, Atlantic City 9/10, The Magic Flute 9/10, Cleo From 5 To 7 9/10, Down By Law 10/10, Hoop Dreams 10/10, 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her ¿8/10?, La jetée 9/10, Night Of The Living Dead 9/10, Cool Hand Luke 6/10, Pather Panchali 10/10, The Terminator 6/10, The Trial 10/10, Exit Through The Gift Shop 10/10, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance 7/10, The Phantom Carriage 10/10, Au Hasard Balthazar 3/10, The African Queen 10/10, My Night At Maud's 10/10, The Testament Of Dr. Mabuse 10/10, La Haine 10/10, The Pianist 7/10, Four Lions A-, Scream A+, Ali: Fear Eats The Soul B-, The Naked City 7/10, Floating Weeds 9/10, Daisies 8/10, Stray Dog 8/10, Victim 6/10, Man Bites Dog 9/10, Night and Fog 10/10, Weekend 8/10, Jubilee 10/10, Sans Soleil 10/10 (total: 110)

edit: it's been so long since I've seen some of these movies that I might as well have never seen them. Forgetting and forgetting and forgetting.

Magic Hate Ball fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Nov 3, 2016

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Magic Hate Ball posted:

6) Valerie and her Week of Wonders - magical realism

Visually memorable. You probably won't forget this one readily.



Demolition Man - Striving for a more perfect liberal society the mayor of San Angeles thaws Simon Phoenix (bad guy). John Spartan (good guy) is then thawed to bring Simon to justice as the modern police have become dainty, fragile and incapable of aggression. Spartan is regarded as a caveman by his future peers.

Denis Leary plays Edgar Friendly the unwashed, underground leader of the "deplorables" "scraps" going against the grain of the dominant society of doting, emasculated liberals. Doing his regular comedic shtick for the most part.

I was reminded a little of The Fifth Element, Minority Report, Star Trek and Zardoz.

The film features a lot of futuristic verbiage that seems authentic. And it was impressively comedic for the genre.


The film presciently predicts:

-iPads/tablets.
-Communication through cars.
-Autonomous cars.
-Video chatting.
-People fined/punished for words through technology.
-Increased language policing.
-Chipped people.


6.6 rating on IMDb.com? Shameful!



Netflix took a long time to send Demolition Man so I watched some others:


Communion - Christopher Walken plays a man plagued by unwanted alien visitations.

Every time he visits his log cabin he's haunted by bright lights, gray aliens and blue aliens. Usually they're little blue guys also called "little doctors" scurrying around wearing cloaks. They frequently give Walken's character anal probes etc. He eventually cracks from all the harassment and starts shooting at them with his shotgun. After this meltdown his wife decides he needs recall/hypnotherapy treatment.

Most of the alien scenes take on a triple strangeness as the paranormal and surreal are merged together. Kind of like the bug typewriters in Naked Lunch. It's even further amplified into the comedic realm when Walken's character unexpectedly makes friends with the aliens and kisses/caresses some of them. Then he high fives them :lol:.

A loving ode to extraterrestrials really subverts the genre and that's probably why this has a 5.7 rating on IMDb. I think more would've liked to see Walken stick a shotgun in the aliens faces and pull the trigger.


The Beach - Richard (Leonardo DiCaprio) wants a vacation to paradise but he's fed up when he finds Thailand to be filled with people watching TVs as in the US. Luckily he meets a guy with a map to a magical secret island that promises a true escape. He brings along two french travelers as well.

After a lot of swimming and a treacherous jump they land in paradise. They meet a multicultural cult led by Sal (Tilda Swinton) that appears to be functioning as a superficial utopia.

The film follows a familiar arc as the good turns to bad. What appears as paradise is really just another flimsy microsociety that dies with one mistake. Through a series of transgressions Richard ruins everything with his touristic blunders. He destroys his paradise through selfishness, bravado and lies that I won't detail. But he gets away with his crimes.

There's also some kind of tribute to delirium halfway through the film.

What stuck out were the visuals. Lots of unique camera shots and angles.


Procrastination (235 completed):

#209 The Hour of the Furnaces AKA La hora de los hornos - There are around a dozen films I've recommended ITT to someone that I haven't seen. This is one of them. 2/4/16

#229 Greed - I was futilely waiting for some hero to find the full original version somewhere but I'll throw in the towel at this juncture. 7/12/16

#237 Children of Heaven - Not to be confused with Children of Men. I'm very close to reconquering the IMDb top 250. This usually means a bunch of new films will enter the list shortly. 9/15/16

#239 The War of the Gargantuas - Election season 2016. 10/16/16

#240 The Idiots - Part two of a loose trilogy. 10/16/16

new #241 Skippy - Winner of the 1931 Academy Award for Best Director. 11/4/16

James Bond versus Godzilla (21/58 completed):

Destroy All Monsters - Godzilla film number nine. 9/29/16

Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture (37/39 completed):

1983 The Lonely Lady - Not to be confused with The Lonely Guy (1984). 8/9/16

Time for a new category. I finished Ebert's list a few years back so I'll try for this too.

Gene Siskel's Top Films 1969-1998 (20/30 completed):

new 1992 One False Move - Haven't heard anything about this. 11/4/16

new 1971 Claire's Knee - Another blind spot. 11/4/16

Zogo fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Nov 4, 2016

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