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greatn posted:It's not an S, it's a symbol. On my planet it means Superman. I have to imagine there's a porn parody of Man of Steel. "It's not an S, it's a symbol. On my planet it means sex machine." 
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RBA Starblade posted:He told humanity what the S means. It'll never happen, because Superman, but I wish I could see: - Superman: You know what this S stands for, Jimmy? - Jimmy Olsen: Wh - Superman: SHUT UP
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It's not an S, it's a number 5. It represents my love for Short Circuit.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That's not the real Nightmare Batman. 
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Violator posted:Probably only in hindsight can you realize you need this, but a quick montage of Batman catching his famous criminals would have been helpful for comic fans. Mirror Superman's heroic montage with one of Batman catching members of his rogue's gallery and showing them alive. But that's an entirely different narrative. Fans are trapped in this notion that Batman used to be good until now ("Make Batmerica Great Again!"), when the actual point is that Batman was never good. He was merely innocuous. Clark lives one city over and is barely even aware that Batman exists (didn't he die in an explosion a decade ago or something?) Killing is not bad for any moral or ethical reason. It is bad for Batman because it brings scrutiny - draws attention to the fact that he has never stood for any thing worth killing for.
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mastershakeman posted:I could watch a movie about naked 1984 Arnold walking around la all day but just instead I'll just have to make do with pumping iron You could maybe watch that "Going to the Store" animation on Youtube. *(probably not safe for work, though.)
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SMG have you seen Pumping Iron? If so what is your take? What is deeper that you can find outside it being one of the greatest American Stories of all time?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Man, I checked out of Transformers after the first movie and there is apparently a 5th one coming out soon. What exactly happened in the last 3 movies that ended up with time traveling Hitler, Magic being real, humans having sex with transformers, and racist talking dinosaurs? I'm happy and proud to say that I have no loving idea. Violator posted:Do the people know that or just the military? Like I don't think he's ever shown actually talking with large groups of civilians. He's spoken to Lois and the military (when forced). He told a famous reporter from pretty big metropolitan newspaper. I'd say it's safe to assume word got out.
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Unf.
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We gotta get a general Moviefight thread going. This is ridiculous.
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Die for Darkseid!
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Halloween Jack posted:Die for Darkseid! I liked how Scarecrow's mental image of Batman literally had bullshit spewing out of his mouth
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Oh poo poo, son
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SUBMISSION INVALIDATED: NON-MICHAEL MANN FILM DETECTED
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Oh we're doing this then? No we're using only Michael Mann films for comparison.
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Oh, that's from The Keep then, yes? My bad.
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Ferrinus posted:Important reminder: I prefer animé Batman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plkb0qZaM9U
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Fans are trapped in this notion that Batman used to be good until now ("Make Batmerica Great Again!"), when the actual point is that Batman was never good. Alternately, it's not a mistake that we are left wondering - wait, did he always kill people? Surely this happened after 9/11 right? up until then he was a good dude.
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DeimosRising posted:Alternately, it's not a mistake that we are left wondering - wait, did he always kill people? Surely this happened after 9/11 right? up until then he was a good dude. Well the original argument was that we should have seen a flashback to Batman's standard operating procedure from which he's deviated. That misses that the introductory scene, with him crawling across the ceiling, is the standard operating procedure. This is how he's always worked - bloodying criminals, brutal interrogation, terrifying onlookers, etc. The only thing new is the brand. That's the entire point of Alfred in the film. Alfred is the voice of 'commonsense', pushing for moderate behaviour, advocating for a normal life, and reminiscing about the way things used to be. And he's also explicitly wrong. Wayne must instead follow Superman.
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Instead of the closed fist, Wayne needs to follow the path of the snapped neck.
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Begins is my least favorite but it's got some spark.
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Batman Forever or bust. Completely dispensing with subtlety was a good move.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Begins is my least favorite but it's got some spark. Same. They're all fairly close, but those fear visions are solid. And it has the most amount of Cillian Murphy. Cythereal posted:Batman Forever or bust. Completely dispensing with subtlety was a good move. Forever suuuuucks. There's nothing subtle about Batman and Batman Returns and they're both amazing.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Well the original argument was that we should have seen a flashback to Batman's standard operating procedure from which he's deviated. That misses that the introductory scene, with him crawling across the ceiling, is the standard operating procedure. This is how he's always worked - bloodying criminals, brutal interrogation, terrifying onlookers, etc. The only thing new is the brand. Right, perhaps I was unclear. What I'm saying is the desire to see how Batman "used to be" is tied to the conviction that he, and by extension your Frank Millers and George Bushes and pseudo fascists in general, were good people doing their best until 9/11 "broke their brains". That's a fantasy though - like you've said, Batman always killed people, just some Batmans the audience ignored it, some they justified it, and some they willfully entered the fantasy that his methods could be nonlethal. In BvS super-9/11 is less a loss of innocence than a lifting of the veil, Vietnam style. Batman finally gets his excuse to give up.
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LesterGroans posted:Same. They're all fairly close, but those fear visions are solid. And it has the most amount of Cillian Murphy. I still don't know why they picked Scarecrow for Golden Boy Cillian Murphy. There's against type and there's that.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still don't know why they picked Scarecrow for Golden Boy Cillian Murphy. There's against type and there's that. Odd, odd choice. It works, but it's definitely a weird one.
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Karloff posted:None of you have put forth anything even slightly compelling to argue I'm wrong, none of you use the film as I have in any interesting fashion, To reiterate: the first scene opens the door to the question of Superman's attachment to Lois preventing him from being a real superhero. I'm not saying this is the only point of the scene, but for you to claim that the whole thing is superfluous is just stupid. Do you need me to show you a picture from the movie to prove that Supes got real mad when that warlord held Lois hostage? The intro to Batman shows us he's legitimately frightening even to people that he helps, that he's only fighting these criminals in order to further his own goals, that he comes off as a demon, that he's branding people, etc. It shows us that his methods are frightening and his motivations are suspicious. You complained that they messed up by choosing sex traffickers because then we're not going to sympathize with the criminals, but why would we need to sympathize with the criminals in order for this scene to work? It seems like you're repeatedly making very specific and strange assumptions about what a scene is trying to do in order to make it easier to act like it failed.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still don't know why they picked Scarecrow for Golden Boy Cillian Murphy. There's against type and there's that. Love his delivery in the treatment plant when he knows Batman is there. "He's here." "Who?" "The Batmannn."
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LesterGroans posted:Same. They're all fairly close, but those fear visions are solid. And it has the most amount of Cillian Murphy. It's me, I'm the guy who saw this twice when it was in theaters. Except for the popcorn machine you wore on your head, it's a great and fun movie that tries really hard and mostly succeeds. It's not what anyone would call a well-done film, but it's loving fun. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I still don't know why they picked Scarecrow for Golden Boy Cillian Murphy. There's against type and there's that. I think it was a good pick - it kind of aligned with Bruce, showing that a pretty boy could be a weirdo in disguise.
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Martman posted:You complained that they messed up by choosing sex traffickers because then we're not going to sympathize with the criminals, but why would we need to sympathize with the criminals in order for this scene to work? It seems like you're repeatedly making very specific and strange assumptions about what a scene is trying to do in order to make it easier to act like it failed. There's also an element that, if you believe people shouldn't be chained to radiators and tortured, either that applies to slavers as well or you don't really believe it.  
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What's this, Janosh in GB 2?
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No Kill Rule = In Heaven, Everything Is Fine
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Martman posted:You completely ignored my post about two of the few concrete points you tried to make. It seems like when you actually get called out on a specific, obviously wrong point, you kind of ignore it for a while and then a couple weeks later you'll just post the same claim again as if nothing happened. You have, more than once, ignored my responses to questions you have specifically asked me. Why do you expect me to behave in a way that is any different from yourself? SolidSnakesBandana posted:
Thank you
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