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Zephyrine posted:I've always wondered how a murder investigations would be handled in the libertarian utopia. Do you buy a special "in case of murder" insurance from the private police along with the standard coverage in case of crime? Well if no one is willing to pay for the investigation, then the market has demonstrated that it has no value. What would happen is that when someone dies, the people that assign value to the outcome of an investigation would pay for one to happen. That might be family or friends who derive utility from the information, or it might be that people in the community feel that too much crime is going unaddressed and are willing to pay to resolve a crime that doesn't directly affect them in an effort to curtail future crimes. See, this is actually optimal, because it also allows the public to directly indicate to the police what crimes they consider important by only funding the ones that they are concerned about.
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Also extermination of a parasite is to be celebrated, not condemned.
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Also, it lets you have a say if you think the police are investigating the wrong stuff, you can bid to have them work on other stuff instead!
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:And when there are major crises, you need extraordinary support. If all of your groups are local, they'll likely be affected and unable to help as effectively. I don't think the argument is that all orgs are local, but rather that there are more than one in any given area. There can still be a larger umbrella group. Don't like your government by State farm? Quit and send your money to AAA instead.
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Ashcans posted:Well if no one is willing to pay for the investigation, then the market has demonstrated that it has no value. What would happen is that when someone dies, the people that assign value to the outcome of an investigation would pay for one to happen. That might be family or friends who derive utility from the information, or it might be that people in the community feel that too much crime is going unaddressed and are willing to pay to resolve a crime that doesn't directly affect them in an effort to curtail future crimes. See, this is actually optimal, because it also allows the public to directly indicate to the police what crimes they consider important by only funding the ones that they are concerned about. If only there was a way to streamline the process of procurement, and funding to determine the value and priority. Perhaps try to average out the expenses that all these agencies can take it upon themselves to pay, and scale the surcharge according to the value potential of the citizen! 
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Panfilo posted:the value potential of the citizen! What units would you propose this value potential be measured in?
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Scruff McGruff posted:It's always fun to re-read the New Yorker's "Libertarian Police Department" satire. Everybody loves "Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag®!”" and that's a great line no doubt, but my personal favorite is "Nobody move unless you want to!"
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drat, I didn't even realize we both posted the same link!
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I want someone more talented than me to make a parody of Willy Wonka meme I've seen that says (top) "Don't want to get shot by the police?" (bottom) "Have you tried not breaking the law?" but instead say (top) "Don't like people protesting the police?" (bottom) "Have you tried not executing black people?"
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Faustian Bargain posted:I want someone more talented than me to make a parody of Willy Wonka meme I've seen that says (top) "Don't want to get shot by the police?" (bottom) "Have you tried not breaking the law?" but instead say (top) "Don't like people protesting the police?" (bottom) "Have you tried not executing black people?" You don't really need talent, there are meme generators all over the place.
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Subjunctive posted:What units would you propose this value potential be measured in? Libertarian-Socialist: Labor hours and contracts with other Free Workers. Anarcho-Capitalist: Dollars. But not central bank dollars. Everyone can make their own dollars. And decide on the value of everyone else's dollars. Technotarian: Bitcoin. 
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Wow that is a tough one to call... I honestly have no idea
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Sep 23, 2016 22:24
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 Is there an exception to the rule that conservatives will demonize an unarmed black man who's been shot? Every. loving. Time.
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He was no angel.
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TerminalSaint posted:He was no angel. Which is why they had to send him to heaven.
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Did they ever test the officer? She has a history of drug abuse and violent behavior.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Did they ever test the officer? She has a history of drug abuse and violent behavior. Hey now, you can't demonize someone for dumb mistakes they made when they were younger.
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the_steve posted:Hey now, you can't demonize someone for dumb mistakes they made when they were younger.  Except if they are black with a presumed childhood of thuggery!
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Did they ever test the officer? She has a history of drug abuse and violent behavior. Paper bag test.
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Guavanaut posted:Libertarian: Purestrain Gold. Look at this scrub. Obviously Libertarians measure people's worth based on their time preference. It's just interesting how black people always have such low time preference, which is why they're better suited to *wet fart*
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That's not Jesus. Jesus was black.
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totalnewbie posted:The Simpsons had this exact scene. What episode/scene??
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Samuel Clemens posted:That's not Jesus. Jesus was black. 
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I saw that maniac in Temple the other day, what a worthless looney! He was flipping over tables, screaming at clerks and customers, scaring children, you name it. I hope the authorities take care of that thug.
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I'll have what he's having.
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JVNO posted:What episode/scene?? New Simpsons.
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sweart gliwere posted:I saw that maniac in Temple the other day, what a worthless looney! He was flipping over tables, screaming at clerks and customers, scaring children, you name it. I hope the authorities take care of that thug. I'm pretty sure it was his apprentice that did that.
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oneforthevine posted:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKmWuqvgYLJ/ Gustav posted:Wow that is a tough one to call... I honestly have no idea I think he didn't get the joke until I asked him if he was serious, because he deleted the post right after.
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Judas was the first One Of The Good Ones
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JVNO posted:What episode/scene?? Sorry, it was Family Guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_-w_T-t8aM
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Refind Chaos posted:Seems I had the cost of labor incorrect, likely had them messed up in my head. Looks like for agriculture somewhere between 17 and 44 percent my bad, but that still means the images information is dumb. Well, yeah, I was never in doubt that the image was bullshit, I was just interested in knowing what the actual figures were. Thanks!
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pillsburysoldier posted:That's young Obi-Wan Er, yes, we all realized that a while ago.
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Sep 24, 2016 06:46
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That sorta looks like Ewan McGregor.
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The former doesn't work without a credible threat of the continuation of the latter, ever.
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Stato-Masochist posted:Well, yeah, I was never in doubt that the image was bullshit, I was just interested in knowing what the actual figures were. Thanks! Yeah, I assumed that, which is why I responded. I want to ensure that information that I'm disseminating is in fact correct cuz gently caress that's why we read this thread isn't it?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:That sorta looks like Ewan McGregor. It's a Star Wars meme some dipshit reposted as a Christianity meme.  I'm getting real sick of modern phone autocorrect insisting on correcting real words to nonsense and thinking typos are real words.
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