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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

SwissCM posted:

Stuff works okay, it's interesting that WIndows 10 is causing me more issues nowadays than my linux stuff does.

We have a stick PC with Windows 10 Home that as shipped, on first boot, couldn't install windows updates because it didn't have enough free disk space. 32 GB disk and a fair bit of it free, but something about how windows cumulative updates works requires a lot of disk space if you get too far behind. We managed to work around that, but yeah.

In actual obsolete tech, this thread somehow inspired me to buy the components for a simple tube headphone amp, as a teach-myself-soldering project. Tubes are superior for this in exactly two ways: They look cool, and the operating principle is nifty in a "science toy" kind of way.

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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Jerry Cotton posted:

Uhh I think you'll find Mac is a linux.

actually it's a unix

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Linux Chat : I've ran Linux Mint on my laptop for years, that I use solely for a media machine and it was fine. It just gets finnicky if you want to do more than that and you don't have a good grasp of terminal.

$sudo apt-getsuicide

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Uncle at Nintendo posted:

You'll like this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_96wWKzkp4s

I remember rushing to my Toys R Us when A Link to the Past came out in 1991 and the tags were all gone for Zelda :(

I kept arguing with my dad "maybe someone just pulled out all the tags, it doesn't mean they're all sold out!!"

I remember when video games used to be sold like that, but I can't remember actually buying one that way.

By the time I was old enough to buy video games on my own (during the PS1 era), Toys R Us let you pull your own games off the shelf and bring it to the R Zone counter, where the cashier would take it out of that huge anti-theft casing.

doctorfrog posted:

Looking at those prices, yeesh. What's the complete opposite of feeling bad for downloading every ROM today you could never have as a kid?

I'm sure there's a German word for it. There's a German word for pretty much everything.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Well yeah, your laptop is really old so linux is able to handle it. Try to put linux on a brand new laptop with all the latest technology and you probably can't even get the live environment to work.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Cojawfee posted:

Well yeah, your laptop is really old so linux is able to handle it. Try to put linux on a brand new laptop with all the latest technology and you probably can't even get the live environment to work.

poo poo, better tell all my coworkers that all those laptops they've been buying new & installing Linux on have, for years, not actually been working. Productivity is gonna take a massive retroactive hit.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



I can't think of a reason why I'd want to put linux on any of my PCs -- at least not now. The last distro I ran with any regularity was Fedora Core 4.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
I've run Mint 17.3 as my main OS for the past year. I started using it for the better debugging features of the Linux version of Nvidia's CUDA. It's quite a bit nicer than the Windows Visual Studio equivalent.
Everything works and I use it for development, media, and as media server. I do have to boot into Win10 on occasion to use WebEX for web meetings.
Other than that, I just have no need to boot into Windows. I never thought I'd find myself there, but everything I need works well and is stable.

But I admit, if it hadn't been for my obscure development requirements (preferences, really), I wouldn't have bothered.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I'd almost forgotten that Fedora used to be a household word among nerds for totally different reasons.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Data Graham posted:

I'd almost forgotten that Fedora used to be a household word among nerds for totally different reasons.

You ever wonder if the two are corelated?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I'd be tempted to make that connection, except the logo is an actual fedora and not a trilby. :iamafag:

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Like most of the people that wear them care.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Computer viking posted:

In actual obsolete tech, this thread somehow inspired me to buy the components for a simple tube headphone amp, as a teach-myself-soldering project. Tubes are superior for this in exactly two ways: They look cool, and the operating principle is nifty in a "science toy" kind of way.

Can you post more about this, like where you buy the components etc? It sounds really cool. Also I'd like to hear more about tube amps. They look amazing but they're expensive as all hell, are they just an audiophile thing?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Data Graham posted:

I'd be tempted to make that connection, except the logo is an actual fedora and not a trilby. :iamafag:

Don't touch the poop.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Tubesock Holocaust posted:

I can't think of a reason why I'd want to put linux on any of my PCs -- at least not now. The last distro I ran with any regularity was Fedora Core 4.

Fedora isn't going to give you a great impression of Linux, they like to stick to the bleeding edge so there's a lot of blood. I don't like to spend all my time fighting with the OS so I use CentOS Linux. It's probably not great with the latest hardware though.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Alan_Shore posted:

Can you post more about this, like where you buy the components etc? It sounds really cool. Also I'd like to hear more about tube amps. They look amazing but they're expensive as all hell, are they just an audiophile thing?

This looks like a good guide to building including part numbers and where to source:

http://diyaudioprojects.com/Solid/12AU7-IRF510-LM317-Headamp/

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Nerds in a tech thread bitching about Linux is like nerds in a card games thread bitching about Yu-Gi-Oh.

Let's just end this dork-on-dork hate once and for all, guys.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


thathonkey posted:

linux is really awesome and useful and all but if you use it for personal computing youre just kind of a weird loser imho

While netbooks were popular it was pretty common to find netbooks available in either Windows or Linux, with the linux version being a little cheaper. I had an older HP netbook and XP just kept bluescreening. I ended up running some linux distro on it and it worked fine. The point of this story is that I make poor technology choices.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Grand Prize Winner posted:

While netbooks were popular it was pretty common to find netbooks available in either Windows or Linux, with the linux version being a little cheaper. I had an older HP netbook and XP just kept bluescreening. I ended up running some linux distro on it and it worked fine. The point of this story is that I make poor technology choices.

When the first eeePC came out and I was working at a computer/electronics store the amount of people coming in to try and get their cheap computer run windows was too often.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Computer viking posted:

It's got a lump of BSD kernel code (mostly FreeBSD, now) grafted onto a Mach microkernel, with a userland that's a weird mix of BSD stuff and Apple in-house projects, with a strong NextStep inheritance. No Linux kernel code in there, though they've grabbed some GNU userland tools.

OSX uses the inferior BSD versions of unix tools like sed, grep and awk.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Humphreys posted:

When the first eeePC came out and I was working at a computer/electronics store the amount of people coming in to try and get their cheap computer run windows was too often.

I got my eeePC from a post GFC government stimulus package payment in 2009 (Thanks for the $900 gub'ment!) and first thing I did was install Ubuntu on it. It was great. I think I've still got it around somewhere, and if the fan wasn't heinously noisy I'd probably still use it.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Carth Dookie posted:

I got my eeePC from a post GFC government stimulus package payment in 2009 (Thanks for the $900 gub'ment!) and first thing I did was install Ubuntu on it. It was great. I think I've still got it around somewhere, and if the fan wasn't heinously noisy I'd probably still use it.

Are you Australian? I ask cos we got what we called 'Ruddy Money' named after Kevin Rudd, PM. And it was a similar amount.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6XjO5-TOAw

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

C.

I never heard of it being called "Ruddy money" though.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Carth Dookie posted:

C.

I never heard of it being called "Ruddy money" though.

Must be a QLD thing. And bring on the QLDers are retarded posts haah.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer

Carth Dookie posted:

I got my eeePC from a post GFC government stimulus package payment in 2009 (Thanks for the $900 gub'ment!) and first thing I did was install Ubuntu on it. It was great. I think I've still got it around somewhere, and if the fan wasn't heinously noisy I'd probably still use it.

I had an old eeepc I bought from some lady of of Craig's list and I put Ubuntu on it used it for years. I'd throw that thing in my tool box, take it to class, traveling, etc. All I needed it to do was read pdfs for manuals and check email and take notes. Finally ended up stepping I b the screen and didn't feel like replacing it.

Wish I still had that crazy thing

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

thathonkey posted:

actually it's a unix

That's what I said, it's a linux :confused:

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Humphreys posted:

This looks like a good guide to building including part numbers and where to source:

http://diyaudioprojects.com/Solid/12AU7-IRF510-LM317-Headamp/

That's exactly what I'm looking at, yeah. :)
It's kind of cheating compared to an all-tube high-voltage setup, but I'm not too bothered by that.

I bought my parts from Elfa ( http://elfadistrelec.no ), but that's more about them having free shipping to Norway than anything else.

I did just get everything, split over three cardboard boxes, so I'm currently thinking about some practical details. I'm building it on perfboard, which works fine for most of the parts. I need to figure out what I'm doing with the tube socket, though. I also accidentally got headphone sockets that don't fit on it, but I'll just leave them dangling for now.

I also need to figure out the best place to work, this isn't a very large apartment. I'm thinking of using a steel plate (off an old pc tower) as a work surface and sitting under the extractor fan in the kitchen. (I don't know how picky the fire alarm is and I can't disable it, so I'd rather be paranoid.)

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I installed four different upantos on a Samsung Very Small Portable Computer (I think that's the name of the model but I'm not 100% certain) that my brother was throwing away because it came with Windows 7 but couldn't actually run it properly. With three I got sound but no wifi, with the last one I got both but it would only boot off the HDD once. I would've done LFS but all I wanted was a light-weight small system to look up Gamefaqs on if I got stuck in a computer game in the living room, and getting up and walking to the study is still less work than that and good for my back :shrug:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

I also need to figure out the best place to work, this isn't a very large apartment. I'm thinking of using a steel plate (off an old pc tower) as a work surface and sitting under the extractor fan in the kitchen. (I don't know how picky the fire alarm is and I can't disable it, so I'd rather be paranoid.)

I feel ya man, before the divorce I had a 3 storey house but barely any space for my projects. Now I'm by myself I have a shittier house but so "much room for activities".

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Humphreys posted:

Are you Australian? I ask cos we got what we called 'Ruddy Money' named after Kevin Rudd, PM. And it was a similar amount.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6XjO5-TOAw

South Australia, but I often heard it referred to as 'Rudd Bucks'.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

Jerry Cotton posted:

That's what I said, it's a linux :confused:

Linux isn't the same as Unix. It's a clone, inspired by Unix but it doesn't actually have any of the Unix kernel in it. OSX is derived from Unix, not Linux.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

1000 Brown M and Ms posted:

Linux isn't the same as Unix. It's a clone, inspired by Unix but it doesn't actually have any of the Unix kernel in it. OSX is derived from Unix, not Linux.

That's just SCO propaganda. Linux Torvalds invented Unix which is a linux everyone knows that :rolleyes:

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Linux Is Not UniX

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

axolotl farmer posted:

OSX uses the inferior BSD versions of unix tools like sed, grep and awk.

After they switched us all to Macbooks at work, the discovery of the homebrew utilities was a life saver.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Jerry Cotton posted:

That's just SCO propaganda. Linux Torvalds invented Unix which is a linux everyone knows that :rolleyes:

Novell will rise again

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Buttcoin purse posted:

Fedora isn't going to give you a great impression of Linux, they like to stick to the bleeding edge so there's a lot of blood. I don't like to spend all my time fighting with the OS so I use CentOS Linux. It's probably not great with the latest hardware though.

I switched over to Ubuntu shortly after, but I eventually quit using Linux altogether. :(

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
You may think the first eee was crap, but just consider: it ran Unreal Tournament 99 GOTY on XP at a smooth 50+ fps without any config screwery. Sure the resolution was low (800x480?) but it was fun to do anyway. It was great for that, diablo 2, webdev stuff, and all kinds of other light-use things. Hell, they even had (admittedly small) SSDs standard before they were even an option most brands

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



The whole "Linux isn't ready for the desktop" trope being repeated in this thread is definitely a tech relic.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Sorry, but it will never be the year of the desktop.

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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Cojawfee posted:

Sorry, but it will never be the year of the desktop.

Yes, we are stuck in the year 2004 forever.

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