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denzelcurrypower
Jan 28, 2011

Even the T series? Got a suggestion for any alternatives?

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ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

Ornithology posted:

Even the T series? Got a suggestion for any alternatives?

With regard to an alternative, what about the T-series is attractive to you?

denzelcurrypower
Jan 28, 2011

ItBurns posted:

With regard to an alternative, what about the T-series is attractive to you?

See my post at the end of the last page. But in short, I want a laptop with good CPU, integrated graphics, that is also constructed with decently solid materials and a keyboard that feels like a keyboard instead of crappy separated buttons. My current T510 is 6-7 years old and has been dropped at least 4 or 5 times, and its only now going to be retired due to a fan error.


vvv Thanks for the tip, the Dell Workstations look solid and seem to have more modern features than Lenovo products while being cheaper.

denzelcurrypower fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Sep 22, 2016

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Ornithology posted:

Even the T series? Got a suggestion for any alternatives?

The Dell Latitude line isn't as durable or bulky, but they're solid workhorse business class laptops.

However, these days you'll want a workstation computer, not a business class ultrabook. if you want lots of RAM and a powerful CPU, you'll want to look into workstation offerings that do not have a -U suffix. A u suffix indicates that it's an ultra low power CPU; they're invariably dual core, with low clocks and TDP. They're quite good, but fairly lacklustre in terms of performance.

Similarly, it's rare you'll have an option for more than 8 gigs of RAM, though some give options for 16 gigs. Whether that's sufficient for your needs is, of course, up to you.

Look for workstation models without dGPUs, that'll get you the powerful CPU you're looking at.

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

Ornithology posted:

See my post at the end of the last page. But in short, I want a laptop with good specs that is also constructed with decently solid materials and a keyboard that feels like a keyboard instead of crappy separated buttons. My current T510 is 6-7 years old and has been dropped at least 4 or 5 times, and its only now going to be retired due to a fan error.

To avoid repeating the post above, I'll just say that the Latitude line is good. They even have the 8-track analogous eraser mouse that dads love on some models despite that feature being obsoleted by Actually Good TrackpadsTM.

Dell's XPS line is good and the 15's have all of the work-stationy specs you might need. HP makes decent business machines and they're increasingly ubiquitous in places that used to have Thinkpads until they became harmful.

Maguoob
Dec 26, 2012
I wonder; is $699 for the 128GB / Intel i5 - 4GB RAM Surface Pro 4 even really worth it? It is currently $300 off in the edu part of the Microsoft store, but aren't they due to announce a refresh next month anyways for the Surface Pro/Book line?

sarehu
Apr 20, 2007

(call/cc call/cc)

Ornithology posted:

Are Lenovo's still the go-to for solid built, powerful laptops? I have a T510 from about 6-7 years ago and I was really impressed with the build quality, but unfortunately it just died (fan error). Here's my main priorities, if anyone can suggest something I'd really appreciate it:

The keyboard is still the best in the biz. You're looking for a T460p or P50 if you go the Thinkpad route. I'd pick one of those if I were buying a PC today, though to be fair I haven't really looked at a Dell option. HP's top-tier line has bad keyboards (unless current-gen fixed that), but Dell's are OK.

Ornithology posted:

By the way, I took my T510 in for repairs for the fan error and the repair guy removed the fan, cleaned and lubricated it, but the error persists. He said it spins OK and doesn't look like its broken but guesses that MAYBE replacing it with a new fan would fix the issue. Otherwise it's probably a sensor on the motherboard and isn't worth replacing. Anyone have suggestions? I'm not sure if it's worth the gamble or not.

Worth the gamble if $20. Fan errors are so common across many generations of Thinkpad -- which wouldn't make sense if it was always the motherboard, and not the spinny part.

denzelcurrypower
Jan 28, 2011

sarehu posted:

The keyboard is still the best in the biz. You're looking for a T460p or P50 if you go the Thinkpad route. I'd pick one of those if I were buying a PC today, though to be fair I haven't really looked at a Dell option. HP's top-tier line has bad keyboards (unless current-gen fixed that), but Dell's are OK.


Worth the gamble if $20. Fan errors are so common across many generations of Thinkpad -- which wouldn't make sense if it was always the motherboard, and not the spinny part.

Thanks for the info. The Dell Precision models looks really nice but they're crazy expensive and have nice graphics cards which I don't really need.

The fan is $20 but the guy is charging $75 to replace it. Seems pretty reasonable considering he told me it would be $75 to remove and clean the existing fan, but after that didn't solve the issue he didn't charge me. Gonna give it a shot before spending 20 times that on a laptop.

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

Ornithology posted:

Thanks for the info. The Dell Precision models looks really nice but they're crazy expensive and have nice graphics cards which I don't really need.

The fan is $20 but the guy is charging $75 to replace it. Seems pretty reasonable considering he told me it would be $75 to remove and clean the existing fan, but after that didn't solve the issue he didn't charge me. Gonna give it a shot before spending 20 times that on a laptop.

Have you considered throwing some SSDs on that bitch?

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib

ItBurns posted:

Have you considered throwing some SSDs on that bitch?

This a thousand times. An SSD has made several of my 10 year old Laptops actually usable for web surfing, Office, and general use. Spend the $160 on a 500GB 850Evo, and bob's your uncle.

sarehu
Apr 20, 2007

(call/cc call/cc)
Oh god, a T510 means it's dual core!

An SSD is sensible and who says Ornithology doesn't have one? But you're still talking about a dual core 1st gen Core processor, you can do a lot better than that.

hotsauce
Jan 14, 2007
I just replaced my keyboard in my 13" XPS infinity.

Holy poo poo, do NOT recommend this. You literally have to take the entire laptop apart, down to the bare chassis to change the keyboard.

Lenovo got this one right.

2 hours and somehow I didn't have any extra screws leftover. NIghtmare.

denzelcurrypower
Jan 28, 2011

ItBurns posted:

Have you considered throwing some SSDs on that bitch?

I've got an SSD on it already. It really is a perfectly good laptop still, the main reason I'm considering a need to replace it is the fan issue. It also has some other issues on the motherboard: broken headphone/microphone jacks and usb ports.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Ornithology posted:

I've got an SSD on it already. It really is a perfectly good laptop still, the main reason I'm considering a need to replace it is the fan issue. It also has some other issues on the motherboard: broken headphone/microphone jacks and usb ports.

I'm calling "hoarder" at this point. Holy poo poo just get a chrome book if the only functional parts you need are a portable screen and keyboard.

denzelcurrypower
Jan 28, 2011

Ynglaur posted:

I'm calling "hoarder" at this point. Holy poo poo just get a chrome book if the only functional parts you need are a portable screen and keyboard.

Honestly it still runs a lot better than many of my classmates' brand new laptops that cost nearly 2 grand. That's why I've been holding off in picking up a new laptop! Just look at the people telling me Lenovo doesn't make quality products anymore. Anyway, I'd like to get something new for sure but im a poor student and just had to buy a new cell phone due to my Nexus 5 dying.

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007

Ornithology posted:

I've got an SSD on it already. It really is a perfectly good laptop still, the main reason I'm considering a need to replace it is the fan issue. It also has some other issues on the motherboard: broken headphone/microphone jacks and usb ports.

The SSD thing was a joke.

I will echo the advice that maybe you shouldn't spend $95 on a seven year old laptop, but you won't find a laptop with a premium keyboard and lots of CPU and RAM for programming (that still doesn't warrant a three-figure budget) any time soon, so your options seem limited.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Ornithology posted:

By the way, I took my T510 in for repairs for the fan error and the repair guy removed the fan, cleaned and lubricated it, but the error persists. He said it spins OK and doesn't look like its broken but guesses that MAYBE replacing it with a new fan would fix the issue. Otherwise it's probably a sensor on the motherboard and isn't worth replacing. Anyone have suggestions? I'm not sure if it's worth the gamble or not.

You can get all new guts for that laptop for under a hundred bucks on eBay, your repair guy is a moron

I would look at at least a T530, probably a T550 refurbished. If you want to go new I'd look at the XPS15.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Ornithology posted:

Are Lenovo's still the go-to for solid built, powerful laptops?

Despite the claims to the contrary above, the T/X Thinkpads still are, Lenovo are mostly confusing the matter by making a lot of crap, including putting the Thinkpad brand on some rather cheap and flimsy things. The T's really are fine still though.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Hadlock posted:

I would look at at least a T530, probably a T550 refurbished. If you want to go new I'd look at the XPS15.
You could get a T530 for $300 easily on eBay or something. The trick is finding one with a 1080p screen and not 1366x768

To Vex a Stranger
Mar 15, 2004
Rawr!
My sister is looking for a laptop that has quiet fans and can be used with Audacity audio recording/editing software. Browsing/netflix/document editing as well. She's looking for something sub $500. I know the last time OP was updated that's below the sweet spot for budgets, but does anyone have any suggestions for something that can run that software and doesn't break the bank? She's an aspiring voice actress and needs there to be minimal audio distortion so I'm sure she has some external audio devices. Thanks!

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Maguoob posted:

I wonder; is $699 for the 128GB / Intel i5 - 4GB RAM Surface Pro 4 even really worth it? It is currently $300 off in the edu part of the Microsoft store, but aren't they due to announce a refresh next month anyways for the Surface Pro/Book line?

No. you still have to drop ~100 for the keyboard and it's still awkward as hell to use in your lap. The screen is really nice and.....yeah that's it.

Krime
Jul 30, 2003

Somebody has to do the scoring around here.
I was given a barely used Dell Inspiron (15z - 5523) Ultrabook for free... it's running Windows 8 with a i7-3537U.

What's the best route to do a fresh, clean install of Windows 10 and wipe everything data-wise from it?

Krime fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Sep 24, 2016

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.

Krime posted:

I was given a barely used Dell Inspiron (15z - 5523) Ultrabook for free... it's running Windows 8 with a i7-3537U.

What's the best route to do a fresh, clean install of Windows 10 and wipe everything data-wise from it?

1) Make sure you have a Win10 license key.

2) Download drivers for your device from the Dell website and put them on an external storage device.

3) Create a bootable Windows 10 USB stick with Media Creation Tool.

4) Boot from that USB stick.

5) Follow the instructions.

6) Install Drivers onto newly installed Windows.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Can you still upgrade to Win 10 for free or do you have to buy it now?

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Bob Morales posted:

Can you still upgrade to Win 10 for free or do you have to buy it now?

In principle costs money, but is free to people who use assistive technologies, and as you look like a chap who enjoys a bit of screen magnification at times: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Butt Savage
Aug 23, 2007
Has anyone here ever purchased a replacement battery for their T-series Lenovos from Amazon and been happy with thier purchase?
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-0a36303-Thinkpad-Extended-Compatible/dp/B0085MPGDG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

The reviews are a mixed bag, with some people getting great batteries that appear to be genuine OEM, some seem to have gotten fakes that die right after the 30-day warranty, and others just get faulty ones right off the bat. I also checked Lenovo's website to see their prices and they're pretty loving expensive. And on top of that the reviews on their website aren't good for the 9 cells, with reviewers claiming the batteries lose most of their capacity after a year. That's a pretty lovely deal considering how much they cost.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

i expect the oem batteries are fine, one of those selection problems: who writes a review of an expensive battery for any reason other than if it disappoints? 1-2 star reviews is what one should expect

no idea on off-brand batteries though, that always seems a murky field with a lot of shoddy stuff, but the price differences are huge enough that it is hard to ignore

Krime
Jul 30, 2003

Somebody has to do the scoring around here.

Honj Steak posted:

1) Make sure you have a Win10 license key.

2) Download drivers for your device from the Dell website and put them on an external storage device.

3) Create a bootable Windows 10 USB stick with Media Creation Tool.

4) Boot from that USB stick.

5) Follow the instructions.

6) Install Drivers onto newly installed Windows.

Thanks for the rundown. Was pretty sure about all but the drivers.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Butt Savage posted:

Has anyone here ever purchased a replacement battery for their T-series Lenovos from Amazon and been happy with thier purchase?
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-0a36303-Thinkpad-Extended-Compatible/dp/B0085MPGDG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

The reviews are a mixed bag, with some people getting great batteries that appear to be genuine OEM, some seem to have gotten fakes that die right after the 30-day warranty, and others just get faulty ones right off the bat. I also checked Lenovo's website to see their prices and they're pretty loving expensive. And on top of that the reviews on their website aren't good for the 9 cells, with reviewers claiming the batteries lose most of their capacity after a year. That's a pretty lovely deal considering how much they cost.

I bought an Anker replacement for my T420 and it's been fine.

Butt Savage
Aug 23, 2007

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

i expect the oem batteries are fine, one of those selection problems: who writes a review of an expensive battery for any reason other than if it disappoints? 1-2 star reviews is what one should expect

no idea on off-brand batteries though, that always seems a murky field with a lot of shoddy stuff, but the price differences are huge enough that it is hard to ignore

Yeah I'm gonna buy from one of the sellers that got good mentions in the review and see how it goes. I'll keep you guys posted.


Rexxed posted:

I bought an Anker replacement for my T420 and it's been fine.

You got me excited for a bit, but turns out they can't make T430 batteries because of a security chip thing newer Lenovos use. I would have totally bought an Anker battery otherwise. :( Doesn't matter anyway since I want a 9 cell and they only seem to offer 6.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Anytime I've looked at Alienware in the past they've always been horribly priced, but the pricing on the new Pascal 15" is actually pretty close to similarly-species machines from Asus and Sager. I rarely like blingy laptops but I actually like the pictures other than that stupid logo.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:
Fwiw, I got an Alienware 13 on sale and it actually looked better in person than photos.

I also returned it shortly after because the keyboard stopped working, but aesthetically it was a pleasant surprise.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

foutre posted:

Fwiw, I got an Alienware 13 on sale and it actually looked better in person than photos.

I also returned it shortly after because the keyboard stopped working, but aesthetically it was a pleasant surprise.

Does the logo stick out from the surface? Could it be hidden with a laptop skin?

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



I would say the logo on the lid is just a little inset. You could easily cover it and the panel lines on the back, and disable light effects. You would never know those were there. Unfortunately the other alien head logo is the power button.

Eletriarnation
Apr 6, 2005

People don't appreciate the substance of things...
objects in space.


Oven Wrangler

drat IM HUNGRY posted:

Hello. Don't laugh at me but I'm skint and don't have a ton of money but need a new laptop - I just need it for working and occasionally playing The Sims 4/WoW on lowish settings (I know). Price range is ideally under or around £300, thank you for your help~

I recently upgraded from a Latitude E6320 with HD 4000 (i5-3320M) and it ran WoW playably when set to 720p 3/10 detail for soloing, but I wouldn't want to raid on it.

The Latitude E7270 with HD 520 (i5-6200U) that I upgraded to is smoother (but noticeably not a steady 60Hz like my desktop) at 1080p 3/10 detail. It's alright for groups. I probably still wouldn't want to raid on it, but if you want a laptop that costs $300 and plays WoW you'll either be getting something huge that's a few generations old to be able to afford a dedicated GPU or you'll probably have to compromise a bit. I would bet that you can get at least a Haswell, maybe Broadwell machine for that much without getting something too massive if you get it used. You might have to settle for a 720p screen and HDD though.

Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Sep 25, 2016

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

Poniard posted:

I would say the logo on the lid is just a little inset. You could easily cover it and the panel lines on the back, and disable light effects. You would never know those were there. Unfortunately the other alien head logo is the power button.

Yeah, I looked at that as well and it doesn't fit perfectly under a laptop skin cause it's a bit of an odd shape but it seemed like it would fit well enough.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Any quick and dirty suggestions for a laptop, preferably under $500? Use case is general web browsing, media consumption, light gaming - stuff I could play on a commute. Looking to replace an ailing tablet.

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Fiance is starting a new job and wants a new laptop. Criteria are: cheap, able to use Microsoft Office, ease of portability, multitab web browsing, and maybe Netflix. She was thinking Chromebook, but needs to be able to use Office. Thoughts?

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Spiritus Nox posted:

Any quick and dirty suggestions for a laptop, preferably under $500? Use case is general web browsing, media consumption, light gaming - stuff I could play on a commute. Looking to replace an ailing tablet.

Quick & dirty? Check the OP. Thinkpads, Dells, etc. I usually mention refurbs from Amazon & Woot. There's really nothing special to recommend at around $500 or less; everything you're going to find is going to be older/used or new laptops sold at a price point (so they're usually heavily compromised in areas like the display or with HDDs instead of SSDs.) You're also going to have to deal with integrated graphics, so that'll limit the little gaming you'll be able to do.

10 Beers posted:

Fiance is starting a new job and wants a new laptop. Criteria are: cheap, able to use Microsoft Office, ease of portability, multitab web browsing, and maybe Netflix. She was thinking Chromebook, but needs to be able to use Office. Thoughts?

You can get a Chromebook and use office.com. Other than that, if you really want a Windows device check my reply above.

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I've been having a hell of a weekend trying to replace my laptop charger that just melted. It's for a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 laptop. I went to Best Buy on Saturday, was recommended a 65W universal adapter, which I bought for $58. Didn't have the right end to it. My mom decided to order me a similar adapter for my inspiron for $22 while I sent the first purchase back. That was also 65W. Turns out my laptop today is used to 130W and cannot charge with this new charger. Now I don't know where and what I should buy for a new adapter because none of the Dell 130W adapters specifically mention my exact model. What should I do, and where should I look? I ran BIOS and the problem still remains.

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