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Zore posted:Why do we need a special False Swipe? So more pokemon have access to it so you the player have an easier time to get it on something worth using. You absolutely do use it to do damage, you just don't use it to kill.
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Sep 24, 2016 18:15
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it really shouldn't matter which attack stat it runs off.
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I run False Swipe on Farfetch'd with Swordsdance, Foresight, and I forget the fourth. Fly I think, because I needed the HM slave.
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Sep 24, 2016 18:30
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Zore posted:Why do we need a special False Swipe? I don't think we "need" one, but using false swipe to catch Mewtwo with pressure and barrier was a gotdamn pain
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Sep 24, 2016 18:45
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Chill Penguin posted:In addition to a physical HP, we also need a special False Swipe. When can we expect that, Mabel? Hold Back would have been a perfect opportunity for a special False Swipe, but no, also physical 
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Zore posted:Why do we need a special False Swipe? Because I want to use my Butterfree for item finding AND catching.
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For people asking about getting into competitive play, this is a really neat video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PncY7iZb1c It's a multi-battle with 4 players, so it's not exactly representative of the VGC metagame (of course it changes year to year anyway) but it has two players talking to each other about every play. The team is Aaron "Cybertron" Zheng and Barry "Baz" Anderson vs this year's world champion Wolfe Glick and his teammate Markus Stadter. There should be a link to the other team's stream but despite being an excellent player and team builder, Wolfe isn't much of a live commentator. And this isn't the best showcase for team building but I really like Baz's style. He tends to use faster/less defensive pokemon than the standard "bulky offense" pokemon that players like Aaron Zheng tend to favor, and Baz tends to play more aggressively and use more disruptive tactics than most players. I beat him in a nugget bridge tournament once, and he's definitely a better player than I am, but he's probably the worlds calibur player who's playstyle is closest to mine. In contrast, Wolfe tends to play much more defensively and often incorporates stall tactics. His teams tend to be eccentric and he's big on combo play. He's a cool guy and I'm glad he finally won a world championship. Ruggington posted:I will not rest until there is a physical hidden power(gsc and adv don't count) http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Natural_Gift_(move)
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I keep assorted odd job Pokémon in a separate box, including but not limited to: a Gallade for catching (bred for roamers), a Bibarel and Tropius as HM mules, a Talonflame for hatching eggs, a Nincada who's only purpose is to faint and have compoundeyes, a Noivern to frisk and steal items, a legion of Meowths to pick up items, and several Combee to farm honey. That's to say nothing of my collection of Ralts and Kirlia with synchronize.
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Sep 24, 2016 20:07
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this isn't the time for jokes
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Ruggington posted:this isn't the time for jokes Natural Gift makes more sense in shorter matches, such as, 3v3 singles,
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Bongo Bill posted:Natural Gift makes more sense in shorter matches, such as, 3v3 singles, I wasn't really aware of the move until someone used it in gen 5 VGC on their scizor as a way to counter other scizors (scissors?) cheetah7071 posted:What niche is this team missing that I should fill with the sixth slot (aiming at battle spot, not showdown): If you're doing battlespot singles, I've heard mega-chomp + tyranitar + tailwind is a good combo. I never play battlespot singles but I've heard it was all over the place in XY.
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notoriousman posted:I keep assorted odd job Pokémon in a separate box, including but not limited to: a Gallade for catching (bred for roamers), a Bibarel and Tropius as HM mules, a Talonflame for hatching eggs, a Nincada who's only purpose is to faint and have compoundeyes, a Noivern to frisk and steal items, a legion of Meowths to pick up items, and several Combee to farm honey. So you're saying - Pokemon are just tools to you? ...I put False Swipe on my Pangoro (Pam) and she was the loving MVP, though almost eclipsed by fellow HM slave Swanna (Signet) who was incredible in the Pokemon League, despite only being there to fly and surf me places. Ducklett's adorable but Swanna is weird-looking.
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HopperUK posted:So you're saying - Pokemon are just tools to you? Swanna is basically just Carl from Aqua Teen Hunter Force and that's great.
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HopperUK posted:Ducklett's adorable but Swanna is weird-looking. My level 100 Ducklett, Joe Duck, is my dedicated HM guy for exactly this reason. I love him.
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Sep 24, 2016 21:49
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:
It's a shame because he otherwise posts fairly interesting videos.
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Xander B Coolridge posted:I was initially turned off from Wolfe because of Verlisify's accusation of him using a hacked Raichu, but then I remembered that Verlisify is an insufferable man child. I just typed in 'VGC' on youtube search and these were all on the first page.    Verlisify is a tool. I'm not saying it's wrong to be concerned or annoyed with competitive players for using hacked pokemon but there's more constructive ways to express that than clickbait callout videos. Anyway, Wolfey can be really creative with his tactics, although it's important for new players to understand that a tactic without a strategy is just a gimmick. That being said, never stop experimenting, you never know what you could find, even by accident (like the last example in this video). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYwvjBqyvpE
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Sep 24, 2016 22:12
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Lol Verlisify is a bigger bitch than I thought.
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Whoah that dude is so fuckin salty I don't understand why any hacking that's done simply as a shortcut would make people upset? So long as the stats and moves are legal what does it matter?
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yea I've never understood why anyone should care about bypassing the slog of breeding. some people like it, sure, but a lot of other people just look at it as tedious busywork and ignore the whole thing
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Sep 24, 2016 23:32
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Waffles Inc. posted:Whoah that dude is so fuckin salty Yeah this is my first time hearing of this guy so I went to watch the video and...hes mad that Raichu is in an illegal pokeball. Come the gently caress on man literally no one gives a poo poo. As long as the stats and moves are real, its fair!! The rules exist to ensure fairness! Not to bitch about pokeballs, drat.
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Competitive Pokémon isn't about efficiency. It's a pet show, where you have to train your "pets" to be legitimate. You actually have to be connected to your Pokemon but cheaters think the game is merely artificial. Time to join a less common to cheat community, verlis.
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Yeah, or else Nintendo would just gen the pokemon for the competitors. I don't know if I'd call cheating fair but just in general pokemon isn't fair competitively. If you want certain moves legit you might have to own a GC, a copy of the GC game, a DS with a GBA slot, a GBA game and a DS game, etc. And then you'd have to spend literal months praying to the RNG gods to bless you. At that point, cheating still isn't fair but I'd call it more fair than expecting people to go through all of that? At this point Nintendo isn't even making money off of any of those products so they wouldn't have any reason to even promote that. edit: I mean, I own most of that stuff in a closet somewhere maybe but some of the people playing on a competitive level weren't even born before some of those devices/games were out of production. edit2: v Probably one of the safari ball variants? Decus fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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Two decades of games have taught us that thinking of pokemon only as tools for victory is a thought that an rear end in a top hat would think. The games themselves explicitly call it out as wrong. It's not surprising that people who don't put in the legwork of training their own pokemon are treated as heels. I'm struggling to think what kind of ball it would be illegal for a Raichu, of all things, to occupy, however.
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Decus posted:Yeah, or else Nintendo would just gen the pokemon for the competitors. I don't know if I'd call cheating fair but just in general pokemon isn't fair competitively. If you want certain moves legit you might have to own a GC, a copy of the GC game, a DS with a GBA slot, a GBA game and a DS game, etc. And then you'd have to spend literal months praying to the RNG gods to bless you. At that point, cheating still isn't fair but I'd call it more fair than expecting people to go through all of that? At this point Nintendo isn't even making money off of any of those products so they wouldn't have any reason to even promote that. Starting with gen 6 they cut off all pre-gen6 pokemon from being elligle in VGC. Bongo Bill posted:Two decades of games have taught us that thinking of pokemon only as tools for victory is a thought that an rear end in a top hat would think. The games themselves explicitly call it out as wrong. It's not surprising that people who don't put in the legwork of training their own pokemon are treated as heels. Raichu can't have both a hidden ability and a HGSS exclusive ball. Also if you don't think pokemon are just tools, then you're a tool. Pomplamoose fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Sep 25, 2016 |
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Starting with gen 6 they cut off all pre-gen6 pokemon from being elligle in VGC. Oh, good. I remember them opening up Battle Spot to non-pentagon but never checked to see if they carried that into actual tournaments. That was so dumb for Battle Spot.
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It's not even the first time a worlds champ has been outed, Sejun Park was renowned for openly cheating the wifi tournaments to secure national invitations  Then there was the whole Ray Rizzo/Dream Ball, etc. Rafza posted earlier that it's pretty much an unspoken agreement that yes, everyone is going to cheat, but people got lazy at covering their tracks over the past couple of years and it's breaking the facade really badly.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Raichu can't have both a hidden ability and a HGSS exclusive ball. Didn't they make it so that fathers can pass hidden abilities if rarely?
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Akett posted:Didn't they make it so that fathers can pass hidden abilities if rarely? Yeah, something like a 20% chance
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i dont mind people cheating as long as the end result is legal but its annoying when they get lazy and put things in impossible pokeballs. thats my take
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Bongo Bill posted:Two decades of games have taught us that thinking of pokemon only as tools for victory is a thought that an rear end in a top hat would think. The games themselves explicitly call it out as wrong. It's not surprising that people who don't put in the legwork of training their own pokemon are treated as heels. The games say that making Pokémon into tools for fighting is wrong, but the actual underlying mechanics mandate a sustained program of literal eugenics, so Akett posted:Didn't they make it so that fathers can pass hidden abilities if rarely? Only with Ditto.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Raichu can't have both a hidden ability and a HGSS exclusive ball. Ah, I forgot that males can only pass down hidden abilities when breeding with Ditto. For some reason I thought that wasn't the case.
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Emalde posted:It's not even the first time a worlds champ has been outed, Sejun Park was renowned for openly cheating the wifi tournaments to secure national invitations I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy in the finals next year. 
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sharrrk posted:i dont mind people cheating as long as the end result is legal but its annoying when they get lazy and put things in impossible pokeballs. thats my take all pokemon should be able to be in any pokeball imo let people swap out the pokeballs their pokemon are in. I mean, why not? it's not like it even matters, it's just a neat cosmetic thing to put something in a ball that matches it
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something i thought would be cool is if you showed the guy in the pokeball boutique a pokemon, he'd start selling the ball it's in. so the gen 4 balls obviously. but that didn't happen
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I would just like cosmetic pokeballs to be a thing. Just, like, gimmie a dozen variations of the base pokeball.
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the gen4 balls gotta be in sumo it's gotta happen
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Well, we've seen that for the first time in history NPCs have Pokemon in non-standard Pokeballs (We've seen an Ultra Ball on Guzma and I think there was a Safari Ball used by someone else), so maybe there will be more Pokeball customisation options. When's the time if not now?
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Kikas posted:Well, we've seen that for the first time in history NPCs have Pokemon in non-standard Pokeballs (We've seen an Ultra Ball on Guzma and I think there was a Safari Ball used by someone else), so maybe there will be more Pokeball customisation options. When's the time if not now? Agreed--make them money-sinks like the clothing. Literally there should be Pokeball Boutiques
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I finally started messing around with Showdown tonight. Little Cup is so much fun. 
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What's the nickname you guys are most proud of? I end up naming mine after characters in TV shows I'm watching most of the time but some people are a lot more clever than that.
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