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Endless Mike posted:I don't even own a TV! If I had the disposable income, I would pay Chris Collision to watch episodes of random TV shows that I also watch twice a week. He would watch a lot of Power Rangers and Cheers.
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Skwirl posted:Firefly gets the praise because it only got one season so it never had a chance to disappoint us. It's not like Angel had a great batting average-- significant chunks of every season prior to 5 are mediocre to gross-- but season 5 makes up for it and more. I am not even kidding.
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Claims like that are sometimes true, but I'm always suspicious of them. How can we trust someone who just admitted to watching years of "mediocre to gross" tv that the year after that was great? Isn't it just as likely the years of poo poo lowered their standard? For the same reason, I ignore people when they tell me any comic book is good.
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Skwirl posted:Firefly gets the praise because it only got one season so it never had a chance to disappoint us. and yet everybody forgets Space: Above and Beyond
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Animosity #2 After all animals in the world suddenly gain human type consciousness.   
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Rhyno posted:That episode is a classic. It got a comic adaptation  And a sequel  Spike: Shadow Puppets #3
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Teenage Fansub posted:Animosity #2 The pig communist thing doesn't make any sense.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Claims like that are sometimes true, but I'm always suspicious of them. How can we trust someone who just admitted to watching years of "mediocre to gross" tv that the year after that was great? Isn't it just as likely the years of poo poo lowered their standard? for the first 4 seasons a major antagonist is a huge multi dimensional corporate law firm with headquarters in literal hell. At the end of Season 4 they come to Angel and his crew and say "we give up, you win, come run our L.A. branch." After seeing the resources the firm can offer they agree and Season 5 is all about them running an evil corporation while trying to do good without being corrupted. It is awesome.
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CharlestheHammer posted:The pig communist thing doesn't make any sense. Go read Animal Farm.
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CharlestheHammer posted:The pig communist thing doesn't make any sense. Its an Animal Farm reference.
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I've heard of this and seen bits of it, and I admit to being intrigued by the idea.
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CharlestheHammer posted:The pig communist thing doesn't make any sense. The pig is Stalin.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Go read Animal Farm. I mean why is it called animalism, communism comes from community not humanity.
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Take it up with George Orwell.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean why is it called animalism, communism comes from community not humanity. Ask the pig
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Sometimes a reference joke is just a reference joke
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean why is it called animalism, communism comes from community not humanity.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean why is it called animalism, communism comes from community not humanity.
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Nessus posted:They managed to make a good start at building a windmill despite not having any opposable thumbs and also having to be a ham-fisted allegory for the Russian revolution. Cut 'em some slack. They're pigs! They can't help being ham-fisted!
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Sometimes a reference joke is just a reference joke Yeah, sometimes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzGTOizEkW8
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Maybe it's not a reference, maybe they're just pigs that started a movement while co-opting established iconography closely matching their beliefs. Also why is a raccoon looking for a swan?
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Angry Salami posted:They're pigs! They can't help being ham-fisted! I met a large pig named PigPig last week, so this checks out.
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Duke Igthorn posted:Also why is a raccoon looking for a swan? Maybe there's no wink nudge reference and the raccoon is just looking for a missing pal?
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Section Z posted:Maybe there's no wink nudge reference and the raccoon is just looking for a missing pal? Hardcore animal porn.
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SynthOrange posted:i am groot Well, yes, but they couldn't find any evidence of actual wrongdoing over Benghazi...
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SynthOrange posted:i am groot But where are we going to find three midgets and a solid oak door at this time of night?
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mind the walrus posted:I hear you. This is an exception. One thing Angel was good at as a show was shuffling the table around and changing the status quo. Season 5 is by far the biggest change and it's for the better in every way. It also has the single best series finale episode of any show I've ever scene.
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Idk which is worse, be cancelled on a cliffhanger, or finish up all your plots because you thought you were cancelled then get a surprise extension.
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Lurdiak posted:Wasn't the finale a dumb cliffhanger because they didn't expect to get canned at all? Sort of, but they found out they were canceled early enough to retool the last 4 episodes into a workable series finale. Also worth noting that the only reason they got canceled was that Whedon came back to an increased role on Angel after the bitter cancellation of Firefly and he tried to strong arm the WB into an early confirmation for season 6 (something they never confirmed that early in the past) and he pissed off someone enough to get Angel poo poo canned.
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Lurdiak posted:Wasn't the finale a dumb cliffhanger because they didn't expect to get canned at all? The finale itself is frustrating if you don't know in-advance that it ends a lot like the Sopranos, and like the Sopranos by the time the end comes you really don't want it to, which is part of the point. If you are able to take the episode both at face value and as part of the larger show, it's drat-near perfect. It is the encapsulation of the philosophy underpinning the entire show from Episode 1 and gives every character still left a proper send-off--and some are really loving sad if you know the characters well enough to know exactly where their arcs have taken them. Then, when the show ends the way it does, it's not a "dumb cliffhanger." It's entirely consistent with everything that came before and a final punctuation to everything that came before going all the way back to the very beginning of Buffy. mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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mind the walrus posted:Whedon was a spiteful rear end in a top hat to his bosses and got the show cancelled This seems to happen a lot with Whedon shows.
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As far as I know that was the only time it happened to the point where he was the primary reason the show died. Buffy lasted a full run because it helped put the WB network on the map. As far as I'm aware of the WB was very accommodating and UPN was happy to finish out the last 2 seasons. Firefly was allegedly screwed more by executives--the story goes that Firefly was greenlit and produced by one team looking to make sci-fi, only for those executives to leave and be replaced by people going "we're stuck with this expensive sci-fi show we don't want what the gently caress do we do?"--although if Whedon made it worse I would not be surprised. Dollhouse was a case of "we've got an ok show no one wants to watch in a timeslot where no one will watch it" as far as I'm aware of. -------------------------------------------- That's not to excuse Whedon of anything though. Dude has his talents but he seems like a massive tool in a lot of ways. E-- \/ \/ \/ Amen. It was so goddamn unfortunate that it was an Eliza Dushku vehicle where she plays an actress-by-another-name... only for every other actor/actress on the show to act circles around her so thoroughly it was like watching Tron light-cycles circling a child's trike. I sympathize for Dushku though. She isn't horrible. She just doesn't have range and that show was all about showcasing range. Incidentally the fact that Enver Gokaj doesn't have a better career probably violates the Geneva Convention. mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Dollhouse was a great idea with the worst lead actress and a first season that was just trash. Yet it ended up loving incredible. For a little while.
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Does anyone have that page/panel of Batman punching someone from his god chair handy? I need to show a friend. Thanks in advance.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Dollhouse was a great idea with the worst lead actress and a first season that was just trash. Yet it ended up loving incredible.
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It actually did (finally) get around to pointing out that the whole thing was horrible and rapey and terrifying and the initial episodes were the (boring) setup designed to make people see just how the horrible things being done were treated as being fine and normal day-to-day stuff and how hosed up the implications of that were, i.e. that people can normalise anything no matter how bad. So yeah, that's exactly what you were supposed to come away with. Of course, 99% of people only ever saw those early episodes, so Whedon pretty much shot himself in the foot with that. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Dollhouse reminds me of this instant failure of a show that Fox tried to have some years later, the name of which escapes me. The premise was that this mild-mannered accountant guy finds out his entire life is a sleeper agent cover for the "real" him, who's a CIA assassin. Only something goes fucky with their programming and the personalities have to co-exist now. The problem? The lead couldn't sell being two different people for poo poo. You'd think that would be priority 1 when casting.
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