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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Someone pointed out that it's a philosophy based first and foremost on taking the edgiest possible edgelord option whenever given any sort of choice, and then back-justifying it afterwards.

*while including a justification for jacking it to anime porn

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

the best snype

Brandon Proust
Jun 22, 2006

"Like many intellectuals, he was incapable of scoring a simple goal in a simple way"


quoting this for the new page

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

Puppy Time posted:

Beautiful.

For a group that allegedly loves space exploration, they sure do fear space rocks.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Puppy Time posted:

Beautiful.

They're so loving stupid. It's incredible how stupid one person can be

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
What the gently caress is going on with bondage basketball girl, there?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Someone pointed out that it's a philosophy based first and foremost on taking the edgiest possible edgelord option whenever given any sort of choice, and then back-justifying it afterwards.

It's a philosophy for the sort of people who think "Dark Enlightenment" is a cool name.

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

pookel posted:

What the gently caress is going on with bondage basketball girl, there?

Well the first option is always

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

the edgiest possible edgelord option

But it's weirder than it is edgy, at least in my eyes. why is she holding a basketball???

Also something about how it looks makes me think it's at least partially a tracing of a photo, and if so I wonder if she was either holding a basketball or actually bound in the original.

I have now thought about this too much.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

BobHoward posted:

But it's weirder than it is edgy, at least in my eyes. why is she holding a basketball???
Simplest explanation is that it somehow represents a black guy, I guess.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Someone go on twitter and tell Rev that progs think pissing on electric fences is extremely problematic and reactionary.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

The Vosgian Beast posted:


General ideology: Reactionary, the techno-commercialist wing. I was redpilled by Moldbug. The tl;dr. version is this: optimize for intelligence, optimize for asabiyyah(As much as possible in a declining civilization) and select for a higher quality population.

Dark enlightenment chart position: Connected to the political philosophy people via Moldbug, Idegoria, Nydwracu, Spandrell, James Donald and the Techno-commercialists via Nick Land.

Trichotomy position: The techno-commercialist branch, with some sympathies to the ethno-nationalist branch(Supporting omniseperatism) and willing to allow theonomists their own country.

The DE version of "my pronouns are"

Though I like the idea of abolishing copyright and funding libraries. Just too bad all the rest of the crazy comes with it as well.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
I wonder sometimes what percentage of people in the alt-right are too young to remember the Cold War. Because all this "civilization is in decline!" nonsense sounds like exactly what you'd expect from people who were kids during the dot-com boom and whose first experience with the prospect of global war was 9/11.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

To the lampposts!

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

pookel posted:

I wonder sometimes what percentage of people in the alt-right are too young to remember the Cold War. Because all this "civilization is in decline!" nonsense sounds like exactly what you'd expect from people who were kids during the dot-com boom and whose first experience with the prospect of global war was 9/11.

9/10 of them have never read a book that didn't have a dragon in it.

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

pookel posted:

Simplest explanation is that it somehow represents a black guy, I guess.

Oh. Yes. It would be a dog whistle for their obsession with miscegenation and race traitor nonsense, wouldn't it.

I guess I didn't make the connection because I am a cuck white NBA fan who automatically thinks of the majority-black players as relatable fellow human beings rather than a set of ravening beasts whose popularity heralds the slow invasion and takeover of western civilization by alien forces.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Milo's speaking at USF, the university near where I live, tonight at 7, ugh. They called him a "gay activist and columnist who wrote for Breitbart" and talked about his "controversial stances that some people say are racist" on the local NPR station, and then the only person they actually interviewed were the people who invited him (some campus libertarian group I think) who were like "This is how we have a ~conversation~ and if he weren't so controversial nobody would care and we couldn't have this ~conversation~"

As a totally unrelated event, it seems there is a severe thunderstorm above USF right now producing quarter-size hail and lots of lightning. It's the strongest I've seen this year.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
https://twitter.com/GroverNorquist/status/780601603338465280

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


https://twitter.com/GroverNorquist/status/780750619221041152

Thanks grove

Electric Lady
Mar 21, 2010

To be victorious
you must find glory
in the little things
What exactly does it mean to be "redpilled"? Is it just to begin accepting and supporting the rhetoric of the far right?

That's how I've always taken it but it has this weird, invasive inflection to it.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Electric Lady posted:

What exactly does it mean to be "redpilled"? Is it just to begin accepting and supporting the rhetoric of the far right?

That's how I've always taken it but it has this weird, invasive inflection to it.

You see most people are like people in the matrix, oblivious to reality, but some of the edgiest people take the red pill and see that actually they're smart and clever and know what's really going on and everyone else is just dumb sheeple.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Electric Lady posted:

What exactly does it mean to be "redpilled"? Is it just to begin accepting and supporting the rhetoric of the far right?

That's how I've always taken it but it has this weird, invasive inflection to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZmFCs-ltY

At 20 seconds in.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
The funny thing about redpilling is that the Matrix is loaded with metaphors for queer identities and for the last few years they've been the Wachowski Sisters.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Plus, there's the old standby joke about how none of these clowns would accept a black guy telling them their worldview is all wrong.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Razorwired posted:

The funny thing about redpilling is that the Matrix is loaded with metaphors for queer identities and for the last few years they've been the Wachowski Sisters.

the number of people who aren't even redpillers who will try to argue that reading the Matrix as anything LGBT-related is reading too much into it is loving ludicrous, as if it's some kind of SMG bizarro-world nonsense to suggest that two then-closeted trans women might have made a queer film

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

InediblePenguin posted:

the number of people who aren't even redpillers who will try to argue that reading the Matrix as anything LGBT-related is reading too much into it is loving ludicrous, as if it's some kind of SMG bizarro-world nonsense to suggest that two then-closeted trans women might have made a queer film

Nerds hate reading on any level other than the surface.

Unless it's Lovecraft. With Lovecraft it's okay to talk about the underlying philosophy and how his racism might have affected his work. But nerds will tolerate that kind of discussion for nobody else, not even when it's really obvious.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

You can hate him all you want, but you gotta respect how well he knows his people.

Edit:

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Nerds hate reading on any level other than the surface.

Unless it's Lovecraft. With Lovecraft it's okay to talk about the underlying philosophy and how his racism might have affected his work. But nerds will tolerate that kind of discussion for nobody else, not even when it's really obvious.



This will probably be the most :goonsay: thing I posted on these forums, but nerds have the opposite problem. They're the type that thinks the newest Horus Heresy book should be added to the modern literary canon because of how deep and complicated bipolar, grim-dark Batman was portrayed. They might get all smug about how overrated they think a well regarded book (or really any piece of art), but their entire identity is practically based on being anti-surface level reading.

MizPiz has a new favorite as of 18:17 on Sep 27, 2016

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Razorwired posted:

The funny thing about redpilling is that the Matrix is loaded with metaphors for queer identities and for the last few years they've been the Wachowski Sisters.

Also even if you take it at face value humans were the bad guys, being redpilled amounted to living in a lovely cave eating slop and fighting for some moral cosmic justice that literally everyone else in the world would rather ignore and live their simulated lives.

Also what if everyone but neo was just a simulation that the matrix generated because Neo was getting too bored and questioning too much stuff so they had to give his life some "purpose" to keep him from rejecting reality like in the beta matrix :aaaaa:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Nerds hate reading on any level other than the surface.

Unless it's Lovecraft. With Lovecraft it's okay to talk about the underlying philosophy and how his racism might have affected his work. But nerds will tolerate that kind of discussion for nobody else, not even when it's really obvious.



The thing about Lovecraft is a lot of his work itself was incredibly racist, so even nerds can't sweep it under the rug or mentally justify why actually no this story is totally happy and fine and i don't know why you have to see racism everywhere. He was about as unambiguously racist as you can get, which is actually kind of, uh, refreshing compared to today's dogwhistles and constant denial.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

In other news the survey for Neoreaction a Basilisk went out yesterday, and he said he's going to start shipping in a week :woop:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

MizPiz posted:

This will probably be the most :goonsay: thing I posted on these forums, but nerds have the opposite problem. They're the type that thinks the newest Horus Heresy book should be added to the modern literary canon because of how deep and complicated bipolar, grim-dark Batman was portrayed. They might get all smug about how overrated they think a well regarded book (or really any piece of art), but their entire identity is practically based on being anti-surface level reading.

Eh I think they do both. For example My Little Pony is supposedly a super-deep incredibly wonderful show with so many levels, man, but Warhammer is a 100% dead serious totally not a parody thing.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

MizPiz posted:

You can hate him all you want, but you gotta respect how well he knows his people.

Edit:


This will probably be the most :goonsay: thing I posted on these forums, but nerds have the opposite problem. They're the type that thinks the newest Horus Heresy book should be added to the modern literary canon because of how deep and complicated bipolar, grim-dark Batman was portrayed. They might get all smug about how overrated they think a well regarded book (or really any piece of art), but their entire identity is practically based on being anti-surface level reading.

The Horus Heresy books are a lot of fun but they are pure pulp schlock. And nerds need to learn that that's ok. It doesn't have to be Citizen Kane in order to be enjoyable.

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Nerds hate reading on any level other than the surface.

Unless it's Lovecraft. With Lovecraft it's okay to talk about the underlying philosophy and how his racism might have affected his work. But nerds will tolerate that kind of discussion for nobody else, not even when it's really obvious.

I dunno, that is typically a fantastic way to get nerds to tell you that he wasn't very racist at all, product of his time, therefore shut up you big gay woman. Which despite the fact that even if that were true would not change that we're reading him in out time and not his. But nerds cannot deal with flaws in anything they like, no matter how gaping they are.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

MizPiz posted:

You can hate him all you want, but you gotta respect how well he knows his people.

Edit:


This will probably be the most :goonsay: thing I posted on these forums, but nerds have the opposite problem. They're the type that thinks the newest Horus Heresy book should be added to the modern literary canon because of how deep and complicated bipolar, grim-dark Batman was portrayed. They might get all smug about how overrated they think a well regarded book (or really any piece of art), but their entire identity is practically based on being anti-surface level reading.

Show me a non-surface level reading of a Horus Heresy book.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Eh I think they do both. For example My Little Pony is supposedly a super-deep incredibly wonderful show with so many levels, man, but Warhammer is a 100% dead serious totally not a parody thing.

You're right, but the reason they see Warhammer as 100% serious is because they think it's realistic. The depth doesn't come from the metaphoric or allegoric aspects of the work, but how "accurate" the setting, characters, and actions are based on their worldview. Basically, Warhammer doesn't extra levels because it's already portraying life as it really is.

Then again, this could be exactly what you're saying just with different words, thus confirming this as one of my more :goonsay: moments.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Show me a non-surface level reading of a Horus Heresy book.

TBH I just used that as an example because I'm on a bit of a 40k lore-binge.

Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx

Electric Lady posted:

What exactly does it mean to be "redpilled"? Is it just to begin accepting and supporting the rhetoric of the far right?

That's how I've always taken it but it has this weird, invasive inflection to it.

These are people who believe in meme magic. They think words and images can forcibly change the way you understand the world, such that you suddenly wake up and look in horror at what had previously taken for granted. After that revelation, you'll love the patriarchy (which is always the step I'm confused about) and a subset of weird psuedo-conservative beliefs.

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Show me a non-surface level reading of a Horus Heresy book.

The Emperor represents the failures of Patriarchy. Specifically in Horus Rising, the failure of patriarchs to construct proper journeys into adulthood. Rather than being adults, the Primarchs have journeyed into a stunted manhood, which inevitably leaves them open to the corrupting energies of Chaos.

Peztopiary has a new favorite as of 19:39 on Sep 27, 2016

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Peztopiary posted:

These are people who believe in meme magic. They think words and images can forcibly change the way you understand the world, such that you suddenly wake up and look in horror at what had previously taken for granted. After that revelation, you'll love the patriarchy (which is always the step I'm confused about) and a subset of weird psuedo-conservative beliefs.


The Emperor represents the failures of Patriarchy. Specifically in Horus Rising, the failure of patriarchs to construct proper journeys into adulthood. Rather than being adults, the Primarchs have journeyed into a stunted manhood, which inevitably leaves them open to the corrupting energies of Chaos.

Malcador the Sigilite did warn the Emperor that he should have made at least some of the Primarchs his daughters instead of all being his sons, possibly for that very reason.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Show me a non-surface level reading of a Horus Heresy book.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/horus-heresy-series-analysis-thread-carried-over.309480/

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

This is my least favorite kind of internet thing ever.

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