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Imo if you are going to be killing people I don't want you to be able to abstract it away to pressing a button and hearing a boom from miles away and I want it to be right up in your face and as visceral as possible because it is a really serious goddamn thing you are doing and you should be very deeply questioning why your career has led you to this point if you have a problem with it. e: Ugh sorry this is a terrible snipe
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:So are challenge coins the kind of semi-official thing where whenever there's an excuse to make one you do and design it however you want? Like how with specialized missions or rocket launches they always make a unique patch for everyone involved and they put crazy poo poo like dragons and robot-minotaurs and skeletons on them? It's like cards, You throw down hoping the guy you go against has a lower ranking/no coin And that patch fuckin' owns
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Not that I want to defend the drone program or anything but isn't that like, most military operations that involve killing people? Previously it wasn't the same guy doing the long term observation, shooting and battle damage assessment.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Not that I want to defend the drone program or anything but isn't that like, most military operations that involve killing people? There's a difference between shooting someone who's shooting at you and blowing up a wedding for no reason
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I think I saw something peer reviewed about different kinds of PTSD and developing new methods for the drone pilots, I'll see if I can find it. Edit: here are three: The labor of surveillance and bureaucratized killing: new subjectivities of military drone operators http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10350330.2013.777591 An analysis of post-traumatic stress symptoms in United States Air Force drone operators http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0887618514000656?via=sd MEASURING THE MORAL IMPACT OF OPERATING "DRONES" ON PILOTS IN COMBAT, DISASTER MANAGEMENT AND SURVEILLANCE http://aisel.aisnet.org/ecis2014/proceedings/track12/14/ I don't know this last journal, so I'm not sure about peer review: Symptoms of Psychological Distress and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder in United States Air Force “Drone” Operators http://publications.amsus.org/doi/abs/10.7205/MILMED-D-13-00501 WrenP-Complete has issued a correction as of 23:45 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Imo if you are going to be killing people I don't want you to be able to abstract it away to pressing a button and hearing a boom from miles away and I want it to be right up in your face and as visceral as possible because it is a really serious goddamn thing you are doing and you should be very deeply questioning why your career has led you to this point if you have a problem with it. So you want to sign up some grunt for PTSD because you are not comfortable with society's choice?
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Sep 26, 2016 23:59
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https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/780527263775207424
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WrenP-Complete posted:I don't know this last journal, so I'm not sure about peer review: It's at least facially credible- ASMUS is a congressionally created org and the publication does include peer review. Given their remit, they may have better data access than others. That said, although the method's about as good as one could hope for, it's still compromisingly weak if you're looking for actual rates for inter-service comparison purposes. It's sufficient to indicate that PTSD is a problem for drone pilots, though.
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Here is how I imagine that going: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zepAp5qQiDw
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I feel compelled to chime in that there are some neurophysiological underpinnings to PTSD, which are going to make some individuals much more susceptible to it than others. The most current literature that I am aware of finds that there are a lot of parallels between PTSD and the results of traumatic brain injury, both in terms of susceptibility and resilience. This kind of came up tangentially in my own studies, because I appear to be in the latter group (resilient to the effects of head trauma). If you have a large enough sample exposed to a highly provocative stimulus there will almost certainly be some percentage (or fractional percentage) that will have a more severe reaction to it simply due to their particular neurophysical substrate. At least the "Patriot" movement shouldn't have to worry about it, being pretty much brain-free to begin with.
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Omega 3 supplementation as an improvement in PTSD-related resilience outcomes is being tested right now. The lead scientist's pretty incompetent, though. edit: I am now visualizing prison aides force-feeding the Bundys fish oil. Discendo Vox has issued a correction as of 00:54 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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SocketWrench posted:It's like cards, You throw down hoping the guy you go against has a lower ranking/no coin Only there's always That Guy who challenges absolutely loving everyone because he knows his coin is higher than 95% of the others. He's That Guy that Ruins Everything and I guarantee you that's part of why challenge coins fell out of favor. The guy with the shittiest coin gets to go broke or never, ever go out. The guy with the best coin gets to die of liver failure from all the free booze.
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Discendo Vox posted:Omega 3 supplementation as an improvement in PTSD-related resilience outcomes is being tested right now. The lead scientist's pretty incompetent, though. Who is the PI and why incompetent? CaptainSarcastic, that's super interesting and not my area at all. Is there a paper or papers you'd recommend?
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WrenP-Complete posted:Who is the PI and why incompetent? I don't have any available at ready recall, but a quick search turned up: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3182008/ It's a bit general but touches on at least some of the salient points.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Not that I want to defend the drone program or anything but isn't that like, most military operations that involve killing people? I'm going completely by memory here, but I recall that it took a while for the military to recognize and accept that drone pilots suffer a lot of the same psychological difficulties that fighter pilots do. The necessary psychological care wasn't available at first because it was presumed, with no basis at all, that drone pilots could handle more missions and flight time, because they were just sitting in front of a screen in Nevada.
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therobit posted:So you want to sign up some grunt for PTSD because you are not comfortable with society's choice? It's not like there's a draft anymore, and the military has been doing horrible things basically since we've had a military so anyone joining really should know by now that there's the possibility of being made to do something horrible themselves (or at the very least kill someone). PTSD is probably a bit much, I wouldn't wish that on anyone, and we should have much more robust screening and treatment systems in place (and research it a lot more), but killing people absolutely does need to be one of those things that haunts you, that you're not removed or insulated from at all. I mean hell if it were up to me everyone up the chain of command right to the president would watch a few videos of the drone exploding people's legs off at least a few times, clockwork orange style, to drive the point home. ToxicSlurpee posted:Only there's always That Guy who challenges absolutely loving everyone because he knows his coin is higher than 95% of the others. He's That Guy that Ruins Everything and I guarantee you that's part of why challenge coins fell out of favor. The guy with the shittiest coin gets to go broke or never, ever go out. The guy with the best coin gets to die of liver failure from all the free booze. So they're basically pokemon cards
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TheMadMilkman posted:I'm going completely by memory here, but I recall that it took a while for the military to recognize and accept that drone pilots suffer a lot of the same psychological difficulties that fighter pilots do. The necessary psychological care wasn't available at first because it was presumed, with no basis at all, that drone pilots could handle more missions and flight time, because they were just sitting in front of a screen in Nevada. That certainly sounds like something that would have happened, yeah 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Only there's always That Guy who challenges absolutely loving everyone because he knows his coin is higher than 95% of the others. He's That Guy that Ruins Everything and I guarantee you that's part of why challenge coins fell out of favor. The guy with the shittiest coin gets to go broke or never, ever go out. The guy with the best coin gets to die of liver failure from all the free booze. Basically, yes. Though if you were that fucker you likely gained a rep for being a poo poo bag and the bar would empty out whenever you wandered your rear end in
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Casimir Radon posted:You work for a vanity press?
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I actually didn't know that vanity presses existed outside of academia, because I thought print on demand would have taken that whole market.
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WrenP-Complete posted:I actually didn't know that vanity presses existed outside of academia, because I thought print on demand would have taken that whole market. Before that, if you claimed that you have five novels in print by St. Isidore Press, and had actual copies of those novels strategically placed where someone could open them up and see that, yep, they really have all the makings of a real novel, it'd be reasonably hard to refute that. Not impossible, or even all that difficult, but not something that could be done in real-time. Now, someone whips out their smartphone, does a quick search and finds out that St. Isidore Press is actually two guys and a cheap digital press in a small warehouse in Nebraska, and the jig is up. Not that there isn't still a buck to be made stroking the egos of rich idiots, but all it takes is for Atlanta Nights Part 2 to go viral and your entire web presence is shot to hell.
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I thought that self published authors retained the rights to their work, whereas if someone went through a vanity press, the vanity press would hold the rights. Like in the Umberto Eco book whose name is escaping me and I'm phone posting.
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WrenP-Complete posted:I thought that self published authors retained the rights to their work, whereas if someone went through a vanity press, the vanity press would hold the rights. Like in the Umberto Eco book whose name is escaping me and I'm phone posting. Foucault's Pendulum! wherein the vanity press exists mostly to scam conspiracy theorists out of their money. i think. its been a while since I read it.
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https://twitter.com/ameliaOPB/status/780558650372874240 Don't worry she keeps her clothes on.
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https://twitter.com/ameliaOPB/status/780555817154031616 oh ffs
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Gennifer Flowers posted:https://twitter.com/ameliaOPB/status/780558650372874240 http://votefiore.com/2016-calendar/
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SocketWrench posted:It's like cards, You throw down hoping the guy you go against has a lower ranking/no coin If i had one of those denim jackets metalheads sew a million patches into this would be my white whale:  
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"The streets are very dangerous and there's a raging epidemic of violence in our nation." - Franklin Graham So, is he ignorant of the actual FBI crime statistics showing a steady decline in violent crime since the 1970s and 1980s, or is he just lying? Considering his credentials I am inclined to suspect the latter.
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https://twitter.com/hecktow/status/780550146731876352 Very good cross examination here.
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I wonder if it was found near the 55 gallon drum of personal lubricant.
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I thought that the benefits of omega 3's don't really scale up as you take more. Like how excess B-vitamins just get flushed out of the system and down the toilet.
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Fiore and Graham at the refuge: https://goo.gl/images/zYUDHo
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:If i had one of those denim jackets metalheads sew a million patches into this would be my white whale: Im a big fan of the spy satellites 
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Goodpancakes posted:Im a big fan of the spy satellites My fave: 
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Chubby lady fails at Lara Croft cosplay.
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RandomPauI posted:I thought that the benefits of omega 3's don't really scale up as you take more. Like how excess B-vitamins just get flushed out of the system and down the toilet. I read over the study quickly a few hours ago, but if I recall correctly, it was testing omega-3 supplementation against no omega-3 supplementation, not looking for a dose-dependant effect.
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RandomPauI posted:I thought that the benefits of omega 3's don't really scale up as you take more. Like how excess B-vitamins just get flushed out of the system and down the toilet. Short version- it's complicated, depends on the kind of omega 3, and what it's bound to- and a lot of people take none. All of that said, I'm not sure of its efficacy either- but the evidence is more plausible for the neuro stuff than it's turned out to be for a bunch of other health outcomes (the early research that promoted general longevity claims was garbage correlation or p-hacking).
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CaptainSarcastic posted:"The streets are very dangerous and there's a raging epidemic of violence in our nation." - Franklin Graham Doesn't matter too much but that's off by a couple decades, kinda plateaued around 1992-1993 and steadily dropped after. Check table 1 here for the older stuff, just gives you an excel file.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:"The streets are very dangerous and there's a raging epidemic of violence in our nation." - Franklin Graham Seems to be the standard among the republican aligned. Trump tried passing that bullshit on tonight and Hillary shot him down like a B-17 over Berlin
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