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Mu Zeta posted:Yeah some former IGN guys quit and created a Patreon and they make over $20,000 a month. That's on top of the money they get from Youtube ads and merchandise. It's definitely possible if you have a dedicated audience. Jesus, is this Danny O'Dwyer? When you said 'guys' I assumed it was like people starting a whole review site thing (ala Red Letter Media being on Patreon), not O'Dwyer traveling the world with a film crew. What a sweet loving thing he's carved out for himself, after 2 weeks on Patreon 
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I was talking about Greg Miller and some other guys. But yeah Danny O'Dwyer is also doing it. https://www.patreon.com/kindafunnygames
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Phlegmish posted:To be honest, even of the non-annoying Internet ads out there, there's probably 0.1% that I would even voluntarily click on. Maybe subconsciously there's a recognition effect going on, as with regular advertising, but I don't think I've ever made a purchase based on an Internet ad. The same's probably true for most people here. I'd say it's in our interest to keep the fiction alive so we keep getting free content. 0% have ever clicked on a TV ad, why do they still make those?
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Hi Japan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb8VgJjNSW8
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It's probably long since outdated, but didn't someone calculate what each Facebook user is worth in advertising revenue and it's a pretty tiny amount (like 3 dollars a year). This would have been before their IPO so it's possible our data is worth more now. Still, Facebook could charge $5/year and probably be better off. I guess the difference that's a set defined income whereas there's no limit on what you can value advertising, so they're still better off selling ad space on a free service.
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Krispy Kareem posted:It's probably long since outdated, but didn't someone calculate what each Facebook user is worth in advertising revenue and it's a pretty tiny amount (like 3 dollars a year). This would have been before their IPO so it's possible our data is worth more now. Charging $5/year scares off 90% of their user base.
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What is all this amazing content on Youtube that I am missing? I pretty much only use it when I cant find a text/pic product review, want to listen to an album before I buy it, or have some really specific thing like "timing belt replacement on 05 Forester" that I want to see a video of.
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sassassin posted:Charging $5/year scares off 90% of their user base. Until you reach a level where people are comfortable with subscription services + hit a critical mass of the population where you miss out on too much poo poo by not being a member. It wouldn't work in developing markets, but isn't that where Facebook is trying to become an internet provider as well? There they'd have advertising plus metrics on everything you do online. I'm not saying going to a yearly subscription would be good business, but if that whole online advertising thing doesn't work out - Facebook is probably already at a stage where they could get away with it. bongwizzard posted:What is all this amazing content on Youtube that I am missing? I pretty much only use it when I cant find a text/pic product review, want to listen to an album before I buy it, or have some really specific thing like "timing belt replacement on 05 Forester" that I want to see a video of. You aren't looking hard enough. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGnMVijx5GE
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bongwizzard posted:What is all this amazing content on Youtube that I am missing?
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what does youtube red even have? what's the problem? they're just using a girl to pretend that she's an eel.
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Youtube Red is a monthly subscription service - No ads on Youtube - Exclusive Youtube shows from the likes of Pewdiepie and whatever - You also get access to Google Music without ads.
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Mu Zeta posted:Youtube Red is a monthly subscription service Like I said, too little to offer people who pay for the service, and nothing to help the massive communities that make youtube worth visiting in the first place Next time something like RedTube gets launched, hopefully it won't be a pile of dogshit that makes everyone think of porn sites while giggling to themselves
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Plastik posted:Now the story is recirculating (it's two years old) because they recently admitted that they were miscalculating the length of time an average user viewed a video. Specifically, they were telling advertisers a number of people who viewed their video, which is everyone who saw the video at all, regardless of duration, and then they were telling them how long people watched it for, which was an average of all the people who viewed the video for more than three seconds. (I guess I just assume everyone who works at ad companies "knows" their ads are mostly ignored. Is that not the case?)
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I'm glad YouTube Red and Hulu+ No Ads exist just so the people who have spent years justifying blocking ads by saying they would pay to turn them off if they could have to move those goalposts a little further.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:They literally put it next to total views? That's a valid complaint, then.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Until you reach a level where people are comfortable with subscription services + hit a critical mass of the population where you miss out on too much poo poo by not being a member. This is an example of what you can do with a phone camera and basic editing software. Make a genuine good and funny video on zero budget. This is YouTube, this is where it shines. https://youtu.be/RsKFsce5phw
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Mu Zeta posted:Youtube Red is a monthly subscription service Wow, all of this for just ten bucks a month? You mean I can avoid seeing ads, watch a child scream rape jokes into a scarecam, and listen to music, all for ten bucks a month? Holy poo poo, sign me the gently caress up! There's no way to do all of those things for free or anything All they had to do is charge half that much, change that dumbass name, and put a little symbol next to paying subscribers' usernames in comments sections on videos so they knew they were better than everyone else. They'd need several Scrooge McDuck vaults to hold all the money they'd rake in. GOTTA STAY FAI has a new favorite as of 19:59 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Guy Mann posted:I'm glad YouTube Red and Hulu+ No Ads exist just so the people who have spent years justifying blocking ads by saying they would pay to turn them off if they could have to move those goalposts a little further. Enjoy your malware
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Wow, all of this for just ten bucks a month? You mean I can avoid seeing ads, watch a child scream rape jokes into a scarecam, and listen to music, all for ten bucks a month? Holy poo poo, sign me the gently caress up! There's no way to do all of those things for free or anything I bought a subscription to Google Music and got Youtube Red without knowing it. I think Google Music is a good service. Same as Spotify and the like.
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Phanatic posted:Edit: My brother just forwarded me an email he received from a recruiter. Subject line: "rear end. Construction Management Opportunity." You think you'd consider abbreviations like that before sending it out to thousands of people. Could be worse, could've been rear end. Destruction.
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Lady Demelza posted:Because companies sell your information. About 10 years ago I signed up for a free trial and the employee forgot to change the default title from 'Mr' in the dropdown menu. Within a month, junk mail was arriving to Mr Lady Demelza, so it was pretty obvious that the company was making money from free trials by selling on data.  
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I really only watch YouTube through my PS3, where the ads are really reasonable. Every couple of videos an ad will play before the next video starts, and I can skip it after 5 seconds. Smart advertisers either fit the important bits in the first 5 seconds or make it interesting enough that I'll watch a little longer to see what it is. I'll also sometimes watch it if it's a movie trailer I haven't seen. I watched a video on a computer the other day and the ads were way more intrusive.
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Phlegmish posted:To be honest, even of the non-annoying Internet ads out there, there's probably 0.1% that I would even voluntarily click on. Maybe subconsciously there's a recognition effect going on, as with regular advertising, but I don't think I've ever made a purchase based on an Internet ad. The same's probably true for most people here. I'd say it's in our interest to keep the fiction alive so we keep getting free content. I actually bought two games on Steam thanks to internet ads. I also bot some hand knit stuff a bajillion years ago from an ad here. There were a few times where an advert for a game made me think "well good to know that's coming out!" Granted in those cases the game turned out to be a steaming pile of poo poo and I didn't buy it but y'know. If I have the money and somebody advertises something to me I would actually want then yes the advert is going to work on me. Most adverts on the internet are maximum obnoxiousness for maximum bullshit. Which is really why people tune them out and assume internet adverts are stupid; it's the most annoying bullshit hawking loving garbage. The strategy of internet advertising far too often is "meh, this is cheap and our product sucks so let's just throw all the poo poo against the wall and sell things to idiots." That or the adverts are links to sites with malware. You know.
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Krispy Kareem posted:You aren't looking hard enough. Oh my god, my childhood! This was the car my parents had when I was a kid. This is a very good video, thanks!
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I remember the old free magazine thread where people had life long Maxim subscriptions being delivered to Pope Bonermaxxx Mongodong or whatever. I got a bunch of those for a while but the only one that's never randomly stopped appearing is my subscription to Ebony that's going on 3+ years now.
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Recently, the Portuguese branch of Vodafone decided to make a series of adverts about this modern family using their cable package to become more modern. It's a bit annoying but mostly harmless ("The nephew likes using our wifi all the time, and then I disconnect until he starts calling me Boss tee hee!"). They've done a series of small adverts for tv and youtube, one of them being "What is Lag? You can avoid it if you use our services!" Now this wouldn't be a problem if it was more well targeted, like if it was only tv or on youtube, it would make sense. But not on Twitch. So if you have a particularly choppy wifi connection, you can get lectured several times on what lag is while you are watching from a streaming service where "loving lag" might be a comma at this point and most likely have known what it is if you are in Portugal. To the point the advert was pulled from the Vodafone Portugal Youtube page.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:They literally put it next to total views? That's a valid complaint, then. Ad Men are loving idiots who's business is not based in reality
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I think this article is really poorly written. Remember when facebook pushed the update so videos would start auto-playing as you scrolled past them? What do you want to bet all those 0-2 second views weren't people clicking on a video, watching it for 3 seconds and then turning it off, but instead people simply scrolling their wall as everybody does?  Basically they tricked everybody who uses facebook into counting as part of their "video viewers" by having it auto-play instead of requiring clicks.
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Am I the only person who lives in a magical universe where I don't get YouTube or Facebook ads? Granted, I pretty much use YT just to watch the occasional music video, binge some Biggie & Banzai, or get a tutorial on cooking a thing, but I've never had these intrusive ads y'all have been talking about. I can't imagine paying for an ad-free version of YT because, well, I just don't get ads. 
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Am I the only person who lives in a magical universe where I don't get YouTube or Facebook ads? Granted, I pretty much use YT just to watch the occasional music video, binge some Biggie & Banzai, or get a tutorial on cooking a thing, but I've never had these intrusive ads y'all have been talking about. I can't imagine paying for an ad-free version of YT because, well, I just don't get ads. What're the odds you've got an ad blocker installed without knowing? If you're straight up never seeing ads then yeah, it's either that or the magical universe thing.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Am I the only person who lives in a magical universe where I don't get YouTube or Facebook ads? Granted, I pretty much use YT just to watch the occasional music video, binge some Biggie & Banzai, or get a tutorial on cooking a thing, but I've never had these intrusive ads y'all have been talking about. I can't imagine paying for an ad-free version of YT because, well, I just don't get ads. I don't get youtube ads because I have a blocker installed that skips them for me. I notice real fast when the blocker isn't working or I'm at a new computer and suddenly youtube has all these ads. Facebook just inserts fake news stories into your feed, they're not typical ads. Its all the "Hey check out this hilarious video" (which is actually promoting a product, aka an ad) that modern marketing is crazy about. Or even just trying to get you to click on links to websites.
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I run uBlock Origin on Firefox and not see any ads When I view the forms on my phone, it confuses the hell out of me when I follow a youtube link and get a completely unrelated video - it takes me far too long to realise that it is an advert and I am not watching the content and confused as to how it relates to the post.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Am I the only person who lives in a magical universe where I don't get YouTube or Facebook ads? Granted, I pretty much use YT just to watch the occasional music video, binge some Biggie & Banzai, or get a tutorial on cooking a thing, but I've never had these intrusive ads y'all have been talking about. I can't imagine paying for an ad-free version of YT because, well, I just don't get ads.
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My wife constantly complains about the ads on a particular news site (very location specific with school/traffic info not available readily anywhere else) so we've been trying to find a phone browser/plug-in combo that blocks enough of the ads to make the site useable without breaking it completely. My current favorite ad gradually covers the entire screen in green splotches, rendering the content unreadable for about 30 seconds before the skip button appears. She also sent me a Pinterest link the other day, most of what I needed to know was in the picture but like a fool I followed the link to read it. Turns out cosmopolitan magazine clutter their mobile site with so many dynamic ads I literally couldn't navigate the page and quickly left. I'm sure they got in a few hundred ad impressions in that time though. Me I just fight a constant battle at work of trying to get addons installed into the not-allowed-but-we'll-look-the-other-way copy of chrome so I can watch YouTube at lunch without spending half my lunchtime watching ads.
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Croccers posted:Maybe I get not as bombarded with ads because I'm in Australia? Even without an ad-block it's no-where near as bad as others make it out to be.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Am I the only person who lives in a magical universe where I don't get YouTube or Facebook ads? Granted, I pretty much use YT just to watch the occasional music video, binge some Biggie & Banzai, or get a tutorial on cooking a thing, but I've never had these intrusive ads y'all have been talking about. I can't imagine paying for an ad-free version of YT because, well, I just don't get ads. Maybe the last time you asked your nephew to fix/disinfect your computer he pulled the old "secretly install an adblocker in Aunt Jacqueline's computer so she stops getting virus infections from the weird christian websites and/or porn she keeps browsing" trick.
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Lady Demelza posted:Because companies sell your information. About 10 years ago I signed up for a free trial and the employee forgot to change the default title from 'Mr' in the dropdown menu. Within a month, junk mail was arriving to Mr Lady Demelza, so it was pretty obvious that the company was making money from free trials by selling on data. Wasn't there an urban legend about some kids who invented a fictional friend to get free ice cream on 'his' birthday from an ice cream chain as part of a promotion only to get a draft card through the mail on 'his' 18th birthday?
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