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Toshimo posted:Oh, man, you guys made me go look back at my Marvel Graphic Novels. Is that Thunderbird? 
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Dick Trauma posted:Is that Thunderbird? Danielle Moonstar
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Toshimo posted:Osborn revealed to Jameson that a side-effect of the OZ formula was that it granted immortality
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Calaveron posted:This is the stupidest goddamn thing I've read this month We can fix that. We have the technology.
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Toshimo posted:Danielle Moonstar If Tom Orzechowski does the letters I'm willing to read it. 
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I'm surprised no-one posted the part from last issue of Detective Comics with Batman and Spoiler dealing with Tim Drake's 'death'. (Also I really loved that Tim's sign-off on the radio before his 'last stand' was "Robin out". Not Red Robin, just Robin.)
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Toshimo posted:Ok, chucklefucks. You made me go find it. Can someone tell me who the space cowpoke with the robot horse is?
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site posted:I don't have anything in front of me to look at but i swear Wakanda has already cured cancer and they actively don't give it out to anybody because non citizens don't deserve it  Thanks, Reginald Hudlin.
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site posted:I don't have anything in front of me to look at but i swear Wakanda has already cured cancer and they actively don't give it out to anybody because non citizens don't deserve it That's right up their with Mutants being immune to AIDS.
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AnonSpore posted:Hi I'm Reed Richards, and I don't cure cancer for everyone forever while munching my morning toast because Reed Richards not solving all these real world issues is totally fine and good and ok when they don't tell stories about those things next to him. The second Sue gets cancer if he doesn't cure all people with her type of cancer and share breakthroughs with the medical community that allow lesser scientists to cure all/most cancer over the next year or so, he's a loving joke. "No, my magical friend, I do not want to cure my life threatening illness" is loving retarded. Especially when it isn't "No, my magical friend, $cost is too high for the magical cure" but rather "don't even loving look for anything Thor, I'm cool with breast cancer"
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Lurdiak posted:
comic book folks shouldn't write about cancer
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Toshimo posted:Oh, man, you guys made me go look back at my Marvel Graphic Novels. She's not wrong.
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Sigma-X posted:Reed Richards not solving all these real world issues is totally fine and good and ok when they don't tell stories about those things next to him. The second Sue gets cancer if he doesn't cure all people with her type of cancer and share breakthroughs with the medical community that allow lesser scientists to cure all/most cancer over the next year or so, he's a loving joke. Doesn't most of Reed's money come from a combination of patents on stuff he's invented and what are basically bribes from various industries to keep his inventions from being sold to the general pubic because it would put those various industries out of business? I would be willing to bet Reed's probably come up with dozens of wonder drugs that may not actually cure whatever disease it is you got, but can comfortably suppress the symptoms without adverse side-effects while allowing you to comfortably recover from it with your body's own natural defenses (or at least live day to day without pain)... and nobody in the Marvel universe ever sees any of it because big pharma is paying for a new wing to the Baxter Building or whatever loving skyscraper he lives in now.
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Calaveron posted:This is the stupidest goddamn thing I've read this month It's stupid but not like it came out of nowhere. A constant of his run was Osborn "dying" and coming back to life. Like the previous time that he died his goddamn head got removed but he still returned.
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W.T. Fits posted:Doesn't most of Reed's money come from a combination of patents on stuff he's invented and what are basically bribes from various industries to keep his inventions from being sold to the general pubic because it would put those various industries out of business? It's fine so long as that isn't actually a part of the story but the second you recognize that as a story element Reed is straight up a villain
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As with most questions like this, the answer is "don't think too much about it."
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muscles like this? posted:It's stupid but not like it came out of nowhere. A constant of his run was Osborn "dying" and coming back to life. Like the previous time that he died his goddamn head got removed but he still returned. Yep it was the catalyst of Peters original death and it's the reason I hate that story. Norman's original end was great.
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Another thing that's stupid about that story is Ock suddenly has a change of heart which comes out of absolutely nowhere. The guy's headed an entire illegal research lab dedicated to loving up Peter's life, and suddenly he's like "Spider-man is cool + a hero"
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The death of Spider-Man is just a really bad story that is meant to tug at the heartstrings and give a sagging title a boost.
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Lurdiak posted:
The sanctimony and selfishness displayed in this sequence enrages me more than I can describe. As I've said, I don't have cancer (I have something slower) but if I found out some other country was withholding the cure to my condition on the grounds that they politically distrusted America with the responsibility to save the lives of millions, I just...I don't know what I would do.
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Choco1980 posted:The sanctimony and selfishness displayed in this sequence enrages me more than I can describe. As I've said, I don't have cancer (I have something slower) but if I found out some other country was withholding the cure to my condition on the grounds that they politically distrusted America with the responsibility to save the lives of millions, I just...I don't know what I would do. Keep in mind you're supposed to be rooting for these people.
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Lurdiak posted:Keep in mind you're supposed to be rooting for these people. I like the part where the old dude waxes on about how undeserving the west is, and then without missing a beat talks about how important revenge is. Isn't that like the first thing an enlightened society is supposed to start frowning on?
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Toshimo posted:Danielle Moonstar Yeah, in her defense I don't think it was a few months before someone let out his evil side and he mind banged her. Probably not the best guardian for teenage girls, that.
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Sigma-X posted:
"The cost for magical cures are always too high" is pretty explicitly the initial argument Jane Foster makes.
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Sigma-X posted:It's fine so long as that isn't actually a part of the story but the second you recognize that as a story element Reed is straight up a villain The "Council of Reeds" story outright states that the only reason 616 Reed Richards isn't a villain is Sue.
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It's been a minute since I read it, but wasn't the actual reason that 616 Reed was the only one with his father around since the rest of the Nathans all killed each other?
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Jedit posted:The "Council of Reeds" story outright states that the only reason 616 Reed Richards isn't a villain is Sue. Did The Maker make it out of the Ultimate Universe? Or is he dead now?
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Infinitum posted:Did The Maker make it out of the Ultimate Universe? Or is he dead now? He's in 616 now. 
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Toshimo posted:He's in 616 now. Noice. That version of Reed is the loving best.
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I miss Ultimate Reed being a misunderstood kid who tricked his friends into drinking his own pee. The Maker is a good villain but I liked him as a good guy.
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Endless Mike posted:It's been a minute since I read it, but wasn't the actual reason that 616 Reed was the only one with his father around since the rest of the Nathans all killed each other? I think you can imply that one leads to the other. The rest chose science over their families because they didn't have a dad.
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Being a villain has also resulted in him being about 40% stupider, as he just got owned by Sunspot and Songbird.
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Gaz-L posted:Being a villain has also resulted in him being about 40% stupider, as he just got owned by Sunspot and Songbird. Not even super-geniuses are prepared for the might of Champagne Robot.
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Wade Wilson posted:"The cost for magical cures are always too high" is pretty explicitly the initial argument Jane Foster makes. Yeah and its an argument that she makes weakly as gently caress.
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Yeah I have no problem with any story using contrivance to get the characters into an interesting thematic place, but don't pretend it isn't contrivance.
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Sigma-X posted:Yeah and its an argument that she makes weakly as gently caress. She was talking to Thor and he is well aware of all the crazy magic/Norse related poo poo that has happened to her.
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bobkatt013 posted:She was talking to Thor and he is well aware of all the crazy magic/Norse related poo poo that has happened to her. can we just get to the point where we agree that there is no amount of words that can be typed that is going to change my opinion on this being a badly written cancer story? If there is a good story that can be told about a superhero that lives in a world full of science wizards, actual wizards, and a billion magical and technological healing artifacts getting a life threatening disease, it does not go "I will let the doctors take care of it." Like, this is the most easily treatable cancer and one that she's in the early stages of treatment for so there's a ridiculously high chance of success, especially since she hasn't talked about it having spread anywhere, so really the only danger she's facing right now is her decision to go fishing or dig a well instead of doing that a year from now or calling any of her hundred billion superfriends to go loving do it for her so she doesn't undo the treatment she's trusting in. The whole thing is as stupid as Wakanda holding back the cure for cancer. It is as dumbly and as poorly written.
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Thor and Doctor Strange are both dealing with the cost of power. What books besides Thor and Ms Marvel feel like traditional super hero books anymore? Not a lot of secret identities these days.
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