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SynthOrange posted:Why the hell does Spider-Man seemingly have so many evil-Spiderman enemies? Venom, Carnage, the Clone, the Doppleganger, more symbiotes, Kaine, etc Flash has a bunch of anti-Flashes. And everybody loved it when Christopher Reeve faced off against Terence Stamp. I think there's something about the evil mirror-image that's appealing in general.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:03 |
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# ? May 22, 2024 20:43 |
You gotta really stretch to include Carnage in that list. All he really has is Venom and a couple of clones.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:12 |
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I was more a fan of when Christopher Reeve faced off against Christopher Reeve.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:18 |
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Ghostlight posted:I was more a fan of when Christopher Reeve faced off against Christopher Reeve. That was also awesome, and I'm embarrassed I didn't remember it sooner. And I agree that Carnage doesn't count as an "evil Spider-Man", because he's just more Venom. That's like saying every member of Hydra counts as a Captain America villain.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:24 |
Specifically, Carnage is just Venom with all the Spider-man-like aspects stripped out. No spider-powers, no webbing, no spider-logo, just an angry guy covered in slime with a funky mouth.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:26 |
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Toxxupation posted:Isn't the Clone Saga like two years and something like eighty issues long or something? Because it covered four simultaneous monthlies right? Maximum Clonage is just the story arc within Clone Saga where Ben and Peter figure out once and for all who was the clone and it introduces all those super dumb clones (like Kaine and poo poo). I think it's like 146 single comics. Incidentally, anyone want to buy a complete set of the Clone Saga?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 14:28 |
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I think it may be even more than that (not counting reprints and collections). Which I'm pretty sure would make it the second-biggest Marvel crossover before Civil War, the biggest being AoA.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 14:41 |
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Lurdiak posted:Not to poo poo on the guy too hard, but I doubt McFarlane issues would make the cut for something like that today. I hope people say this about Slott in 20 years.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 14:44 |
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They're saying it now. Doesn't make people's hate boner for Slott not weird though. McFarlane's stories in that collection aren't the best, but they're both solid issues showcasing two of Spider-Man's best villains. Also, Todd drew the hell out of pineapple Thing's brief appearence. What modern one issue story would you guys include?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 15:05 |
Is there even such a thing as a modern one-issue story?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 15:19 |
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Does anybody know which issue of Sandman has Lucien going through the library that consists of books that famous authors only ever dreamed of but never wrote?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 15:22 |
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Die Laughing posted:They're saying it now. Doesn't make people's hate boner for Slott not weird though. Oh man, only one-issue stories? That's tough. Otherwise I would have said "Unscheduled Stop" in Amazing 578-9 was pretty rad. It was that underground Shocker story by Waid and drawn by Marcos Martin.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 15:29 |
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Wasn't that Sandman story from the Gauntlet a one and done?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 15:32 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I think it may be even more than that (not counting reprints and collections). Which I'm pretty sure would make it the second-biggest Marvel crossover before Civil War, the biggest being AoA.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 15:39 |
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Looking back over my old notes, you're right; it's far bigger. In fact, It has almost as many issues as Civil War itself. Edit: It's very strange to me that the Clone Saga is so goddamn big. Even most universe-wide crossovers didn't have half as many issues. How the hell did that happen? Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Some deeply demented guy did a 35-part recap of the Clone Saga, including comments from an editor who worked on the thing. It's an oddly fun read.
Selachian fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Does anybody know which issue of Sandman has Lucien going through the library that consists of books that famous authors only ever dreamed of but never wrote? I can't remember exactly and don't have my copies with me, but I did find a list of the books it contains on Wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_books_from_periodicals#DC_Comics
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 16:41 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Looking back over my old notes, you're right; it's far bigger. In fact, It has almost as many issues as Civil War itself. The really short version is that it wasn't intended to be anywhere near that long, but it turned out to be a success at the start so they extended it. And extended it. And extended it well past the point everyone hated it.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:22 |
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prefect posted:Flash has a bunch of anti-Flashes. It's funny to me that every season of the Flash television show has centered around one such anti-Flash. It seems...contrived.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:27 |
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Endless Mike posted:The really short version is that it wasn't intended to be anywhere near that long, but it turned out to be a success at the start so they extended it. And extended it. And extended it well past the point everyone hated it. Also there were as many Spider-Man ongoings at the time as there were X-Men ones.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:31 |
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There was a good stretch of a few hundred years there were there was always an antipope so maybe this whole flash villain thing is just the way the world works?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:36 |
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Skwirl posted:Also there were as many Spider-Man ongoings at the time as there were X-Men ones.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:43 |
Halloween Jack posted:I think the main reason I didn't read Spider-Man much in the 90s is that I wasn't sure whether to buy regular, Amazing, Spectacular, Web of, Sensational, or Butter Pecan Spider-Man, and I didn't have enough money to read them all. I'm sure the fact that storylines would constantly jump between the titles only made you more interested in becoming a loyal reader.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:59 |
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I think the Ending Battle arc in Superman was the first time I ever came across the idea of a story arc taking place across multiple different comics, and thank God was it nowhere near as complicated as 90s Spider-Man.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 18:09 |
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Lurdiak posted:I'm sure the fact that storylines would constantly jump between the titles only made you more interested in becoming a loyal reader. It sucks that they still do that crap. Like the first part of Waid's Daredevil has that couple of issues where all of a sudden it's the middle of a Punisher story.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 18:09 |
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Lurdiak posted:I'm sure the fact that storylines would constantly jump between the titles only made you more interested in becoming a loyal reader.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 18:21 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I think the main reason I didn't read Spider-Man much in the 90s is that I wasn't sure whether to buy regular, Amazing, Spectacular, Web of, Sensational, or Butter Pecan Spider-Man, and I didn't have enough money to read them all. Oh come on, don't tell me you forgot about Spider-Man Unlimited, the ongoing whose claim to fame was coming out three times less often!
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 18:49 |
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Lurdiak posted:Not to poo poo on the guy too hard, but I doubt McFarlane issues would make the cut for something like that today. I digged the arc where Spidey and Wolverine fight the Wendigo in the Albertan wilderness. Halloween Jack posted:Collecting Batman stories from...pretty much any time post 1990 is a real pain in the rear end, I find. DC is currently putting out trades of the Robin run from the 90's and I am genuinely curious how it's going to tackle all the Contagion/Legacy stuff.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 20:08 |
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Madkal posted:I digged the arc where Spidey and Wolverine fight the Wendigo in the Albertan wilderness. Hopefully they would just skip those issues.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 20:21 |
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I just got the second Batgirl trade from Cassandra's series and they just dropped in the Bruce Wayne: Fugitive issue with absolutely no fanfare or commentary so I think they're probably just going to print each issue in numerical order and drat the confusion.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 20:24 |
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DC's collections department actively makes it difficult to enjoy their characters.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 20:26 |
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Travis343 posted:I just got the second Batgirl trade from Cassandra's series and they just dropped in the Bruce Wayne: Fugitive issue with absolutely no fanfare or commentary so I think they're probably just going to print each issue in numerical order and drat the confusion.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 20:41 |
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redbackground posted:And they couldn't be assed to include the Puckett/Scott Cass short story from Guide to the DC Universe 2001-2002, either, apparently, that sets up the Shiva rematch. Sad! I've got a quote from DC's trade department about this actually. output $comic_series issues (x-(x+6)) goto "printer" I hope that...helps?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 20:51 |
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The electric-blue Superman appearance in JLA Deluxe Vol. 1 that almost everyone complains about would be remedied by a 3 or 4-page story from a JLA Secret Files that shows he's changed, explains his powers, and shows everyone's reactions. Those few pages would've helped that book so much, particularly for those that weren't reading late '90s Superman.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 20:56 |
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Skwirl posted:Also there were as many Spider-Man ongoings at the time as there were X-Men ones. At one point during the CS there was a four month stretch where in excess of 16 different Spider-man comics came out each month.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 22:12 |
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Rhyno posted:At one point during the CS there was a four month stretch where in excess of 16 different Spider-man comics came out each month. Holy poo poo
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 22:22 |
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site posted:Holy poo poo It was out of control.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 22:25 |
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The marketing department had editorial control. It was a dark time.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 23:10 |
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Die Laughing posted:What modern one issue story would you guys include? Every issue of Tangled Web.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 23:23 |
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Rhyno posted:At one point during the CS there was a four month stretch where in excess of 16 different Spider-man comics came out each month. What year did that happen?
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 00:26 |