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Count Bleck posted:Hopefully this will also apply to Chandra because I really don't want to have my deck be 150 bucks specifically because I'm running two of her. Honestly, if loot copter is in every deck I don't see chaandra doing all that well. Planeswalkers in general seem pretty meh in testing and that goes all the way down to new lily(arlin seems pretty gross though). Too much haste, come into play affects, and vehicles that pretty much blank sorcery speed interaction. Not that its going to be all that shocking, but everyone that pre-ordered her at 40+ has a high chance of looking pretty foolish. If anything, this set looks a lot more aggressive with every deck that seems to pop up. Sickening fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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As a control player, we have a tough situation in the new format. No 4cmc sweeper, no powerful draw spell (ie Sphynx's Revelation or DtT) and no Aetherling style 1 of finisher. I think if there are control decks in this meta they're going to be bloated midrange decks, dictated by board permanents (creatures, walkers, oaths etc) like we have seen recently, not "true" control. I love RtB and Painful Truths but they are NOT Revelation or DtT
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Sep 27, 2016 16:27
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There's a strong 5 mana sweeper and a good instant speed draw spell at 4 mana.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:31
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Irony Be My Shield posted:There's a strong 5 mana sweeper and a good instant speed draw spell at 4 mana. When was the last time that kind of effect was playable? It's a far cry from Dig through time.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:32
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Irony Be My Shield posted:There's a strong 5 mana sweeper and a good instant speed draw spell at 4 mana. Honestly I think Control would want to stick Dovin down t4 and force them to commit more bodies to the board with his +1 moreso than they would want to spend their t4 drawing unless the countermagic is good enough right now that there's incentive to hold it up.
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SoftNum posted:As a control player, we have a tough situation in the new format. No 4cmc sweeper, no powerful draw spell (ie Sphynx's Revelation or DtT) and no Aetherling style 1 of finisher. I think if there are control decks in this meta they're going to be bloated midrange decks, dictated by board permanents (creatures, walkers, oaths etc) like we have seen recently, not "true" control. I love RtB and Painful Truths but they are NOT Revelation or DtT Thank god.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:33
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mcmagic posted:Thank god. What do you have against control?
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Sep 27, 2016 16:37
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Rinkles posted:What do you have against control? Nothing but Rev was oppressive and unfun. Dtt was fine in standard though.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:38
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Sphinx's Revelation is the most fun card that has ever been printed in magic. Nephalia Drownyard is the second.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:40
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Rinkles posted:When was the last time that kind of effect was playable? It's a far cry from Dig through time.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:43
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Irony Be My Shield posted:being able to hold up removal 
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Sep 27, 2016 16:44
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Anybody been testing how awful Revolutionary Rebuff is (the pay 2 counter spell)?
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Sep 27, 2016 16:50
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Please tell me someone has Aether Meltdowned a Cultivator of Blades when someone went wide with it for the most majestic loving board wipe. I want to believe.
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Sep 27, 2016 16:52
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Toshimo posted:Please tell me someone has Aether Meltdowned a Cultivator of Blades when someone went wide with it for the most majestic loving board wipe. The Cultivator's controller can just choose not to give their creatures the "bonus".
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Sep 27, 2016 16:58
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BJPaskoff posted:The Cultivator's controller can just choose not to give their creatures the "bonus". Aww
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Sep 27, 2016 17:08
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BJPaskoff posted:The Cultivator's controller can just choose not to give their creatures the "bonus". Can't you cast the flash enchant during the blockers phase after the player has declared they are using it?
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Sep 27, 2016 18:04
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AceClown posted:Can't you cast the flash enchant during the blockers phase after the player has declared they are using it? The trigger goes on the stack, and they decide whether or not their creatures get the pump during resolution. The ability also triggers and resolves on the declare attackers step, so if you give a 3/3 Cultivator -4/-0 in the declare blockers step, their creatures still have +3/+3. This limited format is hell for people who don't know the stack, the difference between activated and triggered abilities, and the steps of combat. Way more than usual.
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BJPaskoff posted:This limited format is hell for people who don't know the stack, the difference between activated and triggered abilities, and the steps of combat. Way more than usual. Also, summoning sickness. People think I'm cheating when I tap my new vehicle for mana, but they can't attack with theirs. To add to that prerelease is usually a perfect storm of less experienced/more casual players, new mechanics, and unfamiliar cards already. odiv fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Sep 27, 2016 18:21
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Irony Be My Shield posted:There's a strong 5 mana sweeper and a good instant speed draw spell at 4 mana.
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Sep 27, 2016 18:24
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Radiant flames is still around. Turn 3 sweeper and all that.
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Sep 27, 2016 18:29
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I mean Control was playable at most points in THS/KTK, which had worse wraths (End Hostilities/Crux, nothing at 4 mana) and a reasonable aggro deck. Then again that did have DTT.
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odiv posted:Also, summoning sickness. People think I'm cheating when I tap my new vehicle for mana, but they can't attack with theirs. Vehicles were super confusing for casuals, either they didn't get that summoning sickness applied to vehicles or didn't understand you could crew using summoning sick creatures. Also everyone that pulled the consul flagship thought it could bolt the face
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Irony Be My Shield posted:There's a strong 5 mana sweeper and a good instant speed draw spell at 4 mana. UW Sphinx's Revelation circa RTR/THS was one of the best standard-format draw-go decks ever, had an uncounterable 4 mana Wrath, a very strong card selection card in Jace, AOT, the strongest three-mana counter ever (Dissolve is way better than people realize because adding Scry 1 in control is excellent - that combined with Temples meant the deck was shaving lands for spells), and a ridiculously stabilizing card in Sphinx's Revelation. It still frequently got bodied by Mutavault. Fumigate and Void Shatter (?) don't seem likely to cut it against 5 different manlands and practically every deck running Smuggler's Copter. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Radiant flames is still around. Turn 3 sweeper and all that. also flaying tendrils, but I guess that doesn't kill 2/3s
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I like the Daily Magic Update on DailyMTG. It seems like Blake Rasmussen is allowed a little more freedom in what he can say than, say, Mark Rosewater. For example, they talk about the Post-Modern format and how disappointed people are in not banning Drake from Pauper. I don't know, it feels a little more personal and less corporate than the rest of the site. There's also the new judge promos:   As someone who was nominated for his first Exemplar in wave 6, I really hope I get an Azusa and Mana Drain instead of a Defense of the Heart and Zur.
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BJPaskoff posted:I like the Daily Magic Update on DailyMTG. It seems like Blake Rasmussen is allowed a little more freedom in what he can say than, say, Mark Rosewater. For example, they talk about the Post-Modern format and how disappointed people are in not banning Drake from Pauper. I don't know, it feels a little more personal and less corporate than the rest of the site. Get rewarded with shiny bulk rares!
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Sickening posted:Get rewarded with shiny bulk rares! Hey, Zur has a cool Modern deck fucker 
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TheKingofSprings posted:Hey, Zur has a cool Modern deck fucker I was wrong. Its going to be worth a cool 8 bucks. Go wild.
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BJPaskoff posted:
I was so pleased when I got my two nominations for the wave that included Temporal Mastery, Shardless Agent, and Force of Will.
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Was testing out a Naya Humans build on Xmage just now. Played a random dude who was on bant. I smoked him in game one with a voltaic brawler and two thalia's lieutenants. As game two starts he says he's going to quit because "There's no viable standard decks that don't require at least 10 cards from the new set". I just wanted to finish out the match, so I didn't say anything back, but I couldn't help but laugh. Do people really get mad about new sets coming out?
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Elblanco posted:Was testing out a Naya Humans build on Xmage just now. Played a random dude who was on bant. I smoked him in game one with a voltaic brawler and two thalia's lieutenants. As game two starts he says he's going to quit because "There's no viable standard decks that don't require at least 10 cards from the new set". I am pretty sure there is at least one person who is butthurt about every single aspect of Magic, however petty. What, 2/3 of the card pool changing causing decks to change? Who'd have thunk it?
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I mean, different strokes, but I love when the new set makes new decks. Why do I want to play the same deck with a minimal change?
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I am pretty sure there is at least one person who is butthurt about every single aspect of Magic, however petty. This particular 1/3 that rotated out contained most of the top staples for the format as well.
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Angry Grimace posted:I mean, different strokes, but I love when the new set makes new decks. He was playing bant. So probably.
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ThePeavstenator posted:This particular 1/3 that rotated out contained most of the top staples for the format as well. It's an exciting new world without Coco, Arf-Arf, or Languish! Why not try something new?
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It's an exciting new world without Coco, Arf-Arf, or Languish! Why not try something new? Winning out of nowhere with Aetherworks Marvel is just as exciting and fun for your opponents.
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Angry Grimace posted:Winning out of nowhere with Aetherworks Marvel is just as exciting and fun for your opponents. Have you done any more testing on that UG Energy deck? I decided to try that out since everyone seems to be rushing towards R/W Vehicles. Seems like getting out a T4 Ulamog/Emrakul is just about as brutal as standard can get.
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This was in the mothership daily update on the marvel deck Looks fun. http://articles.mtgcardmarket.com/too-marvelous-for-words/
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Angry Grimace posted:Winning out of nowhere with Aetherworks Marvel is just as exciting and fun for your opponents. How consistent is the deck? Do you have a list?
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https://twitter.com/JeffHoogland/status/780754111574618112 He probably isn't wrong. SCG articles have been really poo poo come set release because almost all the articles are built around decklists which are made to sell cards.
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