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Weedle
May 31, 2006




My wife and I are moving like two months before her due date so no nursery decoration for us until the last minute. Ughhhh

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Economic Sinkhole
Mar 14, 2002
Pillbug
Hello thread, my wife is 11.5 weeks and we just had a marathon OB appointment with a genetic councilor, ultrasound, glucose test and doctor talk. Everything is looking great and the ultrasound was really cool. We are finally starting to believe that this is real. I have a question though. The genetic councilor talked to us about screening for cystic fibrosis, first explaining that both of us would need to be a carrier for the baby to have a 25%. She went on to say that our state requires that the baby, once born, to be tested for cystic fibrosis. Last, she explained that the test for my wife would cost us $300. We told her that we'd decide later on the test. So my concern is, if we elected to do this test and we were both carriers for the disease, where would that get us? I have been trying to read about it and I can't imagine choosing to abort if the baby had it. I mean, that's the point of these screens at this time, right? To find out if the baby has some huge, unmanageable issue? It doesn't seem like cystic fibrosis is one of those. Can anyone help me think this through?

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
I've been trying to get into the habit of not sleeping on my back at all but I'm really struggling. I have a bad right shoulder and sleeping on that side can make it flare up, and I feel I wake up throughout the night trying to sleep solely on my left. Is it a very firm no-no to sleep on your back at all? I've always shifted from side to back to side but I keep reading that you shouldnt after 16 weeks.

e: I just get horror flashbacks of taking first aid years ago and the instructor telling us to never sleep on your back because YOU AND OR YOUR BABY WILL DIE

hypnotoad
Dec 16, 2007

But shakin' its all I know!

Toriori posted:

I've been trying to get into the habit of not sleeping on my back at all but I'm really struggling. I have a bad right shoulder and sleeping on that side can make it flare up, and I feel I wake up throughout the night trying to sleep solely on my left. Is it a very firm no-no to sleep on your back at all? I've always shifted from side to back to side but I keep reading that you shouldnt after 16 weeks.

e: I just get horror flashbacks of taking first aid years ago and the instructor telling us to never sleep on your back because YOU AND OR YOUR BABY WILL DIE

My doctor told me as long as I'm not uncomfortable it was fine to sleep on my back (or even my stomach, before I got to current-huge level).

superbelch
Dec 9, 2003
Making baby jesus cry since 1984.

Toriori posted:

I've been trying to get into the habit of not sleeping on my back at all but I'm really struggling. I have a bad right shoulder and sleeping on that side can make it flare up, and I feel I wake up throughout the night trying to sleep solely on my left. Is it a very firm no-no to sleep on your back at all? I've always shifted from side to back to side but I keep reading that you shouldnt after 16 weeks.

e: I just get horror flashbacks of taking first aid years ago and the instructor telling us to never sleep on your back because YOU AND OR YOUR BABY WILL DIE

You don't need to be completely on your side - a body length pillow under your right side to slightly tilt things should be enough.

SquirrelFace
Dec 17, 2009

Economic Sinkhole posted:

Hello thread, my wife is 11.5 weeks and we just had a marathon OB appointment with a genetic councilor, ultrasound, glucose test and doctor talk. Everything is looking great and the ultrasound was really cool. We are finally starting to believe that this is real. I have a question though. The genetic councilor talked to us about screening for cystic fibrosis, first explaining that both of us would need to be a carrier for the baby to have a 25%. She went on to say that our state requires that the baby, once born, to be tested for cystic fibrosis. Last, she explained that the test for my wife would cost us $300. We told her that we'd decide later on the test. So my concern is, if we elected to do this test and we were both carriers for the disease, where would that get us? I have been trying to read about it and I can't imagine choosing to abort if the baby had it. I mean, that's the point of these screens at this time, right? To find out if the baby has some huge, unmanageable issue? It doesn't seem like cystic fibrosis is one of those. Can anyone help me think this through?

We didn't get the test because neither of us have CF anywhere in our family. On the off chance we were both somehow carriers, we were not willing to abort anyway so skipped that testing.

Some people like to do it just to know for sure, but it's really just personal preference.

ArmadilloConspiracy
Jan 15, 2010
Autumn happened! I'm only 5'2" and it's getting too chilly to comfortably wear maternity shorts or cotton skirts all the time. Any advice on where to order maternity jeans in short lengths?

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Maternity leggings with skirt things and cardigan things.

PacoTheThird
Oct 23, 2008
I second the leggings option. I practically lived in mine when I was pregnant.

Old Navy may have some pants options for shorter people, but probably only online. What I would do is go to the store and find some styles you like, and then go home and order them in the length you need.

Funhilde
Jun 1, 2011

Cats Love Me.

ArmadilloConspiracy posted:

Autumn happened! I'm only 5'2" and it's getting too chilly to comfortably wear maternity shorts or cotton skirts all the time. Any advice on where to order maternity jeans in short lengths?

Macys or motherhood maternity had petite length jeans with reasonable deals in place.

Sockmuppet
Aug 15, 2009

ArmadilloConspiracy posted:

Autumn happened! I'm only 5'2" and it's getting too chilly to comfortably wear maternity shorts or cotton skirts all the time. Any advice on where to order maternity jeans in short lengths?

Oh my god, I loved being pregnant during autumn. Gorgeous warm maternity pantyhose and tights, pretty dresses, and layers layers layers!

ucmallory
Jun 23, 2005

Toriori posted:

I've been trying to get into the habit of not sleeping on my back at all but I'm really struggling. I have a bad right shoulder and sleeping on that side can make it flare up, and I feel I wake up throughout the night trying to sleep solely on my left. Is it a very firm no-no to sleep on your back at all? I've always shifted from side to back to side but I keep reading that you shouldnt after 16 weeks.

e: I just get horror flashbacks of taking first aid years ago and the instructor telling us to never sleep on your back because YOU AND OR YOUR BABY WILL DIE

Even when I was 30+ weeks, I would lay on my back with just a pillow under one hip. You just don't want to be flat. Also, seconding the comment about comfort. I could tell very clearly when I needed to NOT be on my back because it felt like I couldn't breathe well or I'd get lightheaded. You'll feel that long before your baby would and will be able to adjust with ample time, even if you are asleep.

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009

Economic Sinkhole posted:

Hello thread, my wife is 11.5 weeks and we just had a marathon OB appointment with a genetic councilor, ultrasound, glucose test and doctor talk. Everything is looking great and the ultrasound was really cool. We are finally starting to believe that this is real. I have a question though. The genetic councilor talked to us about screening for cystic fibrosis, first explaining that both of us would need to be a carrier for the baby to have a 25%. She went on to say that our state requires that the baby, once born, to be tested for cystic fibrosis. Last, she explained that the test for my wife would cost us $300. We told her that we'd decide later on the test. So my concern is, if we elected to do this test and we were both carriers for the disease, where would that get us? I have been trying to read about it and I can't imagine choosing to abort if the baby had it. I mean, that's the point of these screens at this time, right? To find out if the baby has some huge, unmanageable issue? It doesn't seem like cystic fibrosis is one of those. Can anyone help me think this through?

Is this a high-risk pregnancy? Do you or does your wife have a heritable genetic condition? I'm wondering why you saw a genetic counsellor at 11 weeks, and also why your wife had an early glucose test, because if your pregnancy is high-risk or you are at elevated risk of genetic anomalies then none of what I'm about to say applies. (Or maybe genetic counselling and early glucose testing are just standard in the States?)

I suspect what the genetic counsellor meant is that your state has mandatory newborn screening, which is different than a diagnostic test for CF. Where I live, newborn screening isn't mandatory, but is recommended; we do a heel-poke test that looks for markers of about 30 different conditions. If that test comes back positive (elevated risk) for one of the conditions, we do more precise diagnostic testing to see for sure if the baby is affected. We don't offer prenatal carrier screening for couples at low risk of CF because I live in socialist Canada and the cost:benefit ratio doesn't make sense if you're spending taxpayer dollars.

If you choose to be screened for the carrier gene, and both you and your wife have it, there's a 25% chance that the baby will have CF. You can confirm whether or not the baby is affected by doing an amniocentesis during the pregnancy, or by testing the baby after it's born. Cystic fibrosis is a serious disease that significantly shortens lifespan; like most conditions that can be detected with prenatal genetic testing, the only people who can decide if you want to know if your baby is at risk are you guys. I usually counsel my patients that there are three kind of people: people who would choose to terminate a pregnancy (these people should be tested), people who wouldn't terminate but would like to have the extra time and information to prepare for a baby with differences (these people should be tested), and people who wouldn't terminate and would spend the rest of the pregnancy worrying if they knew they were expecting a baby with differences (these people shouldn't be tested). Only you and your wife know which category you're in. Yes, the purpose of early testing is to offer the option of termination if that's what you want, but that's not the only reason it might be useful.

ucmallory posted:

Even when I was 30+ weeks, I would lay on my back with just a pillow under one hip. You just don't want to be flat. Also, seconding the comment about comfort. I could tell very clearly when I needed to NOT be on my back because it felt like I couldn't breathe well or I'd get lightheaded. You'll feel that long before your baby would and will be able to adjust with ample time, even if you are asleep.

This is 100% correct. Anything that's cutting off blood flow to your placenta is also cutting off circulation in the entire lower half of your body. You'll feel dizzy and sick if your IVC is being compressed. If you're comfortable, your baby is OK, no matter what position you're in.

Hi_Bears
Mar 6, 2012

ArmadilloConspiracy posted:

We're planning to be similar/possibly worse. We got a co-sleeper bassinet, and our "changing table" is going to be one of those peanut changing pads on top of a dog crate in the room adjoining ours.

Love the peanut changer - my favorite baby product. We used ours on top of our ottoman/coffee table in the living room (we kneeled) for the first 5 months when we were living in a 1 bedroom apartment.

ArmadilloConspiracy
Jan 15, 2010

Hi_Bears posted:

Love the peanut changer - my favorite baby product. We used ours on top of our ottoman/coffee table in the living room (we kneeled) for the first 5 months when we were living in a 1 bedroom apartment.

I got it on a recommendation from this thread--possibly yours, if you made one. We have tall, tall dogs so the crate is at a nice comfortable height. We're not planning on a second kid, so it just kind of made sense to spend as little as possible/not get too much extra furniture. I bought the changing pad, the bassinet, a whole bunch of sleep sacks, and so far that's it.

I need to inventory all the clothes we've received as gifts. This is the first grandbaby on both sides, so people have gone a LITTLE crazy.

Economic Sinkhole
Mar 14, 2002
Pillbug

Dogfish posted:

Is this a high-risk pregnancy? Do you or does your wife have a heritable genetic condition? I'm wondering why you saw a genetic counsellor at 11 weeks, and also why your wife had an early glucose test, because if your pregnancy is high-risk or you are at elevated risk of genetic anomalies then none of what I'm about to say applies. (Or maybe genetic counselling and early glucose testing are just standard in the States?)


Thanks. We've been seeing a high-risk OB due to my wife's rheumatoid arthritis and age (she will be 36 when the baby is born). We have no heritable genetic conditions, other than the RA, I guess. We did elect to have the Harmony genetic screening test done since insurance should cover it due to her age. The glucose test was just a precaution her OB wanted to take, she's going to do it again at 26 weeks. Based on my wife's and the baby's current condition and her passing the glucose test with no issues, the high-risk OB suggest we switch to the low-risk doctor at the clinic.

I think we are going to skip the cystic fibrosis screen since we have no family history of it. I actually did one of those home DNA testing things (23 and me) a while back and they look for CF mutations. Obviously not comprehensive but it was negative.

I also wanted to say that I appreciate everyone's contributions to this thread and have found a lot of valuable information here. Its a island of sanity in a sea of ridiculous mommy-forum sparkly bullshit.

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009
Good luck with the pregnancy! I am also currently enjoying the first trimester of a high-risk pregnancy, so I sympathise. My high-risk OB is a colleague and a friend, though, so she sees me at her low-risk practice to make me feel more normal. :)

skeetied
Mar 10, 2011
I'm in the first trimester of a high risk pregnancy too. I've had two low risk pregnancies with midwives where the CF test never came up, but my new OB's NP freaked out that I hadn't been tested yet. It was super strange. I'm glad to know it's part of the newborn screen, though.

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009
Well, I don't know if it is where you live; I work in Ontario so if you're in a different province or country, it might not be.

I am a midwife and being too high-risk for my own scope of practice is really weird. I know too much for peace of mind, but have too little expertise in high-risk to be able to evaluate my own case.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

ucmallory posted:

Even when I was 30+ weeks, I would lay on my back with just a pillow under one hip. You just don't want to be flat. Also, seconding the comment about comfort. I could tell very clearly when I needed to NOT be on my back because it felt like I couldn't breathe well or I'd get lightheaded. You'll feel that long before your baby would and will be able to adjust with ample time, even if you are asleep.

Okay, that's reassuring to know.

Now I'm just hoping I start feeling better. I had an incredibly mild first trimester all things considered, and this past week and a bit I've been beyond exhausted, nauseous and have had headaches.

Sharks Below
May 23, 2011

ty hc <3
Yup my midwife was like "girl you will know when you can't sleep on your back anymore don't worry about it, sleep however your body wants to sleep because you might find it hard to sleep towards the end".

Dogfish - I work at a women's health practice and I know exactly what you mean. I know just enough to be riddled with anxiety about all the possible negative outcomes.

Mmmm Pie
Jun 17, 2007
Me like pie

ArmadilloConspiracy posted:

Autumn happened! I'm only 5'2" and it's getting too chilly to comfortably wear maternity shorts or cotton skirts all the time. Any advice on where to order maternity jeans in short lengths?

If your normal jeans and slacks still fit your legs/ butt, you can use this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007T993US/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have about 3 pairs of normal jeans I can get my rear end in without the bottom of the zipper digging into my groin still at 34 weeks and this thing is great for holding up my pants. I got a pair of jegging thingies from Target that work well too, I'm 5'2' and they're not too long.
I wear the crap out of yoga pants as well. Fortunately I work in an office where clients/patients don't see me so the dress code is pretty relaxed.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Bella Bands etc are great for post partum pudge too.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
I'm really struggling with headaches. I used to get one bad migraine per month around my period but in 14 weeks and have had them on and off (mostly on) for about a week and a half. I've tried getting a massage which help d but only temporarily, heat, cold, extra strength Tylenol. Help?
My work has a stupid sick absence policy where you get three absences in six months before getting a letter, and if you get a certain a,out of letters you get formally written up and it's so bad I'm thinking about asking my midwife for a letter excusing me from it on Wednesday

superbelch
Dec 9, 2003
Making baby jesus cry since 1984.

54 40 or gently caress posted:

I'm really struggling with headaches. I used to get one bad migraine per month around my period but in 14 weeks and have had them on and off (mostly on) for about a week and a half. I've tried getting a massage which help d but only temporarily, heat, cold, extra strength Tylenol. Help?
My work has a stupid sick absence policy where you get three absences in six months before getting a letter, and if you get a certain a,out of letters you get formally written up and it's so bad I'm thinking about asking my midwife for a letter excusing me from it on Wednesday

Might not be helpful during the day due to drowsiness, but Benadryl may be helpful especially at night.

Sharks Below
May 23, 2011

ty hc <3
Have you dropped caffeine? Are you drinking enough water? Are you sleeping ok? Estrogen is for sure a migraine trigger :( Ask your midwife for options for relief as well as a certificate IMO :(

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
if I had to guess, its a mix between the increased blood flow and my body trying to transition to that and hormonal. I used to get about one bad migraine a month right before or at the start of my period from it.

Sharks Below
May 23, 2011

ty hc <3
Right, which is a pretty strong indicator that it's an estrogen trigger. You poor bugger! I will say though, in the second tri as your placenta takes over and bub starts making his/her own hormones all those symptoms get a little easier (TYPICALLY). Migraines are rotten. Manage as best you can!

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009
Unfortunately the options for migraine treatment in pregnancy are pretty limited. If caffeine isn't a migraine trigger for you, try drinking a small cup of coffee when the aura first appears if your migraines have an aura, or when you first feel the pain start, if they don't. Take the Tylenol at the same time if you find it helps; some people don't get any relief from Tylenol at all, so if it's not helping, don't take it. Definitely get your midwife to write you a note; we do it all the time. If it helps, almost all people who have migraines find that they decrease significantly in frequency in the second and third trimesters.

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed
Interestingly enough today the ache is on the left side of my head where it's otherwise been the right. Now that the transitional week from first to second is close to wrapping I'm hoping they'll stop. :shobon:

54 40 or fuck fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Oct 5, 2016

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009
Hope they get better soon; migraines suck.

On another subject, what are everybody's top tips for nausea? I've been nauseated pretty much since the moment I was pregnant (like, before I had a positive test) but now that I'm 9w it's getting really bad. I'm significantly nauseated and dry-heaving all day, and in the last couple days I've started vomiting as well, which is really unusual for me.

So far I've tried:

- Eating every 1.5 hours, balanced protein and simple carbs
- Diclectin TID with Gravol for breakthrough nausea
- Ginger tea, ginger ale, ginger candy, ginger everything

I think I'm going to add in some ranitidine in case part of what's causing the nausea is excess acid, and somebody told me about making Jello with coconut water to maintain a good electrolyte balance, which she swore by. Any other suggestions? This is pretty miserable and I've tried all the stuff I usually recommend to people.

Eponymous Bosch
Aug 11, 2010
I tried all that when I was pregnant and the best thing was sucking on a lemon/lime and drinking plenty of water all day. Along with eating frequently and a few ginger candies.

Lemon candies worked decently as well.

cailleask
May 6, 2007





I think Diclectin is the UK version of Diclegis? If so, are you up to the maximum (4x daily pills) dose? It's honestly the only thing that does anything significant for me at all.

Sometimes I can ward it off with a sugary drink as well (which I normally can't stand). A glass of apple juice or hot chocolate can sometimes bump me up over the edge of functioning again.

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009

cailleask posted:

I think Diclectin is the UK version of Diclegis? If so, are you up to the maximum (4x daily pills) dose? It's honestly the only thing that does anything significant for me at all.

Sometimes I can ward it off with a sugary drink as well (which I normally can't stand). A glass of apple juice or hot chocolate can sometimes bump me up over the edge of functioning again.

Actually Diclegis is the American version of Diclectin - Duchesnay is a Canadian company. :)

I'm taking five a day currently because four was not cutting it. Considering bumping it to six if things don't improve. Four is actually the recommended standard starting dose. Some people can take less but many have to take more.

All my patients swear by it so I was kind of expecting it to be magic. I think my expectations were too high. :(

skeetied
Mar 10, 2011

Dogfish posted:

Actually Diclegis is the American version of Diclectin - Duchesnay is a Canadian company. :)

I'm taking five a day currently because four was not cutting it. Considering bumping it to six if things don't improve. Four is actually the recommended standard starting dose. Some people can take less but many have to take more.

All my patients swear by it so I was kind of expecting it to be magic. I think my expectations were too high. :(

If it makes you feel better, I was taking two four times a day and still dry heaving everywhere with my second pregnancy. One pill three times a day seems to be holding that off with my third one, but all liquids disgust me, which is causing another host of issues (constipation), especially since I'm breastfeeding a 2.5 yo still and working at my 4 yo's outdoor preschool.

sudont
May 10, 2011
this program is useful for when you don't want to do something.

Fun Shoe
Anecdotal "pregnancy is weird" experience with migraine: Before getting pregnant, I had chronic migraine, at least 3-5 a week and had for about 10 years. I'd end up in the ER a few times a year when I'd end up with intractable migrane--my record was something like 41 days. My life was a miserable mess. When I unexpectedly got pregnant, my biggest worry was "how am I going to survive pregnancy with only Tylenol?" Welp. I had 2-3 migraines while pregnant. I had a rough patch at about 16 weeks postpartum (my period came back at about 10 weeks postpartum despite exclusively breastfeeding--he self weaned at about 18 months) but went back to just one a month when my period was due, which was more than acceptable to me.

I'd gone on and off birth control pills in the past to try to see if they'd help/hurt and nothing made a difference. Tried every preventative except Depakote, none worked, tried Botox, didn't work (and I couldn't use my eyebrows for 6 weeks). My neuro had me check with my OB and they said it was fine for me to just take the pill year-round, no break between packs. I'm 40 (had my son at 38) so they worry about increased stroke risk but my migraine almost never has aura and my BP is okay, but I'm terrified of what might happen as I get older.

Maybe 3x a year my body decides "nope I've had enough" and I'll get a period that is more or less annoying spotting for a couple weeks, and will get a migraine, but I can take my prescription med and it goes away.

So, have hope! Most women with migraine had the opposite experience unfortunately but I cannot even believe how much my quality of life has improved.

Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009

skeetied posted:

If it makes you feel better, I was taking two four times a day and still dry heaving everywhere with my second pregnancy. One pill three times a day seems to be holding that off with my third one, but all liquids disgust me, which is causing another host of issues (constipation), especially since I'm breastfeeding a 2.5 yo still and working at my 4 yo's outdoor preschool.

It shouldn't make me feel better to hear about other people's misery...but it does! I feel you on the liquids thing; I used to have a smoothie for breakfast every day but can't even look at the blender without gagging now. I'm eating really juicy fruits like oranges and watermelon and hoping that makes up for my lack of liquids so I don't turn into a raisin.

Eponymous Bosch posted:

I tried all that when I was pregnant and the best thing was sucking on a lemon/lime and drinking plenty of water all day. Along with eating frequently and a few ginger candies.

Lemon candies worked decently as well.

Sour candies work as long as they're in my mouth! But then I'm just as sick after they're finished. I feel like I'm a case of gestational diabetes waiting to happen. I tried the lemon thing and lemons just taste like bitter death to me right now. Food aversions are so weird.

ArmadilloConspiracy
Jan 15, 2010

Dogfish posted:

It shouldn't make me feel better to hear about other people's misery...but it does! I feel you on the liquids thing; I used to have a smoothie for breakfast every day but can't even look at the blender without gagging now. I'm eating really juicy fruits like oranges and watermelon and hoping that makes up for my lack of liquids so I don't turn into a raisin.


Sour candies work as long as they're in my mouth! But then I'm just as sick after they're finished. I feel like I'm a case of gestational diabetes waiting to happen. I tried the lemon thing and lemons just taste like bitter death to me right now. Food aversions are so weird.

I hear you on the food aversions. I have the most ridiculous sweet tooth known to man, but for most of my first trimester I couldn't STAND sweets. When chocolate finally tasted good again I actually cried.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


skeetied posted:

I'm breastfeeding a 2.5 yo still

Why

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Dogfish
Nov 4, 2009
Probably the same reason most people who breastfeed do so: because the kid likes it and it's good for him/her? Just guessing. WHO recommends breastfeeding for at least two years "or beyond."

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