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Being from the general region Moore is also from, I can sort of see where he's coming from. This is an area that has been completely totally screwed by NAFTA and globalization. He was seen to be nominally left-wing mostly due to how the anti-globalization movement was also seen to be a left-wing phenomenon, and also because his earliest work was about labour issues. But anti-globalization is now a thing that Trump has under his policy set, given the new name of "anti-globalism" with a fresh coat of anti-semitic paint. It's entirely possible that all of the rust belt areas he has contact with are either pro-Trump or still anti-Clinton, especially because the labour side of the Democratic Party seems to still be no longer actually there. That's my guess as to why it probably seems like Trump is doing so well from Moore's vantage. Morroque fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Deptfordx posted:Just saw this from Fox. Yeah, CNN and MSNBC have been playing this all day. Its so clear the three Fox News people are uncomfortable and saying to themselves "what the gently caress is he doing?" as he just goes on about how fat that lady was and that's why he called her names. Because after all, she's no Mother Theresa. Donald Trump is a sick, damaged man and no one can get it through to him very basic lessons you teach children.
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HootTheOwl posted:My parents will never know I'm bi, if only because my marriage to a catholic will estrange them before I can kill them. I'm reminded of a Reformation-set joke where a boy is caught banging another boy and his parents are enraged because the second guy is a goddamn Protestant. 
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He doesn't seem stable enough to be doing this deliberately but his offensive rants are still a good smokescreen to keep people from talking about his insane ignorance and lack of coherence on every single policy issue. His base just says "yeah he's an rear end in a top hat but he's gonna get things done."
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Tender Bender posted:He doesn't seem stable enough to be doing this deliberately but his offensive rants are still a good smokescreen to keep people from talking about his insane ignorance and lack of coherence on every single policy issue. His base just says "yeah he's an rear end in a top hat but he's gonna get things done." Pretty much every news source is saying how he looks incoherent though.
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Tender Bender posted:He doesn't seem stable enough to be doing this deliberately but his offensive rants are still a good smokescreen to keep people from talking about his insane ignorance and lack of coherence on every single policy issue. His base just says "yeah he's an rear end in a top hat but he's gonna get things done." "Things" = returning power to white America. They love him because he's an rear end in a top hat.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, CNN and MSNBC have been playing this all day. Its so clear the three Fox News people are uncomfortable and saying to themselves "what the gently caress is he doing?" as he just goes on about how fat that lady was and that's why he called her names. Because after all, she's no Mother Theresa. This is one of the most brutal ads so far. https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/780768433910710272 https://twitter.com/hillary_esp/status/780772666357719040
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And of course O'Reilly is flailing and failing to cover for Trump's tax dodging.
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Chimera-gui posted:And of course O'Reilly is flailing and failing to cover for Trump's tax dodging. I like how he thought WCBS being located in Manhattan meant that their online poll skewing in favor of Trump was more meaningful.
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Well the honeymoon's over. https://www.salon.com/2016/09/27/pepes-post-debate-identity-crisis-4chan-ditches-donald-trump-after-his-presidential-debate-fiasco/ quote:Pepe’s post-debate identity crisis: Online alt-right turns on Donald Trump after his presidential debate fiasco For me now it's just a question of if this will be the beginning of the end for the alt-rights 'rise' this election cycle. They rode on the back of trump in all this. Abandoning their only real avenue into mainstream attention - outside of incidents of large-scale organized harassment of their political enemies - seems like the quickest way possible to be pushed back to the fringes where they really should have stayed in the first place. Funny, it took them this long to figure out that Trump is an incompetent shithead who won't be able to stand up to Hillary.
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Spacedad posted:Well the honeymoon's over. I have never been a big fan of salon(old salon is cool, new salon is loving awful) but this is decent article and they might be right. I think the alt-right saw trump gently caress up and gently caress up bad, all he did was flail about and act like a child, he proved himself to be "poo poo" so now they will probaly move on to someone else at least for now. I think a decent amount though will support him still at least for image sake.
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quote:a self-aware Nope. That's a satire article. Terrible parts of the internet aren't introspective.
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Spacedad posted:For me now it's just a question of if this will be the beginning of the end for the alt-rights 'rise' this election cycle. I do not want this to be the end of the Alt-Right's rise I want Racial Realism to hit the mainstream I want White Nationalism to hit the mainstream. I want Men's Rights Activism/Men Going Their Own Way to hit the mainstream. I want all types of toxic poo poo to the hit the mainstream. I want to wake up morning, and see Steve Sailer, Peter Brimelow, John Debyshire, Taki Theodoracopulos, and Jared Taylor on my TV screen I want the world to see them. To learn from them as an example. I'm sick of this poo poo. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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stormfront doesnt count because its considered a joke even in Alt-Right circles
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At least they realize that every month is white history month.
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Race Realists posted:I do not want this to be the end of the Alt-Right's rise Have Americans learned anything from the awfulness of Trump? He has the support of 40% of voters over a year into the campaign. Terrible people will always exist as long as they are provided a self-legitimizing bubble to live in.
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beatlegs posted:Have Americans learned anything from the awfulness of Trump? He has the support of 40% of voters over a year into the campaign. So a historically low amount.
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computer parts posted:So a historically low amount. The fact that 40% is historically low is the problem.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:The fact that 40% is historically low is the problem. Not really, especially since it's not like these are all "keeping our powder dry" prepper types. computer parts fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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If he actually ends the election with only 40% of the vote it will be a massive landslide and we can all dance in joy.
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Spacedad posted:Well the honeymoon's over. You're right, this will be the last we'll ever see of them. Race Realists posted:I do not want this to be the end of the Alt-Right's rise I'm down.
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I flipped around right wing radio while driving today. Michael Savage was freaking out about the moderator the whole time, calling him "Lester Dolt" and a card-carrying member of the "Democrat Islamist Machine." He also went on for a long time about trigger words. About how Lester Dolt and Hillary were both strategically using trigger words in order to trigger Trump and set him off, so it totally wasn't Trump's fault. The fallout from the debate has been loving hilarious all day. 
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Kenzie posted:I flipped around right wing radio while driving today. Michael Savage was freaking out about the moderator the whole time, calling him "Lester Dolt" and a card-carrying member of the "Democrat Islamist Machine." The way they're all bitching is the surest sign he got creamed.
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I only caught the first hour of Limbaugh, but he was in full damage control mode pretty much the entire show from the look of his front page.quote:RUSH: Trump got beat up for this last night, for having the sniffles. He didn't have the sniffles last night. Because I am a highly trained broadcast specialist who understands the technology here. That's how Trump was breathing. They have positioned the mic -- I don't know -- not charging anything here, but his mic was positioned in such a way that you were able to hear him inhale. quote:RUSH: Okay, folks, let's just get straight to it. For people watching this debate last night through the usual prism, through the standard inside-the-Beltway, insider establishment elite circles, if you watched the debate with that as your life experience, with that defining your expectations and that defining your analysis and commentary, Hillary Clinton won this debate in a knockout. If that's how you watch these things.
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A man who tripled down on an unconstitutional gun control measure that targets minorities, who suggested that China should invade North Korea and that Japan and South Korea, our two allies right next to that mess, should pay up or die, who said NATO should pay up for Russian-up, who lied constantly about his past, does not in anyway deserve to be the nominee of a major party. I wonder how much oxy I have to do to be as stupid as Limbaugh's audience that buys this poo poo. Limbaugh himself of course does not believe his own horseshit.
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Kenzie posted:I flipped around right wing radio while driving today. Michael Savage was freaking out about the moderator the whole time, calling him "Lester Dolt" and a card-carrying member of the "Democrat Islamist Machine."
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it's ok that trump goes crazy and irrational when you say mean things to him since no world leader is ever rude to the president
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BiggerBoat posted:Trump was talking about cops randomly stopping US citizens and disarming them This is so easy to flip on him I don't know why she hasn't done it: "Donald, are YOU ok with the police stopping YOU and patting YOU down?" He either has to say yes which will make the gun nuts flip out, or he has to say no and intimate the truth, that it's not for people who look like him.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I have never been a big fan of salon(old salon is cool, new salon is loving awful) but this is decent article and they might be right. I think the alt-right saw trump gently caress up and gently caress up bad, all he did was flail about and act like a child, he proved himself to be "poo poo" so now they will probaly move on to someone else at least for now. I think a decent amount though will support him still at least for image sake. i dont even think the alt-right is even rising. this is just the flipside of articles that whine about how millenials don't do anything. well, sometimes they hang out on message boards and self-radicalize
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boner confessor posted:i dont even think the alt-right is even rising. this is just the flipside of articles that whine about how millenials don't do anything. well, sometimes they hang out on message boards and self-radicalize Does that really happen? full communism now
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Not FNC, but a local Fox affiliate. https://twitter.com/Amir_Hali/status/780477865838063616
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^^^ 'Why don't you shut up because ARE TROOPS' is one of the most pernicious and awful aspects of US nationalism. Race Realists posted:I do not want this to be the end of the Alt-Right's rise I'm sick of hate crime violence escalating every time they poke their heads into the mainstream due to the all the hate they stir up. I'm all for exposing their heinousness so people know exactly how full of poo poo they are, but not on THEIR terms, as it has been this election cycle. It's the difference between making people aware of how dangerous & vile hate groups are, vs giving hate groups a platform. It is true though that hate groups have been swept under the carpet a great deal over the past several years. (Thanks in no small part to republican obstructionism and their tendency to flirt with white nationalists.) If anything, this election cycle demonstrated the need for more education about hate groups, and that a lot needs to be done to curb their recruitment and propagandizing. boner confessor posted:i dont even think the alt-right is even rising. this is just the flipside of articles that whine about how millenials don't do anything. well, sometimes they hang out on message boards and self-radicalize Maybe. But they're still able to harm people. Whether they are an actual political force seems to be overblown to a degree. But then, hate groups in the real world are able to harm people all the time without being significant political forces either. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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ErIog posted:Not FNC, but a local Fox affiliate. Quanell X is like a super hero whose power is not smashing old whites to bits. The guy's argument immediately came down to the kid's parents being losers and that they weren't born in America like him?
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Is there a thread discussing the rise of the alt-right on 4chan and Reddit? I used to be pretty active on 4chan back around 2006, but I don't remember it being so politically volatile or extreme right wing. Maybe it was because I was 17 and didn't really give a poo poo about politics, but the rise of the alt-right seems really strange to me given what 4chan was. 4chan used to be cat memes and anime gifs. Is the alt-right the final conclusion of those beginnings?
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Vargatron posted:Is there a thread discussing the rise of the alt-right on 4chan and Reddit? I used to be pretty active on 4chan back around 2006, but I don't remember it being so politically volatile or extreme right wing. Maybe it was because I was 17 and didn't really give a poo poo about politics, but the rise of the alt-right seems really strange to me given what 4chan was. IMO it's because you can't get banned there, racist shitheads across the internet get banned for their views and guess where they end up congregating? In the places where they won't get banned, either extreme right wing places like stormfront, sub reddits made for racists like themselves or in someplace where getting banned is an impossibility, i.e. 4chan.
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Most people who go to 4chan grow up and stop taking it seriously after they mature a bit. Every year there is a subsection who never grows up and needs to double down in how mature and sophisticated they are. The only reason they have having troubles is because of other people(blacks) you see. Year after year this grows until you get the festering mass we have today.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:IMO it's because you can't get banned there, racist shitheads across the internet get banned for their views and guess where they end up congregating? In the places where they won't get banned, either extreme right wing places like stormfront, sub reddits made for racists like themselves or in someplace where getting banned is an impossibility, i.e. 4chan. IIRC you can get banned, but it's only for stuff like child pornography and snuff films. Everything else is unmoderated.
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Vargatron posted:IIRC you can get banned, but it's only for stuff like child pornography and snuff films. Everything else is unmoderated. Yeah, that's what I meant, you can't get banned for being a racist shithead so hey, tons of racist shitheads who knew???
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