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JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
The Saurus has outflanked the Marxists! The government does suck, they concede.

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
so the takeaway from the last page is basically that saurus isn't a trump supporter anymore?

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Typo posted:

so the takeaway from the last page is basically that saurus isn't a trump supporter anymore?

I think the takeaway is that he's a strasserist

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Best avatar ever.

skeletonotherkin
Sep 26, 2014

Badger of Basra posted:

I think the takeaway is that he's a strasserist

I wonder how many Death In June albums he owns?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

The Saurus posted:

Rich white person with connections and privilege finds well-paying feelgood job in the charity sector? :monocle: What a shocker.

e: you know what, i had something snarky written here, but i'm going to be a little more sincere towards you for a change.

i'm aware of my own privilege. i fully understand that part of the reason why i can hold the job that i do, not get paid all that much for it, and still not have to worry about scraping by, is that i'm a white male whose parents could afford to help him with college. not everyone in the u.s. has the privilege required to be able to choose to do the work that i do, and i'm extremely grateful for it, and dedicated to paying it forward in my professional life.

the fact that i have more privilege than you do in american society is no excuse for being as virulently racist as you are, though. your thesis seems to be that being anti-racist and not-xenophobic is a luxury of the rich, and that you have no choice but to be as bigoted as you are. you are so ready to project privilege onto people like latinos and middle easterners and pretend that they're at fault for your life not turning out as you wanted it to turn out. you've got to be one of the least self-aware individuals i've ever seen on these forums, and boy, that's saying something. you have no idea how much you're part of the problem.

Majorian fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 24, 2016

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
actually Workers of All Lands Unite tho?

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
I'm guessing you like that comic because of the hilarious slurs.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

i hate it

SirJohnnyMcDonald
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx

are a literal mentally disabled person

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
Carry on guys. You've fuckbarreled him for good measure, get it back on track.

I don't really want to read any more Saurus posts. :smugjones:

If he comes back and is pulling your leg around in fallacious and often contradictory logic that somehow endorses nazis and teenage girl sex trafficking because (that's just how demand works), just pm me thanks in advance~ :h:

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice
communism is a gateway to mental illness, grow up and get a job you hippie pukes before what happened to saurus happens to you

Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

fwiw most people who are still alive that call people "hippies" are baby boomers or children of baby boomers with mommy/daddy complexes

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

Odobenidae posted:

fwiw most people who are still alive that call people "hippies" are baby boomers or children of baby boomers with mommy/daddy complexes

yo i get that irony is a difficult concept for you thick motherfuckers so here's a little dialectical reasoning that should be easy for u to understand

u: "hurr hurr blfffpppfft"
me: lol
conclusion: my opinions are the correct ones and yours are poo poo

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

We get irony, you're just not funny.

Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

is it irony if it's indistinguishable from someone's actual thoughts? are you just making jokes about yourself and then claiming that you trolled us with your own bad ideas?

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
any leftist you punch becomes a hippie
http://theweek.com/articles/606698/why-are-bigshot-liberal-economists-hippiepunching-bernie-sanders

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

Odobenidae posted:

is it irony if it's indistinguishable from someone's actual thoughts? are you just making jokes about yourself and then claiming that you trolled us with your own bad ideas?

the irony was in my use of the word 'hippie', which you could have guessed was ironic because nobody under the age of 80 uses the term 'hippie' unironically anymore you dumbass pinko

Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

i don't know man there's still plenty of sad internet weirdos on the political right who use it. you still agree with what you said so it's not like it has any different meaning: you're mad at young people because they're hipsters or punks or beatniks or whatever buzzword they coined when you were born so you're either an angry old man or a self absorbed failson

Deimus
Aug 17, 2012

Constant Hamprince posted:

the irony was in my use of the word 'hippie', which you could have guessed was ironic because nobody under the age of 80 uses the term 'hippie' unironically anymore you dumbass pinko

Oh

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

Odobenidae posted:

i don't know man there's still plenty of sad internet weirdos on the political right who use it. you still agree with what you said so it's not like it has any different meaning: you're mad at young people because they're hipsters or punks or beatniks or whatever buzzword they coined when you were born so you're either an angry old man or a self absorbed failson

"We sometimes speak of having people having 'no sense of humour'. But what if there existed people who had negative sense of humour, who nullified jokes with their very presence and radiated an aura of unfunniness that depresses everyone around them? Tonight on PSL Thread, a special in depth look on 'where laughter goes to die'."

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

This is an awful lot of effort to not be funny.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Constant Hamprince posted:

"We sometimes speak of having people having 'no sense of humour'. But what if there existed people who had negative sense of humour, who nullified jokes with their very presence and radiated an aura of unfunniness that depresses everyone around them? Tonight on PSL Thread, a special in depth look on 'where laughter goes to die'."

:irony:

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


My irony is actually quite funny I can assure you that.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

carl beijer on the relationship between racism and class

http://www.carlbeijer.com/2016/09/poverty-increases-political.html

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/GanusKyle/status/780397235209138176

G.C. Furr III
Mar 30, 2016



*opens socialism thread* OH WOW

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

G.C. Furr III posted:

*opens socialism thread* OH WOW

Welcome, Grover.

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice
Visiting scholar Professor Grover C Furr III here to give a talk on postbellum American nature poetry and how the Tatars had it coming

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P97r9Ci5Kg

drat, this Marxism stuff actually has a hella stable and well-thought out political philosophy behind it.

It's like someone actually took the time to observe the world and human interactions and build a system around it instead of starting with the aim of maintaining the status quo and then making poo poo up to justify it like

"The rich are good and deserve their money and drive the economy and are moral actors" (capitalism) or "The master race is superior and deserves their privilege over lesser humans" (fascism)

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

I've been anticapitalist since LF's DeBeers thread, but this thread got me looking into the Russian Revolution on wikipedia and holy poo poo, it's like the first time in history a bunch of people got together and looked at the world without illusions (yeah, yeah) and decided what they wanted to do about it.

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
I read a really cool book called The Russian Tradition by TIbor Szamuely that was all about how the Russian tradition of autocracy was required for the state to survive during the Mongol invasion and overlordship, and was then integrated into the strategies and beliefs of its revolutionaries as the only way to effectively oppose the state, eventually ending up as the democratic centralism of the bolshevik party and finally resulting in the autocratic soviet government.

It's got a lot of fun info about Russian revolutionaries working their asses off from the mid 1800s onwards

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Of McCaine's reading list I can recommend two (haven't read the rest):

Debt: The First 5,000 Years is super interesting and accessible, packed with anthropology facts from across time. I found a pdf online and it seemed like a draft, though--some spelling errors and a noticeable decline in quality towards the end.

Society of the Spectacle A little denser, but seems to be ""The Spectacle is class power talking to itself, the dialogue of commodities to themselves, plastered all over the world, whether capitalist or bureaucratic-stalinist, of celebrities and illusions. The only way to fight it is to take advantage of the fact that we're the first common laborers to have any idea of our place and class power in History. P.S. Democratic councils are dope." Am I missing anything? I feel like I must be because this is my first Marxist text and it's a century after the original stuff.

platzapS fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Sep 28, 2016

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

platzapS posted:

I've been anticapitalist since LF's DeBeers thread, but this thread got me looking into the Russian Revolution on wikipedia and holy poo poo, it's like the first time in history a bunch of people got together and looked at the world without illusions (yeah, yeah) and decided what they wanted to do about it.

and the fate of said revolutionaries says a lot about their ideology in general

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Typo posted:

and the fate of said revolutionaries says a lot about their ideology in general

Eh, in most countries where M-Lists came to power they were a lot more restrained about murdering each other.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

platzapS posted:

I've been anticapitalist since LF's DeBeers thread, but this thread got me looking into the Russian Revolution on wikipedia and holy poo poo, it's like the first time in history a bunch of people got together and looked at the world without illusions (yeah, yeah) and decided what they wanted to do about it.

How have you been an anticapitalist for 8 years and are only now hearing about the Russian revolution

Aeolius
Jul 16, 2003

Simon Templeman Fanclub

Badger of Basra posted:

How have you been an anticapitalist for 8 years and are only now hearing about the Russian revolution

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Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

russian revolution was similar to putting mentos into coke, metaphor checks out

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